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Buchanon and Babin Benched!

Ha, I remember after the Babin trade, someone asked Casserly why he traded away so many picks to get hime. His response was something along the lines of ''well we felt like we already had alot of guys on our roster who were as good as any mid round picks''. Of course I'm kinda paraphrasing, maybe someone else remembers the quote. Anyways it was the craziest thing I ever heard. Every team has players as good what they'll get in the draft. That doesn't mean give all you picks away. Here's a better idea, let's just cancel the whole draft save for round 1.
 
Please keep in mind that Faggins got torched by Gabriel of the Raiders in pre-season. A decent nickelback does not a starting cornerback make. There's a reason he's a nickel, and basically not even that on most other teams.
 
I'm not surprised at all by these moves. I don't think Faggins is necessarily an upgrade over Buchanon but something needs to be done to get his attention. As for Babin, I've never liked his play and I still don't understand why they drafted him. I think Charlie Anderson or Shantee Orr are much better options at that spot.
 
RTP2110 said:
Ha, I remember after the Babin trade, someone asked Casserly why he traded away so many picks to get hime. His response was something along the lines of ''well we felt like we already had alot of guys on our roster who were as good as any mid round picks''. Of course I'm kinda paraphrasing, maybe someone else remembers the quote. Anyways it was the craziest thing I ever heard. Every team has players as good what they'll get in the draft. That doesn't mean give all you picks away. Here's a better idea, let's just cancel the whole draft save for round 1.
And I havent heard anyone mentioning our lst 1st round pick who I still havent seen play. 1st rounders are always suppose to be starters...
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
1st rounders are always suppose to be starters...
Someone please forward this to all 32 NFL teams please. They must have missed the memo.

If you watch the games you'll see a big guy with the #75 on his jersey while we're playing defense. He's played in both games so far but hasn't started (or admittedly made much of an impact).
 
Exascor said:
If you watch the games you'll see a big guy with the #75 on his jersey while we're playing defense. He's played in both games so far but hasn't started (or admittedly made much of an impact).

that's why I have missed him. A 1st round pick and not even a starter, but he was "our" guy that we had to have. Fed up with Capers... Getting old quick...
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I like the moves....but why is this happening right now?

Why didn't this happen during training camp, or after game 1?

Orr has been solid every time when he's in the game. I think it was the Atlanta game last year when he made a few awesome plays although he was limited in playing time.

And Buchanon should have also been benched after game 1.

Again, it's just more confusing than ever. At what point did Capers just decide to pull the switch? To me, if he makes these two player moves, he knows he should have made them weeks ago or even in training camp.

Is CAPERS really pulling these moves or is it someone above him TELLING him to do this and he gets to be the face? If Capers is doing this, and this is his doings, including the Palmer firing, then he sure waited a heck of a long time to make what he is now trying to say is a logical series of decisions he needed to make.

I still say something's fishy in H-Town, and it ain't the oysters.

If Capers really made all these moves on his own, then on one hand he gets a high-five from me. But the other hand I stick behind my back because he should have made some drastic moves during the preseason. The bad play of Babin and Buchanon didn't just start last week. Any sane person knows that.

BUt, I guess if you're going to fire the OC, you might as well use the momentum and do some more shaking up to show the team that it's not just coaches who are on the bubble.

Go figure.

While he's at it, Capers can admit he should have kept Swinton for kick returns AND punt returns. At least go back and get JJ Moses (if he'd even agree to play for us!). Morency is a joke at KR.
Man, all I ever see you do on this board is b itch. Why don't you just wait and see what happens instead of complaining because it wasn't done sooner. Ok, maybe it should have been done sooner, but what matters is that it's being done now and we still have 14 games left. Let's just wait and see if it lights a fire under everybody's *****. I have a feeling it will.
 
I must say im glad to see some movement in this Texans franchise. I like whats going down. This is the most DRAMA the Texans have ever had...and I think it shows that there is some kind of urgency to start winning.

Do I think changes should of been made earlier? YES.

Do I think these are long term solutions? NO.

