I recently paid for my season tickets, and I am literally sick to my stomach. I want to vomit. Whether or not this deal works out in the end the bottom line is it is a horrible move. If it works out we get lucky, period. If it doesnt, then it will further highlight what this organization is a joke. And we are all paying big bucks for it. For a joke. Im not laughing though. Babin, Buchanan,
.. when will it end? Im done.
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That's too bad, man. I think you're going to miss out on some exciting football. We've got a lot to look forward to, and hey, as Texans fans, we've paid for it by sticking with them through a 2-14 season. Dark days are behind us, bro', and we've got to think positive and look ahead with great anticipation.
Be LOUD, PROUD, & TEXAN!
Be LOUD, PROUD, & TEXAN!
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
Texan1 said:
How do you think it's a joke? Some teams have this guy rated higher than Reggie Bush. And as a season ticket holder, you should have noticed our defense was terrible last season, at some points probably worse than our offense. Do you remember the Kansas City Chiefs game when Larry Johnson ran all over us? Or the Seahawks game when they had two guys run for over 100 yards. Or maybe the Rams game, when we blew a 21 point lead in the 2nd half. Isn't the draft partly about luck anyway? We never know how a guy's going to pan out. Bush has all the potential in the world, as does Williams. But they both could be stars, both could be flops. It's much too early to rush to judgement. And in case you forgot, we had an amazing offseason via free agency. We picked up Kevin Walter, Moulds, Cowart, Flanagan, Putzier and Weaver. We have a new coach who knows something about winning. This pick, whether you (and the rest of the Texan fans) like it or not, should not be the sole judgement on whether you should renew your season tickets or if you're thinking of not supporting the Texans. You can call it the worst move in the history of the franchise, but that's premature. Just wait and see if it all pans out.
Texan1 said:
Drinking the koolaide is the essence of being a hardcore fanatic, man. We just get a new batch of punch every year.
Look, Williams might not have been my first pick. BUT, he is our pick in spite of it all. So we have two choices: quit the team, or accept it and hope for the best.
While I certainly respect your decision to give up on the Texans, I don't agree with it. I'm in this thing for the long haul. My season tickets are something I hope to hand down to my son and grandkid(s) one day. I want to be with the team when they finally win it, and I know I was there from the beginning of it all.
But I'm a crazy fan that way. What can I say. It's not for everyone.
Take care. Hope whatever team you choose works out for you...unless, of course, it's a division rival.
Texans Horror
All Pro
The only issue I had with taking Mario, and the big reason I didn't think we would take him, is that we have really upgraded the front seven on defense with Weaver and Cowhart and shifting to the 4-3. IMO, we needed to take pressure off Carr. That was the biggest issue coming out of last season. Undeniably, having a threat running back would take pressure off the passing game and Carr. That was a big part on the plus side for taking Reggie. So to not utilize that offensive weapon - to stick with an average back in DD - it seems like we have yet definitively take pressure off the QB. I just hope that at the end of the season, we aren't sitting with a losing record and still debating about Carr and whether or not he would be better with ample protection, blocking, etc.
That being said, there is a definite trend in the NFL to have crappy offenses but unbreakable defenses. Maybe that is the direction that Kubes wants to take the team.
That being said, there is a definite trend in the NFL to have crappy offenses but unbreakable defenses. Maybe that is the direction that Kubes wants to take the team.
Sam,
Agreed - there is an element of luck in the draft. The key is to eliminate as much of the ‘luck’ element as possible (particularly when you have the 1ST pick!).
So tell me this…
Would it be more likely to draft a defensive end in the 2nd round who will ultimately equate to Williams - or
Draft a back in the 2nd round that will ultimately equate to Reggie Bush.
It doesn’t make sense to draft Williams.
Agreed - there is an element of luck in the draft. The key is to eliminate as much of the ‘luck’ element as possible (particularly when you have the 1ST pick!).
So tell me this…
Would it be more likely to draft a defensive end in the 2nd round who will ultimately equate to Williams - or
Draft a back in the 2nd round that will ultimately equate to Reggie Bush.
It doesn’t make sense to draft Williams.
Keyser Soze
Noob
Texan1 said:
Against my better judgement, I renewed my tickets too. Kicking myself tonight for that decision.
