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Another Carr Thread - Let's make it the last until the Season starts.

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Let's list who is a Carr supporter or basher and be done with it til the Season starts.

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I am a Texan fan first. Carr is our starting QB and second highest paid player on the team. We need him not to make any mistakes when he gets an opportunity to do his job and we need him to work us out of a jam every once in a while when other's miss their assignments.
 
I am Pro-Texans...that will include everyone on the team till they're not with us anymore. I'm a homer to a fault, but that's me. I think, and hope, that Carr will turn into everyone's quarterback before season's end. :)
 
Well here's the only problem. Even though there are plenty of Carr detractors on the boards, I don't think anyone is really rooting against him. Even though some people don't like Carr or have lost faith in him, I think they still want him to do well for the Texans. I'm sure they'd gladly eat any crow you can give them if Carr has a breakout season.
 
RTP2110 said:
Well here's the only problem. Even though there are plenty of Carr detractors on the boards, I don't think anyone is really rooting against him. Even though some people don't like Carr or have lost faith in him, I think they still want him to do well for the Texans. I'm sure they'd gladly eat any crow you can give them if Carr has a breakout season.
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Never underestimate the power of thr VY manlove Luke.
 
Texan Asylum said:
I am Pro-Texans...that will include everyone on the team till they're not with us anymore. I'm a homer to a fault, but that's me. I think, and hope, that Carr will turn into everyone's quarterback before season's end. :)
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Totally agree. I just read John McClain article about Troy Aikman :

Troy on Norv
When former Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman joins the Pro Football Hall of Fame next month, he'll be presented by his former offensive coordinator, Norv Turner

"In all the years I played football, and for the 12 years I played for the Cowboys, Norv was a part of that for three years," Aikman said. "And yet I don't think there's any question that I wouldn't have become the player I was able to become. I certainly would not be getting inducted into the Hall of Fame if it weren't for his impact.

"He came in at a time when I was a young quarterback going into my third season, had struggled my first few years and needed some guidance, needed somebody to kind of show me how to do it, and put me in a system that allowed me to do the things that I could do. And he did that."

I hope Kubiak is the "Norv Turner" for David Car.
 
threetoedpete said:
Never underestimate the power of thr VY manlove Luke.
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AMEN!!!!!

we should start a pool to see when Bud The Crud trots VY into game because of Billy Volek interception/loss ETC.:redtowel:
 
kikiscafe said:
Totally agree. I just read John McClain article about Troy Aikman :

Troy on Norv
When former Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman joins the Pro Football Hall of Fame next month, he'll be presented by his former offensive coordinator, Norv Turner

"In all the years I played football, and for the 12 years I played for the Cowboys, Norv was a part of that for three years," Aikman said. "And yet I don't think there's any question that I wouldn't have become the player I was able to become. I certainly would not be getting inducted into the Hall of Fame if it weren't for his impact.

"He came in at a time when I was a young quarterback going into my third season, had struggled my first few years and needed some guidance, needed somebody to kind of show me how to do it, and put me in a system that allowed me to do the things that I could do. And he did that."

I hope Kubiak is the "Norv Turner" for David Car.
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Bravo Kiki, thanks for the post.:) I especially like the part following...

Kubiak in charge
With new coach Gary Kubiak in charge of the Texans, players better beware.

"If a player doesn't fit what they're doing, they won't keep him around because he was a high pick or cost a lot of money to acquire," owner Bob McNair said.

Former offensive tackle Todd Wade is a good example. He got a $10 million signing bonus to come to the Texans from the Dolphins and was waived last week.

"He'll get signed by somebody, and he might play real well for them, but our coaches determined that he didn't fit our system and - boom - it was done," McNair said. "They (new coaches) don't worry about things like how high somebody was drafted or how much money they cost.

"Gary's philosophy is the best people play. If you don't have that philosophy, it undermines morale."
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That should be an indicator that the current mindset of the Texans is one of WINNING.
 
