Ben Tate Says We're "wishy-washy"

[Uncle Rico]

Kubiak went "all in" when he pulled a non-injured Keenum. It didn't pay off and all the whining and wailing by the players over a dumb decision getting booed is directly related.

Ultimately, the fan 'sentiment' is EXACTLY what gets Kubiak canned.

That's a positive change I can believe in.

Until the next coach and batch of players piss the bed. Revolving door. So many grumpy people, maybe McNair should pack up and head to LA, then some of you might be able to find peace again.

 

[dalemurphy]

There is nothing that makes winning less likely than putting Matt Schuab in at QB. That is an act that you are defending. You can say the outcome was still undecided, but the outcome when Schaub is in (this year more than any other) is bleak at best. Booing the offense did less to help lose the game than Schaub being unable to lead a TD drive when it mattered most. The last throw in the endzone was the triple coverage. Defend Schaub and Kubiaks decision to play him all you want. I've seen enough to know for sure that Schaub is not a good QB. Now I want to see if Keenum can get the job done so the team can prepare for next season.

But, schaub was in the game... That was out of the fans control... So, at that point, does the team have a better chance of winning if the crowd is quiet on offense and disruptive when Oakland is on offense? Of course! But fans cared more about expressing their anger at Matt schaub than the texans winning that game.

I am not making a judgment on that, other than to highlight the hypocrisy of those who act like winning is all that matters.

In 2005, I was booing in the stands and cared more about organizational change than about the texans winning. So, I get that... Just don't bookend that behavior with diatribes about winning being more important than character and about being entitled to root for a championship team. Nobody is "entitled" as a spectator for that outcome... And certainly not those people that actively work against the winning interest of the team as they did on Sunday.

 

[dalemurphy]

Until the next coach and batch of players piss the bed. Revolving door. So many grumpy people, maybe McNair should pack up and head to LA, then some of you might be able to find peace again.

I know! They act as if Kubiak's failures are malicious and pointed attacks against them.

Then, I'm called a Kubiak apologist for reminding them that he is human and is not involved in a conspiracy to ruin their Sundays.

 

[Rey]

Ironic, though, that the same fans who assert that the only thing that matters as fans is that their team wins are the same ones engaging in (or defending) an action that made winning less likely. Booing the offense in the fourth quarter when the game is still undecided defeats the very thing that is supposedly so important to you.

That's weak dale.

You're not living in reality. Fans want a successful team. We want to see competent people in charge making good decisions. That's what you're paying for.

Everyone knows this season is toast. So the future is now what this is all about. Schaub has no future here. I want the team to win, but I don't want them to jeorpardizevthe future in order to do it given the current state of this team.

And put yourself in the stadium at that moment. No one knows kubiak's bull **** reason for going to Schaub yet. He hasn't spoken to the media. Kubiak made comments about how Schaub was pushing to start again. There are probably quite a few people there just to see what keenum is doing. And then you pull him and trot Schaub out. It looks like kubiak is pulling keenum and inserting Schaub as the guy again. That is where the boos came from. The season just became even more pointless.

Let's be real here. Most fans probably would rather lose with keenum than win with Schaub at this point. Really the only people still defending the organization are people like yourself that swore up and down that these guys were the answer.

 

[dalemurphy]

That's weak dale.

You're not living in reality. Fans want a successful team. We want to see competent people in charge making good decisions. That's what you're paying for.

Everyone knows this season is toast. So the future is now what this is all about. Schaub has no future here. I want the team to win, but I don't want them to jeorpardizevthe future in order to do it given the current state of this team.

And put yourself in the stadium at that moment. No one knows kubiak's bull **** reason for going to Schaub yet. He hasn't spoken to the media. Kubiak made comments about how Schaub was pushing to start again. There are probably quite a few people there just to see what keenum is doing. And then you pull him and trot Schaub out. It looks like kubiak is pulling keenum and inserting Schaub as the guy again. That is where the boos came from. The season just became even more pointless.

Let's be real here. Most fans probably would rather lose with keenum than win with Schaub at this point. Really the only people still defending the organization are people like yourself that swore up and down that these guys were the answer.

I get it. However, I am a fan too. I also want to see keenum play. I know the season is toast, but I understood the move as an effort to try and win that game... Not some silly conspiracy.