Do I think this is a step in the right direction? MAYBE.

The player demotions is gonna hit the players hard. They all need to know that there jobs arent safe. It will make them play that much harder.

And lets see what Pendry does before we judge.
 
TexansRoll said:
After he read this board

hmmm...i wonder if they really do read this board.

I must say one thing about the organization. Im glad they let fans express and totally let their voices be heard on a message board hosted on their site. Im glad that they don't censor such a thing. We are lucky to be able to have this official board filled with all our thoughts - negative or positive.
 
I "gripe" about three things, and three things only TMAC:

1. Carr not owning up to his errors and not taking HIS offense on his shoulders. Forget our o line and its woes. He's got to overcome that TODAY and just find ways to move on without them. Too many people are getting caught up in how poor our o line is, and they bail out Carr in the process.

2. Stupid personnel moves. You CANNOT tell me I don't have a legitimate gripe about the inept personnel decisions such as Buchanon, cutting Swinton, cutting Sloan Thomas, etc. Anybody with an eye for football (and not for politics) could see that certain people on this team are WORTHY of not only making the team but also of starting, but they don't get the chance because of pure politics. Which leads me to my next "gripe" that you feel I am in unjust of having...

3. Capers. I just refuse to get all happy and giddy about Palmer being fired when both Palmer AND Capers should have been canned. Had I seen management say "You know what, both of 'em need to go...," you would see one happy Texans fan. My gripe list would be cut down to only 1 (Carr) because getting rid of Capers is the last step needed for our recovery to begin. The guy is DONE. No tinkering by Capers will make a lasting impression or change our teama round. Capers IS the problem.

But I'm some big loser because I don't get the faith and get the fire when they keep Capers (when he should be gone). So, politics is still alive and well.

You guys are so desperate for a STINKIN WIN that you will sell our team's future for it. As long as SOMETHING works and we get a win, it's OK by you. You get to feel good for a week...and then we get blown out the next week. The whole thing just repeats itself in some sort of sick cycle and all the while there are so many fans here who honestly only care about winning a game here and there and NOT caring about the long term future of this team.

I have seen veteran members of this board who in years past would defend this team to the hilt during a time like this, and now they are tired of this mess as much (or more) than I am.

So attack me personally if you want. I guess you're part of the group that thinks a few tinker moves will get us back on the right track. It might do the trick for a few games, but we'll always be right back here in pity party land wondering why-oh-why things went so horribly wrong when we had just began to win games again. And as long as a lot of the current coaches (Capers at the head of that list) remain and receive get-out-of-jail-free cards while they pin the blame on other people, I just don't see much to cheer about because the players cannot overcome that sort of atmosphere.

I can gripe if I want to. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you so much. I don't care what you think of me or what you think about what I post. You're wasting your time if you think you're so important that I need to obey you and only write silver lining pie-in-the-sky posts that make me into some super-fan homer and some cheer leader for a team that honestly is not worthy being praised right now.

I'll say it and say it and say it: Capers getting canned will shut me up. Until that happens, nothing good on the field will last for long. And you all just need to brace yourselves for the reality that Capers making some bold moves is NOT the answer for any long term success. Which gets me back to my point that I made in my earlier post:

If these moves are so great, why didn't he make them weeks ago since even the casual Texans fan noticed that Buchanon is not the answer, the offensive plans and schemes are horrible, and Babin is only efefctive against the run and not a good pass rusher, etc., etc., etc.? All Capers' bold moves do to me is make me mad because he waited until the wheels fell off to fire Palmer, and to make player moves when he KNOWS he should have made them in camp or in preseason. So he didn't get some sort of out-of-the-blue lightning bolt revelation after this past game. He has known about this for a long time, and he's getting patted on the back for making these moves now when he should have made them before the season started. Faggins and Orr might have made a huuuuuuge difference in team attitude and performance in the first two games but we'll never know.

