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Can we beat Dallas?

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Barkley

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I think we have a chance. Classic trap game. We are in between in Eagles and Giants. Let's hope the Cowboys beat the Eagles and get VERY beat up in the process. Hopefully, they will be looking towards the Giants and overlook us.
 
The key is getting pressure on Bledsoe. I think the Cowboys will win, though, seeing as how our LT won't be able to stop DeMarcus Ware AND the DE.
 
I am going to the game the Texans better at least put up one heluva fight. I really don't what to walk out getting crud from the cowgirl fans.
 
good thing is that we got 2 weeks to watch film and prepare, and the texans will be watchin the eagles vs cowboys very closely on sunday
 
No offense, but this is a question which never needs to be asked. There are definite and well reasoned favorites in almost every game and yet every weekend, much less every year there are surprises. The Texans already have a few in the books--Cowboys 1st game, Steelers with the fewest offensive yds ever, beating the SB losing Panthers, taking the SB winning Pats to overtime, denying the Jags a playoff berth--there is a reason the play the game--on any given sunday.
 
Yeah, I think we can much like I think we can beat any other team in this league - the :homer: in me talking here. But it could happen, again. Hope they'll be watching Sundays game against the Eagles and taking notes.
 
No offense, but this is a question which never needs to be asked. There are definite and well reasoned favorites in almost every game and yet every weekend, much less every year there are surprises. The Texans already have a few in the books--Cowboys 1st game, Steelers with the fewest offensive yds ever, beating the SB losing Panthers, taking the SB winning Pats to overtime, denying the Jags a playoff berth--there is a reason the play the game--on any given sunday.
Didn't we do that with an experienced corner? And an experienced linebacker corps?
 
Can we? Sure

Will we... Well, if Philly beats the Cowgirls up, if TO starts talking trash if he doesn't get his way, if the pointy little ball takes some unexpected Houston bounces, etc. Translation, I don't think we are quite there yet. <sigh>

I will be happy if we just play them tough. it's not a blow out and most importantly, continue to show improvement.
 
No offense, but this is a question which never needs to be asked. There are definite and well reasoned favorites in almost every game and yet every weekend, much less every year there are surprises. The Texans already have a few in the books--Cowboys 1st game, Steelers with the fewest offensive yds ever, beating the SB losing Panthers, taking the SB winning Pats to overtime, denying the Jags a playoff berth--there is a reason the play the game--on any given sunday.

As much as I'd like to believe that - and I'm usually a subcriber to the 'any given Sunday' philosophy - I'm still not convinced that our defense can stop anyone. We barely squeaked a win out of Miami, and that's as much due to their incompetence as anything.

Dallas is another matter altogether, and they've got some serious offensive weapons. This is definitely not the 19-10 Cowboys. This is a Parcells team, and they've got an attitude now that will not be matched in intensity by our young team. And let's not even talk about their defense. I don't think we're ready for a shoot out game right now...not if we're too fragile to run a two minute drill.
 
Dude, if we win this game, we could go 2-14 again and I'd still consider this a success! :) There is almost nothing that I wouldn't give to see us win next week Sun.
 
Yes, we could beat them. in order to do so, our defense must have it's best game of the year by farrrrrrr, same for the offense, or we hope dallas has a very bad game in between thier two division games. It could happen.
 
Well its RIVALRY....anything can happen....
Even A&M came close against the Longhorns last year....and UT was one of the best college teams IN ALL-TIME HISTORY...
So, it's gonna be close...but we're playin' in Dallas....
Texans will need ALOT of fan support...but a WIN is possible!
 
I think we have a chance. Classic trap game. We are in between in Eagles and Giants. Let's hope the Cowboys beat the Eagles and get VERY beat up in the process. Hopefully, they will be looking towards the Giants and overlook us.

I think we are a better team than the Giants. If they've got a chance to win, we've got a chance to win.
 
