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BADBOY's 2011 pre-season mock

Just for the record, I was just using Mallett as an example because he was the first name to come to mind. The point I was making is that if a QB that was highly rated fell to us, I would not be adverse to us selecting one in the first round. I just think that we will be in a position to take the true BPA, not just the best at a position of need.
But it was a great example! Mallett is predicted to be a top 15 and could fall depending on QBs that could be selected such as Devlin.
 
1) Center
2) Backup QB
3) OT

Its actually pretty hard after FS, Center, and backup QB. The Texans have good, young starters across the board, should players pan out as expected. Realistically, the next draft becomes about depth and filling injury holes and free agent defections.


Other possible positions of need are DT especially since this should be a bubble year for Okoye. It's time for him to step up instead of continuing to learn and mature. CB, even if Jackson turns out to be great we could still use some upgrades and you can never have to many good CB's. OG, I can't believe that Studdard is the LG of the future for this team, his position needs to be upgraded.
 
Other possible positions of need are DT especially since this should be a bubble year for Okoye. It's time for him to step up instead of continuing to learn and mature. CB, even if Jackson turns out to be great we could still use some upgrades and you can never have to many good CB's. OG, I can't believe that Studdard is the LG of the future for this team, his position needs to be upgraded.
I like corners also and as noted in thread select one in 4th where we have had some luck. OG,don't count out Briesel yet. I'm hoping Smith will replace Studdard although I hear heas not made much of a push. ALso, Shelley Smith our 6th from CSU is getting accolades from Kubiak. Although you and others are down on Okoye, he seems to be thought well of as he helped shut down the run which before last season was deemed high priority. If he can keep his strength and get quicker with his recent loss in weight, we might not go DT.
 
While I think that it is too early to call someone a future starter, I do think that Nolan looks good. I may have to eat some crow on that one.

I know its early, but there is still plenty of room on the Troy Nolan Bandwagon. I have been driving that truck pretty hard for a while now and was estatic we got him where we did.
 
Just for the record, I was just using Mallett as an example because he was the first name to come to mind. The point I was making is that if a QB that was highly rated fell to us, I would not be adverse to us selecting one in the first round. I just think that we will be in a position to take the true BPA, not just the best at a position of need.

I would love if we were in that position. We could trade down, pick up some extra picks and still geta great prospect!
 
I would love if we were in that position. We could trade down, pick up some extra picks and still geta great prospect!
I think it would be hard for me to trade down if Mallett was there late first. I am going to watch Endarle, but Mallett is thought to be a possible franchise type QB. I was like 65 on Nolan and did not think much of him but really hope he comes on. I am hoping same for McManus and Shelley Smith.
 
From my corner, Chris O'Dowd is slower and weaker than Myers.
I have not watched the Penn St guy much; I think I will try to do so this season if I have the time.
I've been touting William Vllachos from Alabama for awhile now.
And just found out that he played last season with some broken bone in his toe.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20100806/SPORTS0401/8060305/ALABAMA-NOTEBOOK-William-Vlachos-now-pain-free-Cody-free
That makes it more impressive for him... to be playing well like that.
The one concern with Vllachos is that he's barely 6'0.
It makes it more difficult to move him, but it may become a liability when guy get over the top and in pass protection.
(It would be a shame if he doesn't get to play in the NFL. Who's the shortest NFL Center, any one knows?)
 
I wished that the Texans had drafted OT Sebastian Vollmer from UH.
But I guess nobody figured he would go that high (#58).
It appears he's now a lock at RT for the Pats.
He played very well against Freeney (better that #1 pick Jake Long from 2008 - better than our tackles).
He even demolished Freeney in a running play that I saw last year.

We can move one of our tackle to Guard and become a very solid O-line for a long time.

This year, there's Castonzo from BC that I really like.
Looks as if he's going in the first round though, and we probably won't be able to get him.

