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Blake Bortles

powda said:
So does fitz signing effect your opinion of drafting a qb#1 overall? Signing him 1 day after bortles pro day is particular timing, no?
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If anything this points towards us signing Bortles. Bortles is not ready to start - and it is debateable if it would be better for Bridgewater and Manziel to sit as a year as well. Now we have a veteran QB that can manage games and that can teach our rookie QB.

If anything, the fact, that every QB in this class has questionmarks and no QB has really seperated himself might change my opinion of selecting a QB #1. Right now I am hoping for a trade down...
 
Wednesday, March 19th, Blake Bortles Pro Day = Thursday, March 20th, Texans sign Ryan Fitzpatrick = Friday, March 21st, Texans trade Matt Schaub = Thursday, May 8th, 6:00 PM CDST, with FIRST pick in 2014 NFL Draft the TEXANS select; BLAKE BORTLES, QB, UCF.
 
Texian said:
Wednesday, March 19th, Blake Bortles Pro Day = Thursday, March 20th, Texans sign Ryan Fitzpatrick = Friday, March 21st, Texans trade Matt Schaub = Thursday, May 8th, 6:00 PM CDST, with FIRST pick in 2014 NFL Draft the TEXANS select; BLAKE BORTLES, QB, UCF.
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You do know "physically" Schaub is more like Bortles than not?

& "physically" Fitzpatrick is more like Bridgewater than not?


Louisville = Hillbilly Harvard...

I think Fitz signals a swing towards Bridgewater, not Bortles.
 
infantrycak said:
Why does Fitz mean Bortles instead of TB or Manziel? - or Mallett for that matter?
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I wont rule out Mallett but highly doubtful.

If they were going to draft JFF, why would they sign a pocket veteran? The scheme would have to fit JFF's abilities and Fitz abilities are completely different. I think if JFF were going to be drafted, they would have signed Vick, not Fitz. Frankly after his pro-day, I don't think TB is even an option at this point ... he just aint it. Now if we didnt take Bortles and he is still sitting there at 33 ... maybe.
 
kingtexan said:
If they were going to draft JFF, why would they sign a pocket veteran? The scheme would have to fit JFF's abilities and Fitz abilities are completely different. I think if JFF were going to be drafted, they would have signed Vick, not Fitz. Frankly after his pro-day, I don't think TB is even an option at this point ... he just aint it. Now if we didnt take Bortles and he is still sitting there at 33 ... maybe.
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Vick is a non-starter in many peoples' minds and is zilch in the mentoring department.

Also virtually everyone expects Manziel's success in the NFL to hinge on improving in the pocket.

No idea how you can rule out TB based on Fitz. Of the 3, TB is most similar to Fitz.
 
kingtexan said:
Bortles is far more mobile than Schaub, and has a stronger arm.
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"More than not" does not mean "Exactly Like" or "Clone LIke" or "nigh identical" or "might as well be twins" or "Schaub 2.0"

"physically" is not synonymous with "athletically"
 
thunderkyss said:
"More than not" does not mean "Exactly Like" or "Clone LIke" or "nigh identical" or "might as well be twins" or "Schaub 2.0"

"physically" is not synonymous with "athletically"
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That just ABOUT covers all your bases so you should be good to go. (ABOUT does not mean "Exactly Like" or "Clone LIke" or "nigh identical" or "might as well be twins").
 
thunderkyss said:
You do know "physically" Schaub is more like Bortles than not?

& "physically" Fitzpatrick is more like Bridgewater than not?


Louisville = Hillbilly Harvard...

I think Fitz signals a swing towards Bridgewater, not Bortles.
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I think Fitz siging represents nothing more than a vet QB FA desperation signing as the Texans knew they weren't keeping Schaub.
 
thunderkyss said:
"More than not" does not mean "Exactly Like" or "Clone LIke" or "nigh identical" or "might as well be twins" or "Schaub 2.0"

"physically" is not synonymous with "athletically"
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Looks the part from a lesser conference and really just started appearing on the radar . He is more prospect than finished product and may sit a year .

He did win the Beef O'Brady bowl vs Bowling Green in 2012 .

Reminds me of another #1 overall pick . :foottap:
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Ryan Fitzpatrick can ball. I don't think it was a desperation signing by any means.
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Looks more like a New England fisherman
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Texian said:
Wednesday, March 19th, Blake Bortles Pro Day = Thursday, March 20th, Texans sign Ryan Fitzpatrick = Friday, March 21st, Texans trade Matt Schaub = Thursday, May 8th, 6:00 PM CDST, with FIRST pick in 2014 NFL Draft the TEXANS select; BLAKE BORTLES, QB, UCF.
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Congrats Texian, by the script we are following we will no doubt be taking Bortles with the first pick in the draft. I'm a little disappointed but oh well.
 
revan said:
Congrats Texian, by the script we are following we will no doubt be taking Bortles with the first pick in the draft. I'm a little disappointed but oh well.
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Think of it as your first taste of Soy Milk. You hold your nose, drink, swallow and then you say, hey, that doesn't taste so bad after all. In due time I think you will be well pleased. Most likely right after that first GAME WINNING DRIVE. :)
 
Texian said:
Think of it as your first taste of Soy Milk. You hold your nose, drink, swallow and then you say, hey, that doesn't taste so bad after all. In due time I think you will be well pleased. Most likely right after that first GAME WINNING DRIVE. :)
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It is an awesome hobby, and I have you to thank for getting me into this. I guess I got spoiled since I got last years pick right in DeAndre.
 
thunderkyss said:
You do know "physically" Schaub is more like Bortles than not?

