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Ben Tate RB Auburn- 2nd round selection

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Señor Stan;1419664 said:
Totally non football related reason I like this pick.

My 6 year old son's name is Benjamin Tate. He was pretty stoked to find out the Texans picked a guy with his name.
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Ha, that's pretty cool. You getting the jersey too?
 
RipTraxx said:
I know im probably way late but did anyone here rate Tate higher than Gerhart?
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Several of us had Tate as the second best fit for our offense, "one cut and go" after Ryan Mathews. others had the man love for Gerhart. Others want Dywer's stats. I think Tate is a perfect fit complementing Steve Slaton. One guy will get twelve carries. One guy will get six carries. Leach will get his one or two swing passes per game. One guy will be trying to climb out of the dog house with one or two touches each game. That's the way it's always been done here. and nothing is going to change. Hot hand during the weeks practice gets the start. Competition.

Save their legs for the December run.
 
threetoedpete said:
Several of us had Tate as the second best fit for our offense, "one cut and go" after Ryan Mathews. others had the man love for Gerhart. Others want Dywer's stats. I think Tate is a perfect fit complementing Steve Slaton. One guy will get twelve carries. One guy will get six carries. Leach will get his one or two swing passes per game. One guy will be trying to climb out of the dog house with one or two touches each game. That's the way it's always been done here. and nothing is going to change. Hot hand during the weeks practice gets the start. Competition.
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I would expect Casey's workload to increase this year as well. Line up at FB and get some passes thrown his way, maybe get some carries, and maybe line up at RB in the shotgun. I like his versatility.
 
WolverineFan said:
I would expect Casey's workload to increase this year as well. Line up at FB and get some passes thrown his way, maybe get some carries, and maybe line up at RB in the shotgun. I like his versatility.
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I think the selection of the new TE Garret Graham had much to do with this assumption both on your part and the coaches. IIRC the coaches stated that they did select Casey because of his versatility to play RB,FB, and long snapper as well but they were going to let him learn the TE position first so that he doesn't fall behind in learning the offense that way and he doesn't lose snaps at the TE position in practice.

Now that Graham is here and Casey has a season under his belt, Casey can go and practice at FB while the team doesn't lack the TE necessary to run for practice.

BTW, do any of you old Oiler fans like me think Ben Tate reminds you of a faster Lorenzo White? Just realized who he reminded me of when I realized his college number is 44.
 
El Tejano said:
I think the selection of the new TE Garret Graham had much to do with this assumption both on your part and the coaches. IIRC the coaches stated that they did select Casey because of his versatility to play RB,FB, and long snapper as well but they were going to let him learn the TE position first so that he doesn't fall behind in learning the offense that way and he doesn't lose snaps at the TE position in practice.

Now that Graham is here and Casey has a season under his belt, Casey can go and practice at FB while the team doesn't lack the TE necessary to run for practice.

BTW, do any of you old Oiler fans like me think Ben Tate reminds you of a faster Lorenzo White? Just realized who he reminded me of when I realized his college number is 44.
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Whenever we drafted him it was under the impression that he would be an H-Back type player, but he was forced into TE last year because of injuries. I think this year with more depth at the TE position we will get to see his real role in the offense.
 
WolverineFan said:
Whenever we drafted him it was under the impression that he would be an H-Back type player, but he was forced into TE last year because of injuries. I think this year with more depth at the TE position we will get to see his real role in the offense.
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I actually don't have a good feeling about the long-term viability of James Casey. Not after the draft we just had. With the exception of the 7th round pick of Dickerson, the other picks were 100% on-task in terms of drafting a RB who has been a full-time college RB; a cornerback who has been a full-time college CB, a defensive tackle who has been a full-time college DT, etc., etc.

Dickerson is going to be what James Casey was supposed to be: The guy you can shift around all over the line and be a hybrid form of TE/WR. Granted, it's a 7th round pick...the guy is raw...he is starting out low man on the totem pole. But we didn't make this pick in round 3 or 4 or 5. It was the last pick when nothing else is really there.

James Casey is a tweener, to me. He's not a full-fledged TE. He's not a true WR. He's awkward looking as a running back. I just don't think he's going to fit on the offense unless a lot of people get hurt. Dickerson is a guy they think can potentinally take a season or two and grow into the role of a true WR, supplanting any of the other WRs should they lose their mind (Jacoby) or get hurt (KW or DA) or leave (AJ).

James Casey just seems out of place. A very physical guy? Yes. But him and Connor Barwin represent, to me, perhaps the last Kubiak-Texans draft where we take lower round projects and try to adapt them to our system/style.

Dickerson (the 7th round choice) is the very last gasp for such a ploy to unearth a tweener and to somehow find him a home for his talents on this team. One last hurrah, so to say.

