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BL Stop bleeding Mock Draft

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First Round: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M, 6050 310

Second Round: Will Sutton, NT, Arizona State, 6010 300

Third Round: AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama, 6030 215

Fourth Round: Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia, 6050 258

Fifth Round: Michael Dyer, RB, Louisville, 5090 217

Sixth Round: Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin, 5110 248

Seventh Round: Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas, 6040 300

Even with trading down there is just no way to cover all holes on this roster but at least this would stop some of the bleeding with safe, right the ship picks if in fact it is possible for Kubiak to save his job @ this point?

Big upgrade to OL well as heart/middle of defense. QB to groom under Keenum, TE to replace Owen & RB to replace Tate. :fostering:
 
If AJ McCarron can read the blitz and get the ball out faster than Keenum I'm all for it.

Good draft, but no CB?
 
htownfan32 said:
If AJ McCarron can read the blitz and get the ball out faster than Keenum I'm all for it.

Good draft, but no CB?
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McCarron has great numbers against the blitz. The problem is, he has played behind the best O-Line in the country for 4 years so even when he's blitzed he's rarely truly pressured.

It will be interesting to see how he responds in the NFL when that's not the case.
 
I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.
 
I like it but I don't think McCarron last to Rd 3. With media draftniks maybe, NFL draft boards probably not. I would guess McCarron is closer to Rd 1 than Rd 3. Like Lynch in Rd 4 and Hopkins in Rd 7. IMHO better value with Manziel Rd 1 and Schreff Rd 2. As for NT easier to find better value in FA at reasonable cost.
 
rmartin65 said:
I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.
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Thanks Amigo,

It thought Mitchell had one of his best games but seemed like every time he made a play they rotated him out then nothing. Sutton is a better prospect coming out than Earl who was taken with high 3rd.

Like stated there are just more needs than picks even with a trade down plus have yet to identify a DB after priority needs are met, as BB states Texans can roll w/Kareem on the cheap for one more season.
 
rmartin65 said:
I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.
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Sutton was a beast last year. He put on weight to take on double teams and looks slow. He would do better to get down to his previous weight. He's not a NT. Using him as one is a waste of his skills.

I agree with BL's assessment that he's a more talented Earl Mitchell. Both guys have the similar skill-set's. They are gap shooting 3' techniques that excel at rushing the passer. Like Mitchell, he would be miscast at NT in this defense.
 
FWIW - I had Mitchell as 5th RD draft pick. Needless to say I was aghast when the Texans took him in the 3rd.
 
WolverineFan said:
Sutton was a beast last year. He put on weight to take on double teams and looks slow. He would do better to get down to his previous weight. He's not a NT. Using him as one is a waste of his skills.

I agree with BL's assessment that he's a more talented Earl Mitchell. Both guys have the similar skill-set's. They are gap shooting 3' techniques that excel at rushing the passer. Like Mitchell, he would be miscast at NT in this defense.
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I also agree with BL and 65 as we should move Mitchell over to take Ninja's place and back him with Crick for at least one more year.
 
badboy said:
I also agree with BL and 65 as we should move Mitchell over to take Ninja's place and back him with Crick for at least one more year.
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Depends on what type of defense the new regime wants to run next yr.
 
aussie_texan said:
and your happy with that?

Ps. tone my not come across right way with this wording, just asking.
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I'd be super happy if both Cushing/Sharpton could stay healthy for a change. While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!
 
beerlover said:
I'd be super happy if both Cushing/Sharpton could stay healthy for a change. While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!
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bolded are my concerns. mind you I really like mosley and am probably a little be biased. along with the terrible play of our current linebackers I'm perhaps overreacting when it comes drafting a ILB early
 
beerlover said:
I'd be super happy if both Cushing/Sharpton could stay healthy for a change. While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!
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Reminder Sharpton is a FA this off season & would probably sign up for reasonable amount but I am done with him.
 
BL, I like most of the positions you drafted and about 3 or 4 of the players. Can't argue with Matthews in the 1st. They have to do something about that right side and Newton isn't cutting it. We do have Quiz and Brennan Williams on IR so I'm sure between Matthews and those 2 they should be able to find their RT and maybe their LG.

Not sure about Sutton in the 2nd. I'm still holding out for a bigger NT like maybe Hageman, if he's still there, or Jones from Penn St. Sutton seems like Mitchell or T. McClain part 2. Just hope who ever the DC is next year will be inclined to go that direction. You can see what it does for teams like KC with Poe or Carolina with Lotulelei. And, it may help Cush stay healthy for a season.

