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I can think of a few Texans who are looking forward to knocking the piss out of that rookie Mathews when we play the Chargers for talking like that :)

I WAS a huge fan of Mathews, but now he is the enemy!!! Don't mess with Texas rookie!!!
 
m5kwatts said:
Does Mr. Mathews know the only team actually worse than us running the ball was San Diego?
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Probably, but he can't exactly take a huge steaming dump on the team that just made him a millionaire.

Personally if I were a highly touted RB prospect I wouldn't want to go to a team with a poor run blocking O-line and a pass happy offense. That isn't even counting the Houston RB injury curse.
 
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TexCanada said:
And Leach is probably not a good guy to pick a fight with lol
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Thats what I thought lol

Why hasn't Tate picked his # yet? Kareem got his the day he was drafted. Is Tate on a flight to Houston? I remember last year they got Barwin to Houston within hours of drafting him.
 
I think Matthews comment about Houston was referring to he thought he would get drafted earlier. He was scared he would last until 20, which would cost him millions of dollars. I doubt it had anything to do with the city
 
gtexan02 said:
I think Matthews comment about Houston was referring to he thought he would get drafted earlier. He was scared he would last until 20, which would cost him millions of dollars. I doubt it had anything to do with the city
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he will have to same thoughts come the week before(and on the day) NOV 7th

:evil:
 
m5kwatts said:
Thats what I thought lol

Why hasn't Tate picked his # yet? Kareem got his the day he was drafted. Is Tate on a flight to Houston? I remember last year they got Barwin to Houston within hours of drafting him.
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Tate came in last night. He is probably trying to buy the number from Leach
 
gtexan02 said:
I think Matthews comment about Houston was referring to he thought he would get drafted earlier. He was scared he would last until 20, which would cost him millions of dollars. I doubt it had anything to do with the city
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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/23/trading-up-for-rb-ryan-mathews-right-move-for-chargers/
A Chargers fan, Mathews had heard that the Texans would draft him 20th. Then came the happy jolt from the Bolts.

"All the talk about Houston and stuff, it really started to scare me and everything," Mathews said. "I'm lucky and blessed that (the Chargers) traded up and picked me. I'm super-excited. It's mind-blowing that they did that."
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It just sounds like he wanted to be a Charger. He grew up rooting for them, so it makes sense. It doesn't sound like he had anything against Houston.
 
Excellent. Size and speed = power runner, if not aggressive. Maybe he's not seeking contact but he runs with force. Don't know how I feel about the chance to have Gerhart but I think he needs a little more of the power blocking than the Texans do.

Slate and Tate. Nice.

A hopefully healthy Slaton with a hungry Foster and what seems like a good pick in Tate and I'd say the RB situation looks waaaaay better than last year. Did they just address RB with a high round pick?
 
TimeKiller said:
Excellent. Size and speed = power runner, if not aggressive. Maybe he's not seeking contact but he runs with force. Don't know how I feel about the chance to have Gerhart but I think he needs a little more of the power blocking than the Texans do.

Slate and Tate. Nice.

A hopefully healthy Slaton with a hungry Foster and what seems like a good pick in Tate and I'd say the RB situation looks waaaaay better than last year. Did they just address RB with a high round pick?
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Yep! Shocking News! Couldn't be done they said. Kubiak will never spend a high draft pick on a RB they said. Wtf?
 
man when i watched the video of him getting drafted i could feel the emotions coming from this guy, hes gonna be an awesome player, cant wait
 
JB said:
Yep! Shocking News! Couldn't be done they said. Kubiak will never spend a high draft pick on a RB they said. Wtf?
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Well, Kubiak's ass is on the line THIS season. When your back is to the wall, you tend to deviate from the standard operating procedure a bit.

This was a no-nonsense draft by Smithiak.

Cornerback in round 1, and he actually fits the bill IMO. Kicked Dunta to the curb (a year too late, but hey...what's $9.6 million for one year juuuust to make sure? LOL.) and established that we WILL put out better CBs than what we did in the past.

A running back in round 2? Hey, that's not a knock on us guys who ragged the old late-rounder or UDFA diamond-in-the-rough system that had been employed for the past four years. It's a knock on Kubiak.

A mammoth gap-shooting DT in round 3? Yep, because they all know that Amobi has to reach a new level this year or plug in someone to do the job. Let's face it, we don't give a damn about how Amobi is "just now the age of someone who is coming out of college." At this point, he's had s-e-v-e-r-a-l seasons in the NFL and annual NFL experience is not helping him. Maybe a 3rd round draft choice pushing him for playing time will.