I voted "Go Carr!"

I'm a Texans fan first and want what's best for the team. Personally, I don't know if he is The Man or not, but given Kubiak willing to stake his career on him based on conversations and tape, I'm just looking forward to seeing how this works out.

I think his skill sets are a good match for the system Kubiak is putting in. I have the questions that a lot of people have, link, but at this point they are questions.

I believe no quarterback would have thrived under the system and players we've had in place.

It's not a debate I'm terribly interested in getting in because: 1. He's the QB; 2. Draft is over and there are no viable alternatives; 3. So let's just sit back and watch and see if the experts are right.

There has been some horrible QB play and glimpses of what is possible. It will be interesting what our experiment of being patient ends up looking like.

I think for most people here, nothing would make them happier than Carr succeeding and the Texans succeeding along with him. Would be a great story.
 
"Gary's philosophy is the best people play. If you don't have that philosophy, it undermines morale."
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This is one of the reasons why Rod Smith thinks Gary Kubiak has hung the moon. He was undrafted, and has had a great career with Denver.
 
As several other people have said, I'm a Texan fan. Carr is my QB and I'm rooting for him. He had a good season a couple of years ago and I think he's got all the tools he needs to be successful. I worry that the beating he's taken is going to get into his head and he'd damaged emotionally. I don't really understand the fans that are virulently anti-Carr. I've probably been more pro-Carr on this board than I normally would have been in reaction to the people who hate him.

But, really, the bottom line is that we brought in a new coaching staff and they've made the call that Carr can make it. It's a bit too early for me to start doubting the new coaching staff. They had every opportunity to ditch him and start fresh and chose not to. That may or may not have been a mistake but, as fans, isn't it our duty to root for him and cheer him on instead of bashing him and calling him the worst QB in the Superbowl era? (Which is in itself an ridiculous statement.)
 
I voted other..

I have no choice to vote other until I can see what Kubiak can do. I have stated in the past, I believe Carr has all the tools to make pretty much anythrow on the field. I just need to see if he believes it and that is Kubiaks job to get David "deprogrammed" and trust his teammates and his teammates trusting him. Once he does that, he will be looking downfield instead of looking at the rush. Right now his mindset (and David did say it) was look at 1st option, then DD ... I don't blame him due to the lack of pass blocking at times and other times the alarm went off in Carr's head that he needs to start running even when he had decent pass protection.

I believe in what I hear from the coaching staff , yet I am cautious, because I remember last season talking about how the defensive line was faster,thinner and getting after it and the offense looked better; yet when the season started, we weren't prepared for the train wreck that was going to happen.. I am still cautious on what is said with this new staff, yet I have some faith inside of me.. This is easiest the most talent we have had on the offensive side of the ball (coaching and players)
 
Can't stand Carr, will spend this entire offseason lamenting his resigning...but as I've said before...Come that first Sunday, I don't care if Adolf Hitler straps on the uniform, he is a Texan and I will cheer for him...but this offseason Im airing out all my grievances against David...make no mistake, Im sure he will fail. I hope Im wrong, but Im pretty sure Im not.
 
swtbound07 said:
Can't stand Carr, will spend this entire offseason lamenting his resigning...but as I've said before...Come that first Sunday, I don't care if Adolf Hitler straps on the uniform, he is a Texan and I will cheer for him...but this offseason Im airing out all my grievances against David...make no mistake, Im sure he will fail. I hope Im wrong, but Im pretty sure Im not.
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Hopefully Adolf has something better to be doing on Sundays instead of QB'ing our Offense, lol. :challenge (Reminds me Hitler)
 
I hope Carr get's the job done..... and doesn't look like a rookie.


I will root for him to succeed, but I'll probably start a thread everytime he screws up.......
 
Luv_ya_blue said:
I voted "Go Carr!"
I am a fan of the Texans and have been discouraged at Carr's performance as well as the teams performance over the past few years.

