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Brady Quinn

also, there's another thread strictly on brady quinn, talking about him, i think its actually titled 'Brady Quinn'. i'll post on it so we don't keep saying the same stuff.
 
I say bring him in. People give him too much crap for being a "pretty boy." He's done well with no protection, has great mobility, and good pocket awareness. Would it be a slap in the face to the fans of Texas after passing on the top 3 prospects in a while?
Sure
But would it finally be admitting theey made a mistake and trying to fix it as soon as possible?
Yes
 
Obsidian said:
Whoever this post is describing sounds like a great prospect. But Brady Quinn sure as hell doesn't fit this description. I don't even think Quinn's agent could get this paragraph out with a straight face. Sure the kids a decent prospect but lets not get carried away. His arm is average at best, his balls float, which is fine when you play the service academies 3 times a year, but in the NFL, not so much. He locks onto his receivers, he holds onto the ball way to long, his pocket presence isn't very good and his decision making is far from an asset. He is mediocre to average in a bunch of categories but he doesn't really stand out in any one. In the right system he could be a Jake Delhomme type. Passable QB who can manage a game but not necessarily win it. But he is far from the second coming you make him out to be.
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Well if what is being said here is the case, he shouldn't go before the 2nd round. That NOT being the case, he has to have some descent qualities about him. People on these boards are just to gun shy after having David Carr lead our offense for the past 5 seasons.

Brady doesn't stand out in any one aspect, but he is the most well rounded QB in the draft which makes him an asset within this draft.

Now before ya'll start flinging flaming piles of poo in my direction, I am not for or against him coming to us at the #8 spot, I put my faith in a much improved front office that they will make the best possible decision for our organization moving forward.
 
wow didnt know id start ww3????lol w/e any way i like him.....here's why
he had a TERRIBLE oline.....guess what guys so do we.....he is like david carr yes....ill admit that....but the differnence is he is david carr whle underpressure.....our dc is not like that at all....he sux while being hurried......i think that is what we need......someone who gets the job done under pressure and is mobile enough to still get outside the pocket and throw.....we need a qb for later not now.....even if we get plummer and nate clements and all the other big names that are going around on this board we still wont win the sb......so why waste 2-3 years and get close to it and thn whoops, jake is gone so lets throw in a new qb who knows nothing and hasnt played yet??????anyone notice that we keep getting OLD GUYS even if good still we arent going anywhere???????just a thought
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
No...that's what you assumed... you are putting words in my mouth. ... unless I say it then it's not neccessarily my opinion. I named one thing I didn't like about Quinn, and you focused on it because you assumed that was the ONLY reason I didn't think he was that good. Your mistake.



Once again you're assuming Cutler is going to be good....personally I don't think all that highly of the guy myself...I love his arm, but other than that I don't neccessarily think he's all that great a QB....Just because you think highly of him, doesn't mean I do. Bad example.



Are you serious ? Are you the rule maker-upper on how to judge a guys demeanor ?

First of all, you contradicted yourself. Unless you know Carr personally how would you know he has a defeatest attitude? right? So now we have to observe a guys demeanor for five years to make an educated guess about that persons Demeanor????...Pardon me....I didn't know there was an official timeline, and I cerainly didn't know you were the official time keeper...please let ME know how long I have to observe someones demeanor before I make an assumption about that persons mindframe when bad things happen....

It's not rocket science....You observe a guy, you formulate an opinion. You nor anyone else is going to tell me I have to wait five years to do so.


You are the one being defensive. You are being defensive about MY views on Quinn. I offered a different view point, and you jumped in defending Quinn and his demeanor.
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You are right. I did assume that you didn't like Brady Quinn based upon demeanor alone. It was wrong of me to do so. I simply assumed that because that was your main argument that it was your main reason for not liking him. I did not mean to put words in your mouth.

I was saying that there is a difference between being defensive and defending your point of view. Being defensive offen means that you ridicule someone else for their opinion rather than state a counter point. If you feel that I have done that to you, again, I apologize, I was simply trying to offer a counter point to your point.

As far as Cutler. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, as well as me. But, my point is, which one of our opinions on Cutler carries more weight (assuming you didn't play more than high-school football, as I did not)? It would be me, because I have seen more of his games, and I know him as a person and have seen him in the class room. I was simply trying to state that the more that you see someone, or the more that you know them, the more firm your opinion about them can be. I believe that is what the original post about Peyton Manning was saying. That if you had watched him in college in one game only (against Florida), you would have thought he gives up. You are always entitled to your own opinion, and I cannot take it away from you, I was simply trying to show you that your opinion might not carry as much weight as say the head coach at Brady's High School, a Scout, or someone who has spent time talking to him. That demeanor is easier to judge the longer that you see someone.


I know that it seems that I was contradicting myself when it came to Carr. However, that was merely because I didn't express myself well enough. I was trying to say that the longer you watch someone or the more you get to know them, the better and stronger an opinion can be formed. Again, ours is weaker of Carr that say Kubiaks, but ours is much stronger of Carr than maybe Plummer (because as Texans fans, we have watched Carr play more than Plummer). Demeanor always takes time and energy to determine, and that was my point. Of course you are allowed to disagree, and I hope that you respect my opinion as much as you want me to respect yours.

As far as their being an official timeline, don't put words into my mouth and assume that I am trying to say something that I am not. Again, demeanor takes time to judge. Only a fool forms a fixed opinion about someone based upon one outing. (again, I am not calling you a fool, because I recognize that we are still only talking about your opinion, I am not making a judgment on whether it is fixed or flexible). That is also not to say that you cannot be thoroughly impressed immediately or disappointed immediately, but the longer someone impresses or disappoints, the more it strengthens the original opinion.

Nonetheless, this feud has gotten out of hand, and I think Brady Quinn will do fine, provided he gets time to sit (as I believe most quartebacks who sit and learn end up doing better in the long run). If you think differently, that's fine too. Either way, if he falls to us at 8, it strengthens our pick's value, so I hope that it happens.
 
if quinn is there you have to draft him b.p.a.
just because carr stinks doesn't mean quinn will. although I understand the sentiment
 
gtexan02 said:
I say bring him in. People give him too much crap for being a "pretty boy." He's done well with no protection, has great mobility, and good pocket awareness. Would it be a slap in the face to the fans of Texas after passing on the top 3 prospects in a while?
Sure
But would it finally be admitting theey made a mistake and trying to fix it as soon as possible?
Yes
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i agree
 
leachmtb said:
As far as Cutler. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, as well as me. But, my point is, which one of our opinions on Cutler carries more weight (assuming you didn't play more than high-school football, as I did not)?
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I actually played D-1 ball in college...But honestly that doesn't even matter...

Neither one of our opinions carry more weight than the other. I think I'm right. You think you're right. All we can do is wait and see.
 
Since Lance Zierlein's been talking about him, I've been warming up to the idea lately. He's the only QB that was in the conversation with VY, Leinart and Cutler last year. If he has a strong showing in his offseason workouts, then he's worth taking.
 
No one on here has anything worth even considering not taking him....everyone that has said no to him says he reminds them of carr......so what carr coiuldve and could still be great we screwed him up......thats not what was asked.......he is an EXCELLENT prospect and WILL BE A HELL OF A QB ...and if he is there at 8 we need to take him....he will be bpa....maybe not the flashiest but the bpa........jmo
 
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