Took some TEs (in draft AND in free agency), took a TE converted to a WR, and took a return specialist. Grabbed a backup LB who can also be a destroyer on special teams. All guys look like they could perform Day 1 for us.

And just to let off some steam, and regain some of his old self...we nabbed a CSU player! For Kubiak, that must have been like smoking a cigarette after sex.

Kubiak and Smith had a really good draft, IMO. And they gonna' need it!
 
New_Texans said:
well....pollard was a 2nd rounder.
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For the Chiefs. That clearly doesn't count....


Face it. At some point a valuable resource is going to need to be spent to address the gigantic damn hole at FS. Wilson is the starter? I guess by default but not for any other reason. They didn't even TRY to draft a safety. I guess Troy Nolan is coming back...Dominque Barber :fart noise: Busing :juicy fart noise: Ferguson :old fart noise:
 
TimeKiller said:
For the Chiefs. That clearly doesn't count....


Face it. At some point a valuable resource is going to need to be spent to address the gigantic damn hole at FS. Wilson is the starter? I guess by default but not for any other reason. They didn't even TRY to draft a safety. I guess Troy Nolan is coming back...Dominque Barber :fart noise: Busing :juicy fart noise: Ferguson :old fart noise:
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Its not a gigantic hole, Wilson--when healthy--is very serviceable. I wanted Johnson from Utah but oh well we didn't get him, we did get a CB in the first that looks good and additional defensive depth. Also, what if none of the FS available aren't any better than the current people there. Barber is going into his 3rd season, he should have his feet under him and he should be able to make more plays now. Don't get too upset about it...then again, i am an optimist.
 
GP said:
Well, Kubiak's ass is on the line THIS season. When your back is to the wall, you tend to deviate from the standard operating procedure a bit.

This was a no-nonsense draft by Smithiak.

Cornerback in round 1, and he actually fits the bill IMO. Kicked Dunta to the curb (a year too late, but hey...what's $9.6 million for one year juuuust to make sure? LOL.) and established that we WILL put out better CBs than what we did in the past.

A running back in round 2? Hey, that's not a knock on us guys who ragged the old late-rounder or UDFA diamond-in-the-rough system that had been employed for the past four years. It's a knock on Kubiak.

A mammoth gap-shooting DT in round 3? Yep, because they all know that Amobi has to reach a new level this year or plug in someone to do the job. Let's face it, we don't give a damn about how Amobi is "just now the age of someone who is coming out of college." At this point, he's had s-e-v-e-r-a-l seasons in the NFL and annual NFL experience is not helping him. Maybe a 3rd round draft choice pushing him for playing time will.

Took some TEs (in draft AND in free agency), took a TE converted to a WR, and took a return specialist. Grabbed a backup LB who can also be a destroyer on special teams. All guys look like they could perform Day 1 for us.

And just to let off some steam, and regain some of his old self...we nabbed a CSU player! For Kubiak, that must have been like smoking a cigarette after sex.

Kubiak and Smith had a really good draft, IMO. And they gonna' need it!
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Maybe this is exactly what Kubiak and Smith needed. A "back against the wall" type of year. Hopefully, after our success this season, they don't revert back to mediocrity and keep that same intensity year in and year out.
 
TimeKiller said:
For the Chiefs. That clearly doesn't count....


Face it. At some point a valuable resource is going to need to be spent to address the gigantic damn hole at FS. Wilson is the starter? I guess by default but not for any other reason. They didn't even TRY to draft a safety. I guess Troy Nolan is coming back...Dominque Barber :fart noise: Busing :juicy fart noise: Ferguson :old fart noise:
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I think they feel Pollard is enough of a stabilizing force that they could put off FS until next year's draft.

In fairness to Smithiak, whom I have dealt out a whole lot of criticism for in the recent past, they couldn't address every single need we have.

We chose a CB in round 1 and RB in round 2. Round 3 was the swing round, where after we took the mammoth DT. I know people say this draft was deep, but after two rounds...you've seen approximately 64 of the top players go off the board. "Value" is now relative to what's left to be had in rounds 3-7.

I see Jackson and Tate as being the two no-miss guys who have skills and will be helping out in big ways. Mitchell the DT is a guy who comes in on a rotational basis and has fresh legs on big downs when we need him most.

Past that, IMO, no matter what position we draft...it's hit or miss for the most part. Anything productive after round 3 is gravy. Gonna' be a few hits; gonna' be a few misses. That's how it rolls.

I think our CBs, our LBs, and our SS can mask the weakness of our FS. And that DL better step it up and contribute more than they have. To me, they just had a wake-up call. As in "Next year we just might start drafting YOUR replacements..."
 
TimeKiller said:
For the Chiefs. That clearly doesn't count....


