canadiantexan
Waterboy
keyfro said:
Yeah if I did'nt put that trade with Philly up it was going to be a trade with the Rams targeting one of those guy's.
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Buchanan Changes Texans Draft
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Yeah if I did'nt put that trade with Philly up it was going to be a trade with the Rams targeting one of those guy's.
MojoMan
Hall of Fame
Sarge,
I think we need a good DT more than any offensive player. I guess we still have four picks in rounds 4-7.
Even though it is my prediction that we trade up with Arizona to #8 and pick Derrick Johnson, my concern with trading up like that is it wipes out our whole first day in the draft, reducing it to one pick. I would be happy with trading up with Arizona to get Derrick Johnson, as I believe that this is currently the missing link for the Texans, assuming that the Defensive line stays healthy.
However, I remember last year. We traded away everything for Babin. I had planned to spend all day Saturday watching the draft, and then there was nothing to watch, at least as far as the Texans go. It would be greatly dissapointing to have most of the first day become moot for the Texans - AGAIN. I have been looking forward to watching the draft for a long time now, and seeing the Texans first day reduced to one pick would be somewhat of a letdown, at least from a personal entertainment perspective.
I think we need a good DT more than any offensive player. I guess we still have four picks in rounds 4-7.
Even though it is my prediction that we trade up with Arizona to #8 and pick Derrick Johnson, my concern with trading up like that is it wipes out our whole first day in the draft, reducing it to one pick. I would be happy with trading up with Arizona to get Derrick Johnson, as I believe that this is currently the missing link for the Texans, assuming that the Defensive line stays healthy.
However, I remember last year. We traded away everything for Babin. I had planned to spend all day Saturday watching the draft, and then there was nothing to watch, at least as far as the Texans go. It would be greatly dissapointing to have most of the first day become moot for the Texans - AGAIN. I have been looking forward to watching the draft for a long time now, and seeing the Texans first day reduced to one pick would be somewhat of a letdown, at least from a personal entertainment perspective.
canadiantexan
Waterboy
beerlover said:more beerlover time
I'll drink to that!
canadiantexan said:
I agree with youon this completely. There is no way that we stay at 13. Any team between 15 and 24 seems like a good place to trade too even the philly would be a dream trade. I do think that Philly wants Mike Williams... they will have to seriously over pay to get him because Minnesota, Chicago and Philly possibliy even washington would love to have him since gardener is going to be traded. If we get the 31 if baas is there we take him i think. 35 i think we should OLB. Yes u can quote me on this no WR in 1st 2 rounds. I never thought i would say this. This trade does change alot. 78 we go WR. I think the `texans would have a very positive draft. We could also flip flop and take Brown or Gibson then just play peek which now looks like what they are going to do.
canadiantexan
Waterboy
royce1054 said:
Certainly is an interesting turn of events is'nt it?
jacquescas
Veteran
I think unless one of the 3 running backs, 3 top wide outs, or 2 top linebackers we should trade down and aquire more picks. I think those 8 are the ones we will target. If we trade down i see us moving somewhere between the 15 and 24 spot.
cadahnic
Rookie
OK people I have seen alot of thoughts and some of them good some are ridiculous. It seems that with this trade we will trade down if T. Williamson falls to us so that we can pick up the EAgles first and two second rounders for our first and 4th the value would be there. After we make that trade then we take someone like Baas or Brown if he is available. After that our two second rounders we will take the best available LB prospect maybe a Daryl Blackstock or Odell Thurman. The next would be a high profile receiver like Reggie Brown or Matt Jones eventhough I think Jerome Mathis is gonna be a stud in this league just watch the tapes on him at the all-star game he is lightning. I have not seen someone this fast since darrell Green. Then in the third we grab Stanford Routt who is also lightning even though I would rather get him in the fourth and get CAstillo or a big DE to help our pathetic line. After that we all take a break and wait till sunday to see what CAss pulls out his *** as a sleeper.
canadiantexan
Waterboy
It all depends on Williamson falling to us and wether the Eagles are willing to make a deal if they hav'nt made one by then but it could be a very much improved team as of Saturday.
