Bob McNair and this franchise are at a crossroads

[abbest]

Vince is not as fast as Michael Vick. Vick entered the league running a 4.28 and now runs a low 4.3. Vince runs in a 4.4 range and will slow down once he gets in the league.

And you are quoting Lee Corso? That is like quoting Dick Vitale. Both are cartoon characters who make their living being outrageous and over the top.

But they are Professional cartoon characters who are respected for their opinions. what are your credentials?

 

[OzzO]

Unless there's a major smoke screen, I beleive Bob McN has noted Carr is the QB of the future, they're discussing his contract extension, Kubiak (if he comes here) likes Carr and feels he can improve him and the team, and all the heads are noting Bush will be the "safer" pick for the Texans - whatever safer is.

So, if Young heads to Tennesee (which I would think NO would take him first... but who knows) then all "fickle fans" may don their Titan gear and exit the stage to the East. If the smoke screen clears and we have him - then I'll still be supporting the Texans among the fickle fans that follow the savior of the generation.

 

[AustinJB]

Flavor of the moment? Where have you been the last three years.

Vince Young is as big as Peyton Manning is now -- 6'5", 230 and will get bigger.

As fast as Vick (both run in the 4.4/40 yd) range.

The highest rated quartback in D1 this year.

The first quarterback in NCAA history to pass for 3000yds and run for 1000 yds in HISTORY.

Is a true leader in that every player on the team looks up to him, trusts him, and would never ever want the ball in anyone elses hands to win the game.

HE IS THE GREATEST COLLEGE QUARTERBACK EVER (even Lee Corso agrees). Like I said before, if a coach can't design an offense for him than he is not worthy to be a professional coach.

This would be like passing up on Jordan.

I've never understood how people could be loyal to a player and not a team, BUT, my family had Oilers season tickets for 20 year and have had Texans season tickets since they began and I can easily say: wherever Vince goes, that's my team.

I actually agree with most of your points and am a huge VY fan. But the Rockets actually did pass on Jordan to draft Olajuwon.

 

[AustinJB]

Unless there's a major smoke screen, I beleive Bob McN has noted Carr is the QB of the future, they're discussing his contract extension, Kubiak (if he comes here) likes Carr and feels he can improve him and the team, and all the heads are noting Bush will be the "safer" pick for the Texans - whatever safer is.

So, if Young heads to Tennesee (which I would think NO would take him first... but who knows) then all "fickle fans" may don their Titan gear and exit the stage to the East. If the smoke screen clears and we have him - then I'll still be supporting the Texans among the fickle fans that follow the savior of the generation.

I'll still be a Texans fan too...but a lot less forgiving when VY beats our Texans twice a year in a Titans uniform. But as true Houston football fans know, I guess bad decisions and heartbreak are just a way of life.

 

[Nawzer]

Even though I'm a huge VY fan ever since his days at Madison I think the Texans will pick Reggie Bush. I just have this feeling like they want to give Carr a decent shot at becoming a good NFL QB. I would like to see VY in a Texans uniform but I will be happy with Bush too.

 

[tulexan]

Those Vick times are on and indoor track. His outside times were in the 4.4 range. Even if there is a .1 or .2 difference, he will at LEAST be the second fastest quarterback in the NFL and maybe the biggest:

What do you mean by the biggest? There are several quarterbacks who are bigger than Vince Young. Some who are mobile too.

 

[groutfulone]

What do you mean by the biggest? There are several quarterbacks who are bigger than Vince Young. Some who are mobile too.

None as mobile as VY.
Bigger? I said maybe. Can you think of any bigger? Big Ben is 6'5"/240, Brady is only 6'4"/220, Brad Johnson is 6'5"/215; and no, I'm not comparing VY to Brady.

Just a reminder: Bush is just a utility back, not even close to being one of the greatest college running backs ever. VY is the best college quarterback to ever play.

 

[groutfulone]

I actually agree with most of your points and am a huge VY fan. But the Rockets actually did pass on Jordan to draft Olajuwon.