I haven't sworn up and down that these guys were the answer in years. I have asserted that I like them and disagreed with the idea that they couldn't win, which is not the same. I have been honest about Kubiak's limitations and the coaching issues that get exposed against the better coaches.

 

[chicagotexan2]

But, schaub was in the game... That was out of the fans control... So, at that point, does the team have a better chance of winning if the crowd is quiet on offense and disruptive when Oakland is on offense? Of course! But fans cared more about expressing their anger at Matt schaub than the texans winning that game.

I am not making a judgment on that, other than to highlight the hypocrisy of those who act like winning is all that matters.

In 2005, I was booing in the stands and cared more about organizational change than about the texans winning. So, I get that... Just don't bookend that behavior with diatribes about winning being more important than character and about being entitled to root for a championship team. Nobody is "entitled" as a spectator for that outcome... And certainly not those people that actively work against the winning interest of the team as they did on Sunday.

The Texans gets booed and get harsher treatment when they are on the road. That doesn't help them either, but sometime they manage to overcome that and sometimes score TD's. Why shouldn't they be able to overcome a booing crowd? Schaub didn't lead them to any TD's. And when it came time to win the game Schaub threw into triple coverage. Schaub is not a good QB and he should not have been put in the game especially since his recent play was far worse compared to Keenums bad play.

 

[Rey]

Until the next coach and batch of players piss the bed. Revolving door. So many grumpy people, maybe McNair should pack up and head to LA, then some of you might be able to find peace again.

I know! They act as if Kubiak's failures are malicious and pointed attacks against them.

Then, I'm called a Kubiak apologist for reminding them that he is human and is not involved in a conspiracy to ruin their Sundays.

People come here to vent and discuss the team. But for some reason there is a segment of people that are hell bent on putting the fans in their place for daring to be disgruntled with a poor product.

You are a kubiak and Schaub apologist. You've already admitted that so I'm not even sure why you'd bring that up.

 

[Uncle Rico]

People come here to vent and discuss the team. But for some reason there is a segment of people that are hell bent on putting the fans in their place for daring to be disgruntled with a poor product.

You are a kubiak and Schaub apologist. You've already admitted that so I'm not even sure why you'd bring that up.

Ok we can nitpick and name call til the cows come home what does it solve? This thread was about fan behavior proper or not and it nosedived into selfish 'what about me' paragraphs and rhetoric.

Your argument that you pay to have a competent team is bogus too. You pay for the entertainment aspect, if you feel you aren't getting your moneys worth then stop attending and watching simple as that. Ganging up on Tate or OD for having normal human emotions is ridiculous. Whatever happened to the home field advantage?

 

[Trail.Blazr]

This thread is wishy-washy.

Players don't like getting boo'd. who would?

fans get tired of cheering for ineptness. who wouldn't?

It's a perfect storm. Both sides can find common ground in that Losing SUCKS!

For players to try and find the good or bad in the fans behavior is a misplaced focus on resolving their own situation. At 2-9, I'll speculate that nobody on the team thinks the booing is the biggest problem on the team. But it does burn. I feel sorry for them, actually. But that's why they get paid the big bucks. Entertainers are ALWAYS a target of critics. Comes with the job. Don't like it, let your feet do the talking.... or WIN!

 

[chicagotexan2]

Ok we can nitpick and name call til the cows come home what does it solve? This thread was about fan behavior proper or not and it nosedived into selfish 'what about me' paragraphs and rhetoric.

Your argument that you pay to have a competent team is bogus too. You pay for the entertainment aspect, if you feel you aren't getting your moneys worth then stop attending and watching simple as that. Ganging up on Tate or OD for having normal human emotions is ridiculous. Whatever happened to the home field advantage?

Players can be critical just as the fans can be critical. From there we discuss the merit. If you don't like it I guess you should join or form a message board called TexansLove.com like you suggested Bob McNiar take the team to LA.

 

[Double Barrel]

In 2005, I was booing in the stands and cared more about organizational change than about the texans winning.

Dale, your credibility is poop when you say the above but try to claim the below:

Booing the offense in the fourth quarter when the game is still undecided defeats the very thing that is supposedly so important to you.

You have mastered the art of talking out of both ends at the same time.

