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Can we beat Dallas?

Texans_Chick said:
Just something to ponder and less of a prediction.

The Texans, as a team getting used to a new system and playing together have faced, according to Football Outsiders, the 4th hardest schedule in the league.

The Cowboys have faced the 25th hardest schedule in the league, and got fat stats destroying a Titans team that is in absolute chaos.

League ranks at this time of year can be misleading--do the Texans opponents look so strong because they destroyed the Texans so badly? Are the Cowboys top rankings due to facing some crapatola opponents?

We will know more about this Cowboy team after the Eagles game. Even then, they are not facing the same Eagle team the Texans faced--the Eagles are way more dinged up now.

The questions are:

whether the Texans have learned up their new systems, players and working together enough to compete.

whether they can game plan better coming out of the bye. Coaches are spending the bye figuring out stuff to improve--maybe they figure some key stuff out.

whether the Cowboys get spent with the Eagles or over confident against the Texans

what Texans defense shows up. It wasn't that long ago that panicky Cowboy fans were wanting Romo to replace the statue Bledsoe. If the defense can be just reasonable, and not awful, the Texans offense has a chance to break stuff open with any given play.

can the Texans establish the run at all and get their line healthy and up to speed. They need to be good enough so that Carr doesn't have to cough it up.
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I wouldn't be so quick to rule out last year's NFC East champions blow-offs after three weeks of play quite yet, especially considering they're coming off a victory against Jacksonville. Also, don't you see it as somewhat of an insult to your team, seeing the kind of game Brunell and the rest of that "crapola" team had against the Texans?

If I remember correctly, Dallas's defensive rank was 6th before the Tennesse Titan game, as can be seen in an early thread in anticipation for that game. The Titan game did nothing but inflate those already impressive stats a bit.
 
Beast_from_East said:
You guys could watch a freakin library worth of film and it still wont help. My crystal ball is fortelling "Something Wicked Comes This Way"

:fortune:
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I remember a lot of crystal ball rubbing, when you guys thought you'd go to the playoffs for the second time, under Parcells in '05. 6-10 didn't get it done, so you might want to lay of the crystal meth....... I mean crystal ball.
 
HowBoutThemCowboys! said:
While many will consider this game a "trap" for the Cowboys, you can sure as heck bet to you the man up front-- Jerry Jones, will not let that happen. It was Jerry who suffered the most on the fateful 2002 evening, Jerry who was screamed at as he walked off the field (by Walker I believe?).
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HowBoutThemCowboys! said:
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out last year's NFC East champions blow-offs after three weeks of play quite yet, especially considering they're coming off a victory against Jacksonville. Also, don't you see it as somewhat of an insult to your team, seeing the kind of game Brunell and the rest of that "crapola" team had against the Texans?

If I remember correctly, Dallas's defensive rank was 6th before the Tennesse Titan game, as can be seen in an early thread in anticipation for that game. The Titan game did nothing but inflate those already impressive stats a bit.
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The Redskins facing the Cowboys weren't the same team. Getting used to the new offense, not having Portis.

Each week is a new week. Teams evolve. They learn. They get hurt. They game plan. You just never know.
 
Texans_Chick said:
The Redskins facing the Cowboys weren't the same team. Getting used to the new offense, not having Portis.

Each week is a new week. Teams evolve. They learn. They get hurt. They game plan. You just never know.
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Let him go TC.... don't fight him.

A little overconfidence will work well in our favor. I doubt the coach will be overconfident a week from Tomorrow, but hopefully more than a few of their players will be.


:cowboy1: & that won't hurt my feelings one bit.:shoot:


:spy:
 
thunderkyss said:
Let him go TC.... don't fight him.

A little overconfidence will work well in our favor. I doubt the coach will be overconfident a week from Tomorrow, but hopefully more than a few of their players will be.


:cowboy1: & that won't hurt my feelings one bit.:shoot:


:spy:
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One thing is for certain..TC loves them cowboys. :hides:
 
HowBoutThemCowboys! said:
But if you want to look at it from a football standpoint.. I druel at the thought of Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Jason Witten, against the likes of Sanders and Dunta Robinson.Bill Parcells we're talking.
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Yea, that's my main concern in this game. I don't think the Texans have enough talent in the secondary to keep up with Dallas' recieving threats.

After watching the Dallas/Philly game today, I am even more concerned. I don't like playing a team at thier home when they're coming off of a tough road loss. Look at Jacksonville. They lost a tough road game at Washington last week, and they came back home this week and destroyed the Jets.

