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AP Doing A Re-Vote

gary said:
Here is the thing I have heard and seen reports of many NFL players using steroids without getting caught. If true, how do we know who is cheating and who is not? We don't. I have heard he is not the only one by any means. So, are they just going to give the award from one cheater to the next? Well, without any testing to these new front runners that seems to be the case IMO. I say these guys should be tested before hand it is only fair but even that does not mean they were not on anything at some point and time. Does it? Just saying.
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I hear what you're saying and have the same feeling, but the fact is (as far as we know) they havn't tested positive for any banned substances. Why not throw away every single individual award like both ROY's, MVP, Super Bowl MVPs, etc. It's the same concept, you'd think a lot of players that may win the award have taken a banned substance. But the difference is Cushing tested positive for it, the other havn't.

gary said:
Why won't he say what it was/is?
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b0ng said:
If Cushing isn't going to come out and say what chemical failed him then I think it's safe to assume the worst.
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We all want him to, and chances are he will. Right now he's doing the smart thing. He made a public statement that is was a non-steroid. I'm sure he's talking to his family, agent and attorneys right now. I know it's easy to say, 'if he's innocent then he should just say what it is' but quite honestly, even if he is, the smart thing is be get legal advice, yadda yadda yadda. He'll have his time. He's already taken the first step and that's saying it was a non-steroid.

Chances are it will be before the voting occurs. But I have a feeling Cushing cares more about what the league, other players, texans management and texans players think of him.... as well as the fans. I think he's more worried about his reputation right now than some awards, which is how it should be, imo.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Oh, so you know for sure he tested positive for steroids?
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Sorry, but in the year 2010 it's now up to the athlete to clear his name and so far Brian Cushing has been AWFUL QUIET. I hate that that's how it is, but it is....he can thank all the other knuckle heads during this past decade for that.

And if he thinks just saying "it was a non steroid" is going to suffice...it's not.
 
to me this is the biggest bullshit excuse here
"In 2002, the voters knew Peppers had been suspended when they voted, and they knew Williams had been suspended when they voted," Wilner said. "In this case, some thought they voted under false pretenses because no one knew Cushing had tested positive and was appealing when they voted.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6998827.html


I could care less if they take it away, I imagine that will give him more motivation

and I figure (which most times is wrong) that if Cushing was notified in Sept that he failed, I figure that whatever not -steroidal stuff he was taking, he changed that and was clean throughout the season .. and if that is the case .. God help the AFC South and NFC East this season when he comes back


*edit* if what someone posted above me is true. he still has it ..anyway .. off my pedestal
 
Wolf said:
to me this is the biggest bullshit excuse here


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6998827.html


I could care less if they take it away, I imagine that will give him more motivation

and I figure (which most times is wrong) that if Cushing was notified in Sept that he failed, I figure that whatever not -steroidal stuff he was taking, he changed that and was clean throughout the season .. and if that is the case .. God help the AFC South and NFC East this season when he comes back
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Well, half the NFC EAST games will already be played, as will one of the games against the divisional opponent that we're chasing....so I don't think they'll be too scared.
 
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

Brian Cushing was suspended four games and has created doubters in him - that is his punishment. Losing an award shouldn't be tacked on.

RT @McClain_on_NFL: Cushing passed every random test since Sept. I voted Kevin Williams first team, so why wouldn't I vote for Cushing?
 
Carr Bombed said:
Well, where's all the people that were calling these guys idiots a couple hours ago.
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LOL, right? (OMT quietly sits down)... Maybe they're having the same feeling as I am.

1. The AP is dumb to call a re-vote this early.
2. They believe it is a non-steroid, non perfromance enhancing drug.
3. Even though it's on the banned substance list, they may think its either BS or they don't have enough information to take an award AWAY.

Whatever the case, it sucks he has to serve his suspension. I hope the Texans still do well and make the playoffs. I hope Cushing can clear his name and have a great career as a Texan.
 
JB said:
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

Brian Cushing was suspended four games and has created doubters in him - that is his punishment. Losing an award shouldn't be tacked on.

RT @McClain_on_NFL: Cushing passed every random test since Sept. I voted Kevin Williams first team, so why wouldn't I vote for Cushing?
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NFLN losing Adam Schefter was a huge blow to the network. The man has some great insights, and I've never seen a bias from him ever. "Around the League" isn't the same without him.
 
AnthonyE said:
NFLN losing Adam Schefter was a huge blow to the network. The man has some great insights, and I've never seen a bias from him ever. "Around the League" isn't the same without him.
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Your right. Huge loss for NFLN. Especially around draft time.
 
AnthonyE said:
NFLN losing Adam Schefter was a huge blow to the network. The man has some great insights, and I've never seen a bias from him ever. "Around the League" isn't the same without him.
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Totally agree on Schefter. I think he does a really good job of not sounding biased and he seems to have more connections than the CIA.
 
AnthonyE said:
NFLN losing Adam Schefter was a huge blow to the network. The man has some great insights, and I've never seen a bias from him ever. "Around the League" isn't the same without him.
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I can't stand that dork that they replaced him with. They should've just paid Adam whatever he wanted.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I hear what you're saying and have the same feeling, but the fact is (as far as we know) they havn't tested positive for any banned substances. Why not throw away every single individual award like both ROY's, MVP, Super Bowl MVPs, etc. It's the same concept, you'd think a lot of players that may win the award have taken a banned substance. But the difference is Cushing tested positive for it, the other havn't.