 

[disaacks3]

Until the next coach and batch of players piss the bed. Revolving door. So many grumpy people, maybe McNair should pack up and head to LA, then some of you might be able to find peace again.

The "grumpy people" are his millionaire players who've lost 8 in a row.

Fans took unbrage with these whiny players who got butt-hurt when we booed a poor coaching decision and acted as if the fans had anything to do with their dismal performance.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Players can be critical just as the fans can be critical. From there we discuss the merit. If you don't like it I guess you should join or form a message board called TexansLove.com like you suggested Bob McNiar take the team to LA.

Better yet ill just buy the parking lot outside of the stadium and charge to have people come and BBQ and get ****ed up since that's all they really want to do I'd make millions. Criminy the team had ti install a damn loud as hell fog horn to let the fans know 'ok guys its gametime, let's come inside and cheer the home team on'

People got mad when they got called out because the truth hurt, no big deal human emotions work like that, same way when you stick a mic in a guys face after a loss and expect him to recite Nietzsche.

 

[Trail.Blazr]

The "grumpy people" are his millionaire players who've lost 8 in a row.

Fans took unbrage with these whiny players who got butt-hurt when we booed a poor coaching decision and acted as if the fans had anything to do with their dismal performance.

MSR... Pretty much a translation of my post. I'm sure those grumpy people are losing sleep over us fans... just sayin. I'd bet a player would get a HUGE LOL out of this thread.

 

[Uncle Rico]

The "grumpy people" are his millionaire players who've lost 8 in a row.

Fans took unbrage with these whiny players who got butt-hurt when we booed a poor coaching decision and acted as if the fans had anything to do with their dismal performance.

So is that why people are mad? Because they get paid millions and guys like me and you get 60k?

Fans can boo that's a given, but Tate only spoke the truth! So then he should have just said 'yeah it was great the fans boo'd us into a false start the last play of the game, we live that and we love our fans'. <wink> with a sparkle in his smile. I appreciate his candor.

 

[Double Barrel]

The "grumpy people" are his millionaire players who've lost 8 in a row.

Fans took unbrage with these whiny players who got butt-hurt when we booed a poor coaching decision and acted as if the fans had anything to do with their dismal performance.

yep. And I'd bet the Head Grump in Charge is the grumpiest of all seeing an on-going 8 game losing streak and thousands of his loyal paying customers expressing dissatisfaction at his coach's dysfunctional decision making process.

Putting Schaub out there was merely re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Mr. White]

In 2005, I was booing in the stands and cared more about organizational change than about the texans winning.

Do you think it might stand to reason that the boos might mean that the fans at Reliant saw enough at that point and wanted organizational change as well?

 

[Rey]

Your argument that you pay to have a competent team is bogus too. You pay for the entertainment aspect, if you feel you aren't getting your moneys worth then stop attending and watching simple as that.

I will stop watching and have turned games off and sold my season tickets. What does that have to do with fans at the game booing? They are showing displeasure with the product they have paid for.

. Ganging up on Tate or OD for having normal human emotions is ridiculous.

So you're here to protect them? poor Tate and OD. Uncle Rico is gonna protect you guys.

Please. You wanna talk about bogus.

And why is it ok for Tate and OD to show "normal human emotions", but not the fans?

 

[Rey]

So is that why people are mad? Because they get paid millions and guys like me and you get 60k?

Fans can boo that's a given, but Tate only spoke the truth! So then he should have just said 'yeah it was great the fans boo'd us into a false start the last play of the game, we live that and we love our fans'. <wink> with a sparkle in his smile. I appreciate his candor.

How about, "I understand why the fans booed..they have the right to do that....but at the same time it makes it harder on us on offense"

That's a better statement IMO. But Tate doesn't understand why the fans booed. He doesn't get it and he admitted as much on the radio yesterday morning.

 

[chicagotexan2]

So is that why people are mad? Because they get paid millions and guys like me and you get 60k?

Fans can boo that's a given, but Tate only spoke the truth! So then he should have just said 'yeah it was great the fans boo'd us into a false start the last play of the game, we live that and we love our fans'. <wink> with a sparkle in his smile. I appreciate his candor.

