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Carr and Domanick Williams Released

Sweet... for better or for worse... the Carr era is officially over. NOW LETS FRICKING MOVE ON WITH OUR TEAM!
 
Marcus said:
Well, IMO, Smith's statement was misleading. If the plan was to release Carr from the get go, then he should have just said so.

He didn't lead me on with his statement, but from reading other people's posts yesterday and today, it's apparent that he led a few others on.

Should have kept his mouth shut about it.
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Lead who on? You are assuming they made no attempts to solicit a trade. Once Trent Green decided to deal with Miami, that ended the best chance of a trade. Doesn't mean Smith mislead anyone just because it didn't work out.
 
I really hope that Schaub plays well, or he will be blasted more than DC. People will say that we over paid for him, and we should have given him a smaller contract. Say what you want, but the Boo-birds will find some reason to boo at anyone they want to.
 
Vinny said:
I can help....how many TD passes did he have his last 40 quarters of play with the Texans?
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vin--you use that over and over again but it is very telling. blame the o-line, wr's, rb's, all you want, you have to do better than that. 2 touches...man.
 
Cupps said:
It was a good run, no matter what anyone else (read: Carr Haters) have to say. I'm happy to be moving in a new direction, but said to see our first leader leave.

Good luck, and I, for one, hope to see him find success somewhere else. I will always remember 19-10. And no one can deny that Carr was full of class, and always did everything in his power for this city and this team.
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The nightmare is finally over.
 
790 AM reported it.

Saying that no team was interested in Carr even after we contacted the ones who had shown interest. Thus, we cut Carr and Williams and moved on.

And saved some money, the only way we would of got a pick is for either or both to redo their deals. And it has been reported NOBODY wants DW, and Carr wouldn't redo his contract.


See ya guys

Carr may hang it up. Unless he will at last NOW take less cash, he won't get signed. And Williams, we shall see if someone trys him...and sees if he can play.
 
To lazy to quote the posters, but the Cowboys sign Brad Johnson and teh Falcons are looking to sign Anthony Wright.

So is Carr going to be a Raider of a Viking?
 
HoustonFrog said:
Are you kidding..in 2 years Mario will be the new Carr:)...kidding people...sort of.
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People will always find something to complain about. It is in our nature.

I'm just glad we won't be debating (hopefully) about who gets the blame for this sack or that one for a while.

Did David hold the ball too long? Should he have run when he had the chance? Did this lineman or that one blow the scheme? Was the coverage too good? Should we get Andre some more help to get open? Is the running back helping out enough with the blocking scheme?

It was amazing how much time I and many of you wasted debating these questions. Thank the maker it is over for at least a little while.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Maybe so, but he's going to be in for a rude awakening once he sees the type of salary offerings he'll be getting. lol:redtowel:
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You are entitled to your opinion, but seriously why did you have to respond like that? Too many people taking too much pleasure in Carr' demise.
 
dirty steve said:
vin--you use that over and over again but it is very telling. blame the o-line, wr's, rb's, all you want, you have to do better than that. 2 touches...man.
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Yeah, it's been grating on me since the end of the football season....but now that Big Dave is free to go find a team of his choosing I just want to wish him good luck. I wasn't a fan of his play on the field but we couldn't have had a better person as the face of our franchise start. Best of luck to him and Hulk.
 
MATRIX said:
Carr may hang it up. Unless he will at last NOW take less cash, he won't get signed. And Williams, we shall see if someone trys him...and sees if he can play.
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i doubt it, but i dont see him catching on until after the draft and then he could get calls from teams that didnt get a QB and still feel like they need one.
 
Lucky said:
I don't think this was Smith's call. Smith would have held on to Carr until the draft in the remote chance that a team that came up empty on a QB would give up a pick.

This had to be McNair's decision. I wouldn't be surprised if Carr had talked directly to McNair and asked for a release. This was David's best chance to get another gig.
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Well, I can buy that. Being since I think it was strictly McNair's decision to extend Carr last year, then I guess I can believe this was strictly McNair's call, too.

Good observation.
 
infantrycak said:
For Carr it is $2 mil of dead money on the 2007 cap and $2 mil on the 2008 cap. Net saving to the cap in 2007 -- $6.75 mil.

Domanick has $3.9 mil of dead money--$1.95 this year and $1.95 mil next. Net savings on the 2007 cap -- $2.69 mil.

John Lopez is being a dullard again talking about having to pay his salary for the next two years.
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so this move is putting about 9.4 mill back into this years cap...not too bad for two guys being released...that means our cap space number has increased by almost 10 million...am i right?
 
TexansMVP said:
Didn't some team get some picks out of Dave Ragone sometime last year? I understand that we might be saving some money by cutting Carr, but you're telling me Dave Ragone had some value while the best they could do for Carr was release him?
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He had a HUGE contract. I bet no one was willing to trade for him unless he restructured his contract and I bet he refused to do that.

The Texans could have held him hostage but decided to "do right" by him and let him go so he can sign on with someone soon of his own choosing.
 
Marcus said:
Well, IMO, Smith's statement was misleading. If the plan was to release Carr from the get go, then he should have just said so.