It's a short season (16 games) not 82 or 162. 16 games. Losing yor first two games just puts you in the worst position possible. Winning two-in-a-row only gets you back to .500 and you've got 12 games left. Tick tock, Tick tock. In the NFL, you can't come out of the gate slow and expect to make up ground easily. Just answer me this: Do you think Capers can turn this team around, or is he the problem? You know my answer. What's your answer to this question, TMAC?
 
you what...i can't say that these are the right moves but i am gonna say they're better than doing nothing...maybe giving orr and faggins a week to start will lite a fire under babin and buchanan's butts...did i like the babin and buchanan trades...no...i was ok with the buchanan one till the season started but not anymore...fangio needs to go as well and we need to promote hoke as d. coordinator in my opinion...i think the reason why orr got the start over anderson is because of his motor...reminds me of peek...bottom line we're gonna continue to see changes throughout the season and it is an interesting time to be a texan fan...not good but interesting...interesting to see which players are worth keeping and which we should just let go
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
While he's at it, Capers can admit he should have kept Swinton for kick returns AND punt returns. At least go back and get JJ Moses (if he'd even agree to play for us!). Morency is a joke at KR.

We dont need JJ...IMO, Morency is only K/R because of Mathis' injury..I would like to see this kid Donovan Morgan come up from the practice squad and return punts/kicks rather than trying to get JJ. Hopefully when Mathis comes back, we will see Morency backing up DD a lil more and not returning kicks.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I "gripe" about three things, and three things only TMAC:

1. Carr not owning up to his errors and not taking HIS offense on his shoulders. Forget our o line and its woes. He's got to overcome that TODAY and just find ways to move on without them. Too many people are getting caught up in how poor our o line is, and they bail out Carr in the process.

2. Stupid personnel moves. You CANNOT tell me I don't have a legitimate gripe about the inept personnel decisions such as Buchanon, cutting Swinton, cutting Sloan Thomas, etc. Anybody with an eye for football (and not for politics) could see that certain people on this team are WORTHY of not only making the team but also of starting, but they don't get the chance because of pure politics. Which leads me to my next "gripe" that you feel I am in unjust of having...

3. Capers. I just refuse to get all happy and giddy about Palmer being fired when both Palmer AND Capers should have been canned. Had I seen management say "You know what, both of 'em need to go...," you would see one happy Texans fan. My gripe list would be cut down to only 1 (Carr) because getting rid of Capers is the last step needed for our recovery to begin. The guy is DONE. No tinkering by Capers will make a lasting impression or change our teama round. Capers IS the problem.

But I'm some big loser because I don't get the faith and get the fire when they keep Capers (when he should be gone). So, politics is still alive and well.

You guys are so desperate for a STINKIN WIN that you will sell our team's future for it. As long as SOMETHING works and we get a win, it's OK by you. You get to feel good for a week...and then we get blown out the next week. The whole thing just repeats itself in some sort of sick cycle and all the while there are so many fans here who honestly only care about winning a game here and there and NOT caring about the long term future of this team.

I have seen veteran members of this board who in years past would defend this team to the hilt during a time like this, and now they are tired of this mess as much (or more) than I am.

So attack me personally if you want. I guess you're part of the group that thinks a few tinker moves will get us back on the right track. It might do the trick for a few games, but we'll always be right back here in pity party land wondering why-oh-why things went so horribly wrong when we had just began to win games again. And as long as a lot of the current coaches (Capers at the head of that list) remain and receive get-out-of-jail-free cards while they pin the blame on other people, I just don't see much to cheer about because the players cannot overcome that sort of atmosphere.

I can gripe if I want to. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you so much. I don't care what you think of me or what you think about what I post. You're wasting your time if you think you're so important that I need to obey you and only write silver lining pie-in-the-sky posts that make me into some super-fan homer and some cheer leader for a team that honestly is not worthy being praised right now.