No offense, but this is a question which never needs to be asked. There are definite and well reasoned favorites in almost every game and yet every weekend, much less every year there are surprises. The Texans already have a few in the books--Cowboys 1st game, Steelers with the fewest offensive yds ever, beating the SB losing Panthers, taking the SB winning Pats to overtime, denying the Jags a playoff berth--there is a reason the play the game--on any given sunday.


...exactly
 
I think we are a better team than the Giants. If they've got a chance to win, we've got a chance to win.

LOL, someone needs there coffee this morning, the toast is burnt...

No way we beat the Cowboys. We are not ready yet. A few drafts away from making the transition to being a high caliber NFL team... :hides:

But Go Texans...
 
No offense, but this is a question which never needs to be asked. There are definite and well reasoned favorites in almost every game and yet every weekend, much less every year there are surprises. The Texans already have a few in the books--Cowboys 1st game, Steelers with the fewest offensive yds ever, beating the SB losing Panthers, taking the SB winning Pats to overtime, denying the Jags a playoff berth--there is a reason the play the game--on any given sunday.

It's definetly going to take one of these type games to win this one. Realistically though, we're outmatched in every position except for maybe WR and QB(??). Our secondary is presently the weakest part of the team IMO. I hate to say it, but this game could very well end up like our first three games.

Stranger things have happened though. Who knows?:redtowel:
 
Of course we can beat Dallas. That's not what you want to know. What you want to know is will we beat Dallas.

Sadly I can't answer that. I think that the outcome is either we get beaten very badly or we manage a very close win. I don't think we're nearly as good as they are right now. I wish this game was taking place in week 15 and not week 6.

I just don't think we're ready for them. I could be wrong though. I need to check with the pancake rabbit and see what he says.
 
Dude, if we win this game, we could go 2-14 again and I'd still consider this a success! :) There is almost nothing that I wouldn't give to see us win next week Sun.

See I'm just the opposite. I'd trade this Dallas win plus the next two for a 10-6 record and clear signs that the Kubiak "regime" is on the right track and making progress. Hell I'd trade the outcome of this game for clear evidence that Mario was going to be the player that the Texans told us he could be.

Seriously man, these are just the Cowboys. It's not like what they're doing or anything means more to me than what the Vikings, Seahawks, or Falcons are doing. All this obsession over beating them just makes most of you guys look like that obsessed little brother who live his whole life thinking about beating his older brother at something. Let it go guys. It makes you look small.
 
IMO, coaching will be the key to this game and-certainly-Parcells has a major 'heads-up' here. Saying that, though, Kubiak has already 'set' himself up with his rhetoric about giving the players so much time off during the bye week. According to Gary, the extra time was to be spent on the coaches-where the team is at/where the team needs to go/what's working or not working/what players are producing/what changes need to be made,etc.

Ok, the 'table' has been set. The fans are being set-up for 'new' -or at least-different 'things' on the field, all 'geared' toward giving us the best chance to beat Dallas. Right? If not, Kubiak IMO will take a 'major' hit in the credibility department. What player changes will be made? What 'fixes' will be made to the running game? What about pass protection and rushing the passer?

Without question, I want us to beat the Cowboys! However-if we lose-IMO, 'how' we lose will be the key. If we 'roll' out a team with a game plan that 'attacks' the Cowboys and plays to our players strength and results in minimum mistakes and maximum player effort but still get beat...I can 'live' with that. On the other hand-after all the 'round table' discussions-our play does the:brickwall same-o/same-o, I won't be a 'happy' camper.

JMO, but Kubiak needs to give us 'positive' signs that he sees our problems and-at the very least-tries to correct them. I don't expect him to be perfect and make the right decision every time but-after 4 years of making virtually no changes under Capers-it IMO would be a step in the right direction to at least try something else...:twocents:
 
The Texans should beat Dallas and have the tools to do it. Houston has a great blitzing package, when used properly, so they have the ability to stay in Bledsoe's face and keep the ball out of Glenn's/TO's hands. Demeco is a stout player, and Mario is improving.

On Offense, the Texans should be able to take out the trash with more great passing. The running team should start clicking, and the week of rest should shore up the o-line, anchored by an ex-Bronco. The Texans have better running back and TE blocking this year, which should also continue to support the team.