My realistic thought is that Dallas should win the game. I'm a Texans' fan, and I'll be at the game. I'm taking the ''any given Sunday'' theory into this week's game. That along with the extra week the Texans have to prepare, gives me hope we can beat Dallas.
 
I don't know if winning this game will help or hurt the Texans more.I know if we don't win it, the Cowboys fans will beat us with it for 4 years but even if we win they still look at us as the Toxans.I really think we need a beating to remind us who we are.We are not there yet and have a long way to go before we get tired of losing top to bottom.I really see no way this team can beat Dallas and we wiull be punished a long time for it..I hate to lose..:brickwall
 
BlueThunder said:
I don't know if winning this game will help or hurt the Texans more.I know if we don't win it, the Cowboys fans will beat us with it for 4 years but even if we win they still look at us as the Toxans.I really think we need a beating to remind us who we are.We are not there yet and have a long way to go before we get tired of losing top to bottom.I really see no way this team can beat Dallas and we wiull be punished a long time for it..I hate to lose..:brickwall
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we haven't been beat enough yet?:yikes: :ouch:
 
If we lose the beatings will continue,,,but we have an Owner and coach that have us headed in the right direction.We have started trimming fat off the cap and should be in really good shape next year.Were tired of losing and there ain't a job on this team safe!:brickwall


Accountability is whats coming,,,,,,:cowboy1:
 
I could see Dallas coming in here destroying us with a major blowout and imbarrassment to all of us.They will have there glory at our exspense and show no remorse..They will love beating the team as much as beating down our fans..:crutch:
 
BlueThunder said:
I could see Dallas coming in here destroying us with a major blowout and imbarrassment to all of us.They will have there glory at our exspense and show no remorse..They will love beating the team as much as beating down our fans..:crutch:
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Not necessarily. Sure it will be great to win next Sunday, but trust me that will be old news by Tuesday and a distant memory by the following weekend. More wins equal a better chance for the playoffs, not bragging rights for the next year or four.
 
THAT'S OUR RESPECT,THEY DON'T EVEN CONCIDER US A RACK ON THERE MANTEL.You may forget it but I never will.I hate losing and 4 years is a long time for me to be tearing this team up :brickwall

They haven't even beaten the Texans in a regular
season game and they give us no respect!


:logo: :trophy:
 
Hope your coaches were watching the game today.

Blitz up the middle, rattle Bledsoe a few times and he becomes a worthless turnover and sack machine.
 
I really don't think theres a team out there that can't be beat if 52 hearts are in it..I know the spirit of Texas and I know a Superbowl is coming to this city and its great fans..

:logo: :trophy:
 
infantrycak said:
No offense, but this is a question which never needs to be asked. There are definite and well reasoned favorites in almost every game and yet every weekend, much less every year there are surprises. The Texans already have a few in the books--Cowboys 1st game, Steelers with the fewest offensive yds ever, beating the SB losing Panthers, taking the SB winning Pats to overtime, denying the Jags a playoff berth--there is a reason the play the game--on any given sunday.
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The games played on grass not paper ...
Reps to ya Infantrycak
 
Week 1 - Philadelphia - a team we had never beaten -> loss
Week 2 - Indianapolis - a team we had never beaten -> loss
Week 3 - Washington - a team we had never beaten -> loss
Week 4 - Miami - a team that had never beaten us -> win
Week 5 - BYE
Week 6 - Dallas - a team that had never beaten us -> win?
 
Dawkins said:
Hope your coaches were watching the game today.

Blitz up the middle, rattle Bledsoe a few times and he becomes a worthless turnover and sack machine.
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Reminds me of Jim Kelly. The Cowboys and Redskins illustrated that Kelly struggled whenever he was pass rushed, but for some reason the Dolphins never employeed this tactic and continued to lose to the Bills.
 
Dawkins said:
Hope your coaches were watching the game today.

Blitz up the middle, rattle Bledsoe a few times and he becomes a worthless turnover and sack machine.
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If the Texans can keep blitzing, they might have a chance. I understand that was one of the key changes in the Miami game was the decision to blitz more. I hope that during the bye-week, one of the things the coaches looked at was blitzing more with the defense. The Texans have some good blitzers.
 
