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LSU receiver Kayshon Boutte does an about-face, declares for NFL draft
LSU receiver Kayshon Boutte announced earlier this month he was returning to the school for another season. The Tigers released a statement earlier this week that Boutte wouldn’t play in the Jan. 2 Citrus Bowl against Purdue, adding that Boutte is enrolled for the spring semester.

On Wednesday night, Boutte posted a simple Twitter message: “After careful thoughts and consideration, I will be declaring for the 2023 NFL draft.”
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badboy said:
The athletic, a good source, often puts up a paywall but for some articles it allows the reader to scroll down the article. Unfortunately this one does not.
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JB said:
Can you copy & paste?
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A few thoughts from The Athletic draft analyst Nick Baumgardner on the updated consensus board:

• I’ll have no issue with anyone who keeps Bijan Robinson in their top 10 throughout this entire process, even if it doesn’t feel likely Robinson will hear his name called that early. (It’s possible, though.)

However, when it comes to wide receivers, it feels like the Big Board is a bit eager. While I don’t really mind Quentin Johnston being one spot ahead of Jordan Addison — personally, I would reverse it — I do think they’re both too high overall, at 9 and 10, respectively. That range doesn’t feel likely in this draft. It’s not going to be a surprise this year to see teams wait on receivers, be it those two or Jaxon Smith-Njigba. There are a bunch of really good prospects here but not any slam-dunk superstars, and that’s not going to change as the draft approaches.

We might not see a receiver go in the top 15 this year. We might not see one go in the top 20. (Addison came off the board first in Dane Brugler’s most recent mock, right at No. 20.) I would, however, take Zay Flowers at his current No. 55 slot and sleep very well at night, or A.T. Perry around pick 99 and sleep even better. Patience, once again, will pay off for teams in the WR market.

• On the other side of things, the board is probably still too low on the corners, specifically Oregon’s Christian Gonzalez and Illinois’ Devon Witherspoon. Gonzalez was No. 40 on our initial consensus board in November, and he’ll likely be higher than No. 17 after he runs this spring. In terms of pure movement skills in coverage, Gonzalez is CB1 in this class. There are questions with his game, however, as is the case with every corner on this list.

• Not sure how else to say this one, but there are not 46 prospects in America better than Darnell Washington. So, apologies to all you dreamers out there who were hoping to snag him a few picks into Day 2 without any trouble.

Tight end is always difficult to project because the position is viewed differently in different corners of the league. However, one thing is true: Everyone is coming around on the idea of having an elite player at that position who can be a dominant run blocker and an impossible cover. Washington’s not a perfect prospect, but he’s a physical unicorn.

• In a similar vein: Lukas Van Ness should not be behind 49 other names here. A 6-5, 275-pounder, Van Ness is the type of full-package edge who doesn’t have to come off the field. He can bring an impact versus both the run and pass — he was a top-20 run defender nationally (per Pro Football Focus) among starting edges last year and was top 25 in pressures.
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AcresHomesTexan said:
theathletic.com

2023 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board 2.0: Which prospects crack the top 100?