& "physically" Fitzpatrick is more like Bridgewater than not?


Louisville = Hillbilly Harvard...

I think Fitz signals a swing towards Bridgewater, not Bortles.
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Schaub is like Bortles in the world of someone that wants to make a comparison between two people who play nothing alike. Sure, its absurd, but you are entitled to your opinion despite how silly it is. Then again you are the same guy who said that Luck and Kaepernick weren't true NFL starters so QB's is something you clearly aren't adequate at being able to see and understand.
 
Texian said:
That just ABOUT covers all your bases so you should be good to go. (ABOUT does not mean "Exactly Like" or "Clone LIke" or "nigh identical" or "might as well be twins").
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He is trolling. Pretty easy to see at this point. He says stuff like this to get responses.
 
disaacks3 said:
I think Fitz siging represents nothing more than a vet QB FA desperation signing as the Texans knew they weren't keeping Schaub.
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Not me. I think he was a fantastic signing. He is a great backup to have who can help Bortles along slowly in his rookie season and a backup I hope we can keep for a while. Fitzpatrick can get hot at times and throw for a lot of yards. He just isn't a steady starter that can be good every week like most backups. Good pick up though.
 
PapaL said:
I'm pretty sure Schaub did not take a safety on this play. He threw a pick 6 to Baltimore to lose the game.
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Should I edit out safety and replace it with gave up points? LOL.

I don't know if Bortles is the guy but I'm just ready for some solid QB play again.
 
PapaL said:
I'm pretty sure Schaub did not take a safety on this play. He threw a pick 6 to Baltimore to lose the game.
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bah007 said:
Should I edit out safety and replace it with gave up points? LOL.

I don't know if Bortles is the guy but I'm just ready for some solid QB play again.
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We wouldn't have been in position for the OT pick 6 if Schaub hadn't thrown it out of the endzone under pressure on the 99 and 95 yd drives. A modicum of balance is not out of order.
 
steelbtexan said:
Bortles is going 1-1.
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Don't know how to get link but his is on nfl.com. The title is

Bill O'Brien: Little separation in QB draft class talent



O'Brien said the process is getting closer, but he hasn't narrowed down the list just yet. He told Wyche there isn't a lot of difference between the presumed top three quarterbacks and the rest of the prospects.

"I think the thing is, to me, there's not a lot of separation," he said when asked if any player was worth of the No. 1 overall pick. "And there are more quarterbacks than just three. Obviously the three guys that everybody talks about -- Blake (Bortles), Teddy (Bridgewater) and Johnny (Manziel). They're good players. They've had great college careers.

"But there are other guys out there. You've got (AJ) McCarron. You've got (Zach) Mettenberger. You've got Logan Thomas. You've got (Tom) Savage. You've got (Jimmy) Garoppolo. I mean, I can go right down the list. To me, you've got 10 to 12 guys you've got to do a great job of evaluating and make the best pick possible wherever you pick these guys. So I just see a lot of good quarterbacks. All of the guys have potential, which is a dangerous word, and you're trying to make sure you're doing what's best for your organization -- what fits best for your organization when you make that pick of a quarterback."

The bolded is pretty much what we have been saying for awhile now. I just don't see enough out of any of the top three to justify 1.1. I'll say it again. We should be patient take the best player available. We aren't winning a championship I. The next two years.
 
mussop said:
Don't know how to get link but his is on nfl.com. The title is

Bill O'Brien: Little separation in QB draft class talent



O'Brien said the process is getting closer, but he hasn't narrowed down the list just yet. He told Wyche there isn't a lot of difference between the presumed top three quarterbacks and the rest of the prospects.

"I think the thing is, to me, there's not a lot of separation," he said when asked if any player was worth of the No. 1 overall pick. "And there are more quarterbacks than just three. Obviously the three guys that everybody talks about -- Blake (Bortles), Teddy (Bridgewater) and Johnny (Manziel). They're good players. They've had great college careers.

"But there are other guys out there. You've got (AJ) McCarron. You've got (Zach) Mettenberger. You've got Logan Thomas. You've got (Tom) Savage. You've got (Jimmy) Garoppolo. I mean, I can go right down the list. To me, you've got 10 to 12 guys you've got to do a great job of evaluating and make the best pick possible wherever you pick these guys. So I just see a lot of good quarterbacks. All of the guys have potential, which is a dangerous word, and you're trying to make sure you're doing what's best for your organization -- what fits best for your organization when you make that pick of a quarterback."

