Camp Divided?

[DRAMA]

I guess I'm not understanding something. The vile towards Reggie Bush to me seems to rival the vile towards the Cowboys...as if Reggie is the enemy and has done something wrong. Another thing that I find hard to understand is WHY we (Those of us who want Bush for OUR team) are WITHOUT QUESTION completely and utterly wrong?

How can drafting Reggie Bush AUTOMATICALLY be the wrong thing if I, SOME others on this board, SOME experts around the NFL, SOME Coaches, SOME Media, SOME fans in general want and think that his skills will help 'our' team?

How can we be AUTOMATICALLY and completely wrong but everyone who does NOT want Bush is AUTOMATICALLY right?

How is that? Does it also mean that if we want Bush that we're Texan haters? Kinda like us who think David needs to step up and get better are AUTOMATICALLY called Carr-haters?

If we want Kubiak/ Jimmy Johnson and the anti-Bush people want, let's say, Pete Carroll/ Al Saunders...does that mean we're wrong in this area too? Because if we're not wrong about one thing then maybe we could be right about Bush. If THAT's the case, then how can we be told BUSH is AUTOMATICALLY wrong for us and our team?

Two things:

1. Those of us who want Bush would most likely be happy with and top flight OL, maybe Hawk, maybe Marcedes, maybe an extra #1, etc...(IMHO)

but

2. If Bush is 'OUR' selection, and by 'OUR' I mean everyone who follows the Texans, could those people enjoy watching Bush or would that same anti-Bush vile be prevalent in their posts?

No tone - No inflection - just an opinion.

 

[utahmark]

I guess I'm not understanding something. The vile towards Reggie Bush to me seems to rival the vile towards the Cowboys...as if Reggie is the enemy and has done something wrong. Another thing that I find hard to understand is WHY we (Those of us who want Bush for OUR team) are WITHOUT QUESTION completely and utterly wrong?

How can drafting Reggie Bush AUTOMATICALLY be the wrong thing if I, SOME others on this board, SOME experts around the NFL, SOME Coaches, SOME Media, SOME fans in general want and think that his skills will help 'our' team?

How can we be AUTOMATICALLY and completely wrong but everyone who does NOT want Bush is AUTOMATICALLY right?

How is that? Does it also mean that if we want Bush that we're Texan haters? Kinda like us who think David needs to step up and get better are AUTOMATICALLY called Carr-haters?

If we want Kubiak/ Jimmy Johnson and the anti-Bush people want, let's say, Pete Carroll/ Al Saunders...does that mean we're wrong in this area too? Because if we're not wrong about one thing then maybe we could be right about Bush. If THAT's the case, then how can we be told BUSH is AUTOMATICALLY wrong for us and our team?

Two things:

1. Those of us who want Bush would most likely be happy with and top flight OL, maybe Hawk, maybe Marcedes, maybe an extra #1, etc...(IMHO)

2. If Bush is 'OUR' selection, and by 'OUR' I mean everyone who follows the Texans, could those people enjoy watching Bush or would that same anti-Bush vile be prevalent in their posts?

No tone - No inflection - just an opinion.

i hope we dont get bush but the second they call his name ill be his biggest fan. ive also heard some good things about his attitude so it shouldnt be hard for us to like him.

your still wrong though!!!

 

[DRAMA]

Well, I was hoping I wrong about people being divided so it's good to know that IF, and that's still I gigantic IF, he's the pick that he becomes Public Favorite #1!

 

[tulexan]

Reggie Bush is seen as the enemy for two reasons.
1) He is seen as being the one to replace a fan favorite like Dominack Davis. (Although I don't see why we couldn't have both on the team)
2) He is playing for the enemy in some eyes, and by enemy I mean USC who is playing against Texas in the Rose Bowl.

If we do get Bush, which I hope we do, I think a lot of the anti-Bush people will convert to pro-Bush people when they see how he produces. I also think that a lot of anti-Bush people might convert when they see how dominating he is against Texas.