IMO, the only way we would win would be by pure emotion. They just lost a heartbreaker in Philly and I would expect to see thier best this coming weekend. Will our emotion overcome thiers? Who knows? We'll see!:)
 
dallas lost to philly on some really poor offensive play, way too many turnovers. so I think we need to pressure bledsoe from the start, he doesnt scramble all that well and is prone to interceptions. I'd like to see buchannon back in at the nickle and maybe sanders at the FS spot. I guess that would put mcleon at the no. 2 spot (ouch) but I dont think phillip is strong enough to take that spot just yet, let him play the nickle. cc brown is killing us at FS though, terrible coverage. maybe put buchannon at FS?
 
IF TO continues his little tantrums he began on the field yesterday and IF this disrupts the team (it will sooner or later, I just hope it is sooner), and possibly IF Parcells succumbs to the pressure and starts Romo-then I'd say we had a pretty good shot. Otherwise, I agree with Hou-Tex - whomever has the more positive emotions out there will win.

With any luck and some help from the football gods, Dallas will be exhausted from yesterday's game, think of us as some sort of pesky, incompetent team, thereby allowing us to go up 14 points quickly before they know what hit them:spy: ....and then hold the lead, naturally.

I'll be there yelling for our guys - but I don't think this is a walk in the park by any stretch of the imagination.:gotexans1
 
OSQ said:
If the Texans can keep blitzing, they might have a chance. I understand that was one of the key changes in the Miami game was the decision to blitz more. I hope that during the bye-week, one of the things the coaches looked at was blitzing more with the defense. The Texans have some good blitzers.
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A big difference, is that Philly's LBs take away the short quick routes. Ours don't.
 
TK_Gamer said:
dallas lost to philly on some really poor offensive play, way too many turnovers. so I think we need to pressure bledsoe from the start, he doesnt scramble all that well and is prone to interceptions.
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& they still scored 24 points...... more than enough to beat us on most Sundays.
 
thunderkyss said:
A big difference, is that Philly's LBs take away the short quick routes. Ours don't.
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A big difference is that Houston isn't Philadelphia...


In no relation to TK's post, I want to say again: the Texans have the players, and they have the coaching. I'd take Carr-AJ-Kubiak over Bledsoe-TO-Parcells any day. All the Texans lack is a chip on the shoulders.
 
OSQ said:
A big difference is that Houston isn't Philadelphia...


In no relation to TK's post, I want to say again: the Texans have the players, and they have the coaching. I'd take Carr-AJ-Kubiak over Bledsoe-TO-Parcells any day. All the Texans lack is a chip on the shoulders.
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yeah, I can see Carr-AJ-Kubiak being a wash at worst to Bledsoe-TO-Parcells.... I bet it's kinda like looking in the Mirror, with each guy seeing a younger/older version of themself.
 
Also, a less-talked about aspect of TO's game is that he doesn't respond to players getting physical with him at the line. If your guys can consistently bump him off at the line he starts to hear footsteps and gets alligator arms. That was also on display Sunday.

I honestly think Dallas' major weakness has been exposed. We didn't do much differently than what Jacksonville did to them. Rattle Bledsoe, he's worthless. He short-arms passes even when his receivers are wide open. He can't handle pressure, ask any Patriots or Bills fan.

I believe you guys have a shot at the big upset. Dallas has a solid D, but they are also vulnerable to the big plays downfield. Roy Williams is atrocious in coverage, he practically gave Reggie Brown a TD he had no business getting.

I kinda pull for the Texans, guess I always like the underdog. :P At least the one of the NFL teams in Texas runs a respectable and classy organization.
 
I like performance of Carr and the offense in the passing game this year so far, but I think that there is the potential to expose this aspect of the team.

(1) The running game is pitiful, will have a tough time moving the ball efficiently on the ground.
(2) Unless we can be creative in the passing game and utilize more TE in the passing game underneath, I don't belive that we will be able to efficiently move the ball through the air. We have the potential to be one dimensional in offense in this game.
(3) Blitzing will test the OL again, and it will be hit and miss, literally. Thus TE needs to be more involved in short routes. If Carr has time, he could find openings in the defense.
(4) Bye week layoff... my money is that we lack the intensity in the early going.
(5) Defense, we can't hang with their WR, blitzing better be effective or we are hanging out the secondary to dry.
(6) I think we will be reluctant to run from a 3 WR set, which could create a little more space for the running game.

Just my thoughts, but I wish we would try and spread the field a little in order to open up some running space. Without the run, my fear is the offense is one dimensional and Carr has a so-so game... 2 tds, 2ints. 230 yards passing.
 
Dawkins said:
Also, a less-talked about aspect of TO's game is that he doesn't respond to players getting physical with him at the line. If your guys can consistently bump him off at the line he starts to hear footsteps and gets alligator arms. That was also on display Sunday.
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Not exactly the way I see it.