I'll say it and say it and say it: Capers getting canned will shut me up. Until that happens, nothing good on the field will last for long. And you all just need to brace yourselves for the reality that Capers making some bold moves is NOT the answer for any long term success. Which gets me back to my point that I made in my earlier post:

If these moves are so great, why didn't he make them weeks ago since even the casual Texans fan noticed that Buchanon is not the answer, the offensive plans and schemes are horrible, and Babin is only efefctive against the run and not a good pass rusher, etc., etc., etc.? All Capers' bold moves do to me is make me mad because he waited until the wheels fell off to fire Palmer, and to make player moves when he KNOWS he should have made them in camp or in preseason. So he didn't get some sort of out-of-the-blue lightning bolt revelation after this past game. He has known about this for a long time, and he's getting patted on the back for making these moves now when he should have made them before the season started. Faggins and Orr might have made a huuuuuuge difference in team attitude and performance in the first two games but we'll never know.

It's a short season (16 games) not 82 or 162. 16 games. Losing yor first two games just puts you in the worst position possible. Winning two-in-a-row only gets you back to .500 and you've got 12 games left. Tick tock, Tick tock. In the NFL, you can't come out of the gate slow and expect to make up ground easily. Just answer me this: Do you think Capers can turn this team around, or is he the problem? You know my answer. What's your answer to this question, TMAC?

He's right, nobody say anything positive about the Texans anymore. Everything that was good has died and Capers is the anti-christ.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I "gripe" about three things, and three things only TMAC:

1. Carr not owning up to his errors and not taking HIS offense on his shoulders. Forget our o line and its woes. He's got to overcome that TODAY and just find ways to move on without them. Too many people are getting caught up in how poor our o line is, and they bail out Carr in the process.

2. Stupid personnel moves. You CANNOT tell me I don't have a legitimate gripe about the inept personnel decisions such as Buchanon, cutting Swinton, cutting Sloan Thomas, etc. Anybody with an eye for football (and not for politics) could see that certain people on this team are WORTHY of not only making the team but also of starting, but they don't get the chance because of pure politics. Which leads me to my next "gripe" that you feel I am in unjust of having...

3. Capers. I just refuse to get all happy and giddy about Palmer being fired when both Palmer AND Capers should have been canned. Had I seen management say "You know what, both of 'em need to go...," you would see one happy Texans fan. My gripe list would be cut down to only 1 (Carr) because getting rid of Capers is the last step needed for our recovery to begin. The guy is DONE. No tinkering by Capers will make a lasting impression or change our teama round. Capers IS the problem.

But I'm some big loser because I don't get the faith and get the fire when they keep Capers (when he should be gone). So, politics is still alive and well.

You guys are so desperate for a STINKIN WIN that you will sell our team's future for it. As long as SOMETHING works and we get a win, it's OK by you. You get to feel good for a week...and then we get blown out the next week. The whole thing just repeats itself in some sort of sick cycle and all the while there are so many fans here who honestly only care about winning a game here and there and NOT caring about the long term future of this team.

I have seen veteran members of this board who in years past would defend this team to the hilt during a time like this, and now they are tired of this mess as much (or more) than I am.

So attack me personally if you want. I guess you're part of the group that thinks a few tinker moves will get us back on the right track. It might do the trick for a few games, but we'll always be right back here in pity party land wondering why-oh-why things went so horribly wrong when we had just began to win games again. And as long as a lot of the current coaches (Capers at the head of that list) remain and receive get-out-of-jail-free cards while they pin the blame on other people, I just don't see much to cheer about because the players cannot overcome that sort of atmosphere.

I can gripe if I want to. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you so much. I don't care what you think of me or what you think about what I post. You're wasting your time if you think you're so important that I need to obey you and only write silver lining pie-in-the-sky posts that make me into some super-fan homer and some cheer leader for a team that honestly is not worthy being praised right now.