 

[CajunTexan]

Well, I was hoping I wrong about people being divided so it's good to know that IF, and that's still I gigantic IF, he's the pick that he becomes Public Favorite #1!

Drama...I think the issue is not the selection of Bush. What I see as the issue, is the attitude of some that seem to want the team to "intentionally" loose in order to draft Bush.

What I want is for the Texans to go out and play their a**** off and hopefully win every game they play. If the outcome of that effort is that we end up 1-15 and draft Bush, great. But, just the same if the outcome of that effort is we end up 4-12 and draft whoever, that is fine also.

 

[Grid]

Id be fine with getting bush and I would root for him every Sunday. I honestly think that he COULD end up being a great back in the NFL.. maybe one of the best.. but I still think he is the WRONG decision for this team. We have DD who is himself a very good back who could possibly be great if he had more help.

We NEED an Oline.. we NEED a passing game.. we dont NEED Reggie Bush.

But like I said.. if we take him.. ill be happy to have him... though I will feel like we completely and utterly betrayed Davis. it would, to me, be the same as drafting a WR to replace Johnson. I think Johnson is awesome..potentially one of the best in the league.. but we have misused him and our lack of pass protection makes him look worse than he is..by far. Drafting a WR to replace him would not solve any of our problems.. it would just be us turning our backs on a great player who we have not properly utilized.. and replacing him with another potentially great player who we still will not be able to properly utilize..cause our line sucks.

It is the exact same way with Davis.. hes playing great..hes a great back.. he has tons of heart and a great work ethic.. but here we are talking about replacing him... and actually its not exactly the same, because with Davis, he HAS performed at a high level.. he HAS shown that he is a talented RB.. but still we look to replace him. It would be a major stab in the back to Davis if we drafted his replacement.. instead of drafting the Olinemen we need to fix our offense and let Davis really shine.

 

[Hardcore Texan]

I really like Reggie Bush, he is a very humble, talented, and spectactular young man. He will be a fantastic pro athelete. That being said, I don't know if he is the answer for our team versus trading down for a bunch of picks. When is the last time we made good choices anyway. But I am certainly not a Bush - hater by any stretch of the imagination. It will be very hard decision, how do you pass on a talent like Bush, and how do you address all the other needs of this team ( Offense and Deffense ).

I guess I don't understand how anyone can be over-critical of a decision that has not happened yet, especially considering the impending coaching changes.

 

[Wolf]

Id be fine with getting bush and I would root for him every Sunday. I honestly think that he COULD end up being a great back in the NFL.. maybe one of the best.. but I still think he is the WRONG decision for this team. We have DD who is himself a very good back who could possibly be great if he had more help.

We NEED an Oline.. we NEED a passing game.. we dont NEED Reggie Bush.

But like I said.. if we take him.. ill be happy to have him... though I will feel like we completely and utterly betrayed Davis. it would, to me, be the same as drafting a WR to replace Johnson. I think Johnson is awesome..potentially one of the best in the league.. but we have misused him and our lack of pass protection makes him look worse than he is..by far. Drafting a WR to replace him would not solve any of our problems.. it would just be us turning our backs on a great player who we have not properly utilized.. and replacing him with another potentially great player who we still will not be able to properly utilize..cause our line sucks.

It is the exact same way with Davis.. hes playing great..hes a great back.. he has tons of heart and a great work ethic.. but here we are talking about replacing him... and actually its not exactly the same, because with Davis, he HAS performed at a high level.. he HAS shown that he is a talented RB.. but still we look to replace him. It would be a major stab in the back to Davis if we drafted his replacement.. instead of drafting the Olinemen we need to fix our offense and let Davis really shine.

I can agree with that.. Although I think Davis is solid but not spectacular.. I would like to see an upgrade in OL .. a legit TE and a number 2 WR.. I think davis could be effective in this league.(week in and week out)

 

[Hardcore Texan]

Id be fine with getting bush and I would root for him every Sunday. I honestly think that he COULD end up being a great back in the NFL.. maybe one of the best.. but I still think he is the WRONG decision for this team. We have DD who is himself a very good back who could possibly be great if he had more help.