I will take TXSeminole's reccommendation and pay some attention to the Guard from Fla St.
Pouncey, I'm not sure where to put him yet (2nd, 3rd or 4th).

I don't think the Texans will take any guy on the Wisconsin O-line.
They just don't have the quickness I think the Texans want.
 
I'll throw in my .02 cents which is exactly what it's worth since I'm not very familiar with some of these players. I used WalterFootballs site for the prospect rankings.

1. Marvin Austin-DT North Carolina 6'03" 305 lbs. or Jarvis Jenkins-DT Clemson 6'04 310 lbs.. I can't make up my mind which one. It's time we tried to fill this massive void on the D-line again. Okoye has had his chance to prove himself and failed, and I don't think Mitchell is the answer. Also Cody, Okam, and Robinson are just filling roster spots, their not the future of the position.

2. Kristofer O'Dowd USC 6'05" 298 lbs. He's a little light but a year older and he should be able to add a little weight without a problem. He should make an excellent ZBS OG/C. This pick might require some luck.

3. Quinton Carter-FS Oklahoma 6'01" 193 lbs. 4.53 speed. Decent size and speed and should be able to add a little weight. Also had good college productivity. Wilson is good but 2011 will be his last year under contract and we've got no one good behind him.

4. Jerrod Johnson-QB ATM 6'05" 229 lbs. He's got the size, intelligence, and athleticism as well as a decent arm to play QB. He'd sit for a minimum of 2 yrs. and learn the pro style offense from Kubiak and Schaub.

5. Butch Lewis-OT USC 6'05" 288 lbs. IIRC this is Butlers last year under contract and we'll probably lose him to FA, so he'll need replacing. He's got the size that he should be able to add some weight and not lose any athleticism, he'll be a year older and bigger and comes from a pro style offense already. This pick might also require some luck.

6. K.J. Wright-OLB Mississippi St. 6'04" 245 lbs. Kevin Bentley isn't getting any younger, Adibi hasn't stepped up (very disappointed here), Sharpton is small and we need some depth here. He's got size and 4.73 speed and plays in the SEC.

7. Derrick Washington-RB Missouri 6'00" 225 lbs. Chris Henry sucks, Johnson hasn't shown us anything and our rash of injuries at RB (Slaton and Tate) has proven that we need extras even if he's only on the PS. He's had decent college productivity for a late round RB and can catch the ball in the passing game.

There it is, my first 2011 mock draft. Let's here it....
 
Don't see us drafting a FS if Troy Nolan stays healthy....

The team has praised him and so far it looks justified, I wouldn't be surprised if he's our starting FS by the time the season is over.

I think we'll draft a offensive lineman high in next years draft. (C or G)
 
My best attempt at drafting like Kubiak.

1st Allen Bailey, DE/DT, Miami
2nd Rodney Hudson, G, Florida State
3rd Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin
4th Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
5th Justin Rogers, CB/KR, Richmond
6th Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
7th Zac Pauga, FB, Colorado State
 
I'll throw in my .02 cents which is exactly what it's worth since I'm not very familiar with some of these players. I used WalterFootballs site for the prospect rankings.

1. Marvin Austin-DT North Carolina 6'03" 305 lbs. or Jarvis Jenkins-DT Clemson 6'04 310 lbs.. I can't make up my mind which one. It's time we tried to fill this massive void on the D-line again. Okoye has had his chance to prove himself and failed, and I don't think Mitchell is the answer. Also Cody, Okam, and Robinson are just filling roster spots, their not the future of the position.

2. Kristofer O'Dowd USC 6'05" 298 lbs. He's a little light but a year older and he should be able to add a little weight without a problem. He should make an excellent ZBS OG/C. This pick might require some luck.

3. Quinton Carter-FS Oklahoma 6'01" 193 lbs. 4.53 speed. Decent size and speed and should be able to add a little weight. Also had good college productivity. Wilson is good but 2011 will be his last year under contract and we've got no one good behind him.