He didn't lead me on with his statement, but from reading other people's posts yesterday and today, it's apparent that he led a few others on.

Should have kept his mouth shut about it.
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IIRC, Rick Smith said "we're trying to find a new place for David." I'm not sure that the word "trade" was even used.
 
David definitely has confidence in his abilities and I can imagine the insult he felt that A) he got dumped publically for a back-up and B) was asked for a pay cut to do his previous team a favor.

Pretty easy to see why he would not renegotiate. I think McNair out of loyalty or something felt obliged to give him the best chance of a starting role with numerous teams rather then the Texans use their last string of leverage to hold on to Carr through the draft and wait to cut him till the last minute.

Unfortunately Carr has so much confidence I think he will be shocked how much teams feel he was proportionately responsible for poor offense management the last few years.
 
Just cut the ties.. suck it up and move on. They mishandled the Carr situation from day1 to the last day. No surprise. Now lets win some damn football games
 
hadaad said:
Again, who tells the truth, coming up to the draft?
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I'll post it a third time today. This is a little stronger than draft rhetoric. This is someone who has studied the guy. I'm assuming this isn't the only person with these thougths for that money. I also think there is no doubt he has been shopped since the day the season ended and there has been no real takers. After seeing the market and the guys out there, it says alot.

"Childress told the station the Vikings aren't interested in trading for Carr, and he explained why.

"I always struggled with where his release came from," Childress said. "It's kind of a drop-down, three-quarter, not overhand, over-the-top release.

"Just in the tape I've watched in the (five) years he's been in the league, he can make some of the throws, (but) he can't make all the throws. He gets some balls batted at the line of scrimmage just because of where that ball comes from.

"(It's) a little more difficult to throw in-the-seam throws because it doesn't come from over the top. He can't get a ball to get out of his hand, get up and get down.

"He's a smart guy; he's a decent athlete. But when you're buying a quarterback at this level and you kick the tires, there shouldn't be a lot of things that you're trying to straighten out. You pick a Carr, you pick a quarterback because you like all the things about him. ... You don't want to feel like there are any perceived flaws."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/4654994.html
 
keyfro said:
so this move is putting about 9.4 mill back into this years cap...not too bad for two guys being released...that means our cap space number has increased by almost 10 million...am i right?
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Should be if they are making these June 1st cuts as everyone is assuming.
 
Lucky said:
I don't think this was Smith's call. Smith would have held on to Carr until the draft in the remote chance that a team that came up empty on a QB would give up a pick.

This had to be McNair's decision. I wouldn't be surprised if Carr had talked directly to McNair and asked for a release. This was David's best chance to get another gig.
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I agree.

Not much else to say.
 
rafterticket said:
The Cowboys need a #1, too.
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For one, Romo played half a season, (his first TD pass was against the TEXANS!) and still had better stats than David Carr. Everyone said it was all the O-Lines fault that Bledsoe sucked but it was just that he was the freaking Statue of Liberty and wouldn't get out of the way (like David Carr). But when Romo came in all criticism of the line stopped. It will be the same way with the Texans.

Just to be fair, it's not Carr's fault. He never had anyone to guide him, he had unrealistic expectations put on him, and being sacked 249 times doesn't help anything (not counting knockdowns). He might have been a crappy QB for the Texans but I expect him to do good for another NFL team. He is a class act and is not done.
 
You guys ready to kill yourselves yet?
Way to let go of a starting quarterback who will probably do well somewhere else for NOTHING.
almost as idiotic as throwing away your future for a unproven backup quarterback and passing on 2 possible hall of fame players in the draft last year.
 
Super Mario said:
I think im going to be sick... Why do other teams get picks for players, and we tend to just cut them? I will never figure that one out...
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first off, both those players have little to no value. williams/davis is hurt and career is over and carr sucks and has a prohibitively overpriced contract. obviously carr's agents did not want to renegotiate (something harrington's agent was willing to do and they still got squat)

it is obvious that Carr was not willing to renegotiate to help payback the Texans for their years of patience....great guy my ass...greedy and a baby
 
I think there is some hope in this since Smith had nothing to do with the 8million dollar mistake nor the 2006 draft.

We should not pile on him while he is just cleaning up mess dumped on him, courtesy Casserly and owner.

I think he still needs to learn better GM strategy and manuevering, but considering he is a rookie GM he has done a lot more good and fair moves then terrible moves. If you say the Schaub deal was a terrible move, then I guess I should get lottery numbers from you and option picks since you obviously have clairvoyance abilities better then Nostradomas to see how Schaub will perform on the field the next two years.
 
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Good luck Dave.
 
I just remembered that I will be drawn to sports talk radio like a moth to a flame today and can't wait to hear "Hey guys, first time long time..is there anyway we can now resign Dave as the backup for a cheaper price..thanks I'll hang up and listen.":)

I'm sure his agent can work out a deal with TGFHaircutters for spokesmodel work. They can give a 2nd rounder to Super Cuts...sorry had to one last time.
 
They showed their cards too early. Of course they had to release him, if a team knows the Texans are going to release Carr and not keep him, no way they would make an offer for him with draft picks and other compensation I'm telling you, the Texans just don't know how to play poker.
 
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