Face it. At some point a valuable resource is going to need to be spent to address the gigantic damn hole at FS. Wilson is the starter? I guess by default but not for any other reason. They didn't even TRY to draft a safety. I guess Troy Nolan is coming back...Dominque Barber :fart noise: Busing :juicy fart noise: Ferguson :old fart noise:
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barber played pretty well at the end of last season imo. the rest i agree on.plus i have high hopes for troy nolan
 
GP said:
Well, Kubiak's ass is on the line THIS season. When your back is to the wall, you tend to deviate from the standard operating procedure a bit.

This was a no-nonsense draft by Smithiak.

Cornerback in round 1, and he actually fits the bill IMO. Kicked Dunta to the curb (a year too late, but hey...what's $9.6 million for one year juuuust to make sure? LOL.) and established that we WILL put out better CBs than what we did in the past.

A running back in round 2? Hey, that's not a knock on us guys who ragged the old late-rounder or UDFA diamond-in-the-rough system that had been employed for the past four years. It's a knock on Kubiak.

A mammoth gap-shooting DT in round 3? Yep, because they all know that Amobi has to reach a new level this year or plug in someone to do the job. Let's face it, we don't give a damn about how Amobi is "just now the age of someone who is coming out of college." At this point, he's had s-e-v-e-r-a-l seasons in the NFL and annual NFL experience is not helping him. Maybe a 3rd round draft choice pushing him for playing time will.

Took some TEs (in draft AND in free agency), took a TE converted to a WR, and took a return specialist. Grabbed a backup LB who can also be a destroyer on special teams. All guys look like they could perform Day 1 for us.

And just to let off some steam, and regain some of his old self...we nabbed a CSU player! For Kubiak, that must have been like smoking a cigarette after sex.

Kubiak and Smith had a really good draft, IMO. And they gonna' need it!
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Mammoth tackle? I dunno about that. From the film looks like a gap shooting DT not sure I'd call him mammoth though. I reserve terms like that for the T. Cody's of the world.

New_Texans said:
Its not a gigantic hole, Wilson--when healthy--is very serviceable. I wanted Johnson from Utah but oh well we didn't get him, we did get a CB in the first that looks good and additional defensive depth. Also, what if none of the FS available aren't any better than the current people there. Barber is going into his 3rd season, he should have his feet under him and he should be able to make more plays now. Don't get too upset about it...then again, i am an optimist.
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Key phrase: when healthy. He hasn't seen a full healthy season in a while and even then I don't get the calls for VERY serviceable or above average. He's serviceable at best.

Guess we're left to hoping something gets made out of Troy Nolan and Barber turns it up a notch if called on. :kitten:

RipTraxx said:
I know im probably way late but did anyone here rate Tate higher than Gerhart?
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I did. But, the board seems split on who is going to be the better pro.

IMO Tate fits what the Texas are looking for in a back better.
 
Goldensilence said:
I did. But, the board seems split on who is going to be the better pro.

IMO Tate fits what the Texas are looking for in a back better.
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Exactly. Gerhart will get the pub because he will be playing for a surefire Super Bowl contender (maybe the favorite in 2010) and if Brett comes back. Plus, they have a stud line up there for him to run behind.

But Tate is certainly the better fit here. Don't listen to Richard Justice (who thinks VY would make a great RB here) or John McClain (who says we should have taken Gerhart because it would give us "national attention") or the casual ESPN watcher who thinks Gerhart is better because that's what they were told to think. He runs too upright (like Chris Brown) and is going to be hurt a lot in his NFL career, IMO.

Tate is going to fit here like a glove in this system.
 
Frak The Jags said:
Exactly. Gerhart will get the pub because he will be playing for a surefire Super Bowl contender (maybe the favorite in 2010) and if Brett comes back. Plus, they have a stud line up there for him to run behind.

But Tate is certainly the better fit here. Don't listen to Richard Justice (who thinks VY would make a great RB here) or John McClain (who says we should have taken Gerhart because it would give us "national attention") or the casual ESPN watcher who thinks Gerhart is better because that's what they were told to think. He runs too upright (like Chris Brown) and is going to be hurt a lot in his NFL career, IMO.

Tate is going to fit here like a glove in this system.
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I had Gerhart #1 in the 2nd and Ben #1 if we waited until the 3rd. Glad we didn't, he wouldn't have been there. With the present and possible future additions to the OL I think we're where GK wants this team to be. Capable of running when we need/want to. With all the other additions, I'm excited.
 
RipTraxx said:
I know im probably way late but did anyone here rate Tate higher than Gerhart?
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Yes. Several people.