No he should have said 'yeah it was great the fans boo'd us into a false start the last play of the game because our lousy QB threw the ball short of the goal line AGAIN then on his second chance to win the game on the very last play he threw the ball into triple coverage AGAIN, we love that and we love our fans and our lousy Schaub'. <wink> with a sparkle in his smile. I appreciate his candor

 

[Trail.Blazr]

So is that why people are mad? Because they get paid millions and guys like me and you get 60k?

Fans can boo that's a given, but Tate only spoke the truth! So then he should have just said 'yeah it was great the fans boo'd us into a false start the last play of the game, we live that and we love our fans'. <wink> with a sparkle in his smile. I appreciate his candor.

As Tate grows up, he'll likely learn that being right isn't always right. Fans aren't mad that he gets paid bank. The bank reference is a reality check that as a "Paid Entertainer/Performer" there's going to be some criticism when you stink up the joint. Although, some nut huggers, like yourself will find it intolerable, the TRUTH is it's inevitable that poor performance will warrant criticism.

I wouldn't want to speculate as to what has fans "mad" as you put it. For me I take no offense by his comment. But objectively, I see his comment, while true, having little bearing on the root of his frustration and certainly not a vessel in which to right the ship. To stand on a soap box and whine about how booing fans suck, truth or fiction, when you are 2-8 is petty and can only bring on further backlash.

 

[Uncle Rico]

I will stop watching and have turned games off and sold my season tickets. What does that have to do with fans at the game booing? They are showing displeasure with the product they have paid for.





So you're here to protect them? poor Tate and OD. Uncle Rico is gonna protect you guys.

Please. You wanna talk about bogus.

And why is it ok for Tate and OD to show "normal human emotions", but not the fans?

Just because people buy tix and merch it doesnt give them a right to act like jerks. I'm not going to affect my way of life over a game, that's what I'm saying. If players are subject to criticism then why can't the fans? Oh that's right they are immune and can do no wrong.

 

[Uncle Rico]

No he should have said 'yeah it was great the fans boo'd us into a false start the last play of the game because our lousy QB threw the ball short of the goal line AGAIN then on his second chance to win the game on the very last play he threw the ball into triple coverage AGAIN, we love that and we love our fans and our lousy Schaub'. <wink> with a sparkle in his smile. I appreciate his candor

Golf clap. Nice.

 

[Uncle Rico]

As Tate grows up, he'll likely learn that being right isn't always right. Fans aren't mad that he gets paid bank. The bank reference is a reality check that as a "Paid Entertainer/Performer" there's going to be some criticism when you stink up the joint. Although, some nut huggers, like yourself will find it intolerable, the TRUTH is it's inevitable that poor performance will warrant criticism.

I wouldn't want to speculate as to what has fans "mad" as you put it. For me I take no offense by his comment. But objectively, I see his comment, while true, having little bearing on the root of his frustration and certainly not a vessel in which to right the ship. To stand on a soap box and whine about how booing fans suck, truth or fiction, when you are 2-8 is petty and can only bring on further backlash.

So well versed and yet you need to name call to make a point? Run along child recess is almost over, come back when you learn how to have an adult conversation.

 

[Trail.Blazr]

So well versed and yet you need to name call to make a point? Run along child recess is almost over, come back when you learn how to have an adult conversation.

If you are suggesting you are NOT a nut-hugger, then I apologize for confusing you as such. Apparently perception overshadowed reality.

The day a $hit Disturber calls me out as being child-like... lol

Go on back to your stirring...

 

[Rey]

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Just because people buy tix and merch it doesnt give them a right to act like jerks. I'm not going to affect my way of life over a game, that's what I'm saying. If players are subject to criticism then why can't the fans? Oh that's right they are immune and can do no wrong.

Just in case you didn't know, part of the noise was people cheering as well. OD didn't feel like people should have been cheering when Schaub came in either.

And you're smart enough to figure out the difference between fabs criticizing players and players criticizing fans. Let's be real here.

No player is going to be fine with any form of criticism.

I don't even care about Tate and OD really. I even get how they feel. But the one thing that is slightly annoying in a message board kind of way, is fans who attack other fans for venting frustrations of a 2-8 team that has botched so many things.

 

[amazing80]

So well versed and yet you need to name call to make a point? Run along child recess is almost over, come back when you learn how to have an adult conversation.

so tate can run his mouth but the fans cant yell or boo at the players? looks like someone spiked your

 

[TheMatrix31]

so tate can run his mouth but the fans cant yell or boo at the players? looks like someone spiked your

They can boo them all they want, just not when the offense is in the middle of conducting a play because that's dumb and no other team's fans do that.