I'll say it and say it and say it: Capers getting canned will shut me up. Until that happens, nothing good on the field will last for long. And you all just need to brace yourselves for the reality that Capers making some bold moves is NOT the answer for any long term success. Which gets me back to my point that I made in my earlier post:

If these moves are so great, why didn't he make them weeks ago since even the casual Texans fan noticed that Buchanon is not the answer, the offensive plans and schemes are horrible, and Babin is only efefctive against the run and not a good pass rusher, etc., etc., etc.? All Capers' bold moves do to me is make me mad because he waited until the wheels fell off to fire Palmer, and to make player moves when he KNOWS he should have made them in camp or in preseason. So he didn't get some sort of out-of-the-blue lightning bolt revelation after this past game. He has known about this for a long time, and he's getting patted on the back for making these moves now when he should have made them before the season started. Faggins and Orr might have made a huuuuuuge difference in team attitude and performance in the first two games but we'll never know.

It's a short season (16 games) not 82 or 162. 16 games. Losing yor first two games just puts you in the worst position possible. Winning two-in-a-row only gets you back to .500 and you've got 12 games left. Tick tock, Tick tock. In the NFL, you can't come out of the gate slow and expect to make up ground easily. Just answer me this: Do you think Capers can turn this team around, or is he the problem? You know my answer. What's your answer to this question, TMAC?
Calm down a bit. All i'm saying is that there is no reason to get on this board and complain over and over again about things that you can't change. I'm not saying that these few small moves are going to save our season, i'm just saying that i'm glad they are finally doing something. Yeah, we've made some stupid personnel moves, but what's the use of continuously complaining about them? We just have to nut up and do what we can with what we have. I'm sure that even when they fire Capers (and they will) I'll be able to come to this board and read your posts about how they should have done it sooner and they should have hired somebody else, blah freakin blah. It's simple, the FO has made bad decisions, there's nothing we can do about. Posting the same friggin' complaints over and over again certainly isn't going to fix anything. However, the firing of the OC and benching of 2 starters on defense should definately get things moving in the right direction.
 
My main point is that nothing short of firing Capers, as well as possibly a few more coaching changes, will do anything for this team's long-term success.

I can't rah-rah sis-boom-bah until Capers is out of here.

I almost got happy about the player changes, but I knew in my heart that the real road to recovery lies in firing Capers. Only then will I be able to fully support and cheer this team like I used to. To me, and this is just me, getting excited over ANY move made by Capers is sort of like pretending that Capers has no involvement in this situation. He IS the problem.

Just hoping that he goes into retirement soon. I don't want to root against a player or a coach, but I sure don't want him to buy some magic beans and sprout a fluke win here and there and thus buy himself more time than he should get. Thanks for the expansion team memories, Dom. But it's time to part ways. A new chapter is about to be written by this team.

Rant done.

:texflag:

:texans:
 
What I don't get is the Buchanon benching. I won't defend his play at all, but if they went to all the trouble to acquire him and trade away draft picks only to give him a leash of two games, why bother? It feels like they were apprehensive that he'd play poorly and when it materialized, they benched him. So again, why bother? Let some othe rteam get burned by the trade. At least Babin has had 18 regular season games + preseason to prove he's a bust. P-Buch has had two. You have to admit, that's a pretty small sample size for any NFL player, not to mention one that you've given up quite a bit for. If they were factoring in his Raider games as part of his test, then they should never have acquired him.

:wacko:
 
Did anyone catch the Phillip Buchanon interview about him getting benched to a backup role? To me, he acted like it wasn't a big deal to him, in fact he acted a little cocky/humored by it. I sure do wish we still had Aaron Glenn, a player who really did care about his performance.
 
Boxscore said:
Did anyone catch the Phillip Buchanon interview about him getting benched to a backup role? To me, he acted like it wasn't a big deal to him, in fact he acted a little cocky/humored by it. I sure do wish we still had Aaron Glenn, a player who really did care about his performance.

The not big deal thing does not bother me as much as does not seem to process that the proper move in that situation was to stop the player from getting in the endzone versus tryiing to strip Parker of the ball at the 3 yardline. He wants to make the big play but can't grasp that make the solid one is often a bigger deal than spectacular one.
 
WWJD said:
Faggins isn't much of an upgrade to me.
atleast he doesn't let the running back run right past him for the touchdown. he might as well have offered him a piggy- :brickwall back ride.
 