I was very surprised by the overall practicality of the draft choices. Did we get every need? No. In a draft, you might not get the guy(s) you really wanted...and thus you have to adjust and go get others that fill another need.
 
GP said:
I actually don't have a good feeling about the long-term viability of James Casey. Not after the draft we just had. With the exception of the 7th round pick of Dickerson, the other picks were 100% on-task in terms of drafting a RB who has been a full-time college RB; a cornerback who has been a full-time college CB, a defensive tackle who has been a full-time college DT, etc., etc.

Dickerson is going to be what James Casey was supposed to be: The guy you can shift around all over the line and be a hybrid form of TE/WR. Granted, it's a 7th round pick...the guy is raw...he is starting out low man on the totem pole. But we didn't make this pick in round 3 or 4 or 5. It was the last pick when nothing else is really there.

James Casey is a tweener, to me. He's not a full-fledged TE. He's not a true WR. He's awkward looking as a running back. I just don't think he's going to fit on the offense unless a lot of people get hurt. Dickerson is a guy they think can potentinally take a season or two and grow into the role of a true WR, supplanting any of the other WRs should they lose their mind (Jacoby) or get hurt (KW or DA) or leave (AJ).

James Casey just seems out of place. A very physical guy? Yes. But him and Connor Barwin represent, to me, perhaps the last Kubiak-Texans draft where we take lower round projects and try to adapt them to our system/style.

Dickerson (the 7th round choice) is the very last gasp for such a ploy to unearth a tweener and to somehow find him a home for his talents on this team. One last hurrah, so to say.

I was very surprised by the overall practicality of the draft choices. Did we get every need? No. In a draft, you might not get the guy(s) you really wanted...and thus you have to adjust and go get others that fill another need.
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This is a very well thought out post and I agree. I think Casey might just be a temporary fix until Dickerson is ready, which will take some time. Dickerson has a ton of athletic ability but he's very raw. Casey should be able to hold down that position for a year or two.

After that? Maybe Daniels gets traded and he becomes a backup TE or maybe he replaces Leach at FB. Maybe he makes big strides and becomes a starting TE. I don't really know. What I do know is this offense is very versatile and very dangerous. As long as Matt Schaub stays healthy the sky is the limit.

As for Barwin, I honestly think he will be a mainstay. He needs coaching and he needs time. If he can get bigger and stronger and learn the DE position then I think he might be able to replace Smith across from Mario. He needs work though, he is a project.
 
GP said:
I actually don't have a good feeling about the long-term viability of James Casey. Not after the draft we just had. With the exception of the 7th round pick of Dickerson, the other picks were 100% on-task in terms of drafting a RB who has been a full-time college RB; a cornerback who has been a full-time college CB, a defensive tackle who has been a full-time college DT, etc., etc.

Dickerson is going to be what James Casey was supposed to be: The guy you can shift around all over the line and be a hybrid form of TE/WR. Granted, it's a 7th round pick...the guy is raw...he is starting out low man on the totem pole. But we didn't make this pick in round 3 or 4 or 5. It was the last pick when nothing else is really there.

James Casey is a tweener, to me. He's not a full-fledged TE. He's not a true WR. He's awkward looking as a running back. I just don't think he's going to fit on the offense unless a lot of people get hurt. Dickerson is a guy they think can potentinally take a season or two and grow into the role of a true WR, supplanting any of the other WRs should they lose their mind (Jacoby) or get hurt (KW or DA) or leave (AJ).

James Casey just seems out of place. A very physical guy? Yes. But him and Connor Barwin represent, to me, perhaps the last Kubiak-Texans draft where we take lower round projects and try to adapt them to our system/style.

Dickerson (the 7th round choice) is the very last gasp for such a ploy to unearth a tweener and to somehow find him a home for his talents on this team. One last hurrah, so to say.

I was very surprised by the overall practicality of the draft choices. Did we get every need? No. In a draft, you might not get the guy(s) you really wanted...and thus you have to adjust and go get others that fill another need.
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To me, Casey is Dallas Clark and Dickerson is Colston. I don't see one as invalidating the other. They're both tools that will be used in different (although similar) ways. Dickerson is a big WR who can come down and block just like they do with KW. Casey is more of a second TE/FB coming out of the backfield guy.

They're both tweeners and they both could be useful slot guys but they're tweeners in different directions. Dickerson is between a WR and a TE while Casey is between a TE and a FB. Both of them are attempts to create special packages that create matchup problems; especially when you add Holliday into the mix.

At least, that's how it looks to me.
 