4. Jerrod Johnson-QB ATM 6'05" 229 lbs. He's got the size, intelligence, and athleticism as well as a decent arm to play QB. He'd sit for a minimum of 2 yrs. and learn the pro style offense from Kubiak and Schaub.

5. Butch Lewis-OT USC 6'05" 288 lbs. IIRC this is Butlers last year under contract and we'll probably lose him to FA, so he'll need replacing. He's got the size that he should be able to add some weight and not lose any athleticism, he'll be a year older and bigger and comes from a pro style offense already. This pick might also require some luck.

6. K.J. Wright-OLB Mississippi St. 6'04" 245 lbs. Kevin Bentley isn't getting any younger, Adibi hasn't stepped up (very disappointed here), Sharpton is small and we need some depth here. He's got size and 4.73 speed and plays in the SEC.

7. Derrick Washington-RB Missouri 6'00" 225 lbs. Chris Henry sucks, Johnson hasn't shown us anything and our rash of injuries at RB (Slaton and Tate) has proven that we need extras even if he's only on the PS. He's had decent college productivity for a late round RB and can catch the ball in the passing game.

There it is, my first 2011 mock draft. Let's here it....

Your DT's have too much lead in the ass. 280lb DT's please...
 
Your DT's have too much lead in the ass. 280lb DT's please...

Actually I think the guys I chose are a little on the light side, 280 lbs. for a DT is undersized in todays NFL. I know it's what the Texans would do but I wasn't trying to predict what they do, my draft is what I'd do. Shaun Cody is 306 lbs., Frank Okam is 346 lbs., Deljuan Robinson is 307 lbs., Earl Mitchell is 300 lbs.
 
My best attempt at drafting like Kubiak.

1st Allen Bailey, DE/DT, Miami
2nd Rodney Hudson, G, Florida State
3rd Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin
4th Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
5th Justin Rogers, CB/KR, Richmond
6th Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
7th Zac Pauga, FB, Colorado State

I like the Hudson pick, I had originally chose him in the 2nd round but changed it to O'Dowd at the last minute. The rest are probably exactly what Kubiak would do, an undersized DT, another damn TE, small school reaches, and a player from CSU.
 
My best attempt at drafting like Kubiak.


7th Zac Pauga, FB, Colorado State

May I suggest an even more Kubsian draft prospect?

Introducing Eric Peitz

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A tight end from Colorado State!
 
I don't know what his pro-prospects are like, but what if Mark Ingram is sitting there?

I really like Ingram, he's going to make someone an excellent RB but we've got much bigger holes to fill than RB. I think that Foster, Tate, and Slaton are the future of the position with Houston and the O-line needs to be upgraded before we look for another RB. I'd rather have an elite DT and OG/C in the 1st and 2nd rounds of the draft.
 
I really like Ingram, he's going to make someone an excellent RB but we've got much bigger holes to fill than RB. I think that Foster, Tate, and Slaton are the future of the position with Houston and the O-line needs to be upgraded before we look for another RB. I'd rather have an elite DT and OG/C in the 1st and 2nd rounds of the draft.
I have Jeremiah Johnson ahead of Slaton on my chart so far. Orslovski looked better but I still see drafting a QB fairly high.
 
Actually I think the guys I chose are a little on the light side, 280 lbs. for a DT is undersized in todays NFL. I know it's what the Texans would do but I wasn't trying to predict what they do, my draft is what I'd do. Shaun Cody is 306 lbs., Frank Okam is 346 lbs., Deljuan Robinson is 307 lbs., Earl Mitchell is 300 lbs.

Was sarcasm. I like em big, fat, and nasty, but the Texans disagree. 310ish sounds nice.
 
After watching the depth (?) play against Tampa Bay I am re-doing my mock. Knew it would happen just not so quickly.