Which brings me to my next point...
I am also disappointed with MY performance last night on the "Carr-Basher" Thread. I lashed out at gpshafer (I think that was his name) in a way that I'm disgusted with.

It was wholely inappropriate and I'd like to apologize to him.

I was shocked to find myself on a board that stated that I "Hated Carr." I don't hate anyone! I lashed out in "the flesh" and hope that you guys don't think less of me. I was angry and wanted to put him "in his place." Not right! Totally wrong! Not a Christian thing to have done...AT ALL!

Sorry to all!
Go Texans!
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It's all good brother. We've all had to mend some fences in the past, I've gotten pretty good at mending fences here lately.

As for the vote...I voter "Go Carr" as well.
 
Not too bad. Everybody except potstirrer pretty much gave David their support, and of course with a name like that how else could he have voted? Thing I don't like is the "I hate Carr". Why exactly? Was it because, on 99% of the sacks, he had less than 2 seconds, forget the 4 second norm, to get the ball off? Is it because the QB is the most visible person in an offense, and thus is given way too much credit when things go right, and way, way too much disrespect when things go wrong? Or that he had an offensive line that had been neglected by Capers and his drafting buddies for the whole time you could call the Texans a pro football team. And was it Carr's fault that Caper's was loyal to a fault to his coaches, especially the worlds worst offensive line coach, and offensive coordinator, Pendy? No, I think potstirrer just likes to think of himself in the limelight by stirring his smug little pot. Pitiful.

I voted GO CARR! And I will outright guarantee you, that with Kubiak for a HC, and Sherman as the offensive line coach, and assistant HC, David Carr will rock!!!
 
Taking Back Sunday said:
Let's list who is a Carr supporter or basher and be done with it til the Season starts.

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I voted Carr, the success of the team is intrinsically linked with his
 
I voted for Carr - big surprise there.

There is one thing that is being overlooked. Let us not underestimate what resolve can do for a person whose career is on the line. DC isn't going to go down without a fight. He doesn't live in a cave and all of this negativity swarming about him has surely made an impact. I think we are all going to see a bigger and better David Carr. He will give this season everything he has and if it isn't enuf - so be it - but I, for one, think he is going to succeed.

We may not make the playoffs this year, but we will play some awesome football with heart. I would bet money on that..if I had any.:rolleyes:
 
Luv_ya_blue said:
I voted "Go Carr!"
I am a fan of the Texans and have been discouraged at Carr's performance as well as the teams performance over the past few years.

Which brings me to my next point...
I am also disappointed with MY performance last night on the "Carr-Basher" Thread. I lashed out at gpshafer (I think that was his name) in a way that I'm disgusted with.

It was wholely inappropriate and I'd like to apologize to him.

I was shocked to find myself on a board that stated that I "Hated Carr." I don't hate anyone! I lashed out in "the flesh" and hope that you guys don't think less of me. I was angry and wanted to put him "in his place." Not right! Totally wrong! Not a Christian thing to have done...AT ALL!

Sorry to all!
Go Texans!
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No apologies needed. Thanks for the kind thoughts, though.

I, too, was at a place (during the first few weeks of 2005 season) where I was fed up with David Carr. And I, too, wanted to vent my frustrations. But then I got to see how the whole team was just imploding under the weight of an outmatched coaching staff...and I gained a whole new level of understanding for not just David Carr, but for the whole team of PLAYERS.

Now we have a coaching staff that appears to know what today's NFL is all about, and I think Carr will do a lot better.

But some fans are holding a serious grudge against the guy for a number of reasons, most of which involve the Texans NOT taking Vince Young...a guy whom the anti-Carr crowd is in serious love with. That's a whole 'nother subject in of itself...but the point is that I support the front office when they say that Carr was not the problem--The coaching staff was.