McCarron in the 3rd I'm not really sold on either but it may be a good value. To be honest I'm not really sold on any of the QB's in this draft, so I could live with McCarron I guess. Just not excited about him and wouldn't mind waiting on another QB later and maybe pick up a CB/S here. I know there's a lot of questions moving forward with this team and who the coaches will be next season, but I really think Keenum can be the QB of this team and I hope they will give him a chance.

Lynch in the 4th would be a good replacement for OD who should be gone next season. If the Fiedorowicz kid is still there I'd rather they get him.

Dyer in the 5th I don't know much about but could be a good replacement for Tate.

Borland in the 6th would be great but I don't know if he lasts this long. They may have to take him earlier, but I think he would be a great fit for the LB corps. He's a little undersized (5'11") but a big time run stuffer.

Not sold on taking an OG in the 7th. Whoever you get here will probably not be as good as Ben Jones or Quiz. This spot could be used for a Special Teams player like a quick "scat back" type RB, or maybe another Safety or LBer.

Overall it looks like a good draft and I wouldn't be unhappy with the pickups. Like you said, there's too many holes to fill in one draft, but I think you got most of them.
 
The biggest knock against McCarron seems to be he does well behind a great Oline so why not put him behind a great Oline in Houston. Brown, Quess, Myers/Jones, Brooks and Matthews. We want to build the line for Keenum anyway so McCarron would seem to be a perfect fit. My only concern is using that pick elsewhere.
 
badboy said:
The biggest knock against McCarron seems to be he does well behind a great Oline so why not put him behind a great Oline in Houston. Brown, Quess, Myers/Jones, Brooks and Matthews. We want to build the line for Keenum anyway so McCarron would seem to be a perfect fit. My only concern is using that pick elsewhere.
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Except that is basically the same thing as saying he needs a good team around him to win (or at least he wins when there is a very good team around him). He's never been challenged in the way Manziel or Mariota or even Morris and Mettenberger have.
 
badboy said:
The biggest knock against McCarron seems to be he does well behind a great Oline so why not put him behind a great Oline in Houston. Brown, Quess, Myers/Jones, Brooks and Matthews. We want to build the line for Keenum anyway so McCarron would seem to be a perfect fit. My only concern is using that pick elsewhere.
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Even behind that line, he's still just been a game manager his entire career. I can only recall one game during his tenure where he put the game on his shoulders and won it. That was the A&M game this year and, with their defense, that's not exactly impressive.
 
bhsman said:
Except that is basically the same thing as saying he needs a good team around him to win (or at least he wins when there is a very good team around him). He's never been challenged in the way Manziel or Mariota or even Morris and Mettenberger have.
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Still if GM puts decent team around him and he is coached up, I am willing to wait to see if he can stand up to challenge. Identify anything else wrong with him that rules him out as a NFL QB.
 
WolverineFan said:
Even behind that line, he's still just been a game manager his entire career. I can only recall one game during his tenure where he put the game on his shoulders and won it. That was the A&M game this year and, with their defense, that's not exactly impressive.
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There is only one QB in this draft that can "put game on his shoulders" and that is Manziel. He is not the QB I want so that leaves me comparing QBs to McCarron who as of now, we could get in late second. Other than Bridgewate, I take him over every other one. Murray is right there. AJ may not have taken it on his shoulders but he did not piss it away either.
 
Insideop said:
BL, I like most of the positions you drafted and about 3 or 4 of the players. Can't argue with Matthews in the 1st. They have to do something about that right side and Newton isn't cutting it. We do have Quiz and Brennan Williams on IR so I'm sure between Matthews and those 2 they should be able to find their RT and maybe their LG.

Not sure about Sutton in the 2nd. I'm still holding out for a bigger NT like maybe Hageman, if he's still there, or Jones from Penn St. Sutton seems like Mitchell or T. McClain part 2. Just hope who ever the DC is next year will be inclined to go that direction. You can see what it does for teams like KC with Poe or Carolina with Lotulelei. And, it may help Cush stay healthy for a season.

McCarron in the 3rd I'm not really sold on either but it may be a good value. To be honest I'm not really sold on any of the QB's in this draft, so I could live with McCarron I guess. Just not excited about him and wouldn't mind waiting on another QB later and maybe pick up a CB/S here. I know there's a lot of questions moving forward with this team and who the coaches will be next season, but I really think Keenum can be the QB of this team and I hope they will give him a chance.