1. Before : ODowd C
Now : Ryan Mallett QB
Reason: Pre-season has center looking even better as OGs are stronger. More importantly, QB looks really questionable. Dan O. has the skills & body to be Matt 2. It is the body between his ears that makes me go huh? Texans HAVE to have a solid # 2 QB not a maybe he'll do it guy. Can Orslovsky correct his mental lapses? Yes. Will he? I tried to find fault with the Oline and blocking of RBs (there was none by Henry)but both INTs were on O. A new CBA with reduced rookie scale will make this a no brainer pick.
2009: 6'7" 238lbs 22 now; 3627 yds 30 TDs

2. Before: Gideon FS
Now I go:Jimmy Smith Colorado CB 6'2" 205lb 4.49 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=76883&draftyear=2011&genpos=CB
http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-college-sports/ci_15714768
Reason:
Wilson looking very good at FS and Nolan acts like a starter. Dominque whiffed on an open field tackle but I am not a Barber fan. Still I can see moving FS down a bit. We better really hope our top 2 CBs don't get hurt (Jackson, Quin and McCain) as McManus was terrible until second half when he seemed to be better. Coulda, shoulda had INT late in game. Reeves is playing like his feelings are hurt and seems to get worse each game. I am a bit surprised. Did not appear Moldin was in game.

3rd Endarle QB: still like him but Mallett possible franchise QB and Nathan may not be here.
Now : RB Leaning towards Jaquizz Rodgers Oregon State 5'7" 195lb as I followed him a bit last season but also gonna watch Demarco Murray Oklahoma 6'1" 214 4.48 who might fall due to injury history. I like him. http://www.demarco-murray.com/

Reason: Foster looks good to go and JJ is a diamond in the rough but injured toe last night. Slaton, Slaton, Stevie Slaton he could be great or poo. Henry may not be cut but he should be. I think we will see how valuable a good back is. Tate? Like Slaton, potential but who knows. This may be too high if all 3 work out and Kubes may not go this high hoping Tate is real deal.

5-7 remain the same.
 
After watching the depth (?) play against Tampa Bay I am re-doing my mock. Knew it would happen just not so quickly.

1. Before : ODowd C
Now : Ryan Mallett QB
Reason: Pre-season has center looking even better as OGs are stronger. More importantly, QB looks really questionable. Dan O. has the skills & body to be Matt 2. It is the body between his ears that makes me go huh? Texans HAVE to have a solid # 2 QB not a maybe he'll do it guy. Can Orslovsky correct his mental lapses? Yes. Will he? I tried to find fault with the Oline and blocking of RBs (there was none by Henry)but both INTs were on O. A new CBA with reduced rookie scale will make this a no brainer pick.
2009: 6'7" 238lbs 22 now; 3627 yds 30 TDs

2. Before: Gideon FS
Now I go:Jimmy Smith Colorado CB 6'2" 205lb 4.49 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=76883&draftyear=2011&genpos=CB
http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-college-sports/ci_15714768
Reason:
Wilson looking very good at FS and Nolan acts like a starter. Dominque whiffed on an open field tackle but I am not a Barber fan. Still I can see moving FS down a bit. We better really hope our top 2 CBs don't get hurt (Jackson, Quin and McCain) as McManus was terrible until second half when he seemed to be better. Coulda, shoulda had INT late in game. Reeves is playing like his feelings are hurt and seems to get worse each game. I am a bit surprised. Did not appear Moldin was in game.

3rd Endarle QB: still like him but Mallett possible franchise QB and Nathan may not be here.
Now : RB Leaning towards Jaquizz Rodgers Oregon State 5'7" 195lb as I followed him a bit last season but also gonna watch Demarco Murray Oklahoma 6'1" 214 4.48 who might fall due to injury history. I like him. http://www.demarco-murray.com/

Reason: Foster looks good to go and JJ is a diamond in the rough but injured toe last night. Slaton, Slaton, Stevie Slaton he could be great or poo. Henry may not be cut but he should be. I think we will see how valuable a good back is. Tate? Like Slaton, potential but who knows. This may be too high if all 3 work out and Kubes may not go this high hoping Tate is real deal.