We all want him to, and chances are he will. Right now he's doing the smart thing. He made a public statement that is was a non-steroid. I'm sure he's talking to his family, agent and attorneys right now. I know it's easy to say, 'if he's innocent then he should just say what it is' but quite honestly, even if he is, the smart thing is be get legal advice, yadda yadda yadda. He'll have his time. He's already taken the first step and that's saying it was a non-steroid.

Chances are it will be before the voting occurs. But I have a feeling Cushing cares more about what the league, other players, texans management and texans players think of him.... as well as the fans. I think he's more worried about his reputation right now than some awards, which is how it should be, imo.
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Great points I agree all the way around. I never thought about none of the others testing postive but you are right on target man. Rep for you.
 
b0ng said:
Right here. They are idiots. If he actually wins again then they look like buffoons.
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I think its only a few people that wanted to revote and that is why writers are still giving him the award or it could be because many voted for Peppers and he kept his award.
 
AnthonyE said:
NFLN losing Adam Schefter was a huge blow to the network. The man has some great insights, and I've never seen a bias from him ever. "Around the League" isn't the same without him.
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I like La Canfora, but God knows I want to curb stomp Rich Eisen.
 
LonerATO said:
I think its only a few people that wanted to revote and that is why writers are still giving him the award or it could be because many voted for Peppers and he kept his award.
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This is why I think they are being idiots. They knowingly voted for Kevin Williams this year (who is serving a suspension in 2010 for a banned substance) and they voted for Peppers his rookie year so basically why are they re-voting again?

EDIT: Well they (the whole lot of them) might not be as stupid as I make them out to be, but if it was one person who called a re-vote then that person is all I paint these sports writers to be.

EDIT2: Kevin Williams voted All-Pro DT. Just so people don't think that I'm saying Kevin Williams was in the running for some kind of rookie award this recently.
 
Carr Bombed said:
:rolleyes:

Oh god, is that now what we've come to. In a sad attempt to wash away the shame, we've gone to the "everybody's doing it, so let's accept it" card.

I didn't like steroid users before it stained our team and I'm not going to except it now, because it stained our team. Not everybody in the league is dirty....that's nonsense. There are players who cheat and then there are players who are clean and compete the right way, not everybody in the league is dirty.

Cushing and every other steriod user needs to pay the price once they get caught.
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xreadx said:
YOUR AN *****! its pointless to argue on this thread but your a foolish moron in regards to this...you ever worn a jock strap? and did you graduate with a class over 14....
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Found it found it!!!!!

And Carr Bombed, you must be some ******! Don't you know every single player in the NFL is roided up? The going rate is 100% these days. I think the new question now is not boxers or briefs., but rather 'jock strap or not'? lol
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Found it found it!!!!!

And Carr Bombed, you must be some ******! Don't you know every single player in the NFL is roided up? The going rate is 100% these days. I think the new question now is not boxers or briefs., but rather 'jock strap or not'? lol
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Thanks man!!

That's ****ed up!! Maybe xreadx needs to re-read the T&C of this message board. Attack the post, not the poster. I agree with CB on a lot of ****. On this particular subject I disagree with some of his posts, but isn't that point of message board? Discuss or debate issues? Not be a dick about it.

xreadx discredited him or herself by going to the attack schtick....
 
Texan_Bill said:
Thanks man!!

That's ****ed up!! Maybe xreadx needs to re-read the T&C of this message board. Attack the post, not the poster. I agree with CB on a lot of ****. On this particular subject I disagree with some of his posts, but isn't that point of message board? Discuss or debate issues? Not be a dick about it.

xreadx discredited him or herself by going to the attack schtick....
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Exactly!
 
fyi.. I know Brian has been quiet this week.. news on his fastbook by people(nothing said by Brian) was his aunt died and the reason he went to NJ

what a weekend for Cush
 
Carr Bombed said:
LMAO....Oh I know what we've got here now.

Some moron who was a star high school football player who still can't accept the fact that he didn't have enough talent to move forward. You don't know **** about what goes on in a NFL locker room, because you've never been in one. Now get over yourself.
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are you kidding??? anyone could have steroids at my high school if they wanted them (nederland high school(TX)) look it up. and if you would take steroids in HIGH SCHOOL what makes you think mario doesnt take them to get an extra sack or two can result in millions of extra dollars in new contract money...i cant understand why SOME of you are blind to the fact that >50% of all NFL players take or have takin at one point in time a PED!
 
xreadx said:
are you kidding??? anyone could have steroids at my high school if they wanted them (nederland high school(TX)) look it up. and if you would take steroids in HIGH SCHOOL what makes you think mario doesnt take them an extra sack or two can result in millions of extra dollars in new contract money...i cant understand why SOME of you are blind to the fact that >50% of all NFL players take or have takin at one point in time a PED!
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So you never made the varsity squad and now everybody that is better than you is a cheater huh?..
 
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