Lynch in the 4th would be a good replacement for OD who should be gone next season. If the Fiedorowicz kid is still there I'd rather they get him.

Dyer in the 5th I don't know much about but could be a good replacement for Tate.

Borland in the 6th would be great but I don't know if he lasts this long. They may have to take him earlier, but I think he would be a great fit for the LB corps. He's a little undersized (5'11") but a big time run stuffer.

Not sold on taking an OG in the 7th. Whoever you get here will probably not be as good as Ben Jones or Quiz. This spot could be used for a Special Teams player like a quick "scat back" type RB, or maybe another Safety or LBer.

Overall it looks like a good draft and I wouldn't be unhappy with the pickups. Like you said, there's too many holes to fill in one draft, but I think you got most of them.
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Thanks for your feedback!

You hit on something I want to expound on & those are roster holes that require immediate help. These are all Seniors well seasoned & coach'ed all way down list, maybe not the highest ceilings but focusing on safe, immediate ability to contribute, high character/leadership people. We also must consider some free agent moves to address needs prior to draft that will influence exactly who they target. OT, DT, QB, TE, RB, ILB, OG seems like a resonable hiarchey of needs.
 
beerlover said:
Thanks for your feedback!

You hit on something I want to expound on & those are roster holes that require immediate help. These are all Seniors well seasoned & coach'ed all way down list, maybe not the highest ceilings but focusing on safe, immediate ability to contribute, high character/leadership people. We also must consider some free agent moves to address needs prior to draft that will influence exactly who they target. OT, DT, QB, TE, RB, ILB, OG seems like a resonable hiarchey of needs.
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I agree with this as we need to hit solidly on each of first four rounds with minimal risk. Another reason I don't want Manziel who is high reward but very high risk. I almost can put Clowney there also though many will disagree.
 
aussie_texan said:
bolded are my concerns. mind you I really like mosley and am probably a little be biased. along with the terrible play of our current linebackers I'm perhaps overreacting when it comes drafting a ILB early
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I've already had Mack in 1st & Mosley is even safer pick, but flash back last year, you'll see my Texan 1st rd. projection was Alec Ogletree. Now Texans have chance to add bookend OT or franchise QB.
 
badboy said:
I agree with this as we need to hit solidly on each of first four rounds with minimal risk. Another reason I don't want Manziel who is high reward but very high risk. I almost can put Clowney there also though many will disagree.
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I don't disagree. I don't want anything to do with Clowney and I hope whoever the GM and coaches are next season do not pick him! The high risk and high reward tag that Manziel has is different from Clowney's. Manziel won't quit on his team and only play when he wants too. Sure Clowney has tons of talent, but what good does it do the team if he doesn't feel like playing! People here dogged Mario for only showing up sometimes but I don't think Mario ever quit on his team in college and I don't think he ever quit on the Texans while he was playing here. If it were up to me I'd pass on Clowney and Manziel. The risk is too great for either one.
 
badboy said:
There is only one QB in this draft that can "put game on his shoulders" and that is Manziel. He is not the QB I want so that leaves me comparing QBs to McCarron who as of now, we could get in late second. Other than Bridgewate, I take him over every other one. Murray is right there. AJ may not have taken it on his shoulders but he did not piss it away either.
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Manziel is the only QB that you think can drag his team to a win, therefore you don't want him.

What.
 
WolverineFan said:
Even behind that line, he's still just been a game manager his entire career. I can only recall one game during his tenure where he put the game on his shoulders and won it. That was the A&M game this year and, with their defense, that's not exactly impressive.
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The SEC Championship game last year.
 
Texian said:
The SEC Championship game last year.
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He threw for 162 with 1 TD and 1 INT. He had a QBR of 37.5 in that game.

Lacy and Yeldon combined for 330+ rushing yards and 3 TD's. Not to mention roughly half of his passing yards were YAC by Amari Cooper. McCarron had as much to do with that win as I did.
 
WolverineFan said:
He threw for 162 with 1 TD and 1 INT. He had a QBR of 37.5 in that game.

Lacy and Yeldon combined for 330+ rushing yards and 3 TD's. Not to mention roughly half of his passing yards were YAC by Amari Cooper. McCarron had as much to do with that win as I did.
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Were they not down late in 4th Quarter and McCarron engineered a comeback? or am I thinking of another game?
 
Texian said:
Were they not down late in 4th Quarter and McCarron engineered a comeback? or am I thinking of another game?
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If running the ball down the field and then hitting a wide open playaction pass for a TD is putting the team on your shoulders then sure count it.
 