5-7 remain the same.
I am working on round 4.
 
I like what you have going on there badboy. This early, I would be hard pressed to find a better mock. I love the Prosinski pick (glad you agree from our pm's), and the Enderle pick.

Just for giggles, my pre-season mock would be:

1) Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
2)John Moffit, OC/OG, Wisconsin
3) Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho
4) Will Rackley, OG, Liberty
5) Chris Prosinski, FS/SS, Wyoming
6) Owen Marecic, FB, Stanford
7) Eric Peitz, TE, Colorado State








7) Just kidding about that one, Alex Henry, K, Nebraska

If, and it's a big if, Henery lasts till the 7th I'll be screaming at my TV for the Texans to draft him.
 
Mallet is over rated, he has a rocket and no footwork. Plus there is such an animal as too tall to be an NFL QB. 6-7 is too big, they tend to have to uncoil to get out from center, and they do not usually have the athleticism to play QB in the NFL
 
Mallet is over rated, he has a rocket and no footwork. Plus there is such an animal as too tall to be an NFL QB. 6-7 is too big, they tend to have to uncoil to get out from center, and they do not usually have the athleticism to play QB in the NFL
I understand your concerns and will watch him for just that reason. Anyone have comments about picking up TT Jamar Wall CB? I watched him some during his college career. Finished his collegiate career as a Red Raider with 186 tackles, three tackles for loss, nine interceptions, 34 pass breakups and two forced fumbles while playing in 50 games with 38 starts...as a senior was named Alamo Bowl Defensive MVP after recording an interception against Michigan State.
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/player.asp?player_id=467

Following is Cowboy notes about stashing Wall and how my former mock guy Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is doing. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/tag/_/name/jamar-wall

If I remember correctly Wall did not go to combine and during pro day, hurt himself during the 40.
 
I understand your concerns and will watch him for just that reason. Anyone have comments about picking up TT Jamar Wall CB? I watched him some during his college career. Finished his collegiate career as a Red Raider with 186 tackles, three tackles for loss, nine interceptions, 34 pass breakups and two forced fumbles while playing in 50 games with 38 starts...as a senior was named Alamo Bowl Defensive MVP after recording an interception against Michigan State.
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/player.asp?player_id=467

Following is Cowboy notes about stashing Wall and how my former mock guy Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is doing. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/tag/_/name/jamar-wall

If I remember correctly Wall did not go to combine and during pro day, hurt himself during the 40.

Walls had a great Shrine Bowl week, and looked solid in the game. IMO he was the best CB at the Shrine Game.

Appears a little slow on the top end, but a solid hand fighter, and he appears to play the ball well in the air.
 
Walls had a great Shrine Bowl week, and looked solid in the game. IMO he was the best CB at the Shrine Game.

Appears a little slow on the top end, but a solid hand fighter, and he appears to play the ball well in the air.
Although he did not run the 40, I think he goes about 4.5 which is adequate if not a burner. He should have time to learn on Texans Roster and if successful change my mock board.
Info from NFLDraftscout.com "Post-Draft Outlook: A closer look at the Cowboys picks: Round 6/196 -- Jamar Wall, CB, 5-10,204, Texas Tech: He is an good cover corner who groomed for the NFL by covering Michael Crabtree in practice and Dez Bryant in the Big 12. Should be able to compete for the fourth corner spot and impact on special teams. - by The Sports Xchange"
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=66675&draftyear=2010&genpos=CB
 
I'm not really one for putting up mock drafts because every year I am always pissed that the Texans passed on X player, but I do enjoy reading all of your mocks so that I recognize some of these names while watching NCAA football. Reps for many of you putting for the efforts :D
 
I'm not really one for putting up mock drafts because every year I am always pissed that the Texans passed on X player, but I do enjoy reading all of your mocks so that I recognize some of these names while watching NCAA football. Reps for many of you putting for the efforts :D
Thanks for compliment. Beerlover, Rmartin 65 & I really enjoy the mocks and especially the hours of debate and review between us that goes on behind the scenes. My hat is off for these fine young men who really make me enjoy the college scene much more than I use to. When the three of us have identified a player to watch, it adds more zest to the game. My concern at the quarterback position is I want Schaub to remain healthy and on field allowing Linert and Danny O. time for more to be crammed into them at practice. I am hoping to see some garbage minutes for both as the season goes on.
 
