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Blake Bortles

WolverineFan said:
I'm guilty of it as well sometimes. Sometimes you're trying to describe to someone how you see a guy physically and so you make that comparison. If someone thinks Bortles looks like Luck physically then that's fine. But I would never compare them like that as prospects. Luck was so much farther ahead in the mental aspect of the game and his ball placement is elite level.

It's the same as the Manziel/Wilson comparisons. Do they look similar physically? Yes. But they play nothing alike and Wilson was so much farther ahead in the game mentally and has a much better arm.
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I don't remember anyone being compared to Sonny Sixkiller ?
 
TexansFTW said:
He's white and had a Football player (I think maybe QB) father.

Other than that maybe height and build, but as a football player, nothing.

These comparisons are ridiculous. It seems like many are just looking for physical comparisons (skin color, build, body type) to use these comparisons and not actual football playing.

I saw in another thread someone comparing Teddy B to David Garrarrd AND Byron Leftwich... come on people.
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If drafted by the Texans I think Bridgewater will have the traits of Romo as a pro. Great numbers, avg arm, good mobility. Thinks his arm is better than it is and this gets him into trouble

I want more from 1-1.
 
I guess it's about time to watch some tape on this kid. You'd think because UCF is in Orlando, I would have seen him play more. I'll watch some when I get a chance and give my opinion when I do.

On paper, I like his size. I've been watching Bridgewater more and he's just so dang skinny. His legs are like toothpicks.
 
TexansFTW said:
He's white and had a Football player (I think maybe QB) father.

Other than that maybe height and build, but as a football player, nothing.

These comparisons are ridiculous. It seems like many are just looking for physical comparisons (skin color, build, body type) to use these comparisons and not actual football playing.

I saw in another thread someone comparing Teddy B to David Garrarrd AND Byron Leftwich... come on people.
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I have compared Teddy to Landry Jones, both IMHO have questionable ball placement and high trajectory on their deep pass. This must be some more of that asinine reasoning. :)
 
steelbtexan said:
If drafted by the Texans I think Bridgewater will have the traits of Romo as a pro. Great numbers, avg arm, good mobility. Thinks his arm is better than it is and this gets him into trouble

I want more from 1-1.
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Just about every expert I've read says he's got great arm strength, don't know where avg arm came from.

When does his arm get him into trouble? I think trouble and I think game ending / game changing interceptions. He's never done that.

He actually plays pretty awesome in clutch moments. Constantly cool in the 4th with game winning drives. He even had the ball on Louisville's final drive against UCF and drove down the field and scored. Bortles also drove down and scored. This to me tells me both are awesome QBs, I like TB more though.

I see 0% of TB in Romo. Maybe they will both play in Texas next year?
 
I think we draft Bortles and McCarron and put their girlfriends on the 50p yard line so they can be on the jumbo screen all the time . We can fire Mark V and hire Brent Musberger .

Texans have a 3rd down and 9 from their own 2 yd line . Bortles back to pass ... wait ... have you seen Katherine Webb and Bortles chick ? Umm umm umm ... dre just think what you could do on a baby oil slip and slide with those two . Incomplete ... Dre ... those are two hot ladies ... I'll tell you what ... punt to the 46 yd line .... if I was 50 years younger I'd give them the ol Musberger .
 
Texian said:
American Athletic Conference

Offensive Player of the Year = Blake Bortles
1st Team QB = Blake Bortles
2nd Team QB = Teddy Bridgewater

http://theamerican.org/news/2013/12/11/FB_1211130338.aspx
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2 finalists. 1 had their team beat the other's team and thus cost the other team the AAC championship. No brainer. It was the right decision.

RG3 won the Heisman when Andrew Luck was the better QB. It didn't mean RG3 was a better pro prospect.
 
TexansFTW said:
2 finalists. 1 had their team beat the other's team and thus cost the other team the AAC championship. No brainer. It was the right decision.

RG3 won the Heisman when Andrew Luck was the better QB. It didn't mean RG3 was a better pro prospect.
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I beg to differ RG3 was just as good aprospect as Luck. He wasn't as good this yr coming off an ACL injury. If he stays healthy Griffin can be just as good as Luck.

Shanny is an idiot.
 
steelbtexan said:
I beg to differ RG3 was just as good aprospect as Luck. He wasn't as good this yr coming off an ACL injury. If he stays healthy Griffin can be just as good as Luck.

Shanny is an idiot.
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Griffin was a great prospect. Would have been the #1 QB in most drafts. But I had Luck rated significantly higher.

And yes, Shanahan has bumbled that situation.
 
bah007 said:
Griffin was a great prospect. Would have been the #1 QB in most drafts. But I had Luck rated significantly higher.

And yes, Shanahan has bumbled that situation.
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The entire organization has bumbled it.

Shanahan for playing him hurt last year and getting him hurt even worse. Also, for letting him play back from injury still not 100% and not being able to adapt to his injured and less mobile state.

Snyder for empowering his QB over the coaching staff thus sabotaging the power of the HC. Also, he continually oversteps his bounds as owner and meddles in football affairs. He invites Griffin over for dinner sometimes, yet hardly speaks to other players.