But again, I'm not shocked that people here don't understand that.

 

[jaayteetx]

They can boo them all they want, just not when the offense is in the middle of conducting a play because that's dumb and no other team's fans do that.


But again, I'm not shocked that people here don't understand that.

I call BS, lots of other teams fans would boo that crappy move if placed in the same situation.

 

[Uncle Rico]

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Just in case you didn't know, part of the noise was people cheering as well. OD didn't feel like people should have been cheering when Schaub came in either.

And you're smart enough to figure out the difference between fabs criticizing players and players criticizing fans. Let's be real here.

No player is going to be fine with any form of criticism.

I don't even care about Tate and OD really. I even get how they feel. But the one thing that is slightly annoying in a message board kind of way, is fans who attack other fans for venting frustrations of a 2-8 team that has botched so many things.

Respect. You're entitled to your opinions. I wasn't trying to demean or degrade anybody I just felt this surge of negativity and felt it needed balancThis season has been a huge dissapointment for all parties involved and I'm pretty sure as the fans have reached their breaking point so have the players I mean look at what happened at the end of the game. It sucks, royally but as a fanbase there are times and places to pick your battles and the last few plays of a winnable game we should help our boys out, if the object is to win regardless of who's out there.

 

[htowntexans1985]

They can boo them all they want, just not when the offense is in the middle of conducting a play because that's dumb and no other team's fans do that.


But again, I'm not shocked that people here don't understand that.

No other team's fans boo their offense???? Lmmfao!!!! Awesome.

 

[Dutchrudder]

They can boo them all they want, just not when the offense is in the middle of conducting a play because that's dumb and no other team's fans do that.


But again, I'm not shocked that people here don't understand that.

It's really not that uncommon, this article is about the 2010 season:

After the Chicago Bears lost their sixth straight game to the Green Bay Packers in their historic rivalry on Sunday, Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher wasn't too happy with the hometown crowd.
"The boos were really loud, which is always nice," Urlacher said. "The only team in our division that gets booed at home is us. ... It's unbelievable to me."

I'm not sure if he is right about the Bears being the only team getting booed in the NFC North, as I'm pretty sure I have heard some booing from fans in Detroit and Minnesota directed toward their teams in the past.

But I do think Urlacher has a point in criticizing fans about booing their home team. It seems to be getting a little out of hand.

Yes, fans pay good money to watch their team play and have every right to boo if they want to. But when you put all your energy into booing the team you supposedly love, what do you have left for the opposing team?

In places such as Philadelphia this season, the booing of the Eagles has seemed to turn the team's home-field advantage into a disadvantage. It's like many fans are so determined to express their frustration with the Eagles that they forget another team is on the field. It's fine to be frustrated, but I think the visitors should be the most-hated team on the field.

At least Eagles fans have a reason to boo their team loudly this season. The team is 4-10 and has looked pretty pathetic in what looks to be Andy Reid's final season in Philadelphia. But throughout much of the past decade, when the Eagles were making deep runs in the playoffs nearly every season, booing Donovan McNabb after every incompletion didn't make much sense.

The home booing trend has gotten so bad that Kansas City Chiefs fans actually cheered as their quarterback Matt Cassel laid on the ground with a head injury during a game earlier this season. The fans' reaction set off a post-game rant from Chiefs tackle Eric Winston, who said in it "we've got a lot of problems as a society if people think that's OK."

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/brian_urlacher_has_a_point_hom.html

People don't want to pay to see their team be complete crap, and the best way for them to voice their displeasure is to boo at the game. The next best way is to not buy tickets or not show up for the game. For some, it is a bit too late for option 2.

 

[Uncle Rico]

It's really not that uncommon, this article is about the 2010 season:



http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/brian_urlacher_has_a_point_hom.html

People don't want to pay to see their team be complete crap, and the best way for them to voice their displeasure is to boo at the game. The next best way is to not buy tickets or not show up for the game. For some, it is a bit too late for option 2.

That article validates both sides of the argument. Boo all you want that is your prerogative, but at appropriate times. Missed a field goal boo. Didn't convert 3rd down boo. Get run over for an 80 yard TD boo. 4th and 2 from the 4 yard line? Yeahh let's wait til they botch it at least.

