Carr getting up to speed in Houston

[thunderkyss]

Geez...you think the oline is the only determining factor in sacks. oh...well of course you don't. Half of it's Carr's fault for running out of bounds. When I say they haven't done anything, I'm talking about putting weapons around him as well. Not just oline help. When you have to keep almost everyone in to block with max protect, and the only guys you have in the pattern are Gaffney and Bradford, I don't care who you are, you're not going to be very successful. And let's not forget '04 when AJ was healthy, Carr manages to throw for 3,500 yards.

Simmer down now.........
I's just saying. If you weren't happy with what the old regime did to address the line, I don't see how you can be happy with what has taken place so far.
Is Moulds better than Gaffney?? You really don't know....... not till we see what Gaffney does in Philly. I think Gaffney is a star.... we just haven't been able to let him shine...... I'm not saying that was Carr's fault or anything like that.

If Reggie Bush was on this team last year, he probably would have spent most of his time pass blocking........ same with the Tightend.... same thing may be the case in 2006......... we'll have to wait and see.

I do find it curious....... very curious, that Carr can throw for 3500yrds in a season where he is sacked 44 times, even help us win 7 games. But in a season where he gets sacked 48 times(68-20(that Kubiak said were Carrs Fault)=48) he doesn't........ Defense??........ maybe.

Heck Tom Brady managed to win a SupeBowl when he was sacked 41 times.

Yes, he has to go through the "valley" and go through some unbelievable things to get what God has in store for him.

I know the book of Job, my grandfather was a minister for 30 years.

My point being that taking that beating may very well have been in God's plan.... Hence, I am guessing here, why Texans_Chick(the coolest member of the HoustonTexans.com MB) used the book of Job in her post.

 

[Grid]

Big dave is getting the big ignore.

 

[GP]

I have a theological degree. I am in professional ministry at the moment. And I guess my only comment is: How God chooses to bless and/or curse is a mysterious thing. Getting beaten for his belief, the apostle Paul said to "...count it all as joy for suffering in the name of Jesus." Paul knew this very well...after all, he was the third witness and held the coats of the other two witnesses when Stephen was stoned to death (this happened before Paul's conversion to the faith, of course).

Some children sit in hospital rooms taking chemo treatments while their firends are playing outside on a playground. At the same time, a man calls his family out of the jungle to come and kneel beside him...to take a bullet in their heads from their pursuers for their belief in God in a nation where God is outlawed, and at the same time football fans ponder whether God had to take David Carr through a "valley" to bring him victoriously to the other side of the Jordan River so he can possess his Promised Land.

God created each of us for a plan and a purpose (Jeremiah 29:11), and He is whole-heartedly intrerested in the intimate and intricate details of every one of us, and the free will of man intersects with God's plan and purpose for our lives in such a way that we feel compelled to pursue our lives and/or careers with great passion so we might achieve that which God has planned for us.

So, "yes," God wants David to succeed. He wants YOU to succeed in the things He has destined for YOU. But the responsibility lies upon our own shoulders to walk in faith and trust the plan (which means to ultimately trust "The Great Planner" Himself) and the reward might not be a Super Bowl. It might be a great career as an NFL QB which leads to other avenues of fulfillment for David long after his pro football career has ended. The life of "Pistol Pete" Maravich is a good example.

To me, the greatest measure of a man is not whether he achieves the ultimate accolades in his career...it's if he handles it all with the grace and dignity of one who loves God despite what happens to him along the way. Because somewhere, at this same time right now, a little girl lies in a hospital bed praising God that she's alive...and a family kneels beside each other and looks at each other one last time knowing their last breath on earth means they take their next breath in Heaven together with their Father. The proof of our faith is found within how we handle adversity, and very much in how we react or respond to the subsequent blessing or cursing that follows.

My only gripe with David is that up until now, based on what I have seen and what I have heard, is that he has been riding a gravy train and not willing to put forth HIS OWN END of the deal in terms of sacrificing his family time for more film study, etc. But then again, no amount of effort on David's behalf would have overcome the previous staff's ineptitude....or would it?

I guess the thing he should be congratulated for is "patience" to not jump the ship and scapegoat the entire franchise. He is to be commended for hanging tough and giving the Texans a second chance (and Kaiser Toro is going bonkers as he reads this statement, eh?). But...the Texans are also to be commended for believing in Carr enough to bring a QB doctor (Kubiak) in as head coach to help David, and to help the team.

Thus, it looks like both the Texans organization AND David Carr are committed to handling their adversity in a more unique manner than you see in other NFL teams. Pretty neat, if you aske me. And I don't see why some people refuse to cheer this concept...and how they can find a way to root for it to fail.

 

[dwilt72]

Carr needs to get up to speed! I was a big Carr fan until last season. I still have one foot on the bandwagon, but he's got to step it up! I was a fan of his from his Jr. year in college. I saw him beat Rice in a come-from-behind victory. From that time on I thought he was special and I was really excited when the Texans drafted him. He seemed to progress OK in the first 3 years. Last year, he seemed to digress though. I don't know if he's not spending enough time watching tape and studying the game or if he lost confidence or not. It looks like the Texans braintrust has decided he's the man. They are also giving him more weapons than he's ever had. So now it's up to him. Come on Dave, quit running home to the family, put in the hours and show us what ya got!

 

[Texans_Chick]

God has a plan for everyone of us, David found his, and it is not a plan for him to get beat down every Sunday.

I hope you are correct about the beat down thing. But I would never presume in my life or David's or others, to know what the will of God is as it relates to the day to day things that happen in our lives. DC has had a difficult time with his child's illness and starting for an expansion team, but it is quite possible that he has more difficulties in store for him, and that God's plan for him may have nothing to do with succeeding at football at all, no matter how hard he tries.