After watching the depth (?) play against Tampa Bay I am re-doing my mock. Knew it would happen just not so quickly.

1. Before : ODowd C
Now : Ryan Mallett QB
Reason: Pre-season has center looking even better as OGs are stronger. More importantly, QB looks really questionable. Dan O. has the skills & body to be Matt 2. It is the body between his ears that makes me go huh? Texans HAVE to have a solid # 2 QB not a maybe he'll do it guy. Can Orslovsky correct his mental lapses? Yes. Will he? I tried to find fault with the Oline and blocking of RBs (there was none by Henry)but both INTs were on O. A new CBA with reduced rookie scale will make this a no brainer pick.
2009: 6'7" 238lbs 22 now; 3627 yds 30 TDs

2. Before: Gideon FS
Now I go:Jimmy Smith Colorado CB 6'2" 205lb 4.49 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=76883&draftyear=2011&genpos=CB
http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-college-sports/ci_15714768
Reason:
Wilson looking very good at FS and Nolan acts like a starter. Dominque whiffed on an open field tackle but I am not a Barber fan. Still I can see moving FS down a bit. We better really hope our top 2 CBs don't get hurt (Jackson, Quin and McCain) as McManus was terrible until second half when he seemed to be better. Coulda, shoulda had INT late in game. Reeves is playing like his feelings are hurt and seems to get worse each game. I am a bit surprised. Did not appear Moldin was in game.

3rd Endarle QB: still like him but Mallett possible franchise QB and Nathan may not be here.
Now : RB Leaning towards Jaquizz Rodgers Oregon State 5'7" 195lb as I followed him a bit last season but also gonna watch Demarco Murray Oklahoma 6'1" 214 4.48 who might fall due to injury history. I like him. http://www.demarco-murray.com/

Reason: Foster looks good to go and JJ is a diamond in the rough but injured toe last night. Slaton, Slaton, Stevie Slaton he could be great or poo. Henry may not be cut but he should be. I think we will see how valuable a good back is. Tate? Like Slaton, potential but who knows. This may be too high if all 3 work out and Kubes may not go this high hoping Tate is real deal.

5-7 remain the same.

Badboy, I like your 1,2,3(By position of needs QB,Oline, and FS). However, I am really concerned about our DE position. When Connor went down, it just hit me that we are not that deep in talent of DE position. I hope Conner's injury is not serious and able to come back 100% next year but shouldn't we be looking at DE position in early rounds?

Go Texans!!!
 
I understand your concerns and will watch him for just that reason..

I watched a little of the Razorbacks game on Saturday, and Mallett was what I thought he was, a tall big arm with no mechanics and no accuracy. He also has a slow release due to the long arm.

He is not on my draft watch list anymore.
 
I watched a little of the Razorbacks game on Saturday, and Mallett was what I thought he was, a tall big arm with no mechanics and no accuracy. He also has a slow release due to the long arm.

He is not on my draft watch list anymore.
Thanks for info.. I am more cautious of him but want to see how he does. Wished I had more faith in Orslovky settling down.
 
Badboy, I like your 1,2,3(By position of needs QB,Oline, and FS). However, I am really concerned about our DE position. When Connor went down, it just hit me that we are not that deep in talent of DE position. I hope Conner's injury is not serious and able to come back 100% next year but shouldn't we be looking at DE position in early rounds?