And yes, Dallas is going to have a hard time battling Houston and not thinking towards NY.

Basically, for me it continues to be a matter of expectations. With new coaching, new schemes, and better players, I fully expect the Texans to win. Will they rise up to their potential? That's a different question. I am seeing it in Carr, AJ, Moulds, and Demeco, but not in many other players.
 
Can we beat Dallas?

Lets just say I wouldn't buy any furniture.

Stat wise, this is how we match up.

Dallas O ranks 6th with 362 ypg/Texans D ranks 32nd giving up 435.0 ypg

Texans O ranks 29th 269.2 ypg/Dallas D ranks 5th giving up 260.3 ypg

Dallas passing O ranks 15th with 214.0 yards per game/Texans passing D 32nd giving up 295.0 ypg

Texans passing O ranks 21st with 193.2 ypg/Dallas passing D ranks 8th with 177.3 ypg

Dallas rushing O ranks 5th with 147.7 ypg/Texans rushing D ranks 24th giving up 139.8 ypg

Texans rushing O ranks 27th with 76 ypg/ Dallas rushing D ranks 9th giving up 83.0 ypg

Dallas scoring O ranks 2nd/Texans scoring D 27th

Houston scoring O ranks 24th/Dallas scoring D 8th



Any given Sunday right?
 
yeah we had such a great team....
and the greatest cowboys coach of alltime
dave campo...:sarcasm:

you guys have no chance.
our defense is just too good...
i do wish you texans well for the rest of the season.....

I'm not sure you have heard, but our passing game has been exceptional against 3 great defenses. So preach on and you will be sad come next Sunday afternoon about 3:00, but we'll all be there to cheer you out of your stadium. :yahoo: :texan:
 
Well its RIVALRY....anything can happen....
Even A&M came close against the Longhorns last year....and UT was one of the best college teams IN ALL-TIME HISTORY...
So, it's gonna be close...but we're playin' in Dallas....
Texans will need ALOT of fan support...but a WIN is possible!

Dallas does not look at the Texans as a rivalry (not when they've got the Redskins, Eagles, and Giants twice a year each).

Houston fans look at it as a rivalry, but these teams only play each other every five seasons. It's hard to develop a rivalry when you rarely see each other.

While anything is possible, I have to measure it with probability. And it is highly probable that Dallas will stomp us. But you never know....
 
Dallas does not look at the Texans as a rivalry (not when they've got the Redskins, Eagles, and Giants twice a year each).

Houston fans look at it as a rivalry, but these teams only play each other every five seasons. It's hard to develop a rivalry when you rarely see each other.

While anything is possible, I have to measure it with probability. And it is highly probable that Dallas will stomp us. But you never know....


Yep!
 
I'd like to see the Cowboys take an emotional hard-fought victory from a real rival, Philly, on the road on Sunday. Spend themselves. Feel good about themselves in the afterglow. Overlook us a bit. If they lose at Philly, Parcells will accept nothing less than a complete and total thrashing of their next opponent.

Dallas has allowed the second fewest sacks in the league (3). Bledsoe is a statue but he's a well protected statue.
 
Can we beat Dallas?

Lets just say I wouldn't buy any furniture.

Stat wise, this is how we match up.

Dallas O ranks 6th with 362 ypg/Texans D ranks 32nd giving up 435.0 ypg

Texans O ranks 29th 269.2 ypg/Dallas D ranks 5th giving up 260.3 ypg

Dallas passing O ranks 15th with 214.0 yards per game/Texans passing D 32nd giving up 295.0 ypg

Texans passing O ranks 21st with 193.2 ypg/Dallas passing D ranks 8th with 177.3 ypg

Dallas rushing O ranks 5th with 147.7 ypg/Texans rushing D ranks 24th giving up 139.8 ypg

Texans rushing O ranks 27th with 76 ypg/ Dallas rushing D ranks 9th giving up 83.0 ypg

Dallas scoring O ranks 2nd/Texans scoring D 27th

Houston scoring O ranks 24th/Dallas scoring D 8th



Any given Sunday right?