God created each of us for a plan and a purpose (Jeremiah 29:11), and He is whole-heartedly intrerested in the intimate and intricate details of every one of us, and the free will of man intersects with God's plan and purpose for our lives in such a way that we feel compelled to pursue our lives and/or careers with great passion so we might achieve that which God has planned for us.

So, "yes," God wants David to succeed. He wants YOU to succeed in the things He has destined for YOU. But the responsibility lies upon our own shoulders to walk in faith and trust the plan (which means to ultimately trust "The Great Planner" Himself) and the reward might not be a Super Bowl. It might be a great career as an NFL QB which leads to other avenues of fulfillment for David long after his pro football career has ended. The life of "Pistol Pete" Maravich is a good example.

To me, the greatest measure of a man is not whether he achieves the ultimate accolades in his career...it's if he handles it all with the grace and dignity of one who loves God despite what happens to him along the way.

IMO, that last part is the most important part.

It is quite possible to work your hardest, do things in a way that is in keeping with God's word and not find professional success. I know that flies in the face of the gospel of success stuff that tends to be popular these days. It may be that God's plan for DC is something that doesn't involve any success in football in any way. It is quite possible that a fluke injury could happen and he could never take another snap, and that from that difficulty in his life, he could learn and grow and have something more important happen for him other than professional or financial success.

At least in my own life, I get really uncomfortable when people start talking about what they know is on God's mind. Often the worst things in my life ended up being the best things, but 1. they certainly didn't feel that way at the time, 2. they turned out COMPLETELY different than I would have thought could happen.

Besides, I refused to follow a theological point of view that might suggest that the ancient success of the Cryboys is because they met with God's approval. I missed the cracksmoking gospel in the Bible.

But I am guessing that this is a discussion for another time and place--other than saying that I think that Carr has done a nice job in facing difficulties and that I am glad he can use his faith in God to help comfort him.

My only gripe with David is that up until now, based on what I have seen and what I have heard, is that he has been riding a gravy train and not willing to put forth HIS OWN END of the deal in terms of sacrificing his family time for more film study, etc. But then again, no amount of effort on David's behalf would have overcome the previous staff's ineptitude....or would it?

What have you seen?? Unsubstantiated posts on a MB? Newspaper articles pointing to what "some say." One way or another, because of these rumors and because of the VY support, I am guessing that DC is going to make sure that people know that he is working. "Optics" to borrow a publicity term.

My point being that taking that beating may very well have been in God's plan.... Hence, I am guessing here, why Texans_Chick(the coolest member of the HoustonTexans.com MB) used the book of Job in her post.

You wouldn't think I was particularly cool if you saw the gym clothes I am wearing right now. Thanks for the nice ups.

 

[edo783]

You wouldn't think I was particularly cool if you saw the gym clothes I am wearing right now. Thanks for the nice ups.

Sooo, I guess your saying your "Hot". J/K

 

[aj.]

My point is that words are nice (sometimes), and the excitement of change goes only so far - like until the regular season starts, or maybe even before when it's all proven on the field, or not, once again.

In laymans terms, I am in a state of guarded optimism, not mushy gushyness. Hearing that our highly paid 5th year veteran QB is "putting in the work" shouldn't be news or a reason to break out the kazoos and party hats, should it?

Negative rep comment on above post:

You dont have to be a jerk all the time.

Hey, if you disagree with my post, bring it on the board so we can discuss it, instead of name calling behind Oz's curtain. I have a pretty good idea who you are anyway based on the time stamp.

Like I said - and especially now with the second Carr fluff article to hit the news stands in less than a week - I'm not particularly excited that our QB is putting in extra work - nor should it be news. It's something I expect from a highly compensated NFL QB in his 5th season (and other players of his tenure and compensation). I hope Carr does well because it means good things for the Texans. I just don't get all giddy over a fluff piece in April. It almost seems contrived. I'll wait until they start playing games to see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

 

[TEXANRED]

Negative rep comment on above post:

Hey, if you disagree with my post, bring it on the board so we can discuss it, instead of name calling behind Oz's curtain. I have a pretty good idea who you are anyway based on the time stamp.

Like I said - and especially now with the second Carr fluff article to hit the news stands in less than a week - I'm not particularly excited that our QB is putting in extra work - nor should it be news. It's something I expect from a highly compensated NFL QB in his 5th season (and other players of his tenure and compensation). I hope Carr does well because it means good things for the Texans. I just don't get all giddy over a fluff piece in April. It almost seems contrived. I'll wait until they start playing games to see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

You got a negative rep for that?

Some people on this board tend to abuse the rep button. I got a negative rep for saying DD was hurt for 8 games last year. He wasen't (really six games, splitting hairs) but was trying to prove a point about his durabilty and how adding a second running back with just as much talent would help DD and the team. Instead of the poster seeing the point only focused in on me being wrong about how many games he missed.

 

[Runner]

I've never given negative rep - I'm a positive reinforcement kind of guy.

 

[thunderkyss]

Thus, it looks like both the Texans organization AND David Carr are committed to handling their adversity in a more unique manner than you see in other NFL teams. Pretty neat, if you aske me. And I don't see why some people refuse to cheer this concept...and how they can find a way to root for it to fail.

I refuse to cheer this concept, because David doesn't appear to be a self motivator...... He's going to play awesome for so many games this year, then after he proves what he feels he has to prove, then I fear we'll be back to the old Dave.

 

[TEXANRED]

im not one for conspiracy theories...but the end of the rams game was positively epic. I dont even believe in god and im headscratching on that a little bit

Houston Oilers/Buffalo 1993......................There is a God and he is NOT a Houston fan.