Will Anderson Jr., remains the top-ranked player on our Consensus Big Board, but there's been some shuffling in the spots behind him.
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Consensus Top-100 Big Board (Jan. 25)
PLAYERPOS.SCHOOLAVG. RANK
1Will Anderson Jr.EDGEAlabama1.7
2Jalen CarterDTGeorgia2.8
3Bryce YoungQBAlabama3.7
4C.J. StroudQBOhio State4.8
5Myles MurphyEDGEClemson5.5
6Bijan RobinsonRBTexas9.3
7Michael MayerTENotre Dame12.8
8Quentin JohnstonWRTCU13.6
9Peter SkoronskiOTNorthwestern13.9
10Paris Johnson Jr.OTOhio State15.8
11Jordan AddisonWRUSC16.3
12Tyree WilsonEDGETexas Tech16.3
13Joey Porter Jr.CBPenn State17.8
14Cam SmithCBSouth Carolina18.3
15Jaxon Smith-NjigbaWROhio State18.8
16Bryan BreseeDTClemson19.8
17Christian GonzalezCBOregon21.3
18Kelee RingoCBGeorgia23.3
19Will LevisQBKentucky23.3
20Brian BranchCBAlabama24.4
21Isaiah FoskeyEDGENotre Dame26.0
22Trenton SimpsonOLBClemson28.2
23Jahmyr GibbsRBAlabama28.5
24Broderick JonesOTGeorgia32.7
25Antonio JohnsonSTexas A&M32.7
26Anthony RichardsonQBFlorida37.2
27BJ OjulariEDGELSU37.2
28Anton HarrisonOTOklahoma37.8
29Felix Anudike-UzomahEDGEKansas State38.6
30Siaki IkaDTBaylor40.6
31O'Cyrus TorrenceOGFlorida41.5
32Noah SewellILBOregon43.1
33Clark Phillips IIICBUtah43.8
34Josh DownsWRNorth Carolina44.2
35Nolan SmithEDGEGeorgia45.3
36Devon WitherspoonCBIllinois46.8
37Gervon DexterDTFlorida48.0
38Andre Carter IIEDGEArmy48.6
39Dalton KincaidTEUtah49.4
40Drew SandersILBArkansas49.8
41Emmanuel ForbesCBMississippi State51.1
42Jaylin HyattWRTennessee54.3
43Jordan BattleSAlabama55.6
44John Michael SchmitzOCMinnesota57.0
45Rashee RiceWRSMU57.7
46Dawand JonesOTOhio State58.1
47Darnell WashingtonTEGeorgia59.8
48Zay FlowersWRSBoston College61.7
49Tuli TuipulotuDTUSC61.9
50Lukas Van NessDTIowa62.6
51Kayshon BoutteWRLSU62.8
52Henry To'o To'oILBAlabama63.4
53Will McDonald IVEDGEIowa State63.7
54Cody MauchOTNorth Dakota State63.8
55Garrett WilliamsCBSyracuse66.3
56Jaelyn DuncanOTMaryland66.3
57Mazi SmithDTMichigan66.4
58Zach HarrisonEDGEOhio State67.5
59Eli RicksCBAlabama68.9
60Luke MusgraveTEOregon State69.5
61Tanner McKeeQBStanford69.5
62J.L. SkinnerSBoise State69.6
63Darnell WrightOTTennessee69.9
64Andrew VorheesOGUSC70.2
65Derick HallEDGEAuburn70.7
66Devon AchaneRBTexas A&M70.9
67Zach CharbonnetRBUCLA73.3
68Christopher SmithSGeorgia73.6
69Blake FreelandOTBYU73.7
70Cedric TillmanWRTennessee73.8
71Jaylon JonesCBTexas A&M74.3
72Hendon HookerQBTennessee74.4
73Zach EvansRBOle Miss75.4
74Jack CampbellILBIowa75.5
75Matthew BergeronOTSyracuse76.3
76Brandon JosephSNotre Dame77.6
77Tre'Vius Hodges-TomlinsonCBTCU78.6
78Calijah KanceyDTPitt79.0
79Kyu Blu KellyCBStanford79.3
80Jarrett PattersonOGNotre Dame79.7
81Sean TuckerRBSyracuse80.5
82Zacch PickensDTSouth Carolina81.4
83Marvin MimsWROklahoma81.6
84Sam LaPortaTEIowa82.8
85DJ TurnerCBMichigan83.1
86Tucker KraftTESouth Dakota State83.4
87Parker WashingtonWRPenn State83.6
88DeMarvion OvershownOLBTexas84.0
89Daiyan HenleyLBWashington State84.3
90Jaquelin RoyDTLSU84.4
91Byron YoungDTAlabama86.6
92Tank BigsbyRBAuburn86.6
93Dontayvion WicksWRVirginia87.3
94Tyler SteenOTAlabama87.4
95Xavier HutchinsonWRIowa State89.4
96Keion WhiteDTGeorgia Tech90.1
97Nathaniel DellWRSHouston90.2
98Rakim JarrettWRMaryland90.2
99Rashad Torrence IISFlorida90.3
100Mekhi GarnerCBLSU90.8
 
Man, I miss Gosselin's Top 100. The Friday before the draft was the only day I ever bought the Dallas Morning News (back when the draft was a Saturday-Sunday event). 10 straight years of being the most accurate Top 100.

Not sure if he still does one, but his website has some really good look backs at previous players scouting reports:
https://rickgosselin.com/draft-review-ed-reed/

There are some wild observations in some of them, but it also illustrates how imprecise of a science scouting is.

For fun, here is what was said about Andre Johnson:
Here are comments on Johnson from 8 talent evaluators leading up to his 2005 NFL draft:

Scout: Tremendous explosion. At that size, height and weight he’s faster than Bo Jackson.

Scout II: My No. 1 WR. He’s bigger than Rogers and plays bigger in the big games.