Boxscore said:
Did anyone catch the Phillip Buchanon interview about him getting benched to a backup role? To me, he acted like it wasn't a big deal to him, in fact he acted a little cocky/humored by it. I sure do wish we still had Aaron Glenn, a player who really did care about his performance.

Babin didn't seem upset either. I would like to have seen a little fire in his actions and at least act like it bothered him.
 
SESupergenius said:
I fear that Capers is losing his players.

I said pretty much the same thing in the Palmer fired thread yesterday. I think alot of the players have lost confidence in the the staff in general. Honestly for a defensive Coach - Mr. Capers has done little to build a quality defense much less a defense that dominates which was his job to do.

IMO Capers, Fangio and Casserley have reached the end of the rope too. These 3 are the responsible parties in all the decision making for the defense - a defense thats placed consistently in the bottom qtr/half of the nfl since they have been here with only 1 standout draft pick in 4 years thats made any impact and this years team has shown to be making no ground on being a better defense than the last 3 years. "Dont rush, we got plenty of time" is the phrase that comes to mind when I think of the Texans D.

Call a spade a spade - The offense stinks for sure - but the defense is what keeps us in the game and was supposed to be our stronger squad, yet the decision makers got rid of a pro-bowl CB, both leaders in tackling for the team and traded mutliple draft picks for sub-par talent that they have now demoted as overvalued and non-producing talent. Honestly which has failed more to produce - The Offense or the Defense from the supposed Defenseive guru coach Capers?
 
I know this is a motivation tool for PBuc and Babin, but I am so pleased that Shantee Orr is starting. He's been a favorite of mine since the injury-plagued 2003 season. He was the first LB around here to show any passion or fire.
 
Well I say we all just wait until after this next game. It's probably the most crucial game for Capers/Casserly. We either turn it around here or panic will really be setting in. Let's see the changes that have come to the offense, see if we can move the ball, see if our defense has a spark lit under them, and see if Pendry can make a difference.
 
First off Babin & Buchanon were not the ones that gave up the draft picks for themselves. But every story starts off on that issue (people get over it).Buchanon played horrible in both of the games it should have showen up in film when he was at Oakland, that he was that bad.(Problem management) Babins play against buff was not that bad no pass rush but play the run o k, against Pitt it as horrible but If the management thinks this will help the offense score points lots of luck. Babin & Buchanon need to get there s... together maybe this will help, But Carr & the receivers all of them including Johnson is in the same boat. Carr needs to throw the ball not hold on to it Receivers need to get open and catch it. D D needs to learn how to block.Big money was spend on alot of people that are not performing.Maybe there should be changes in the offensive side of the ball not just firing the offensive coordinator.
All I know is people that have potential never won anyone a game.(you have to perform on the field)
Also the cemetary is full of people that couldn't be replaced.(All the players should rethink there play)
 
All we really need is.....
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in defense of Jason Babin, I played with him and am personal friends with he and his family in Paw Paw, Mi....but he played Defense END in college for 4 years. Your scouts knew that, and took the risk of trying to convert him to a new position he's never played before, especially dropping back in coverage..etc. Just because he sucks right now, I'm still sticking with him because God knows Jay will work harder than hell now to get that job back. It may be a motivating factor that he's never had before...they gave him the starting job practically at the damn press conference last year!!!! Let's see what happens from here out. I too, want to see improvement from him and the Texans. But to the scouts out there who took that risk, more blame should be on them than on Jay in my opinion.
 
BABINFAN said:
in defense of Jason Babin, I played with him and am personal friends with he and his family in Paw Paw, Mi....but he played Defense END in college for 4 years. Your scouts knew that, and took the risk of trying to convert him to a new position he's never played before ....
The Texan coaches seem to have a knack for doing that way too often with players. :thumbdown
 
BABINFAN said:
in defense of Jason Babin, I played with him and am personal friends with he and his family in Paw Paw, Mi....but he played Defense END in college for 4 years. Your scouts knew that, and took the risk of trying to convert him to a new position he's never played before, especially dropping back in coverage..etc. Just because he sucks right now, I'm still sticking with him because God knows Jay will work harder than hell now to get that job back. It may be a motivating factor that he's never had before...they gave him the starting job practically at the damn press conference last year!!!! Let's see what happens from here out. I too, want to see improvement from him and the Texans. But to the scouts out there who took that risk, more blame should be on them than on Jay in my opinion.