Trust me, all that will change after the game.
 
Dallas does not look at the Texans as a rivalry (not when they've got the Redskins, Eagles, and Giants twice a year each).

Houston fans look at it as a rivalry, but these teams only play each other every five seasons. It's hard to develop a rivalry when you rarely see each other.

While anything is possible, I have to measure it with probability. And it is highly probable that Dallas will stomp us. But you never know....

From someone living in the area:

This take is very accurate. The Cowboy fans barely acknowledge that the Texans exist. Pretty much think of the Texans as no more than Browns or some other generic bad, boring football organization. That 19-10 victory is seen as a joke because in Cowboy fan mind it is the high point of the Texans years in existence.
 
Certainly the Texans can pull off a road upset of the Crackboys. I have the recipe right here:

Ingredients
  • 4 quarters of firmly sacked Bledsoe, finely minced*
  • 4 quarters of effective zone blocking, roughly chopped*
  • 3 freshly picked passes, returned to taste*
  • 4 quarters of run stuffing, firmly packed*
  • 1 Texans quarterback, standing tall*
Mix all ingredients with a large spork and pour through the hole in the roof of that gawdawful eyesore of a stadium. Stir the pot well.

Garnish with catcalls. Serve cold.

* Ingredient may be difficult to locate locally. Recommended substitute: Pie In The Sky or Rubbertree Plant.

:play:
 
From someone living in the area:

This take is very accurate. The Cowboy fans barely acknowledge that the Texans exist. Pretty much think of the Texans as no more than Browns or some other generic bad, boring football organization. That 19-10 victory is seen as a joke because in Cowboy fan mind it is the high point of the Texans years in existence.

I've been told the only reason Cowboys fans remember that 19-10 game is because we keep bringing it up. :superman:

Many folks from Dallas have said that they see the Texans as a kid brother, and have no ill-will towards our team. Matter-of-fact, I've been told that some Cowboys fans root for us because 1) we're from Texas, and 2) we're an AFC team. It's kinda' hard to hate on them when they give you that kind of love, 'eh?

This so-called 'rivalry' seems to be a one-way street, and only Texans fans are driving on that particular street.
 
I've been told the only reason Cowboys fans remember that 19-10 game is because we keep bringing it up. :superman:

Many folks from Dallas have said that they see the Texans as a kid brother, and have no ill-will towards our team. Matter-of-fact, I've been told that some Cowboys fans root for us because 1) we're from Texas, and 2) we're an AFC team. It's kinda' hard to hate on them when they give you that kind of love, 'eh?

This so-called 'rivalry' seems to be a one-way street, and only Texans fans are driving on that particular street.

All correct IMO. Grew up in Dallas and the attitude to the Oilers was predominately ignore them or root for them as another Texas team. I always liked the idea of an all Texas Super Bowl. I'd say it is more of a game with obvious curb appeal for hyping than a rivalry from the Dallas standpoint.
 
From someone living in the area:

This take is very accurate. The Cowboy fans barely acknowledge that the Texans exist. Pretty much think of the Texans as no more than Browns or some other generic bad, boring football organization. That 19-10 victory is seen as a joke because in Cowboy fan mind it is the high point of the Texans years in existence.

You're up there, so I give you full credit for your assessment. I must add though, as being one of THEM, and having been in Texas Stadium I have witnessed the following:
-The Texans beating the Steelers was received with a loud cheer (this was the same year as the 19-10 loss)
-The confused look on the faces of Boys fans when the Texans came to town for their first pre-season game, and Texan fans shamelessly booed Jerry Jones in his own stadium. OMG, the fans behavior must have embarrassed Bob McNair tremendously. Since then I believe both decided to forego the introductions and hand out in the suites.
-In reading various message boards, the response to the Texans has been favorable unless a troll shows up.
-The Cowboys fans did have a hard time understanding why the Texans threw so many games only to draft Mario Williams.