Scout III: His drops are a concern.

Wide receiver coach: Not a natural catcher. Double catches and body catches. It’s almost like he’s trying to squeeze the air out of the ball. That can be corrected. He’s a big guy that can move.

Personnel director: How do you walk away from a guy 6-2, 225 that runs a 4.3? But I still need to be convinced on his hands.

Personnel director II: I wish I could see what others are seeing in him. I don’t know where it’s coming from.

General manager: Special.

General manager II: Like him better than Charles Rogers. He’s the best receiver in the draft and looks like a man among boys. I hope the Lions take Rogers because I don’t want to have to play against this kid.
https://rickgosselin.com/draft-review-andre-johnson/
 
Errant Hothy said:
Man, I miss Gosselin's Top 100. The Friday before the draft was the only day I ever bought the Dallas Morning News (back when the draft was a Saturday-Sunday event). 10 straight years of being the most accurate Top 100.

Not sure if he still does one, but his website has some really good look backs at previous players scouting reports:
https://rickgosselin.com/draft-review-ed-reed/

There are some wild observations in some of them, but it also illustrates how imprecise of a science scouting is.

For fun, here is what was said about Andre Johnson:
Here are comments on Johnson from 8 talent evaluators leading up to his 2005 NFL draft:

Scout: Tremendous explosion. At that size, height and weight he’s faster than Bo Jackson.

Scout II: My No. 1 WR. He’s bigger than Rogers and plays bigger in the big games.

Scout III: His drops are a concern.

Wide receiver coach: Not a natural catcher. Double catches and body catches. It’s almost like he’s trying to squeeze the air out of the ball. That can be corrected. He’s a big guy that can move.

Personnel director: How do you walk away from a guy 6-2, 225 that runs a 4.3? But I still need to be convinced on his hands.

Personnel director II: I wish I could see what others are seeing in him. I don’t know where it’s coming from.

General manager: Special.

General manager II: Like him better than Charles Rogers. He’s the best receiver in the draft and looks like a man among boys. I hope the Lions take Rogers because I don’t want to have to play against this kid.
https://rickgosselin.com/draft-review-andre-johnson/
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Yeah, catches can be corrected.
Just look at AJ's rookie and sophomore seasons.
 
JB said:
No way is Bijan worth 1.2 and I love the kid
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You could do worse than picking Bijan at 1-12/Boutte at 2-32 and one of Washington/Musgrave/Kinkaid/Kraft at the bottom of the 2nd or top of the 3rd.
 
steelbtexan said:
You could do worse than picking Bijan at 1-12/Boutte at 2-32 and one of Washington/Musgrave/Kinkaid/Kraft at the bottom of the 2nd or top of the 3rd.
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I don't know why you bother to quote me to talk about something completely different
 
JB said:
I don't know why you bother to quote me to talk about something completely different
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I'm talking about Bijan (Which was part of your post and the other guys I listed as being elite playmakers. The Texans certainly need play makers. Bijan is the best playmaker in this draft. IMHO
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm talking about Bijan (Which was part of your post and the other guys I listed as being elite playmakers. The Texans certainly need play makers. Bijan is the best playmaker in this draft. IMHO
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I said 1.2 was too early. So you talked maybe okay at 1.12
 
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NFL DRAFT 2023 - Draft Board

Our former NFL personnel evaluators provide their expertise and insight on the prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft from the perspective of those who have been in team draft rooms. These are only the rankings of players they have scouted personally. New prospects are added frequently. Click on a...
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What stood out to me is the leap up the charts into the top 10 by Tyree Wilson and Myles Murphy falling out of the top 10. Lots of other changes as well requiring a rethink of who will be there for the Texans' top three rounds of picks.
 
Number19 said:
What stood out to me is the leap up the charts into the top 10 by Tyree Wilson and Myles Murphy falling out of the top 10. Lots of other changes as well requiring a rethink of who will be there for the Texans' top three rounds of picks.
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Yeah this happens every year after the underwear Olympics.
The main thing is to be mindful of the hype and keep the game tape first and foremost.
 
Number19 said:
What stood out to me is the leap up the charts into the top 10 by Tyree Wilson and Myles Murphy falling out of the top 10. Lots of other changes as well requiring a rethink of who will be there for the Texans' top three rounds of picks.
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I believe OLB- Tyree Wilson played out of position in Texas Tech's 3-4 Defense. Which ever team decides Wilson is their guy should be running a 4-3 base scheme and park him at DE where his size, strength, and speed would be better served.
 
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