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C J Beathard could very well be the QB the Texans will draft.
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And that would be Lance's assessment (I don't even know how many games he wactched), which I had seen and disagreed.
You can't base anything on one single scout's assessment.
Lance thought the Texans have at least a chair at the table with Osweiler; I didn't.
Lance though J J Watt was not a legitimate defensive MVP candidate in late Nov 2014, but Watt went on to win his third award.
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/...-hoyer-if-he-were-an-option-without-question/
I don't know why he compares Savage with Beathard.
He seemed to like Savage better than Beathard; he placed Savage in the second round (along with Mettenberg.)
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/705723-dynasty-qb-tom-savage-texans/
So here, he contradicts himself.
At the end of the day, Lance is just a guy that loves football, like we do.
No one was trying to entirely base anything on anything. It was just a contrasting response to what Corrosion said. And one I happen to agree with, but that's really kinda neither here nor there.
IMO, Beathard is a solid prospect.
He did not have the line and the weapons that Peterman enjoyed (except for the RBs - which was why Ferentz chose to run more.)
If you tally all the throws from both of them, you will see that Beathard had less time before he had to throw the ball one way or another, whether he had an open receiver or not.
Pitts have guys that could be drafted or attend an NFL training camp this year and the next year.
Aside from the RBs ( and the guys that were injured last year), Iowa won't .
And the defenses the two of them faced were quite different, too .
Not a problem.
We're all doing homeworks.
Corrosion wasn't much onto Beathard until now... cause as I had said, it's a process.
Who's Dad just happens to be an Offensive Line Coach in the NFL!
I'm not saying I agree with everything he says but he does have a little more of a leg up on the rest of us because of what his Dad probably taught him about what scouts and players look for and how to evaluate a player. Just that alone should give him some kind of advantage not to mention all the scouts and coaches he may have come in contact with from his Dad being in the NFL. Like I said, I don't agree with all his evaluations and opinions on the different players but he does carry a little more weight than being "just a guy that loves football." JMO.
Not to mention he actually gets paid for his opinions...
Is Josh Innes employed by NFL.com? Are you?
you can change but I can't? We were talking Lance Z not Innes
It means NFL.Com thinks his opinion is worth something...
Don't know why the hell you're trying to have an argument about my simple statement but I guess that's what you do
A HOF ex player is not worth paying for his input? A HOF player knows nothing? OK, everyone here knows more than anyone that ever played in the NFL.
Have a nice day
Go back up thread.
Not only that, when Lance was on the board, I had agreed with him on the vast majority of his convo regarding the O-line. The few things I traded talk with him on the matter (as in difference of opinion ) were changes and adaptation from year-to-year from different coaches.
For example, I had shown him a video in which Alex Gibbs said he always look to change things up every year to get a leg up on the opponent's .
What they saw the O-line did last year isn't going to be the same this year, or next year.
Things like that.
A specific example was when we discussed about a certain play; Lance thought that Newton needs to move his feet a certain way, but I countered with the video that it looks like Gibbs wanted them to do it differently this year.
I don't question his knowledge of how things were; I only remind him that things can change.
So Lance Z had a 6-7th round grade on Beathard.
Who's closer in the assessment?
I guess I am.
I guess we'll see if the kid ever gets to play.
So Lance Z had a 6-7th round grade on Beathard.
Who's closer in the assessment?
I guess I am.
You were closer in assessment to the San Francisco 49ers. Mayock claimed that more teams had him in the range of 5-6 rounder than than late 3rd. The team that thought higher than most of the league executed the pick.
You're right.
But hey, they traded up a few spots to take him at 104.
The teams in between are the Steelers, Seahawks, Buccs, and Packers.
At least one of them seems to be in play; probably the Steelers.
Seriously though, I don't think any team would show their intention and leak it to the media; if anything, it's more likely a smoke screen.
Occasionally, an inside source would leak (with certain conditions), I'm not sure you can trust anything in the media fully in this regard.
But 6-7th round grade is a total different animal than the 3rd round.
You're likely to take one with a long shot, or to be the back up with the late round.
In the third; that guy is seen to have potential to become a starting QB.
You forgot the kitten smilie or something.
Doesn't it remind you of O'Brien, Fitz, and Savage?
By the 9ers..
With Hoyer and Barkley, I think his chance is pretty good down the road.I guess we'll see if the kid ever gets to play.
Hoyer isn't terrible though.
He might be a journeyman, but definitely not terrible.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Shanahan sees him as very similar to Hoyer and wants to develop him as a bridge guy in case they strike out on Cousins next year.