WolverineFan said:
If running the ball down the field and then hitting a wide open playaction pass for a TD is putting the team on your shoulders then sure count it.
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I guess we have a different outlook and opinion. I consider throwing a 45 yd TD pass with 3 minutes left in SEC Championship game against a very good Georgia defense, a pretty big deal. To me that is one of the most important factors in evaluating a QB, how they perform late in the game coming from behind or engineering a game winning drive. Most guys are app to throw the INT.
 
Texian said:
I guess we have a different outlook and opinion. I consider throwing a 45 yd TD pass with 3 minutes left in SEC Championship game against a very good Georgia defense, a pretty big deal. To me that is one of the most important factors in evaluating a QB, how they perform late in the game coming from behind or engineering a game winning drive. Most guys are app to throw the INT.
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That's true and it's a good point. I was merely pointing out that he was a non-factor in the game until that final TD pass. Maybe if they have a different QB it's a blowout because with the way they were running the ball it should have been.
 
Yall remember when aaron curry was the safe pick? How many safe millionaires are there in the world? Safe is another word for scared. You can try to be safe and the guy will still be a bust. Gronk nor hernandez were safe picks. Jimmy Graham, dez bryant, nor gates were safe picks. If you want to not draftbs guy because he was a trouble maker, ok. You shouldnt br scared of a playrr brcause he hss s giant upside.
 
Last year's SEC championship game is remembered more for being TJ Yeldon's coming out party than McCarron putting the team on his shoulders.
 
leebigeztx said:
Yall remember when aaron curry was the safe pick? How many safe millionaires are there in the world? Safe is another word for scared. You can try to be safe and the guy will still be a bust. Gronk nor hernandez were safe picks. Jimmy Graham, dez bryant, nor gates were safe picks. If you want to not draftbs guy because he was a trouble maker, ok. You shouldnt br scared of a playrr brcause he hss s giant upside.
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Well, I remember a draft when the Texans picked a 19 year old DT with a lot of upside but somewhat of a high risk, and passed on a LBer named Willis. This MB never let them hear the end of it! So, your damned if you do and damned if you don't! I'd rather they take Matthews or someone like him who is a solid prospect that has some upside rather than take a Manziel or Clowney who have more upside but far more risk.
 
Insideop said:
Well, I remember a draft when the Texans picked a 19 year old DT with a lot of upside but somewhat of a high risk, and passed on a LBer named Willis. This MB never let them hear the end of it! So, your damned if you do and damned if you don't! I'd rather they take Matthews or someone like him who is a solid prospect that has some upside rather than take a Manziel or Clowney who have more upside but far more risk.
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That's because they didn't take the best player. They tried to fill a ned. Willis killed the sec and ran a 4.37 at 6'2 240lbs. How is that not high upside?. Just like passing dez bryant for kareem jackson. Or titans fans will remember dyson vs randy moss. The point is all these guys are boom or bust. Jayson smith and robert gallery were safe picks too. Joe thomas is great, but when was the last time the champ has had a great left tackle drafted that high? Ogdon and pace and that was 15 yrs ago.

Drafting this big kid from miami of ohio or deleware was very risky. Those guys coming from those small schools going top 10 is super duper risky,but look at the payoff. That's what its about. The best way to sustained success is by having a franchise qb,not a franchise left or right tackle. You have to have a qb who can beat andrew luck,big ben,peyton,brady, etc. If you don't,your team will be inconsistent in making the playoffs. Even if the qb needs a yr to develop, if he has franchise qb skills,you can't pass him for a rt or de.
 
leebigeztx said:
That's because they didn't take the best player. They tried to fill a ned. Willis killed the sec and ran a 4.37 at 6'2 240lbs. How is that not high upside?. Just like passing dez bryant for kareem jackson. Or titans fans will remember dyson vs randy moss. The point is all these guys are boom or bust. Jayson smith and robert gallery were safe picks too. Joe thomas is great, but when was the last time the champ has had a great left tackle drafted that high? Ogdon and pace and that was 15 yrs ago.

Drafting this big kid from miami of ohio or deleware was very risky. Those guys coming from those small schools going top 10 is super duper risky,but look at the payoff. That's what its about. The best way to sustained success is by having a franchise qb,not a franchise left or right tackle. You have to have a qb who can beat andrew luck,big ben,peyton,brady, etc. If you don't,your team will be inconsistent in making the playoffs. Even if the qb needs a yr to develop, if he has franchise qb skills,you can't pass him for a rt or de.
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Good stuff, always enjoyed your draft approach & just pure scouting in general!