WalterFootball had Tate as the 5th best running back and Gerhart as the 9th best. There were other sites that had similar rankings but there were other sites that had Tate much further back and Gerhart higher.

Personally, I wanted Tate in the 2nd round or Gerhart in the 3rd.

So. I'm happy.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Yes. Several people.

WalterFootball had Tate as the 5th best running back and Gerhart as the 9th best. There were other sites that had similar rankings but there were other sites that had Tate much further back and Gerhart higher.

Personally, I wanted Tate in the 2nd round or Gerhart in the 3rd.

So. I'm happy.
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Gerhart and Hardesty were the two RBs I wanted absolutely nothing to do with! Like Frak said earlier, Gerhart runs way too upright. Also, it looks to me that he really struggles to run laterally. He's fine for a team that will run lots of power stuff and some traps, but for us, he was a horrible fit.
 
During NFL Total Access just now Michael Lombardi just picked Ben Tate as his offensive rookie of the year and predicted he would gain 1500 yards. Had to rewind and listen again to confirm that number. Clinton Portis the sequel if thats the case.
 
With Tate/Slaton/Foster at RB I am confident that Kubiak will get his wish... a running game he can rely on.*

*Especially if we end up signing Faneca to solidify the interior OL.
 
Jackie Chiles said:
During NFL Total Access just now Michael Lombardi just picked Ben Tate as his offensive rookie of the year and predicted he would gain 1500 yards. Had to rewind and listen again to confirm that number. Clinton Portis the sequel if thats the case.
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Michael Lombardi said this? The Houston Texan bashing Michael Lombardi said this?

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uh oh... we must have picked the wrong guy. Michael Lombardi in NFLN just predicted that Tate would be the offensive RotY.

and Jason La Flora (sp?) just said that Tate would be one of the better fantasy pickup among this year's rookies

:facepalm:

I'm beginning to think that I liked it better when everyone ignored us
 
ObsiWan said:
uh oh... we must have picked the wrong guy. Michael Lombardi in NFLN just predicted that Tate would be the offensive RotY.

and Jason La Flora (sp?) just said that Tate would be one of the better fantasy pickup among this year's rookies

:facepalm:

I'm beginning to think that I liked it better when everyone ignored us
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Easy predictions to make, based almost entirely on the round he was drafted in and the situation he's coming into.
 
ChampionTexan said:
I tend to agree as it relates to the ORotY part, but when he went further and predicted 1500 yards, that's sticking your neck out a little bit.
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yeah, that basically says he thinks that Steve Slaton has lost his starting job
...and maybe, with the fumbling issue, he has
 
ChampionTexan said:
I tend to agree as it relates to the ORotY part, but when he went further and predicted 1500 yards, that's sticking your neck out a little bit.
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I don't think so. Slaton had 1,282 yards rushing his rookie season and he wasn't the starter out of camp. Whereas I believe Tate might be.

That said, I don't see it. If Steve is healthy, I see them splitting carries quite evenly.
 
Frak The Jags said:
I don't think so. Slaton had 1,282 yards rushing his rookie season and he wasn't the starter out of camp. Whereas I believe Tate might be.

That said, I don't see it. If Steve is healthy, I see them splitting carries quite evenly.
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1500 yards rushing would have made him the #2 rusher in the NFL last year. I consider that sort of prediction sticking your neck out.

And I agree with you, between what will hopefully be a RBBC situation (Slate and Tate), and the fact that we're still gonna be a passing team, I think it's possible for him to have a very good rookie year and still not come all that close.

If he can get us a yard or three when we need a yard or two, I'll be pretty happy with that alone.
 
Frak The Jags said:
I don't think so. Slaton had 1,282 yards rushing his rookie season and he wasn't the starter out of camp. Whereas I believe Tate might be.

That said, I don't see it. If Steve is healthy, I see them splitting carries quite evenly.
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I think that Ben will be the primary back out of TC and Slaton will the be the attack back.
 
ChampionTexan said:
1500 yards rushing would have made him the #2 rusher in the NFL last year. I consider that sort of prediction sticking your neck out.

And I agree with you, between what will hopefully be a RBBC situation (Slate and Tate), and the fact that we're still gonna be a passing team, I think it's possible for him to have a very good rookie year and still not come all that close.

If he can get us a yard or three when we need a yard or two, I'll be pretty happy with that alone.
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I agree. He won't be getting as many opportunities at Slaton did in 2008.
 
Frak The Jags said:
I agree. He won't be getting as many opportunities at Slaton did in 2008.
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I disagree, unless Foster shows really strong, I expect Ben to get most of the work early. I think they will be very cautious with Slaton. No neck surgery is minor, and I think they would prefer to use him at his best which is catching the ball out of the backfield.
 
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