 

[Double Barrel]

It's really not that uncommon, this article is about the 2010 season:



http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/brian_urlacher_has_a_point_hom.html

People don't want to pay to see their team be complete crap, and the best way for them to voice their displeasure is to boo at the game. The next best way is to not buy tickets or not show up for the game. For some, it is a bit too late for option 2.

Good article find. I have Googled the subject, as well, and booing has become rather common across the league. Even teams like this year's Broncos and Patriots, both led by future HoF QBs and certain of playoff spots, are getting booed.

Pointing at Houston fans like it is exclusive is either agenda driven or the product of media blinders. In no way is it objective to act like Houston is the only place that it has happened.

As for your last point, I do wonder if their is a direct correlation in the rise of PSLs and booing. Point being that in the past, people would not renew season tickets as sign of disgust for a bad product. However, with PSLs, there is a "investment incentive" that they do not want to lose the initial costs just to buy the seats. So they are stuck buying the season tickets year in / year out, and as a result the only way to show displeasure is to get liquored up and be vocal about it.

I'm not one to boo my own team. That said, I'm not going to get on my high horse and act like I am superior to everyone else.

I understand the disgust of fans.

And I understand the perspective of players.

The ones I just don't get are the fans who have nothing better to do than bag on other fans, especially when they exhibit a superiority complex displayed through lame insults and generalized assumptions. And we got it the first time you wrote it, so writing it again and again in multiple posts serves no purpose than to create a straw man diversion from the big issues with this franchise.

 

[jaayteetx]

That article validates both sides of the argument. Boo all you want that is your prerogative, but at appropriate times. Missed a field goal boo. Didn't convert 3rd down boo. Get run over for an 80 yard TD boo. 4th and 2 from the 4 yard line? Yeahh let's wait til they botch it at least.

That's the thing, as soon as you put Schaub back in, that's exactly what you've done...botched it...big time.

 

[Uncle Rico]

That's the thing, as soon as you put Schaub back in, that's exactly what you've done...botched it...big time.

And I get that angle, but if you win last Sunday you're only 2 wins out of the wild card race, is winning not what everyone wants? Schaub is persona non grata in these parts, but at some point you just have to roll with the punches. I was as shocked as the next guy to see Don Flamenco trot out there with his fake mean mug, but the fan in me took over and said "ok, that's crazy but how worse can it get" and apparently for some the sky fell.

 

[TheMatrix31]

Listen, booing your home team is very common. That's not the objection.

The objection is booing WHILE the team is on the field trying to execute a play.

 

[Say Watt]

Listen, booing your home team is very common. That's not the objection.

The objection is booing WHILE the team is on the field trying to execute a play.

Ever heard of emotion? The booing was a response to Gary Kubiak giving the finger to all the fans in the building that at least had something to cheer for with Case on the field.

DB already touched on it but in an effort to show displeasure with an organization, we the fans have two options: boo or quit buying tickets. In the age of PSLs, no longer buying the ticket only hurts the true fan, not the organization. With the waiting list for season tickets right now, you'd be a fool to give up season tickets at this point.

Yes, ideally the fans would have waiting until AFTER the offense was off the field. But if they did that, then how is the team supposed to know WHAT EXACTLY the fans are booing?!? If it's after the offense goes off the field, they could be booing the whole offense, the defense coming on the field, the special teams, or any number of scenarios. Fans booing when they did sent the message that needed to be sent: we are sick of Matt Schaub and barring injury, do not want to see him step foot on the field again in a Texans uniform. Period.

 

[TheMatrix31]

They could boo between plays then. Once they get to the LOS, they need to shut the **** up. I'm pretty sure management will know why the boos are coming down regardless.

And if it's about sending a message, then don't cheer when plays are successful. In fact, silence all around would be preferable. Indifference is powerful.

 

[Say Watt]

They could boo between plays then. Once they get to the LOS, they need to shut the **** up. I'm pretty sure management will know why the boos are coming down regardless.

We will simply have to agree to disagree here. People responded immediately with their disgust. No one cares at this point if they can call their stupid offensive plays that just lead to another 3 and out or a pick 6. The team is 2-8. They are one of the worst teams in the NFL. If this had happened 3-4 games ago, I might be inclined to agree with you. At this point, the team and the players need to shut the hell up and start taking responsibility for their own suckitude instead of ALWAYS blaming someone else.