canadiantexan said:
Well what i see is Minnesota will offer its #7 and #18 (i think) picks to Cleveland. Philly will offer 31,35, and a 3rd to make it much more prettier. I think Minnesota will win out on that deal. I heard a link from nflfans.com from the Redskins GM sayin they wont move from #9. I think that either Detriot or Texans will be the team that Philly deals with. Their is also Seattle who will trade Alexander and will be looking at either Benson, or WIlliams. KC might want to move up and get Pac-Man who seems to be sliding. Carolina might offer a trade so we dont offer the pick to STL so STL can take Barron. There is alot of what ifs here. Only time will tell but i think the only thing we do know Johnson & merriman will be gone so that almost makes it a 100% trade down to me.
canadiantexan
Waterboy
royce1054 said:
Agreed next year we trade lower and grab that "last piece of the puzzle"
canadiantexan said:
Lets see what players are on the last year of their contract. Who are the higher paid players on that list. Who could be a cap casuality next year. I dont know that we are already at the last peice i think we are 2-3 years off from the "last Peice" but i like the optimisticness. I do however think with addtion on Buchannon we are a playoff team. I do think we can hang with the Indy's of the world. I think we have a serious chance at the the Division. We have address the defense minus a OLB and d-line depth other than that we need to improve the offense.
Unless someone significant falls to us(excluding Troy Williamson- trust me, just hear me out) we trade down. Reason I say excluding Williamson is because Philly might be willing to overpay for him, if he is the last Wr available out of the top 3. We trade #13 to Philly for #31 and #35. At #31 we take David Baas(will help O-line indefinently) Than at #35 we could take Roddy White. ( extremely fast wr, and good size)
well another thing we could do is trade the pick to the Rams. I am sure the Rams would love to take the chance on Barron instead of Barnes. We would only get a 3rd rounder. prob the #70 pick. Not as good as the Philly deal but this one is a little more realistic. Then we could go White at #19 then we wouldnt pick again til 70 and we could go ILB or OLB then at 78 OL
DRIFTAWAY said:
I actually think with the addition of Buchannon we are a playoff team. Our 2ndary should be one of the best in the league. I think it will depend on our D-lline doing what we know they can and seeing the Texans LB core do what the Texans hope they can. I think our offense will be much improved with another year of experience.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
royce1054 said:
Why would the Rams move up to take Barron instead of hanging tight and getting Brown?
infantrycak said:
Well wouldnt that be an upgrade from Brown dont u think. I am sure they would like to have Barron instead of Brown. Do you think that its the other way around. I would think moving from the #2 OT to the #1 in the draft and move up 6 spots and give one of your 2 #3 would be a good price for them.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
royce1054 said:
Well, except they really play two different positions. Barron has been and is projected to be a LT. Brown is a RT who might be able to play LT. The Rams have Pace on a brand new huge contract at LT. They lost Turley at RT. So the biggest tackle need is RT. Why pay extra to get a LT to come in and play what really is a different position when you can stand pat and probably get the top guy at RT?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
royce1054 said:
But the question goes back to why do it? Maybe Barron can convert to RT (probably delaying his immediate impact) but why give up draft picks to make that move? I mean unless you have a top five pick you can almost always say there is someone better above. Just don't see Barron getting drafted to spend more than a year at RT--and on the Rams, it would virtually be a career.
Well that was one i was thought was on the list because when i heard about the Philly deal i brought it up over here and was trying to see what people thought of it. It has really picked up but i think it is a trade that might not happen to me its kinda wishful thinking, I was thinking maybe KC would want to trade up.. maybe Seattle if a RB fails, Maybe the Bengals have their eye on DE or Davis and want to go after him, the last one i was thinking maybe Vikings want to trade up and make sure they get Thomas Davis.. that could be an interesting deal. I am sure there is atleast 1 or 2 more teams that want to move up and i just havent thought of it yet.
D-ReK said:
Well yeah the chances of that happening bc of Lions having their OT taken last year. I have heard from a cowgirls fan that he believed they would go O-line in the 1st round. I just kind of blew it off and didnt listen to it but those are the only 2 teams that i even heard of an O-line that early.