Safe was not the correct choice of words, more like just don't F••• it up, measure risk vs reward & make best buisness decision. Matthews fits perfectly, Sutton could be a very physical DE & kick inside. McCarron would be a good back-up, hard to judge upside? Question arm strength, mobility & athletic ability but he looks really strong @ times. Lynch is a perfect system fit but what if all that changes? Dyer is a bell cow back, very important addition. Borland will find a way to start. OG depth always good.
 
leebigeztx said:
They tried to fill a ned. Willis killed the sec and ran a 4.37 at 6'2 240lbs. HowThat's because they didn't take the best player. is that not high upside?. Just like passing dez bryant for kareem jackson. Or titans fans will remember dyson vs randy moss. The point is all these guys are boom or bust. Jayson smith and robert gallery were safe picks too. Joe thomas is great, but when was the last time the champ has had a great left tackle drafted that high? Ogdon and pace and that was 15 yrs ago.

Drafting this big kid from miami of ohio or deleware was very risky. Those guys coming from those small schools going top 10 is super duper risky,but look at the payoff. That's what its about. The best way to sustained success is by having a franchise qb,not a franchise left or right tackle. You have to have a qb who can beat andrew luck,big ben,peyton,brady, etc. If you don't,your team will be inconsistent in making the playoffs. Even if the qb needs a yr to develop, if he has franchise qb skills,you can't pass him for a rt or de.
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Picking only the BPA is a recipe for disaster in the 1st few rounds, and I don't think any team really does this unless they are so stacked at all positions it doesn't matter. And, in this day and age, with all of the cap concerns, I don't think you'll see many stacked teams, if any. Seattle and SF may be the closest. All teams pick the BPA at a position of need. It's the only thing that makes sense. If your team is desperate for OLB's but the BPA is a WR and you are "stacked" at that position, do you get the WR or the BPA at OLB? I know there's a lot more to it than that and a lot of things can come into play, but basically teams, especially in the 1st 3 rds, will go for the BPA at a position of need. That's why Willis fell past #10.

Now, about the QB position. I personally don't see a QB in this class like Luck, Manning, Elway, etc... You may get lucky and find a Brady in the later rounds but I just don't see it yet. As for a small school QB to develop, the kid from Eastern Illinois may turn out to be pretty good. He's rated a 3rd rounder by NFLDraftScout.com right now but could be moving up draft boards. If he's there in the 3rd for the Texans, I have no problem with them taking him. If he moves into the 1st round talk, well I don't know yet. We still have to find out what Case can do. If Case shows bad in the last few games then QB could become a higher priority. And, the risk will go up on the pick. If the kid is there and he's the BPA at a position of need, take him!
 
Insideop said:
Picking only the BPA is a recipe for disaster in the 1st few rounds, and I don't think any team really does this unless they are so stacked at all positions it doesn't matter. And, in this day and age, with all of the cap concerns, I don't think you'll see many stacked teams, if any. Seattle and SF may be the closest. All teams pick the BPA at a position of need. It's the only thing that makes sense. If your team is desperate for OLB's but the BPA is a WR and you are "stacked" at that position, do you get the WR or the BPA at OLB? I know there's a lot more to it than that and a lot of things can come into play, but badsically teams, especially in the 1st 3 rds, will go for the BPA at a position of need. That's why Willis fell past #10.

Now, about the QB position. I personally don't see a QB in this class like Luck, Manning, Elway, etc... You may get lucky and find a Brady in the later rounds but I just don't see it yet. As for a small school QB to develop, the kid from Eastern Illinois may turn out to be pretty good. He's rated a 3rd rounder by NFLDraftScout.com right now but could be moving up draft boards. If he's there in the 3rd for the Texans, I have no problem with them taking him. If he moves into the 1st round talk, well I don't know yet. We still have to find out what Case can do. If Case shows bad in the last few games then QB could become a higher priority. And, the risk will go up on the pick. If the kid is there and he's the BPA at a position of need, take him!
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The flaw in you're thinking which may or may not be like the texans is the reason the texans are sucking right now and have passed on elite talent. A draft board is stacked vertical and horizontal. As players come off the board, you slide the bar. You always take the best player availible. Passing on wilis who was the bpa because you needed a dt and they had demeco was a mistake. They could've played willis at wolb like derrick brooks. You always take the bpa on your board regardless of position. You never have enough high end football players.