The bolded is pretty much what we have been saying for awhile now. I just don't see enough out of any of the top three to justify 1.1. I'll say it again. We should be patient take the best player available. We aren't winning a championship I. The next two years.
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To me, every time I hear not a lot of separation from the top 3 this year, i blow it off. Manziel is probably much closer to a second or third round grade based on his skillset and how worried I'd be as GM to see if it translates. He's got a lot of hype and what if he has "it" behind him.

I think, again just what I think, it's a two horse race between Bortles and Bridgewater wiyh Bortles impressing at combine and pro-day. Just Bridgewater is more solid as a pocket passer.

The rest seem like people selling themselves on value in a later round.
 
Goldensilence said:
To me, every time I hear not a lot of separation from the top 3 this year, i blow it off. Manziel is probably much closer to a second or third round grade based on his skillset and how worried I'd be as GM to see if it translates. He's got a lot of hype and what if he has "it" behind him.

I think, again just what I think, it's a two horse race between Bortles and Bridgewater wiyh Bortles impressing at combine and pro-day. Just Bridgewater is more solid as a pocket passer.

The rest seem like people selling themselves on value in a later round.
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Just curious as to what part of Manziel's skillset you're referring to as lacking.
 
I think OB is going to take Jimmy Garoppolo in the 2nd. I just get that feeling. I don't want a qb with the 1st pick. None are worth it in this draft. Take the best rated player 1st whether it be Clowney, Robinson, Mack, etc. I think that would take pressure off whatever qb we do pick. 1st overall comes with some serious pressure and none of the top 3 rated qbs look like they are ready for that. We need OL, DL, and LBers bad. Fill one of those needs with a blue chipper and instantly get better. QB will take some time.
 
mussop said:
Don't know how to get link but his is on nfl.com. The title is

Bill O'Brien: Little separation in QB draft class talent



O'Brien said the process is getting closer, but he hasn't narrowed down the list just yet. He told Wyche there isn't a lot of difference between the presumed top three quarterbacks and the rest of the prospects.

"I think the thing is, to me, there's not a lot of separation," he said when asked if any player was worth of the No. 1 overall pick. "And there are more quarterbacks than just three. Obviously the three guys that everybody talks about -- Blake (Bortles), Teddy (Bridgewater) and Johnny (Manziel). They're good players. They've had great college careers.

"But there are other guys out there. You've got (AJ) McCarron. You've got (Zach) Mettenberger. You've got Logan Thomas. You've got (Tom) Savage. You've got (Jimmy) Garoppolo. I mean, I can go right down the list. To me, you've got 10 to 12 guys you've got to do a great job of evaluating and make the best pick possible wherever you pick these guys. So I just see a lot of good quarterbacks. All of the guys have potential, which is a dangerous word, and you're trying to make sure you're doing what's best for your organization -- what fits best for your organization when you make that pick of a quarterback."

The bolded is pretty much what we have been saying for awhile now. I just don't see enough out of any of the top three to justify 1.1. I'll say it again. We should be patient take the best player available. We aren't winning a championship I. The next two years.
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Who the "F" knows who the best player available is? According to the scouts who don't value a player's personality and his work ethic, and they say Clowney is that guy when he is far from it. He isn't even close to it.

You take the guy who you think has the highest % chance to be a great player for your team where the pick won't be a bad pick. We're not in any position to be taking on some guy like Clowney who is a huge gamble and arguably a project player since he lacks a lot of moves and a work ethic.

We need a QB and we need to get the best guy we can get. Bortles will be our first pick I'm pretty sure. If not for a QB with that first pick, hopefully we get Mack who seems to be a high % pick to be a great player.
 
Texecutioner said:
Who the "F" knows who the best player available is? According to the scouts who don't value a player's personality and his work ethic, and they say Clowney is that guy when he is far from it. He isn't even close to it.

You take the guy who you think has the highest % chance to be a great player for your team where the pick won't be a bad pick.
We need a QB and we need to get the best guy we can get. Bortles will be our first pick I'm pretty sure. If not for a QB with that first pick, hopefully we get Mack who seems to be a high % pick to be a great player.
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If we pick Bortles #1, I'll shoot myself!!

We're not in any position to be taking on some guy like Clowney who is a huge gamble and arguably a project player since he lacks a lot of moves and a work ethic.
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Why is he a huge gamble??

I may be throwing a fishing line out there with a bobble on it, but what makes you think JJ Watt would ever allow for a lack in work ethic??
 
Texan_Bill said:
If we pick Bortles #1, I'll shoot myself!!



Why is he a huge gamble??

I may be throwing a fishing line out there with a bobble on it, but what makes you think JJ Watt would ever allow for a lack in work ethic??
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If you draft Clowney and he's a bust at least you went big . If you draft Bortles on the other hand , people are gonna say " who didn't see that coming " .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
If you draft Clowney and he's a bust at least you went big . If you draft Bortles on the other hand , people are gonna say " who didn't see that coming " .
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You don't think they will say that about Clowney if he is a bust? I can guarantee you that a lot of people will. A lot of people are already predicting that.

And who cares what people say any way? You draft the guy that you feel has the highest % chance at being an impact player on your team. QB is the most important position right now though.
 
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