We NEED an Oline.. we NEED a passing game.. we dont NEED Reggie Bush.

But like I said.. if we take him.. ill be happy to have him... though I will feel like we completely and utterly betrayed Davis. it would, to me, be the same as drafting a WR to replace Johnson. I think Johnson is awesome..potentially one of the best in the league.. but we have misused him and our lack of pass protection makes him look worse than he is..by far. Drafting a WR to replace him would not solve any of our problems.. it would just be us turning our backs on a great player who we have not properly utilized.. and replacing him with another potentially great player who we still will not be able to properly utilize..cause our line sucks.

It is the exact same way with Davis.. hes playing great..hes a great back.. he has tons of heart and a great work ethic.. but here we are talking about replacing him... and actually its not exactly the same, because with Davis, he HAS performed at a high level.. he HAS shown that he is a talented RB.. but still we look to replace him. It would be a major stab in the back to Davis if we drafted his replacement.. instead of drafting the Olinemen we need to fix our offense and let Davis really shine.

This is a nice assessment of what is going on, not that I wouldn't welcome a talented guy like Bush.

I also read somewhere that Davis was asked about drafting Bush and is very aware of what the fans are calling for....I just hope he knows there are plenty of us who couldn't love him more.

DD is awesome!

 

[MorKnolle]

I do not have a problem with Bush, I think he will be a good, probably very good NFL player, and I wouldn't mind seeing him on the Texans other than I think he would not fit very well with the way our team is currently put together and I think that what we would possibly be giving up on to draft him (top OLineman and multiple extra draft picks) outweighs the benefits of getting him. If Bush comes here then by all means I will support and root for him but I personally do not see him as being the best option for our team at this point. If he'd come out last year before Davis solidified himself as our main RB and before his contract extension and before seeing so many holes develop in our team then I'd be in the Reggie Bush camp, but as our team currently is I am left believing that it is in our best interest to move in a different direction.

 

[WWJD]

The main thing for the Texans is whatever player or players they pick in the upcoming draft they get on the field AND produce. The Texans are in desperate need of playmakers...players that make the difference between winning and losing. Whether it's offense or defense I don't care. Just get a PLAYMAKER!

 

[Wolf]

take this for what it is worth.. talking about running styles and not people

If Bush ran like Earl Campbell. with speed and flat out ran over people etc.. I could see us taking him.. reasoning because of how bad Earls line was and how bad Bush's line would be here ...

 

[samomin]

Its just a thought but what if Reggie Bush pulls an Eli manning before the draft.

 

[WWJD]

He hasn't even said he is coming out. He may do just what Leinart did last year.

 

[Hervoyel]

What has happened Drama is that in the course of arguing back and forth about what to do with the draft pick (should we get it) we have reached a point where the sides have become so polarized that there's just no point in talking about this with anyone who disagrees with you. I mean that whether you're on the draft Reggie Bush side or if you're on the "whatever else it was you wanted to do with the pick" side. It's just pointless to talk about it from here on out.

We still will talk about it of course. That's why there's a board here to post messages. It's just that you're not going to be able to talk about it for long before the conversation degenerates into a bitter disagreement. I've already placed a handful of posters on ignore over this (and my ignore amounted to exactly one poster before the subject of Reggie Bush came up).

I figure I'll resume talking to these people and reading what they have to say within a few minutes of the pick being either used or traded. Until then I just don't care.

 

[Wolf]

What has happened Drama is that in the course of arguing back and forth about what to do with the draft pick (should we get it) we have reached a point where the sides have become so polarized that there's just no point in talking about this with anyone who disagrees with you. I mean that whether you're on the draft Reggie Bush side or if you're on the "whatever else it was you wanted to do with the pick" side. It's just pointless to talk about it from here on out.

We still will talk about it of course. That's why there's a board here to post messages. It's just that you're not going to be able to talk about it for long before the conversation degenerates into a bitter disagreement. I've already placed a handful of posters on ignore over this (and my ignore amounted to exactly one poster before the subject of Reggie Bush came up).