Griffin for trying to rehab too fast to get back and play. Should have taken his time, but forced the rehab so he wouldn't miss games. He also worked so hard on rehab in the offseason that he made just about zero progression as a QB. He's the same guy as last year, but with no mobility. Which of course means he's nowhere near the same guy.

EDIT: I also had Luck rated much higher. It was never a debate for me between #1/#2.
 
Nothing is guaranteed tomorrow in pro sports today and hindsight is 20/20.

Ask the Bulls and the Nationals.

If I invested 3 - 1st round picks in RG3 you're damn right I roll him out there if he's medically cleared. I'm not a doctor, but the doctor's say he's full go, that's it. There's no questions.

He was also medically cleared last year's playoff game. If they would have rolled out Cousins and got smashed while RG3 was medically cleared yall would still be calling the guy an idiot.

Shanahan is a Douche and deserves this scrutiny, but to blame him because of RG3's failures is hardly fair.

Just like everyone else in the world, I also felt that Andrew Luck was the superior NFL QB coming out of college. The same way I feel that TB is the superior NFL QB to BB, not that BB is bad, just not as good IMHO.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I guess it's about time to watch some tape on this kid. You'd think because UCF is in Orlando, I would have seen him play more. I'll watch some when I get a chance and give my opinion when I do.

On paper, I like his size. I've been watching Bridgewater more and he's just so dang skinny. His legs are like toothpicks.
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The two games I focused on were not favorable to him. The last had the 13 degree chill factor but Keenum would get no slack for that so neither should Bortles. My biggest concern with him is he could mess up a trade scenario if he is high as some think.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I guess it's about time to watch some tape on this kid. You'd think because UCF is in Orlando, I would have seen him play more. I'll watch some when I get a chance and give my opinion when I do.

On paper, I like his size. I've been watching Bridgewater more and he's just so dang skinny. His legs are like toothpicks.
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I have watched many of Bortles games this year. Watch the South Carolina game, his worst. Bortles literally cost his team that game with 2 INTs and a fumble. Reminded me of Jeff Driskel at FLA. Bortles also did many things to keep his team in that game and almost won the darn thing but his INTs and fumble is why they lost. Bortles has seemed to get better and correct his mistakes. The Memphis, Louisville, Temple and South Florida game Bortles delivers his team a victory at or near the games end. The SMU game was very cold and Bortles performed well in the cold. The biggest obstacle to Bortles and the UCF team playing SMU is UCF had claimed the Conference title and wrapped up a BCS Bowl the week before.
 
Texian said:
I have watched many of Bortles games this year. Watch the South Carolina game, his worst. Bortles literally cost his team that game with 2 INTs and a fumble. Reminded me of Jeff Driskel at FLA. Bortles also did many things to keep his team in that game and almost won the darn thing but his INTs and fumble is why they lost. Bortles has seemed to get better and correct his mistakes. The Memphis, Louisville, Temple and South Florida game Bortles delivers his team a victory at or near the games end. The SMU game was very cold and Bortles performed well in the cold. The biggest obstacle to Bortles and the UCF team playing SMU is UCF had claimed the Conference title and wrapped up a BCS Bowl the week before.
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UCF also played well enough to win against Ohio State last year, and while Bortles played a good game for the most part, his turnovers are what cost them in the end.

While I wouldn't call that a trend, because he has obviously improved since the beginning of last season, one of the things I see with him is that sometimes he tries to do too much. Now sometimes this works and he makes great plays, but he also can get careless with the ball while trying to make plays. It's a double edged sword.

I'll be interested to see how he performs late in the UCF/Baylor game if it's close. When he plays lower tier teams he puts them away. Against Ohio State and South Carolina he didn't. If he performs on the big stage at the Fiesta Bowl in that situation, it will say a lot about how far he's come as a player.
 
The junior, who Penn State coach Bill O’Brien referred to as a pro prospect earlier this week, picked apart the Lions’ secondary from the start, leading the Knights’ 13-play, 89-yard drive with ease to begin the game.

Lions’ defensive coordinator John Butler said Bortles did a great job of neutralizing the Lions’ pass rush — which amassed zero sacks — by not giving the defensive line much time to finish their rushing patterns.

“Quick decision making,” Butler said of Bortles’ best trait. “He was making his decision about where he wanted to throw the ball quickly. He threw it, and the receivers made plays.”

The junior quarterback also found ways to hurt the Lions with the deep ball, targeting an inexperienced secondary group that often came up short in coverage.

With the Knights leading 21-10 in the middle of the third quarter, Bortles felt the pressure on 2nd-and-10 and lofted a high-arching pass right into Josh Reese’s outstretched arms for the touchdown to give the Knights an 18-point lead.

This was one of many instances when Bortles bought time in the pocket before fitting a deep pass into a small area, which is exactly what O'Brien said makes defending him such a difficult task.