JB said:
Eugene will force an occasional fumble and will come up with an occasional interception... just he is likely to fumble the interception...lol
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You are trying to get my blood pressure up just like that game did huh?
 
threetoedpete said:
Several of us had Tate as the second best fit for our offense, "one cut and go" after Ryan Mathews. others had the man love for Gerhart. Others want Dywer's stats. I think Tate is a perfect fit complementing Steve Slaton. One guy will get twelve carries. One guy will get six carries. Leach will get his one or two swing passes per game. One guy will be trying to climb out of the dog house with one or two touches each game. That's the way it's always been done here. and nothing is going to change. Hot hand during the weeks practice gets the start. Competition.

Save their legs for the December run.
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My compliments for using and spelling complementing correctly. It is refreshing to find someone on any board that can spell and use proper grammar. Props to you.
 
dalemurphy said:
Do you go to grammar message boards and talk football?
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Excuse me. Are you against using proper grammar and word usage? I was just complimenting the guy, not bitching at other people. Not many folks know the difference between compliment and complement.
 
krocket said:
Excuse me. Are you against using proper grammar and word usage? I was just complimenting the guy, not bitching at other people. Not many folks know the difference between compliment and complement.
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Originally these two spellings were used interchangeably, but they have come to be distinguished from each other in modern times. Most of the time the word people intend is “compliment": nice things said about someone ("She paid me the compliment of admiring the way I shined my shoes.”). “Complement,” much less common, has a number of meanings associated with matching or completing. Complements supplement each other, each adding something the others lack, so we can say that “Alice’s love for entertaining and Mike’s love for washing dishes complement each other.” Remember, if you’re not making nice to someone, the word is “complement.”

A complement can also be the full number of something needed to make it complete: “my computer has a full complement of video-editing programs.” If it is preceded by “full” the word you want is almost certainly “complement.”
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It says here that the spellings were used interchangeably until sombody decided it was wrong. I guess they must have thought that having two words that are interchangeable was very complementary and in an effort to create a more competitive spirit they pitted the words against each other.

Seems like semanticis to me.


Oh, and when you say:
krocket said:
Are you against using proper grammar and word usage? I was just complimenting the guy, not bitching at other people.
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Are you being ironic because this suggests that you might want to rethink this whole grammer complimenting thing you've got going on. Bitching isn't a word. Well, I suppose it is a "modern" word, but then again so is differentiating between compliment and complement.
 
barrett said:
It says here that the spellings were used interchangeably until sombody(sic) decided it was wrong. I guess they must have thought that having two words that are interchangeable was very complementary and in an effort to create a more competitive spirit they pitted the words against each other.

Seems like semanticis(sic) to me.


Oh, and when you say:

Are you being ironic because this suggests that you might want to rethink this whole grammer(sic) complimenting thing you've got going on. Bitching isn't a word. Well, I suppose it is a "modern" word, but then again so is differentiating between compliment and complement.
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I am sure you must have had a point to this post. I seems rather vague to me. Could you site your source on the difference in the two words. BTW mine was dictionary.com.

Oh, and bitching is a word, maybe slang but a word never-the-less: –verb (used without object) 5. Slang . to complain; gripe: They bitched about the service, then about the bill.

Whatever your reason for this post and dalemurphy's is I can't figure it out. You are chewing me out for complimenting someone?

Haven't you got your values somewhat skewed out of place? I don't particularly care for people that go around criticizing other people's grammar and I don't do it myself. BTW we have a built-in spell checker, you ought to use it :)
 
krocket said:
I am sure you must have had a point to this post. I seems rather vague to me. Could you site your source on the difference in the two words. BTW mine was dictionary.com.

Oh, and bitching is a word, maybe slang but a word never-the-less: –verb (used without object) 5. Slang . to complain; gripe: They bitched about the service, then about the bill.

Whatever your reason for this post and dalemurphy's is I can't figure it out. You are chewing me out for complimenting someone?

Haven't you got your values somewhat skewed out of place? I don't particularly care for people that go around criticizing other people's grammar and I don't do it myself. BTW we have a built-in spell checker, you ought to use it :)
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Oh look, the Grammar & Definition Police typed "site" when he should have typed "cite".....LOL, doofus. :photos:

link: It's "cite", troll boy, not "site"

I wish you would just talk in your native tongue, which is Troll.

We really need a TexansTalk Message Board Etiquette 101 class before people are allowed to post on here.

BTW, Troll Face...here's what "etiquette" means:

et·i·quette 

–noun

1.conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.

I got this off dictionary.com (since you love to go there so much). Perhaps you should talk football instead of trying to trash people out over misspellings or grammatical errors. This ain't English class, homey.
 
infantrycak said:
OK folks let's not go overboard. He didn't insult anyone and hasn't earned being called a troll.
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Ben Tate is going to be the main running back. No doubts about it.

Tate and Foster, with Slaton and Moats on the outside looking in.
 
GP said:
Oh look, the Grammar & Definition Police typed "site" when he should have typed "cite".....LOL, doofus. :photos:

link: It's "cite", troll boy, not "site"

I wish you would just talk in your native tongue, which is Troll.