Go Texans!!!
Yeah my last post was prior to Barwin's injury. Let's wait to see what the new players do. Ogunyele may be a good player.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...enney-ogunleye-after-losing-barwin-for-season

I've been hoping Schobel would sign especially after he saw the butt whipping we put on COLTS. I sure would like to go one draft without a Dlineman in first three rounds.
 
Let's break it down by position of importance & balance with salary cap hit down the road. Whatever the player/position they select it will take a larger chunk of cap space if he's successful, which is what we're hoping for right? So what are the big paying positions? In my mind the big three are QB, LT, CB. All three of which seem to be well along to accomplish this tri-fector (Schaub, Duane Brown, Kareem Jackson[maybe a little early to say yet]).

So I would be surprised if they choose anyone, unless glaring bpa, who play QB, LT or CB. The next group DE (Mario) DT (Amobi/Mitchell) WR (Andre) & MLB (DeMEco/Sharpton) are also pretty much covered. maybe if there is a dominant point of attack nose tackle late first I could see them taking another elite inside tackle (Jerrell Powe/Steven Paea - both prospects fit work ethic/character clean profile). Amobi is in the final year of his rookie contract so depends how well he plays & do the Texans feel his value is worth agent compensation demands, color me skeptical right now but he does have at least 15 more games to prove otherwise :handshake:

Third group would include all other positions, OL, RB, LB, TE etc.... so I would focus on bpa who fit scheme/team @ the biggest need position.

BL :wesmantexanfan:
 
Let's break it down by position of importance & balance with salary cap hit down the road. Whatever the player/position they select it will take a larger chunk of cap space if he's successful, which is what we're hoping for right? So what are the big paying positions? In my mind the big three are QB, LT, CB. All three of which seem to be well along to accomplish this tri-fector (Schaub, Duane Brown, Kareem Jackson[maybe a little early to say yet]).

So I would be surprised if they choose anyone, unless glaring bpa, who play QB, LT or CB. The next group DE (Mario) DT (Amobi/Mitchell) WR (Andre) & MLB (DeMEco/Sharpton) are also pretty much covered. maybe if there is a dominant point of attack nose tackle late first I could see them taking another elite inside tackle (Jerrell Powe/Steven Paea - both prospects fit work ethic/character clean profile). Amobi is in the final year of his rookie contract so depends how well he plays & do the Texans feel his value is worth agent compensation demands, color me skeptical right now but he does have at least 15 more games to prove otherwise :handshake:

Third group would include all other positions, OL, RB, LB, TE etc.... so I would focus on bpa who fit scheme/team @ the biggest need position.

BL :wesmantexanfan:


I agree with most of what you said with the exception of the fact that since there are 2-3 CB's on the field at any given time I wouldn't hesitate to take a CB in the 1st round next year. 2011 seems to be a good CB year as well. It's yet to be proven if Jackson can handle being a #1 CB in the NFL but I think he's started off well and should do fine. We still need to improve our level of talent at CB though. Quinn or McCain will make good nickles or average #2 CB's but it sure would be nice to have another high talent CB especially in the new era of NFL football that's very pass oriented and many teams are running 3 WR sets quite often. So many teams are playing nickle or dime defenses so often that improving the CB talent on any team is a must, remember you can never have to many good CB's. I wouldn't argue with BPA in the 1st round as long as it's at a position of need, ie: CB, FS, DT, or OG/C. Of course all positions of need are dependent on how players play this year and on injuries.
 
I agree with most of what you said with the exception of the fact that since there are 2-3 CB's on the field at any given time I wouldn't hesitate to take a CB in the 1st round next year. 2011 seems to be a good CB year as well. It's yet to be proven if Jackson can handle being a #1 CB in the NFL but I think he's started off well and should do fine. We still need to improve our level of talent at CB though. Quinn or McCain will make good nickles or average #2 CB's but it sure would be nice to have another high talent CB especially in the new era of NFL football that's very pass oriented and many teams are running 3 WR sets quite often. So many teams are playing nickle or dime defenses so often that improving the CB talent on any team is a must, remember you can never have to many good CB's. I wouldn't argue with BPA in the 1st round as long as it's at a position of need, ie: CB, FS, DT, or OG/C. Of course all positions of need are dependent on how players play this year and on injuries.

