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Bates, Pariani Offered Coordinator Contracts?
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Porky
Hall of Fame
From the article:
If Dennison can't get out of his contract, a Broncos official said not to rule out former Denver offensive line coach Alex Gibbs, who works as a consultant with Atlanta.
That would be incredible. Alex Gibbs is one of the best line coaches ever. I would be totally psyched. Dennison I know less about, but would seem to be a great second choice, and I would be pretty pumped about him as well.
If Dennison can't get out of his contract, a Broncos official said not to rule out former Denver offensive line coach Alex Gibbs, who works as a consultant with Atlanta.
That would be incredible. Alex Gibbs is one of the best line coaches ever. I would be totally psyched. Dennison I know less about, but would seem to be a great second choice, and I would be pretty pumped about him as well.
texan279
Hall of Fame
TEXANS84 said:
from KFFL
Rams | Bates may be too expensive
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:15:14 -0800
Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports it is looking more and more like former Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Jim Bates will not be the next defensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams, despite a contract offer in excess of $1 million a year from the team. After being unable to strike a deal despite what they feel is a lucrative offer, the Rams may back off trying to hire Bates.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
A different opinion on Bates as a DC:
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=120774
I think Bates will be an average DC, I'd have preferd Grey/Gray. I have concerens over Bates, mainly that he really has never thrown out a stellar D and that the rumors are he wants to be a HC, badly; so we may be searching for another DC soon if we hire Bates.
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=120774
I think Bates will be an average DC, I'd have preferd Grey/Gray. I have concerens over Bates, mainly that he really has never thrown out a stellar D and that the rumors are he wants to be a HC, badly; so we may be searching for another DC soon if we hire Bates.
justtxyank
Noob
Those are interesting comments
Jack Bauer
Rookie
Hoth-Boy said:
Great. More "Message Board GMs".
I thought the link was to someone who actually knew what they were talking about.results speak louder than fans on a messageboard who just got snubbed.
Bates results as a DC are undeniable. You can say "well look at how much we paid to bring in playmakers for him".. but Bates' success wasnt a 2 or 3 year thing.. he has had dominant defenses for the entirety of his career as a DC. Besides..they said that they allocated half of their cap towards defense.. well duh.. its half of your team.
Bates results as a DC are undeniable. You can say "well look at how much we paid to bring in playmakers for him".. but Bates' success wasnt a 2 or 3 year thing.. he has had dominant defenses for the entirety of his career as a DC. Besides..they said that they allocated half of their cap towards defense.. well duh.. its half of your team.
Glacier
Waterboy
beerlover said:
I believe so. With solid leadership in place that has a proven habit of being a winner, and Bates hired on on Defense, this team immediately is improved with out making a single move on the roster.
Good coaches enable players to become good players. Bad coaches ruin good players. I personally believe that the Texans have MUCH better talent than they are given credit for.
justtxyank
Noob
The only thing I found interesting on that board was the comments about his blitz schemes. As we've seen the past few years, a good blitz is important to rattle qbs.
SnakeOilTanker
Waterboy
plus he isnt Vic Fangio
FILO_girl
I'm not here
Still no word on Bates huh. Really hoping that since Kubiak is on board now, the hiring of his staff should be forthcoming rather quickly. Like, by the end of this week....I hope.
Is it normal to have this many staffing changes in the off season? Seems like half the NFL teams ran off their coaches and are drafting new blood. Retreads are everywhere, and trying to find work wherever they can find it.
Is it normal to have this many staffing changes in the off season? Seems like half the NFL teams ran off their coaches and are drafting new blood. Retreads are everywhere, and trying to find work wherever they can find it.
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
So we were talking about this a little bit a few days ago. There's still a coordinators thread up, but in the Chronicle John McClain wrote this:
Jim Bates will not be the defensive coordinator, and odds are against Kubiak succeeding in his plan to get Broncos offensive line coach Rick Dennison out of his contract.
I wish McClain would at least write "sources say" that Bates won't be coming here, but he doesn't. I tend to just forget about everything McClain writes now so I don't know if this article has any merit. I can see his point about Dennison because if Shananan wants him to stay he has no choice, but he doesn't support his Bates statement. Get with it McClain!
Jim Bates will not be the defensive coordinator, and odds are against Kubiak succeeding in his plan to get Broncos offensive line coach Rick Dennison out of his contract.
I wish McClain would at least write "sources say" that Bates won't be coming here, but he doesn't. I tend to just forget about everything McClain writes now so I don't know if this article has any merit. I can see his point about Dennison because if Shananan wants him to stay he has no choice, but he doesn't support his Bates statement. Get with it McClain!
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
outofhnd said:
I have no problem if we hire Gray. Either one would be fine by me. But why does McClain write that but doesn't support it? He just throws it out there. Maybe I'm just a McClain basher (like a lot of us) and just want to find something to criticize, but that sentence sounds fishy.
Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
I am fine with Gray and Bates for that matter. Both are quality coordinators, from what I have learned of them. I had hear that Shanahan would let Kubiak take a couple of assistants with him.
Either way, I suspect this will all be sorted out in the next couple of days.
Either way, I suspect this will all be sorted out in the next couple of days.
Over the years Kubiak has built his own set of contacts and he probably wants to call on them with the coaching positions. It's possible that Bates, Gray, and he haven't traveled in the same circles. We saw what happened when the HC and coordinator didn't mesh. Kubiak may not be a defensive mind, but he probably has a vision for the style of defense he wants to run. It could be that Gray and Bates don't run it. Now, that I've been throwing a bunch of unsubtianted points out there can I work for the Chronicle? 