I figure I'll resume talking to these people and reading what they have to say within a few minutes of the pick being either used or traded. Until then I just don't care.

I dont know about you but I first thought the "sean Taylor" threads were wild. Last year was DJ and that took it to a new level.. now ...we have hit the stratusphere with the RB threads

 

[Honch Delgado]

He already took out a multimillion $ insurance policy so he most likely is coming out. I would like him in the backfield as well as Davis splitting carries, a nice 1-2 punch. I also wouldn't mind trading down as long as we took good prospects and they don't turn out to be bums.

 

[Grid]

I dont know about you but I first thought the "sean Taylor" threads were wild. Last year was DJ and that took it to a new level.. now ...we have hit the stratusphere with the RB threads

at this rate of increase.. im figuring we will see bloodshed by 2007.. and the U.N. will have to step in around 2010-2012.

 

[Hervoyel]

Sean Taylor made me nervous but I recall not really having a solid opinion about him. DJ I was very much opposed to passing up though and felt that the Texans made a sick mistake in doing that. Time will tell. Reggie Bush I also feel strongly about and think if we get the chance we should take him.

Time will tell of course but yeah, this is going to be an ugly time on the board.

 

[angeltexus]

Lets for one minute jump into this dream that Bush will automatically score 2-3 touchdowns per game. Heck if we draft a good lineman, tight end and another widereceiver (Andre, Dominick, and Carr to tightends) could score just as much. I think Reggie is just to small and might end up being another bust on the runningbacks list.

 

[Wolf]

Sean Taylor made me nervous but I recall not really having a solid opinion about him. DJ I was very much opposed to passing up though and felt that the Texans made a sick mistake in doing that. Time will tell. Reggie Bush I also feel strongly about and think if we get the chance we should take him.

Time will tell of course but yeah, this is going to be an ugly time on the board.

About drafting Bush and the way the year has gone.
I think the way things are going for the Texans, I think of that retirement commercial where it shows the Cowboys getting running back with the first pick and the guy does his heisman pose yet falls down the stairs ... and the punchline is like "life comes fast"
something along that line

 

[Wolf]

Go ahead ruin Reggie Bush's career like you did to David Carr's.
If your crappy OL can't block for DC, then why could they for Reggie?

-USC alum 1986

because we can run block but can't pass block

 

[Hervoyel]

Lets for one minute jump into this dream that Bush will automatically score 2-3 touchdowns per game. Heck if we draft a good lineman, tight end and another widereceiver (Andre, Dominick, and Carr to tightends) could score just as much. I think Reggie is just to small and might end up being another bust on the runningbacks list.

You automatically assume that everyone who thinks drafting Reggie Bush is dreaming that he will score 2-3 touchdowns per game. That's not exactly the truth.

I've seen many people opposed to drafting Reggie Bush claim that those who want him have unrealistic expectations. On the other hand I've only seen a couple of truly "out there" posters thinking Reggie Bush is going to leap a tall building in a single bound every Sunday.

 

[zeplin]

Detroit had Barry Sanders undoubtably one of the greatest if not the greatest RB of all time. They failed to build a superbowl caliber team to play around him. I like Reggie Bush and it is exciting to watch his magic act and if he ended up here I would enjoy watching him play. That being said I feel that if we fail to address the real problems on this team it won't matter how exciting he is to watch when your 1-11 1-12 1-13 will it really matter. I have been in pain for a entire football season It almost smells like Bud is in the house again.
Offensive line.....D'BRICKASHAW FERGUSON this is a better solution to our overall problem. No passing game.

 

[Goldeagle]

I guess I'm not understanding something. The vile towards Reggie Bush to me seems to rival the vile towards the Cowboys...as if Reggie is the enemy and has done something wrong. Another thing that I find hard to understand is WHY we (Those of us who want Bush for OUR team) are WITHOUT QUESTION completely and utterly wrong?

How can drafting Reggie Bush AUTOMATICALLY be the wrong thing if I, SOME others on this board, SOME experts around the NFL, SOME Coaches, SOME Media, SOME fans in general want and think that his skills will help 'our' team?