And if it's about sending a message, then don't cheer when plays are successful. In fact, silence all around would be preferable. Indifference is powerful.

I could get down with that. It'd be pretty awesome if Schaub had thrown a TD and the whole crowd was silent.

 

[Say Watt]

On another note, I really can't wait until Tate packs his **** and gets the hell out of town. This comment was idiotic by him, but my bigger problem is his continued obsession with Auburn. I follow a lot of athletes on facebook and Twitter, and NONE of them have the obsession with their college team that Tate does with Auburn. I can't remember the last time Tate had anything to say about the team that is actually paying him millions of dollars to miss more games than he has played. Cushing occasionally mentions USC, but he has A LOT more to say about the Texans and his team. Tate has always seemed like the kind of guy to me that just doesn't really give a ****.

 

[TheMatrix31]

What if the boos hindered their ability to execute the plays properly and that's why some of them didn't work leading to three points?

As for Tate, I agree. Never really saw the big fuss about him. Good player no doubt, but expendable.

 

[Double Barrel]

Listen, booing your home team is very common. That's not the objection.

The objection is booing WHILE the team is on the field trying to execute a play.

I understand your distinction. Any other season that does not have an 8 game losing streak, I would be disgusted, as well.

This is not a stupid fan base. I have been to many games, including playoff games, where the fan collective knew exactly when to be noisy and when to be quiet.

And because of that, I think the fans sent a clear message to Bob McNair with the boos at that specific time in the game. There is only ONE reason why fans acted that way.

The offense already had three drives that were 3-and-outs to start the second half. No boos when it happened. It's not like fans were just randomly booing a bad product. They were not consistently booing the offense prior to no. 8 trotting out there.

This was a clear message to McNair from his paying customers. He knows this fan base does not regularly make noise when our offense is on the field. He knows that 99% of the time the boos are for opposing teams. And he knows this is a loyal city that desperately wants a winning football team.

I understand your overall point. But, I'm giving a pass to the fans on this one. These are extraordinary circumstances to see a 12-4 playoff team go 2-8 and look like one of the worst teams in the league. Dysfunction is rampant, discontent is spreading like a virus, and the winds of rebellion against status quo are turning into hurricane force storms.

 

[SchaubApologist]

They could boo between plays then. Once they get to the LOS, they need to shut the **** up. I'm pretty sure management will know why the boos are coming down regardless.

And if it's about sending a message, then don't cheer when plays are successful. In fact, silence all around would be preferable. Indifference is powerful.

lol who are you?.... the boo police?

 

[Rey]

You guys realize part of the noise problem was people cheering trying to drown out the boos right?

 

[YeaLikeRightNow]

lol who are you?.... the boo police?

We could all dress like Casper The Friendly Ghost and "Boo" for the full sixty minutes. Maybe then they'd understand.

 

[Thorn]

We could all dress like Casper The Friendly Ghost and "Boo" for the full sixty minutes. Maybe then they'd understand.

you want everyone to dress up in white sheets at the next game? That'll get their attention, that's for sure.

 

[dalemurphy]

Dale, your credibility is poop when you say the above but try to claim the below:



You have mastered the art of talking out of both ends at the same time.

Not true... I am not one of the fans that claim winning championshs are all that matter... I booed the2005 team because of poor effort and a dull product. Also, I did not do it when Carr was under center.

These guys scream about winning being everything and then undermine apt entail win.

 

[Rey]

lol who are you?.... the boo police?

Not true... I am not one of the fans that claim winning championshs are all that matter... I booed the2005 team because of poor effort and a dull product. Also, I did not do it when Carr was under center.

These guys scream about winning being everything and then undermine apt entail win.

Dale, are you seriously going to say you know why everyone in the stadium was booing?

And let's pretend you do...are you seriously going to say it's only ok when I boo under these specific circumstances?

Maybe you guys should get together and write the boo rules. Then get that to every texan fan so everyone is clear on when to boo?

 

[SchaubApologist]

We could all dress like Casper The Friendly Ghost and "Boo" for the full sixty minutes. Maybe then they'd understand.

haha, like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1XtsAdn2o