Back to this qb discussion, you may not see a manning,elway,or a guy of that ilk. I'm as big of luck fan as anyone,but he's not on that level either. My question is, do you see flacco,eli,big ben,tanneyhill,kaepernick, type of talent? What I mean by that are guys with elith elite tools, who can play elite with coaching. I see a few of those guys and if you see one,you have to take him imo. Not only that, you have to take him early also. I see mariotta,boyd,hundley,and even manziel as guys with elite skills. Its possible,but its rare to find guys with elite skills at the qb position late in the draft. Late in the game, you need a guy with elite skills.
 
Picking for need leads to reaching on some picks, but picking BPA that aligns with need is probably the best move.
 
bhsman said:
Picking for need leads to reaching on some picks, but picking BPA that aligns with need is probably the best move.
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When your scouts do their job right,that's how it stacks up. When the patriot drafted mallett ,that was bpa. Kareem Jackson vs Dez Bryant wasn't even need vs bpa,that was just dumb.
 
Insideop said:
Picking only the BPA is a recipe for disaster in the 1st few rounds,
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Now, imagine, if you will, what would the Texans roster look like if they had taken the BPA instead of reaching for a need.

Contrary to your arguments, the better teams more often go with the BPA and those teams that are not more often go with their biggest need.
 
Texian said:
Now, imagine, if you will, what would the Texans roster look like if they had taken the BPA instead of reaching for a need.

Contrary to your arguments, the better teams more often go with the BPA and those teams that are not more often go with their biggest need.
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Yep! Unless you have an elite qb and you're drafting high enough to take one is the only way you pass one. That probably don't happen because when yoi have an elite guy at qb, you're probably not drafting high unless that guy missed the yr with injury. Big ben,eli,and now flacco are getting their teams off the carpet and will be closer to .500 vs 4 wins.
 
Picking for need leads to reaching on some picks, but picking BPA that aligns with need is probably the best move.
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Thanks. This is what I was trying to say, and it's what most NFL teams do. Even the teams that are fairly well stacked have weaknesses that they will try to fill with BPA. How many think the Pats won't take a WR or TE within the 1st 2 rounds this coming draft?
 
Texian said:
Now, imagine, if you will, what would the Texans roster look like if they had taken the BPA instead of reaching for a need.

Contrary to your arguments, the better teams more often go with the BPA and those teams that are not more often go with their biggest need.
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The Texans had a pretty good roster 2 years ago with a lot of talent, whether you can admit it or not. Now, because of the cap, we've lost a lot of those players and unfortunately don't have the depth anymore to weather the injury bug. Is that the fault of coaches and/or the GM, ultimately yes, and they will probably pay with their jobs. But the team was built picking the BPA at a position of need. Of course, if a team has no needs, they will just pick the BPA. But, how many of those teams are out there?

Here's an example of how a good team goes with the BPA at a position of need:

Baltimore Ravens won the Super Bowl. They let Ed reed go and Ray Lewis retired. They need a Safety and a LBer. Guess what Ozzie (who's considered one of the best) the GM picks? Matt Elam, Safety from Florida, and, knowing the Texans were going to pick Arthur Brown, a LBer, at #57. They traded up to get him at #56. Now, was that picking for need or BPA?
 
Insideop said:
The Texans had a pretty good roster 2 years ago with a lot of talent, whether you can admit it or not. Now, because of the cap, we've lost a lot of those players and unfortunately don't have the depth anymore to weather the injury bug. Is that the fault of coaches and/or the GM, ultimately yes, and they will probably pay with their jobs. But the team was built picking the BPA at a position of need. Of course, if a team has no needs, they will just pick the BPA. But, how many of those teams are out there?

Here's an example of how a good team goes with the BPA at a position of need:

Baltimore Ravens won the Super Bowl. They let Ed reed go and Ray Lewis retired. They need a Safety and a LBer. Guess what Ozzie (who's considered one of the best) the GM picks? Matt Elam, Safety from Florida, and, knowing the Texans were going to pick Arthur Brown, a LBer, at #57. They traded up to get him at #56. Now, was that picking for need or BPA?
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You're making a lot of assumptions with the whole deal. They signed huff, wouldn't that fill the need? They also signed smith and dumervill before the draft,so why wouldn't they pass on aurthur brown? Not to mention you have no earthly idea as to where brown was on the texans board. If the texans felt that great about brown,they could've moved up with that extra 3rd rd pick to get him.
 
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