How can we be AUTOMATICALLY and completely wrong but everyone who does NOT want Bush is AUTOMATICALLY right?

How is that? Does it also mean that if we want Bush that we're Texan haters? Kinda like us who think David needs to step up and get better are AUTOMATICALLY called Carr-haters?

If we want Kubiak/ Jimmy Johnson and the anti-Bush people want, let's say, Pete Carroll/ Al Saunders...does that mean we're wrong in this area too? Because if we're not wrong about one thing then maybe we could be right about Bush. If THAT's the case, then how can we be told BUSH is AUTOMATICALLY wrong for us and our team?

Two things:

1. Those of us who want Bush would most likely be happy with and top flight OL, maybe Hawk, maybe Marcedes, maybe an extra #1, etc...(IMHO)

but

2. If Bush is 'OUR' selection, and by 'OUR' I mean everyone who follows the Texans, could those people enjoy watching Bush or would that same anti-Bush vile be prevalent in their posts?

No tone - No inflection - just an opinion.

I have not seen anyone hate on Bush. I dont want him but I dont hate the guy. I want the Offensive line we have all wanted after year 1 just our staff had no clue what we all knew.

If we take Bush ok, I hope he lives up to everything they make him out to be. But I do feel he is a bit undersized to sustain the NFL schedule.

 

[tulexan]

Lets for one minute jump into this dream that Bush will automatically score 2-3 touchdowns per game. Heck if we draft a good lineman, tight end and another widereceiver (Andre, Dominick, and Carr to tightends) could score just as much. I think Reggie is just to small and might end up being another bust on the runningbacks list.

I'm sorry but I'm not buying the too small argument. Warrick Dunn is 180 pounds. Tiki Barber is 200. Tatum Bell is 212. Reggie Bush at the beginning of the season was listed at 200 pounds. I have seen recently that he is 205. He entered USC at 185. That means that he has gained 20 pounds and not only has he not lost a step, but he has gotten better. This is all before he has entered the NFL and been subject to an NFL diet and weight rooms. He will add probably 10 or 15 pounds of muscle once he does so.

 

[SESupergenius]

I've seen enough of Bush to know that he is very good at running the ball and catching it out of the backfield. I loved it that Tomlinson took him under his wing last spring and showed him the ropes. My only concern is his pass blocking abilities and between the tackles running. This I will have to watch more when he goes against Texas. After looking at it, having him and DD on the team is not as bad as you think. Just look at KC(Holmes, KJ) and a host of other teams that have 2 very good backs. Although that would leave us with 5 backs now and no hope for Morency, a 3rd round pick that once again was wasted, thank you Casserly. It wouldn't bother me if we took Bush, but it wouldn't bother me either me either if we took a talent like DeAngelo Williams if we traded down a couple of slots and picked up some extra draft picks to fill our other needs in Safety, TE, Oline and LB.

 

[Hervoyel]

Cool! Green Bay just gave us another game of breathing room from them. The Jets got a win today too. All of the previously 2-10 teams are cooperating except for San Francisco.

Now if the 49ers can find it in their heart to win one more game before we play them I'll be a happy man.

 

[DRAMA]

I just think that our biggest need - OL - can be addressed through free agency or other rounds. We can't get a Bush in FA.

I think Reggie and DD could EASILY...EASILY find a way to coexist - like the Chiefs, Cowboys, Dolphins, Patriots, etc.. I think that if you draft Bush, he'll eventually become the main guy...DD WAS drafted to be a 3rd down back anyway.

But even if DD is in, Bush easily splits to the slot.

And one other HUGE NOTE....

Reggie will NOT be running behind THIS line.
Carr will NOT be throwing behind THIS line.
Our new coach will NOT tolerate THIS line.

...and we will NOT be running this 8th grade offense next year. All we can do is predict with Bush but that prediction comes with a coach, OL, draft, etc prediction as well. BUT..if we can Hershel Walker someone, I wish Reggie the best of luck!