I remember well. As a life long Rockets fan and huge Hakeem fan ( I crazily think he and Kareem are the best centers to ever play - maybe Shaq if he gets better) I am about to write this, duck, cringe, run and hide: Jordan 6 rings, Olajuwon 2. I would have taken Jordan any day. Sorry, Hakeem, I love you, thanks for the 2 trophies for Houston, but there is no comparison.

 

[pskinny]

VY is the best college quarterback to ever play.

God, It's killing me to be a Texan fan right now. Why do you think Aggies call you guys T-sippers? It's this whole "take Vince Young or we will never forgive you, Bob" arrogance some of you guys have. He is NOT the messiah people. He can't cure disease, or make your grandmom walk again. In fact he wasn't even cosidered a better prospect than Bush or Lienert before the rose bowl.

How about you hire your new coaching staff, let them review hours of film, and decide what is best for this football team, Bob. Unfortunately for UT fans, I don't think you'll like the descision.

 

[dat_boy_yec]

I remember well. As a life long Rockets fan and huge Hakeem fan ( I crazily think he and Kareem are the best centers to ever play - maybe Shaq if he gets better) I am about to write this, duck, cringe, run and hide: Jordan 6 rings, Olajuwon 2. I would have taken Jordan any day. Sorry, Hakeem, I love you, thanks for the 2 trophies for Houston, but there is no comparison.

Traitor, I can't believe the words that you typed! J/K. You can't really base all that on rings. Look at the teams surrounding Jordan when he got the rings, even when he played baseball the Bulls reached the playoffs. That speaks volumes of Jordan how would he have fared without the triangle offense, without Pippen, Kukoc, etc. etc. Hakeem did great things in Houston and imagine if Drexler had been teamed up with the Dream from the get go, or if the talent or coaching would have been different. Jordan's skills overshadowed the rest of the team, but they were a byproduct of the system he was in. Had he been on any other team he would have still been good, but not Jordanesque. I would stay with Hakeem because he was still a great player, and there's no guarantee that if Jordan was here the Rockets would have won 6. What do you mean crazily think Hakeem and Kareem are the best centers. They are the best centers.

 

[groutfulone]

God, It's killing me to be a Texan fan right now. Why do you think Aggies call you guys T-sippers? It's this whole "take Vince Young or we will never forgive you, Bob" arrogance some of you guys have. He is NOT the messiah people. He can't cure disease, or make your grandmom walk again. In fact he wasn't even cosidered a better prospect than Bush or Lienert before the rose bowl.

How about you hire your new coaching staff, let them review hours of film, and decide what is best for this football team, Bob. Unfortunately for UT fans, I don't think you'll like the descision.

Who in the world would even care what an Aggie thinks about a a Longhorn. For the record I went to Tulane. Messiah? Curing disease? Man, you are melodramatic; dude, it's football.

And he was considered a better prospect than Bush and Lienert by some people before the Rose Bowl - people who had actually seen him play enough to know that this guy is a once in a lifetime like Jordan was. When he was a Freshman a lot of people said he couldn't win a national championship. He proved them wrong this year and he will prove the nay sayers wrong again. HE IS A MONSTER PLAYING AMONG BOYS.

 

[groutfulone]

Traitor, I can't believe the words that you typed!

That's why I ducked and ran. It felt slimy saying it but I believe it. And yes I can compare rings because Jordan would have won them with any one. He made people around him better. Truly. That is why many people think he is the greatest basketball player ever. That is why the Texas players on O and D say the same thing about Young. They all say how VY makes them better players. And I am confident he can do the same thing in the NFL.

 

[Nighthawk]

I just have this feeling like they want to give Carr a decent shot at becoming a good NFL QB.

This is the kind of thinking, if it's accurate, that will mire this team in mediocrity forever. They want to "give David a shot"--oh, please.

If they have half a brain between the 4 of them (McNair, Casserly, new head coach, and Reeves) they'll start negotiating with Vince Young on Monday.

Failure to do so will be the biggest disappointment in Houston football history.