Given what A-T said among others, we have a very hard time giving the Texans rivalry status. It is pointless. Bragging rights should the Texans win, ok, but to brew and stew for the next four years over who will win in year 2011, nope, that energy has to be reserved for those other three in our division who have the greatest impact on any playoff hopes.

I can truthfully say that I don't know any Cowboy fans with any grudge wishes against the Texans. Of course there are some out there, but not in the numbers that some might believe.
 
I can truthfully say that I don't know any Cowboy fans with any grudge wishes against the Texans. Of course there are some out there, but not in the numbers that some might believe.

I think this a good summation of the situation as a variety of us have described.
 
good thing is that we got 2 weeks to watch film and prepare, and the texans will be watchin the eagles vs cowboys very closely on sunday

Incorrect! Our boys were given a mini vacation as a reward for beating Miami! Kinda hard to watch film and prepare when they are scattered around all over the country.

The outcome of this game will boil down to the decisions made on the sideline. The smartest coach with the most GUTS will experience the win!! JMO!! BUT, it wouldn't hurt if our fine feathered friends from Philly took a lot of zip out of the "girls!" Maybe their fans will be so loud they will leave TO with a ringing in his ears that will last the rest of the season!!:wild:
 
Of course.
If a rivalry gets our players up to play then let's use it, if just winning is enough let's use that, we can be 2 & 3 next Sunday, and that is the target. The Texans have the coaching staff that SHOULD be able to adjust, and after four games they can look at effort & result and see what actually worked in the first four games, and use it to put the right players in the right places at the right time.

Now for Homers perdiction:homer:" Last weeks win was the beginning our first 7 game win streak."

Thank you Homer
 
I've been told the only reason Cowboys fans remember that 19-10 game is because we keep bringing it up. :superman:

Many folks from Dallas have said that they see the Texans as a kid brother, and have no ill-will towards our team. Matter-of-fact, I've been told that some Cowboys fans root for us because 1) we're from Texas, and 2) we're an AFC team. It's kinda' hard to hate on them when they give you that kind of love, 'eh?

This so-called 'rivalry' seems to be a one-way street, and only Texans fans are driving on that particular street.

I do that for the Cowboys, too. They are in the NFC, and if the Texans lose, I want at leaston one Texas team to win. Seems fair to me.
 
I've been told the only reason Cowboys fans remember that 19-10 game is because we keep bringing it up. :superman:

Many folks from Dallas have said that they see the Texans as a kid brother, and have no ill-will towards our team. Matter-of-fact, I've been told that some Cowboys fans root for us because 1) we're from Texas, and 2) we're an AFC team. It's kinda' hard to hate on them when they give you that kind of love, 'eh?

This so-called 'rivalry' seems to be a one-way street, and only Texans fans are driving on that particular street.

I really think that's true. The Cowboys fans I know all treat the Texans as their second favorite NFL team and wish us the best when they're not playin' us. BUT, the sad part is they laugh at us too, but who can blame them after last year? I hear things like, "Don't worry. It'll get better," and there's that little hint of, "Ha! Ha!" there, but I doubt they can help it.
 
While many will consider this game a "trap" for the Cowboys, you can sure as heck bet to you the man up front-- Jerry Jones, will not let that happen. It was Jerry who suffered the most on the fateful 2002 evening, Jerry who was screamed at as he walked off the field (by Walker I believe?).

He will not let the Cowboys lose focus on the task at hand, despite whatever the result of the Eagle's game may be.

But if you want to look at it from a football standpoint.. I druel at the thought of Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Jason Witten, against the likes of Sanders and Dunta Robinson. It intoxicates me thinking of the Cowboy's Doomsday III beating up on whoever may the Texan RB may be this Sunday. Our offensive line has over-achieved by enormous amounts, and are just hitting their strides. The cylinders are hitting all over the place in Big D.

This isn't the same Cowboys, coming off of ESPN camera traning camp, filming their every move as Dave Campo tried to attempt Nucke Rockney speeches to the un-inspired, pathetic scrubs of Cowboys. This is Bill Parcells we're talking.
 