 

[Goldeagle]

Cool! Green Bay just gave us another game of breathing room from them. The Jets got a win today too. All of the previously 2-10 teams are cooperating except for San Francisco.

Now if the 49ers can find it in their heart to win one more game before we play them I'll be a happy man.

Yeah we have to face those pesky 49ers! Wonder what that game will look like?

Each team just downing the ball?

 

[run-david-run]

Reggie Bush is seen as the enemy for two reasons.
1) He is seen as being the one to replace a fan favorite like Dominack Davis. (Although I don't see why we couldn't have both on the team)
2) He is playing for the enemy in some eyes, and by enemy I mean USC who is playing against Texas in the Rose Bowl.

If we do get Bush, which I hope we do, I think a lot of the anti-Bush people will convert to pro-Bush people when they see how he produces. I also think that a lot of anti-Bush people might convert when they see how dominating he is against Texas.

Definately. I think that we have proven our O-Line needs tons of help, but if we do draft Reggie, I am definately going to support him. Its really a matter of which option will help us most, not which option will help us

 

[Hervoyel]

Yeah we have to face those pesky 49ers! Wonder what that game will look like?

Each team just downing the ball?

Nope. Each team will snap the ball and immediatly run back to it's own endzone to await the safety.

 

[Goldeagle]

Nope. Each team will snap the ball and immediatly run back to it's own endzone to await the safety.

LOL

 

[DRAMA]

I'm sorry but I'm not buying the too small argument. Warrick Dunn is 180 pounds. Tiki Barber is 200. Tatum Bell is 212. Reggie Bush at the beginning of the season was listed at 200 pounds. I have seen recently that he is 205. He entered USC at 185. That means that he has gained 20 pounds and not only has he not lost a step, but he has gotten better. This is all before he has entered the NFL and been subject to an NFL diet and weight rooms. He will add probably 10 or 15 pounds of muscle once he does so.

Perfectly said. If Brick can put on weight with an NFL strength team, I would bet that system will work for Bush as well. And as for running between the tackles, I'd rather him do what DD does right now and simply cut back. The notion that a back has to be a runner between the tackles is completely overrated and has become a fantasy-type urban legend litmus test. Larry Johnson, Priest, LT all run through the Tackles....they just cut back better than everyone else.

 

[run-david-run]

Lets for one minute jump into this dream that Bush will automatically score 2-3 touchdowns per game. Heck if we draft a good lineman, tight end and another widereceiver (Andre, Dominick, and Carr to tightends) could score just as much. I think Reggie is just to small and might end up being another bust on the runningbacks list.

The one thing I have figured out about football is to never count anyone out because they were "too small". LT was told he was too small.

PS: People are also saying D'Brick is too small (weight wise), hopefully we will draft him and he will prove critics wrong

 

[tulexan]

but it wouldn't bother me either me either if we took a talent like DeAngelo Williams

see this would make me mad. the only reason why i like Bush is because of his versatility.

By the way the Niners-Texans game will be a 0-0 tie.

 

[DRAMA]

Nope. Each team will snap the ball and immediatly run back to it's own endzone to await the safety.

I don't know what sadder - that I laughed out loud sitting alone or that I could picture that scenario actually happening!!

 

[run-david-run]

Perfectly said. If Brick can put on weight with an NFL strength team, I would bet that system will work for Bush as well. And as for running between the tackles, I'd rather him do what DD does right now and simply cut back. The notion that a back has to be a runner between the tackles is completely overrated and has become a fantasy-type urban legend litmus test. Larry Johnson, Priest, LT all run through the Tackles....they just cut back better than everyone else.

I dont think that Bush could do what DD does now, break tackles and move the pile. A great example was when Haynsworth had him wrapped up in the backfield but he broke away for 4 yds.

 

[Goldeagle]

I look at way to many RBs who were drafted first and did nothing. I also look at Cadillac Williams and how he got injured and tired.

Look at Detroit, kept drafting "playmakers" yet they dont have a line.