He will improve. He just needs time.
 
BABINFAN said:
in defense of Jason Babin, I played with him and am personal friends with he and his family in Paw Paw, Mi....
You played with him? It says you're 43 years old. What, was it in a flag football game?
 
To me, he's a leaner and a spinner. He'll just extend himself into some sort of leaning position up against an o lineman at the snap of the ball, and then he tries the spin move off of the lean. The result is Babin gets beat up regularly.

I see a light body going up against BIG o linemen, and he's just getting tossed around like a rag doll.

His undersized frame, against those big O linemen, is not any match.

He tries hard, don;t get me wrong. But it's a losing battle in terms of pass rushing.
 
i think babin relies too much on the inside pass rushing lane...if you watch him rush the passer too many times does he tries to go inside the tackle...he needs to develop and outside pass rush technique...after all he is the Outside linebacker and the Outside pass rusher...not sure what exactly he did so early in training camp to merrit the starting job as a rookie but he definetly can do better...i think the scouts screwed up big time along with fangio on thinking he was gonna be the next kevin greene...i think capers and casserly should have known that too...anyone can see he doesn't even have the same mentality as greene...he's not that crazy pyscho pass rusher who headbutts players without a helmet...he's the quiet guy on the field most of the time...needless to say this is one of casserly's numerous mistakes during his time here in houston
 
As much as I dislike watching Babin struggle, I am interested to see Orr get some playing time. Anyone remember who sacked Michael Vick to put the last nail in the coffin when we played the Falcons? That's right, Shantee Orr, this guy has always had a knack at making the most of his opportunities, similar to another fan favorite, Antwan Peek. I want to see Babin work hard to become a starter once again, but I also want to see if Shantee Orr can provide us with a spark with increased play time.

As for Buchanon, he has looked absolutely embarrassing and pathetic. There's no two ways about it, he has sucked. The only impressive thing I've seen him do is make a nice tackle near the sidelines on McGahee in week 1. That's one play I can think of where he looked good. Teams are gunning for him every down and he's making them look smart for doing so. Faggins did well against Marvin Harrison when he got his first start, hopefully he can do better than Buchanon has. It really shouldn't be too difficult to outshine Buchanon's play, just break up atleast one pass and try to remember we're not playing two hand touch....

All in all it's been a miserable start to the season, and I was really psyched as usual before it began. Carr feels pressure even when he has none now, which is rare. There's been numerous plays where he just needs to step up in the pocket, but instead he takes off sideways right into the defenders. The O-line hasn't been playing superb football, but Carr isn't helping them out because he isn't making good use of the protection they DO provide. He has horrible pocket presence, there is absolutely no argument otherwise. If he can't move the ball in the coming weeks, he needs to ride the bench and give a different quarterback a chance. What's there to lose if he doesn't improve? We'll lose 27-0 instead of 27-7?
 
Babin was probably a mistake but it's really too soon to tell. I'm not optimistic and think most comparisons to Kevin Greene are silly but here's two that I think matter.

First of all Kevin Greene didn't have double digit sacks until his fourth season and got none in his first year. Technically speaking Babin is(was?) off to a better start than Greene. What does this mean? Nothing.

Second, we can compare and contrast Babin to Greene all day long but the one thing that jumps out to me is that Kevin Greene cost the Rams a 5 when they drafted him. Jason Babin cost the Texans a 2, 3, and a 4. What does that mean? To me it means that Charlie Casserly got robbed bigtime unless Babin turns into a monster. A "good" OLB can be had much cheaper and obviously a great one can too. Just my opinion.
 
exactly and i think that's why when the trade was made so many of us were like what the f#%@?...none of really understood it...i mean...why pull the trigger on someone like that when speed rushers come out in every draft
 
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