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
Texan1 said:
I don't see your point. You can always find a 1000 yard rusher. You can draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th round and he can rush for 1500 yards. Reggie Bush may be special, but not even the best running backs are going to run for 1700 or 1800 yards a season. I wanted Reggie Bush, but I believe Williams will help us more over the long term. It's much harder to find a very good DE in the later rounds. Granted, it can be done, but you don't have the success rate with them as you do with running backs.
oso said:
I agree with you. And it is still a huge concern in my mind. I won't think different until they prove it on the field.
Hopefully it's an issue that will have a positive resolution this year. It'll be tough to watch, otherwise.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Most of you that are so critical of this decision haven't seen Mario play football. Frankly, I haven't seen much of him either. I really didn't watch much second tier ACC football last year. However, I have a friend who is a Maryland fan that I respect, and he has been very impressed with Mario since October of 2005.
I don't know if this is a good move or not. However, the fact that it is so unpopular supports the fact that the team believes Mario is the best choice to help turn this team into a winner. The safe, easy, and popular pick is Bush.
Believe me, watching an agressive and talented defensive front abuse QBs will make real football fans forget all about Bush in a hurry.
I don't know if this is a good move or not. However, the fact that it is so unpopular supports the fact that the team believes Mario is the best choice to help turn this team into a winner. The safe, easy, and popular pick is Bush.
Believe me, watching an agressive and talented defensive front abuse QBs will make real football fans forget all about Bush in a hurry.
AtheGreat
Waterboy
Bobo said:
Word. SOme of those runs, expecially those few against Oregon that made teams drool over him, simply wont happen in the NFL. LBs are way faster and DBs are surer (is that a word?) tacklers. All this running from left to right to left, wont happen in the NFL. And also, its going to take more than a new set of legs to get the production he got in college (i.e. a O-Line). Anyway, you just have to trust in the F.O. (thats a scary thought) and hope they have some clue as to what they are trying to piece together here in houston.
customdano
Practice Squad
Come on People I feel your pain but give it a chance. look at Willie Parker not even Drafted 1200 plus yds . Give this team a chance we don't need a Player we need a team. Have you looked at our Roster lately it's changing every day. Check it out Tuesday Morning. Last I saw DD,Wells,& Morency were all capable of 100 yd games and that was before the new line & scheme.I respect all of your opinions go ahead & vent but I hope at the end of the day you will still be Proud to be a Texan fan................I still excited ........Go Texans...................
texansfaninla
Waterboy
"The only issue I had with taking Mario, and the big reason I didn't think we would take him, is that we have really upgraded the front seven on defense with Weaver and Cowhart and shifting to the 4-3. IMO, we needed to take pressure off Carr. That was the biggest issue coming out of last season. Undeniably, having a threat running back would take pressure off the passing game and Carr. That was a big part on the plus side for taking Reggie. So to not utilize that offensive weapon - to stick with an average back in DD - it seems like we have yet definitively take pressure off the QB. I just hope that at the end of the season, we aren't sitting with a losing record and still debating about Carr and whether or not he would be better with ample protection, blocking, etc."
WE WILL BE DOING THAT. This is the Texans' excuse - we need to take pressure off of Carr. WELL WHY PICK A DL INSTEAD OF AN OFFENSIVE WEAPON TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF CARR??? I see 4-12 or 5-11 with another tremendous number of sacks and most of the Mario Kool-Aid drinkers finally seeing the light that this draft was the worst day in Texans franchise history. The guy got sacks in literally 16 of 36 games at NC State - not exactly stellar.
I too am literally sick to my stomach and in utter disbelief.
WE WILL BE DOING THAT. This is the Texans' excuse - we need to take pressure off of Carr. WELL WHY PICK A DL INSTEAD OF AN OFFENSIVE WEAPON TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF CARR??? I see 4-12 or 5-11 with another tremendous number of sacks and most of the Mario Kool-Aid drinkers finally seeing the light that this draft was the worst day in Texans franchise history. The guy got sacks in literally 16 of 36 games at NC State - not exactly stellar.
I too am literally sick to my stomach and in utter disbelief.
dalemurph,
I'm not being critical of Mario. Or AJ or Matt L. or Debrick, etc etc. The issue is the Texans refuse to make good choices. You take the best player on the board at #1. The best player - right now - is Bush. Period.
BTW, the Texans have never made the safe choice (re: Babin, Buchannan, etc). That is the problem with this team.
I'm not being critical of Mario. Or AJ or Matt L. or Debrick, etc etc. The issue is the Texans refuse to make good choices. You take the best player on the board at #1. The best player - right now - is Bush. Period.
BTW, the Texans have never made the safe choice (re: Babin, Buchannan, etc). That is the problem with this team.