“Any time you have a quarterback like that with a strong arm, who’s big and can stand in the pocket and can run, it’s a very difficult challenge,” O’Brien said. “He played a great game tonight. Credit to him. I think he’s a heck of a player.”

Even when Penn State clawed back into the game late in the second half, bringing bursts of energy back into the Beaver Stadium crowd, Bortles answered.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/football/article_df4e21a8-1dba-11e3-bbac-001a4bcf6878.html
 
I am really becoming intrigued by this Bortles kid. Especially with the potential that we could land O'Brien?? :evil:

If that were to happen where O'Brien comes here and gets this Bortles kid who sounds a lot like a Brady/Montana type of QB from college then man that would be freaking awesome. Not sure how good Bortles will be or anything, but he is quickly becoming my favorite candidate.
 
McShay says that Rick smith with be at Brotles' bowl game against Baylor just like was at Bridgewater's...sorry no link
 
I have no issues with taking Bortles 1st overall if the Texans feel he is the best qb in the draft. Lets see how he does in his bowl game and find out if he is coming out.
 
Been reading up some on this kid. I didn't think he'd be an early first round discussion. I was hoping he'd be in the Boyd, Mettenberger, late first early second discussion.

I like his size. I like his story. He looks as good as any of them on youtube.

Sucks if they start talking him up to a top 10 QB.
 
thunderkyss said:
Been reading up some on this kid. I didn't think he'd be an early first round discussion. I was hoping he'd be in the Boyd, Mettenberger, late first early second discussion.

I like his size. I like his story. He looks as good as any of them on youtube.

Sucks if they start talking him up to a top 10 QB.
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I like his size, but the way he almost "chuck and duck" reminds me of Gabbert, and that's a scary thought.

It seems to indicate that he's late in his read and/or in his mechanics.

Zach M looks to be a better prospect, but he's still in rehab before surgery, and I just read that it can take as long as 18 months for him to get back into playing shape.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Lol yea I mean why lean on 20 years of experience playing and scouting right?
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Nobody at nfl.com gets it wrong as much as good old Bucky. Says Blake compares to Nick Foles. Last I checked Foles is a Top 5 QB. Besides Bucky loves him some Teddy. see Bucky's Teddy Love Story.
 
Texian said:
Nobody at nfl.com gets it wrong as much as good old Bucky. Says Blake compares to Nick Foles. Last I checked Foles is a Top 5 QB. Besides Bucky loves him some Teddy. see Bucky's Teddy Love Story.
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Link me to your wiki or post your scouting resume. Easy for Joe Schmoe to criticize, Brooks likes Manziel better than Bortles as well FWIW.

I can see a scenario where Bortles struggles and some of you will say he faced an elite defense.
 
He probably won't be the top pick but his gf sure as hell would be. Wow she makes concentrating on football hard; Lindsey Duke.

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Texian said:
Nobody at nfl.com gets it wrong as much as good old Bucky. Says Blake compares to Nick Foles. Last I checked Foles is a Top 5 QB. Besides Bucky loves him some Teddy. see Bucky's Teddy Love Story.
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As a guy that breaks down film and evaluates talent he doesn't have to choose 1 QB and find flaw in all the rest. He's not in a Houston Texans forum making his case for 1 player over the other.

If he felt that Bortles was elite along with 4 other QBs, it's not a knock on his job to say there are 5 elite QBs in the draft. So despite the fact he loves Teddy, it doesn't mean he has to dislike Bortles. I think he is honestly assessing him.

With all that said, I don't agree w/ Bucky on this. Bortles is day 1 talent and athletic enough that I can't see the combine hurting him in any way. I also doubt that the Baylor game can hurt him either. When Baylor is up by 20 in the 4th, UCF is gonna have to throw and in a soft prevent defense he's gonna look great.

As far as Bucky frequently getting it wrong, find me a published scout/draft guy that doesn't have countless mistakes on his resume, I bet you can't unless they are from the future. 200+ players to evaluate EVERY year generally means lots of mistakes.
 
Playoffs said:
LOL, I'll just rely on the fact that at this time last year Bucky had Sonic Sam Montgomery at #15 overall on his "Big Board".
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That is exactly what I mean about ole Bucky he is often quite the contrarian. I quit reading him years ago, I rarely agreed with anything he wrote and there is only so many minutes in a day, not enough for Bucky.
 
Playoffs said:
LOL, I'll just rely on the fact that at this time last year Bucky had Sonic Sam Montgomery at #15 overall on his "Big Board".
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And he also nailed the Barkevious (sp?) Mingo, Keenan Allen picks, plus had Eric Fisher who went 1 as his 14th best, which also was a good assessment. Nobody hits 100% and all analysts want to throw out a diamond in the rough. Brooks took.a shot and missed, when the Texans made that selection more people rather than less felt it was a steal. You know that thing about hindsight right?
 
Uncle Rico said:
Seems to me that all of Bortles weaknesses are Teddy B strengths. Jake Locker? Ouch.
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Bortles completion % is 15% higher and TD to INT ratio is 3x Jake Locker numbers. If you did a little research you wouldn't be so gullible and naive to media no nothing's garbage.
 
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