It all starts with the O-line and with DD and Wells backing him up we DONT need help at the Running Back Position. We do need BIG TIME help (as we all have known for 4 years) at the O-line position.

I cant say Bush wont be great, I dont know. I just dont think we need him.

 

[tulexan]

Reggie Bush actually does run between the tackles. One of his best runs of the year (Against Notre Dame where he hurdled a defender) started where he was running between the tackles and then changed direction 90 degrees and burst through the hole and over a defender. He also will start to run between the tackles and then bounce the run to the outside with a cut back.

 

[run-david-run]

After 4 years of screamming at the TV about the crappy pass blocking, you would think its about time everyone agrees we should devote the draft to the O-line (like the 'Girls did last year to the D)

 

[run-david-run]

Reggie Bush actually does run between the tackles. One of his best runs of the year (Against Notre Dame where he hurdled a defender) started where he was running between the tackles and then changed direction 90 degrees and burst through the hole and over a defender. He also will start to run between the tackles and then bounce the run to the outside with a cut back.

Most of his successfull inside runs are some forms of cutback because he has an extramly dominant O-line, like VY at Texas. Dont expect too much of that here. I remember watching the UCLA game and thinking "damn, thats a huge hole!" when USC ran the ball.

I have NEVER said that when I have watched the Texans games

 

[stevo3883]

shut up you're all WRONG WRONG WRONG Reggie Bush is the next Gale Sayers except 100 times better!!


Dbrickashaw has the frame of a 12 year old girl!

Reggie is built like a lumberjack!!




hehe- btw im a pro reggie

 

[tulexan]

I saw some big holes that Dominack ran through today

 

[run-david-run]

how long did sayers last in the NFL?

Exactly

 

[DRAMA]

After 4 years of screamming at the TV about the crappy pass blocking, you would think its about time everyone agrees we should devote the draft to the O-line (like the 'Girls did last year to the D)

I COMPLETELY agree...I just don't think there is 1 tackle in this draft that is Gallery/ Gross type of Tackle. Trades, Free Agency, rounds 2,3,4,5,6,7 also have to be included in OL help alternatives. No Lineman in this draft is even thought of as a Pace, Ogden, or Walter Jones. There's no OL that's even Robert Gallery. My personal preference is not an average OL but someone who a great deal of people think may develop into a pure, schemed for type of weapon. Average OL will be all over FA. Last year, we could've gotten 3-4 REAL good lineman - but for some reason, we passed on them.

 

[run-david-run]

I saw some big holes that Dominack ran through today

Most of his big gains were just good decisons on which hole. On the 44 yarder the linbacker overpursued and made a great cut, it wasnt as much the blocking as it was the running from DD.

 

[run-david-run]

I COMPLETELY agree...I just don't think there is 1 tackle in this draft that is Gallery/ Gross type of Tackle. Trades, Free Agency, rounds 2,3,4,5,6,7 also have to be included in OL help alternatives. No Lineman in this draft is even thought of as a Pace, Ogden, or Walter Jones. There's no OL that's even Robert Gallery. My personal preference is not an average OL but someone who a great deal of people think may develop into a pure, schemed for type of weapon. Average OL will be all over FA. Last year, we could've gotten 3-4 REAL good lineman - but for some reason, we passed on them.

I think your missing a round on your draft there...

What linemen are you talking about last year?

 

[DRAMA]

Most of his successfull inside runs are some forms of cutback because he has an extramly dominant O-line, like VY at Texas. Dont expect too much of that here. I remember watching the UCLA game and thinking "damn, thats a huge hole!" when USC ran the ball.

I have NEVER said that when I have watched the Texans games

The question is then why does no one consider Lendale White anything other than a possibly above average future NFL back?

 

[tulexan]

Most of his big gains were just good decisons on which hole. On the 44 yarder the linbacker overpursued and made a great cut, it wasnt as much the blocking as it was the running from DD.

So you are saying that Reggie Bush, who has the some of the best moves in the NCAA and is one of the best instinctual runners to come out in a long time couldn't choose which hole to hit and make people over pursue?