Go Texans!
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
but the point is that I support the front office when they say that Carr was not the problem--The coaching staff was.
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Feel the same way, I will not bash anyone on the Texans for the next 2 years (Unless they make a bonehead play to deserve it or somehow Corey Bradford moseys his way back onto the team) Go Carr baby!

I think all of the players (Not just Carr) are having a "must prove themselves year" so lets support all of them (Yes, even P-buc)

:dance: :logo:
 
Luv_ya_blue said:
I voted "Go Carr!"
I am a fan of the Texans and have been discouraged at Carr's performance as well as the teams performance over the past few years.

Which brings me to my next point...
I am also disappointed with MY performance last night on the "Carr-Basher" Thread. I lashed out at gpshafer (I think that was his name) in a way that I'm disgusted with.

It was wholely inappropriate and I'd like to apologize to him.

I was shocked to find myself on a board that stated that I "Hated Carr." I don't hate anyone! I lashed out in "the flesh" and hope that you guys don't think less of me. I was angry and wanted to put him "in his place." Not right! Totally wrong! Not a Christian thing to have done...AT ALL!

Sorry to all!
Go Texans!
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Nice, "Blue"...

I voted "go Carr." I think the 4 years of experience, good, bad and ugly, along with his physical tools, were the over riding factors in Kubiaks confidence in Carr.

Mark it down, Carr will excel in the Kubiak led offense.
 
I thought that that other Carr bashers thread should have a poll so this is good. I don't think it should be Go Carr or No Carr I think it should be Carr will succeed or Carr will fail. But anyways...

I have confidence in the new staff. I have confidence in Gary Kubiak. If Gary says that Carr has a lot of talent and he will be a good QB for us, then I'm going to take his word for it and not the word of a bunch of people not even close to the situation. If anyone knows it's Gary and he's worked with some good QBs so he knows what characteristics a good QB has. Carr is going to be a good one.

Go Carr! :texflag:
 
Apparently I stand alone as the one NO.......oh well. I have faith in Sage Rosenfels...for whatever that counts for.
 
swtbound07 said:
Why is that exactly?
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because like it or not, Vince Young or not, he's the Texans's starting QB ..... if you're rooting for him to fail then you need to move on
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I must have missed that guideline when I registered for the board a couple of years ago.
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If you're rooting for the QB of the Texans to fail, you're wasting your time ..... of course it is YOUR time .....
 
chuckm said:
If you're rooting for the QB of the Texans to fail, you're wasting your time ..... of course it is YOUR time .....
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Great, just wanted to get that cleared up. However, Spicoli would say it is OUR time.
 
chuckm said:



because like it or not, Vince Young or not, he's the Texans's starting QB ..... if you're rooting for him to fail then you need to move on
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Depth Charts haven't been posted yet fellow...Im still hoping for Rosenfels to be the darkhorse. Im not rooting for him to fail, im EXPECTING it. There is a difference mind you. Im sick of watching sub-par performance. I can hear the excuses next year already ringing in my head

1) That was Carr's first year with a real QB coach and a new system...he will need time to be comfortable...but after 2007, if he STILL sucks, then we'll look at trying out some other folks at the spot.
2) The texans had a rough schedule...no QB would have done well in that situation
3) Carr had a hard time adjusting to the departure of his friend Dom Capers....he played poorly out of sadness
4) Carr looked amazing on that one drive against philly on opening day! you know, the one where the texans recovered a fumble at the Philly 10! He went 3-3 for 9 yards and a TD...that showed the brilliance of what david carr can do when you let him play his style of football
5) Carr is most comfortable playing at 75.39 degrees at kickoff, and the Reliant Stadium thermostat was set to 75.32.....he couldn't adjust in time.

Im sure there will be others, just as ridiculous as the drivel being spouted this offseason. Im not rooting for carr to fail as much as reminding everyone that it will happen. Sorry folks, my optimism is reserved for beyonce reading my fanmail.
 
chuckm said:
digression is what keeps us sane .... at least what keeps ME sane
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chuckm...how is this for digression...I am 1 year older than you...you have been a member of this board for 1 year longer than me...and I have only 10% of the total posts you have....how is that for digression....(could be wine indussed)
 
actually, the results of this poll are sad because one side has been intimidated so much it is not voting, IMO--not a good day for Democracy!!...but the season is almost here !
 