T.O. feeds on success. Dallas not going to him early(I'm blaming Bledsoe's refusal to challenge the safety/corner tandem(with justifiable cause))....... one or two bad balls, bad catches, in an entire half gets him boiling.

All he's got to go on for a complete half, 4 passes thrown his was...... & the success of those passess, is all he's got to stew over for over an hour & a half.....

You can bump him all day, if he gets a good catches early...... fugitaboudit...
 
thunderkyss said:
Not exactly the way I see it.

T.O. feeds on success. Dallas not going to him early(I'm blaming Bledsoe's refusal to challenge the safety/corner tandem(with justifiable cause))....... one or two bad balls, bad catches, in an entire half gets him boiling.

All he's got to go on for a complete half, 4 passes thrown his was...... & the success of those passess, is all he's got to stew over for over an hour & a half.....

You can bump him all day, if he gets a good catches early...... fugitaboudit...
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I harped on this when he was playing for the Eagles as well. He doesn't respond well to people getting physical with him. He prefers to intimidate whoever is covering him, when you don't let him have that security is when he makes mental errors and does exactly what I said he does earlier in this thread...

It showed when he alligator armed a very catchable pass because Michael Lewis was about to tattoo him.
 
OSQ said:
A big difference is that Houston isn't Philadelphia...


In no relation to TK's post, I want to say again: the Texans have the players, and they have the coaching. I'd take Carr-AJ-Kubiak over Bledsoe-TO-Parcells any day. All the Texans lack is a chip on the shoulders.
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We have the players? Coaching? If this is true why are we 'unsettled' at

-OL
-RB/FB
-DL
-LB
-Secondary

We're solid at WR/have potential at TE/better play at QB-that's it. We are still giving up too many sacks and not pressuring their QB (except a slowed Culpepper). We are ranked at or near the bottom in both offense and defense...

First, you can bet Jerry Jones has not forgotten '02 and Parcells has not forgotten the Eagles game. IMO, we're going to need a lot more than a 'chip' on our shoulder to win this game. Second, we don't score very many points and never have and-like another poster mentioned-the Cowboys scored 8 more pts in defeat than we average...Third, it's going to be 'real' interesting to see what kind of game plan our coaches come up with for this game after all that 'extra' time...:hmmm:
 
tsip said:
We have the players? Coaching? If this is true why are we 'unsettled' at

-OL
-RB/FB
-DL
-LB
-Secondary

We're solid at WR/have potential at TE/better play at QB-that's it. We are still giving up too many sacks and not pressuring their QB (except a slowed Culpepper). We are ranked at or near the bottom in both offense and defense...
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there are only soo many teams that have pro-bowlers at every position. Philly has them on Defense, but guys you couldn't pick out of a lineup on offense at skilled positions.

I know some of you "real fans" know who the Colts starting safety is, I don't.

Who are the LBs in Washington?? after Lavar left, I couldn't care less.

We've got a crap load of players on our team, we are more talented than many.... on paper.

Now we just have to let them go our there and play.

Don't expect miracles in September, but come December(that sounds like a song), we're going to see how bad off we are.

The Cowboys have shown Weaknesses, we've uncovered a few of our strengths, and we're still working things out.

The Cowboys are in trouble,


believe that.
 
thunderkyss said:
there are only soo many teams that have pro-bowlers at every position. Philly has them on Defense, but guys you couldn't pick out of a lineup on offense at skilled positions.

I know some of you "real fans" know who the Colts starting safety is, I don't.

Who are the LBs in Washington?? after Lavar left, I couldn't care less.

We've got a crap load of players on our team, we are more talented than many.... on paper.

Now we just have to let them go our there and play.

Don't expect miracles in September, but come December(that sounds like a song), we're going to see how bad off we are.

The Cowboys have shown Weaknesses, we've uncovered a few of our strengths, and we're still working things out.

The Cowboys are in trouble,


believe that.
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Yeah kyss.:rolleyes: Just like you want us to believe we're going 13-3. :pigfly:
 
Can we beat them, well on paper NO, but i've seen us do it before, of course that was before To and Bledsoe and Parcells. BUT beign the TRUE BLOODED texans fan that i am i say YES WE WILL WIN 27-24.
 
The Cowgirls are 2-2. They won games vs. Tennessee and Washington (without Portis). They are as overhyped as Reggie Bush is. Yes we can beat the Cowgirls, if we play good football, they will fall. Texans 19 Cowgirls 10.
 
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