CB is a premium position but I would like to see Texans solidify the pass rush with BPA for their system (Connor Barwin out places higher priority too). The team that owns line of scrimmage usually wins the game so a premier DT or DE would only make it easier for the CB's.
 
CB is a premium position but I would like to see Texans solidify the pass rush with BPA for their system (Connor Barwin out places higher priority too). The team that owns line of scrimmage usually wins the game so a premier DT or DE would only make it easier for the CB's.
I am going to agree with BL on this one. As said above 2011 appears to be deep with strong CB candidates and I would pick up another first 3 rounds even if all our currents turn out as expected such as McManus. I still see the possibility of Quin going to FS as Eugene Wilson did. This is where BPA and being in a roster depth situation that allows us to do that. Personally, I think it is harder to get a quality Dline player than a CB.
 
Here's my latest mock:

1. Brandon Harris-CB
2. Kristofer O'Dowd-C
3. Quinton Carter-FS
4. Lawrence Marsh-DT
5. Butch Lewis-OT
6. K.J. Wright-OLB
7. Best SS available ?
 
You are ok with our back up QBs?

I think there are probably only 1 or 2 teams in the NFL that are happy with their backup QB situation, with that said the other 90% of the NFL is royally screwed if their starting QB goes down. I'm not happy with Dan-O this guy should be better than he is by now but I think that Leinart can get the job done so I don't see it as a major need. If we spent a 5th or later round pick on a QB I wouldn't be upset but Schaub is young and in good health so I don't see the need to waste an early pick on a guy to hold a clip board. JMO
 
You are ok with our back up QBs?

you know I'm not so next year Texans should have the luxury of scouting/identifying a prospect worth development. They may also have designs on a QB already in the league but maybe not in the best situation currently. I've always thought highly of former Houston Cougar Kevin Kolb, I think Kubiak thinks highly of him too. Compensation would be steep (late 1st rd. pick) so you have to weigh out options, but yeah he would be a great fit back here in Houston behind Schaub.
 
I think there are probably only 1 or 2 teams in the NFL that are happy with their backup QB situation, with that said the other 90% of the NFL is royally screwed if their starting QB goes down. I'm not happy with Dan-O this guy should be better than he is by now but I think that Leinart can get the job done so I don't see it as a major need. If we spent a 5th or later round pick on a QB I wouldn't be upset but Schaub is young and in good health so I don't see the need to waste an early pick on a guy to hold a clip board. JMO
I think if Leinart does well here, he will be gone like Rex Grossman. He will be a one year Texan.
 
you know I'm not so next year Texans should have the luxury of scouting/identifying a prospect worth development. They may also have designs on a QB already in the league but maybe not in the best situation currently. I've always thought highly of former Houston Cougar Kevin Kolb, I think Kubiak thinks highly of him too. Compensation would be steep (late 1st rd. pick) so you have to weigh out options, but yeah he would be a great fit back here in Houston behind Schaub.

wonder if Texans are one of them http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b61My
 
As of today (Sept 23rd)
1. QB Ryan Mallett Ark. I want to see him against Alabama this Saturday. Hope on TV. Team will not select Center
2. CB Jimmy Smith 6'2" 205lb 4.49 bigger than Devon House and as fast. This is a shut down CB with only 2 INTS but 10 break ups. & 70 tackles. Can play FS (Colorado)
3. DE Sam Acho UT
4. RB Brandon Saine 6' 218 4.46 Ohio St. Tate should be back but I think I want another fast strong back. Slaton still a ?
5. Chris Prosinski FS/SS Wyoming. WIlson is 30 even if Nolan is real deal Chris is good; 140 tackles four for loss and 6 pass break ups. 4.56 is decent.
 
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