CajunTexan said:
chuckm...how is this for digression...I am 1 year older than you...you have been a member of this board for 1 year longer than me...and I have only 10% of the total posts you have....how is that for digression....(could be wine indussed)
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red or white? digression trumped
 
swtbound07 said:
Depth Charts haven't been posted yet fellow...Im still hoping for Rosenfels to be the darkhorse. Im not rooting for him to fail, im EXPECTING it. There is a difference mind you. Im sick of watching sub-par performance. I can hear the excuses next year already ringing in my head

1) That was Carr's first year with a real QB coach and a new system...he will need time to be comfortable...but after 2007, if he STILL sucks, then we'll look at trying out some other folks at the spot.
2) The texans had a rough schedule...no QB would have done well in that situation
3) Carr had a hard time adjusting to the departure of his friend Dom Capers....he played poorly out of sadness
4) Carr looked amazing on that one drive against philly on opening day! you know, the one where the texans recovered a fumble at the Philly 10! He went 3-3 for 9 yards and a TD...that showed the brilliance of what david carr can do when you let him play his style of football
5) Carr is most comfortable playing at 75.39 degrees at kickoff, and the Reliant Stadium thermostat was set to 75.32.....he couldn't adjust in time.

Im sure there will be others, just as ridiculous as the drivel being spouted this offseason. Im not rooting for carr to fail as much as reminding everyone that it will happen. Sorry folks, my optimism is reserved for beyonce reading my fanmail.
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whatever ...... when the Texans square off with the Eagles, I'll rooting for the Texans .....
 
chuckm said:
whatever ...... when the Texans square off with the Eagles, I'll rooting for the Texans .....
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Im rooting for the TEXANS too! we are on the same side....we just disagree on what that side needs to do to win.
 
swtbound07 said:
Depth Charts haven't been posted yet fellow...Im still hoping for Rosenfels to be the darkhorse. Im not rooting for him to fail, im EXPECTING it. There is a difference mind you. Im sick of watching sub-par performance. I can hear the excuses next year already ringing in my head

1) That was Carr's first year with a real QB coach and a new system...he will need time to be comfortable...but after 2007, if he STILL sucks, then we'll look at trying out some other folks at the spot.
2) The texans had a rough schedule...no QB would have done well in that situation
3) Carr had a hard time adjusting to the departure of his friend Dom Capers....he played poorly out of sadness
4) Carr looked amazing on that one drive against philly on opening day! you know, the one where the texans recovered a fumble at the Philly 10! He went 3-3 for 9 yards and a TD...that showed the brilliance of what david carr can do when you let him play his style of football
5) Carr is most comfortable playing at 75.39 degrees at kickoff, and the Reliant Stadium thermostat was set to 75.32.....he couldn't adjust in time.

Im sure there will be others, just as ridiculous as the drivel being spouted this offseason. Im not rooting for carr to fail as much as reminding everyone that it will happen. Sorry folks, my optimism is reserved for beyonce reading my fanmail.
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07...do you REALLY believe Sage is better option than Carr???!!! I am sure you are one of those that believed that Banks or Ragone was a better option last year????

By the way, what are Tony and "Little Dave" doing these days????
 
CajunTexan said:
07...do you REALLY believe Sage is better option than Carr???!!! I am sure you are one of those that believed that Banks or Ragone was a better option last year????

By the way, what are Tony and "Little Dave" doing these days????
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Sir I don't think you could find a worse option than David Carr at this point. If you have Ryan Leaf's number at this point, feel free to give him a ring, cause I would rather watch that 100 times out of 100. I really believe Sage is the better option.
 
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