We really need a TexansTalk Message Board Etiquette 101 class before people are allowed to post on here.

BTW, Troll Face...here's what "etiquette" means:

et·i·quette 

–noun

1.conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.

I got this off dictionary.com (since you love to go there so much). Perhaps you should talk football instead of trying to trash people out over misspellings or grammatical errors. This ain't English class, homey.
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Geez, this guy got jumped on reaaaaaaal quick...
 
buddyboy said:
Geez, this guy got jumped on reaaaaaaal quick...
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Yes, but to ensure no one gets offended, the moderators must insure the rules are followed.

Hey! Looky there! another two words that mean the same thing and sound alike but ar spelled differently! Hope I didn't offend you!
 
Beer and Metal said:
Yes, but to ensure no one gets offended, the moderators must insure the rules are followed.

Hey! Looky there! another two words that mean the same thing and sound alike but ar spelled differently! Hope I didn't offend you!
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It's all cause and affect....errrr....effect...errr...yeah.
 
There are times I log on to TT and wonder WHY I bothered!! Even the most educated members of this board have made grammatical errors!! What happened to the day when we could just post for FUN, be casual, and not have to worry about proof reading every sentence we write, or making sure we make good use of spell check! Those of you who feel it is your resp to critique every post that is written need to back off a little, and remember, NO ONE IS PERFECT!! This is a FOOTBALL MB, and should be fun!! People should be able to post their opinions without worrying about the grammar police!! JMO!!
 
SheTexan said:
There are times I log on to TT and wonder WHY I bothered!! Even the most educated members of this board have made grammatical errors!! What happened to the day when we could just post for FUN, be casual, and not have to worry about proof reading every sentence we write, or making sure we make good use of spell check! Those of you who feel it is your resp to critique every post that is written need to back off a little, and remember, NO ONE IS PERFECT!! This is a FOOTBALL MB, and should be fun!! People should be able to post their opinions without worrying about the grammar police!! JMO!!
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dam strate :choke:
 
SheTexan said:
There are times I log on to TT and wonder WHY I bothered!! Even the most educated members of this board have made grammatical errors!! What happened to the day when we could just post for FUN, be casual, and not have to worry about proof reading every sentence we write, or making sure we make good use of spell check! Those of you who feel it is your resp to critique every post that is written need to back off a little, and remember, NO ONE IS PERFECT!! This is a FOOTBALL MB, and should be fun!! People should be able to post their opinions without worrying about the grammar police!! JMO!!
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That would be great and all except this was grammar applause. Seems to me the anti-grammar police are the ones with their knickers bunched.
 
I'm cool with errors except for getting the names of the players incorrect. ie Daniel Owens, Steve Slayton etc...
 
infantrycak said:
That would be great and all except this was grammar applause. Seems to me the anti-grammar police are the ones with their knickers bunched.
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Exactly. Nothing more annoying than a guy who thinks he's smarter than the rest of the world and points out their mistakes.

This guy was simply commending someone for their good grammar, I don't see how that should make him the target of abuse and being called "troll".
 
El Tejano said:
I'm cool with errors except for getting the names of the players incorrect. ie Daniel Owens, Steve Slayton etc...
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+1.

Kevin Walters gets old too.

kevin-walter.jpg
 
krocket said:
I am sure you must have had a point to this post. I seems rather vague to me. Could you site your source on the difference in the two words. BTW mine was dictionary.com.

Oh, and bitching is a word, maybe slang but a word never-the-less: –verb (used without object) 5. Slang . to complain; gripe: They bitched about the service, then about the bill.

Whatever your reason for this post and dalemurphy's is I can't figure it out. You are chewing me out for complimenting someone?

Haven't you got your values somewhat skewed out of place? I don't particularly care for people that go around criticizing other people's grammar and I don't do it myself. BTW we have a built-in spell checker, you ought to use it :)
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No, let's beat a dead horse. This post was rediculous.

I think using Ben Tate to ware down defenses for three courters would create bigger lanes in the forth so we can stick in Trindon Holliday for big ganes. It would be benifishal for our aneemic rushing numbers.
 
Brisco_County said:
No, let's beat a dead horse. This post was rediculous.

I think using Ben Tate to ware down defenses for three courters would create bigger lanes in the forth so we can stick in Trindon Holliday for big ganes. It would be benifishal for our aneemic rushing numbers.
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LOL!! BTW: Lub da DOG in ur abitar!!:nicedog::winky:
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Is this a quote from slatonisabeast or somethin'!? :headhurts:
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I don't mind his grammer, its his sentence structure. It gets really old to read a hodge podge of information i like when people know how to form sentences and paragraphs one time i got a severe migrain trying to shuffle through his work do you know what i mean glad you understand this rant back to your regularly scheduled topic
 
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