Of course.
If a rivalry gets our players up to play then let's use it, if just winning is enough let's use that, we can be 2 & 3 next Sunday, and that is the target. The Texans have the coaching staff that SHOULD be able to adjust, and after four games they can look at effort & result and see what actually worked in the first four games, and use it to put the right players in the right places at the right time.

Now for Homers perdiction:homer:" Last weeks win was the beginning our first 7 game win streak."

Thank you Homer

Hahahaha! I LOVE IT!
 
While many will consider this game a "trap" for the Cowboys, you can sure as heck bet to you the man up front-- Jerry Jones, will not let that happen. It was Jerry who suffered the most on the fateful 2002 evening, Jerry who was screamed at as he walked off the field (by Walker I believe?).

He will not let the Cowboys lose focus on the task at hand, despite whatever the result of the Eagle's game may be.

But if you want to look at it from a football standpoint.. I druel at the thought of Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Jason Witten, against the likes of Sanders and Dunta Robinson. It intoxicates me thinking of the Cowboy's Doomsday III beating up on whoever may the Texan RB may be this Sunday. Our offensive line has over-achieved by enormous amounts, and are just hitting their strides. The cylinders are hitting all over the place in Big D.

This isn't the same Cowboys, coming off of ESPN camera traning camp, filming their every move as Dave Campo tried to attempt Nucke Rockney speeches to the un-inspired, pathetic scrubs of Cowboys. This is Bill Parcells we're talking.


None of that really matters. Our guys want it worse than your guys....That's the Homer talking. I say that while believing that we are seriously outmatched at this stage, but I've seen us be out matched before, and pull it off. So, I BELIEVE!!!!
 
Who needs to beat the Cowboys ? All you Cowboy haters who lay around for 4 years waiting to play them, my suggestion to you is "get a life".
The team I want to knock off is the Colts. Who knows, come the end of the
year when they get to town, we might have a chance. What a way to finish
up the year and look to the '07 season !
 
Many folks from Dallas have said that they see the Texans as a kid brother, and have no ill-will towards our team.

& what self-respecting lil brother don't want to kick Bubba's ass???

The thing about the Cowboys though, is that everybody hates them. 'skins, Packers, Eagles, 'niners, bears, Titans, every body. I visit forums of other teams, I like players...... & I see hate for the Cowboys from Bucs, Colts, Saints, Falcons, Bills(wonder why), everybody.

I think because we are so close, it just gets talked about a little more here.

I do think it's kinda embarrassing, that we've been talking about the game since the end of last season, and they haven't given it much of a thought.
 
Just something to ponder and less of a prediction.

The Texans, as a team getting used to a new system and playing together have faced, according to Football Outsiders, the 4th hardest schedule in the league.

The Cowboys have faced the 25th hardest schedule in the league, and got fat stats destroying a Titans team that is in absolute chaos.

League ranks at this time of year can be misleading--do the Texans opponents look so strong because they destroyed the Texans so badly? Are the Cowboys top rankings due to facing some crapatola opponents?

We will know more about this Cowboy team after the Eagles game. Even then, they are not facing the same Eagle team the Texans faced--the Eagles are way more dinged up now.

The questions are:

whether the Texans have learned up their new systems, players and working together enough to compete.

whether they can game plan better coming out of the bye. Coaches are spending the bye figuring out stuff to improve--maybe they figure some key stuff out.

whether the Cowboys get spent with the Eagles or over confident against the Texans

what Texans defense shows up. It wasn't that long ago that panicky Cowboy fans were wanting Romo to replace the statue Bledsoe. If the defense can be just reasonable, and not awful, the Texans offense has a chance to break stuff open with any given play.

can the Texans establish the run at all and get their line healthy and up to speed. They need to be good enough so that Carr doesn't have to cough it up.
 
good thing is that we got 2 weeks to watch film and prepare, and the texans will be watchin the eagles vs cowboys very closely on sunday

You guys could watch a freakin library worth of film and it still wont help. My crystal ball is fortelling "Something Wicked Comes This Way"

:fortune:
 
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