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Andrew Billings - NT - Baylor

Marshall

Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I know some want a QB no matter what, but it's likely that the BIG Three Goff/Wentz/Lynch will be off the board. Elliot may be there; but, if he is gone as well, I think Billings might be there and worth the pick.

I like his power at NT and we will have to replace Wilfork. This is the NFL.com write up:

Overview


Billings was already a big name around Waco before he even agreed to play for the Bears, dominating on the high school football field (266 pancake blocks in his junior and senior years) and setting a state record in power-lifting with 2,010 total pounds at the state meet (805 squat, 705 dead lift, 500 on bench). Despite the high expectations, he somehow lived up to his billing. After contributing as a true freshman (two starts, 29 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss), Billings came into his own in 2014, receiving consensus first-team All-Big 12 notice with 37 tackles, 11.5 for loss. The league named him co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, leading Baylor with 15 tackles for loss and tying for the team lead with 5.5 sacks as he heard his name mentioned on several All-American squads. The fact he led the Bears in tackles for loss and sacks shows the athleticism and aggressive nature of his game.

Analysis


Strengths

Elite power with a weightlifting background. Generates booming power from hip explosion and when his leverage is on point, he can be menacing. Moved from offensive line to defensive line in college and is getting better by leaps and bounds each year. Drops his pad level even lower when splitting double teams and charging through gaps. Uses violent, powerful swats and slaps to free of opposing hand placement. Instant reaction time makes it difficult to cross his face. Gets arm extension into blocker and stays clean as he pursues laterally. Ridiculous closing burst to the sideline for a big man. Dominates single blocks and is a surefire tackler when he gets hands on a running back. Improving pass rusher with an effective bull rush.

Weaknesses

Top heavy. Powerful but short. Once he gets going in a direction, struggles to slow down and change directions. Recovery athleticism is average. Plays with good initial effort but an average secondary motor. Still learning techniques for the position. Raw as a pass rusher relying on power over a plan. Extremely young to play professionally. Will need positive locker room leaders to guide him as he matures.

NFL Comparison

Chris Baker

Bottom Line

Billings won't turn 21 until March of 2016, but he has the overwhelming strength of a full-grown NFL defensive tackle. With elite power and unusual closing speed for a big man, Billings has a chance to become something we rarely see -- a playmaking nose tackle with the ability to dominate at the point of attack. Teams will decide through research and interviews whether Billings can handle the NFL life at such a young age, but if he can, he has all-pro potential.

If we went that direction, I would make it a point that Vince and JJ be asked if they are willing to be team mates on the field and protective older "brothers" OFF the Field to deal with maturity concerns.
 
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I know some want a QB no matter what, but it's likely that the BIG Three Goff/Wentz/Lynch will be off the board. Elliot may be there; but, if he is gone as well, I think Billings might be there and worth the pick.

I like his power at NT and we will have to replace Wilfork. This is the NFL.com write up:

Overview


Billings was already a big name around Waco before he even agreed to play for the Bears, dominating on the high school football field (266 pancake blocks in his junior and senior years) and setting a state record in power-lifting with 2,010 total pounds at the state meet (805 squat, 705 dead lift, 500 on bench). Despite the high expectations, he somehow lived up to his billing. After contributing as a true freshman (two starts, 29 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss), Billings came into his own in 2014, receiving consensus first-team All-Big 12 notice with 37 tackles, 11.5 for loss. The league named him co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, leading Baylor with 15 tackles for loss and tying for the team lead with 5.5 sacks as he heard his name mentioned on several All-American squads. The fact he led the Bears in tackles for loss and sacks shows the athleticism and aggressive nature of his game.

Analysis


Strengths

Elite power with a weightlifting background. Generates booming power from hip explosion and when his leverage is on point, he can be menacing. Moved from offensive line to defensive line in college and is getting better by leaps and bounds each year. Drops his pad level even lower when splitting double teams and charging through gaps. Uses violent, powerful swats and slaps to free of opposing hand placement. Instant reaction time makes it difficult to cross his face. Gets arm extension into blocker and stays clean as he pursues laterally. Ridiculous closing burst to the sideline for a big man. Dominates single blocks and is a surefire tackler when he gets hands on a running back. Improving pass rusher with an effective bull rush.

Weaknesses

Top heavy. Powerful but short. Once he gets going in a direction, struggles to slow down and change directions. Recovery athleticism is average. Plays with good initial effort but an average secondary motor. Still learning techniques for the position. Raw as a pass rusher relying on power over a plan. Extremely young to play professionally. Will need positive locker room leaders to guide him as he matures.

NFL Comparison

Chris Baker

Bottom Line

Billings won't turn 21 until March of 2016, but he has the overwhelming strength of a full-grown NFL defensive tackle. With elite power and unusual closing speed for a big man, Billings has a chance to become something we rarely see -- a playmaking nose tackle with the ability to dominate at the point of attack. Teams will decide through research and interviews whether Billings can handle the NFL life at such a young age, but if he can, he has all-pro potential.

If we went that direction, I would make it a point that Vince and JJ be asked if they are willing to be team mates on the field and protective older "brothers" OFF the Field to deal with maturity concerns.
I wouldn't be against this pick. The Texans locker room would probably be an excellent influence on him.
 
This position deep and while I would not squall at #22, we can get a very good NT as late as 4th round. I keep coming back to Docston in first. Zerlein recently compared him to Nuk which I have been doing for months. Our QB will enjoy having another WR that catches every ball near him. Not sure I see Mumphries role as returner with few reps at WR changing.
 
This position deep and while I would not squall at #22, we can get a very good NT as late as 4th round. I keep coming back to Docston in first. Zerlein recently compared him to Nuk which I have been doing for months. Our QB will enjoy having another WR that catches every ball near him. Not sure I see Mumphries role as returner with few reps at WR changing.

So then we would have 3 receivers with similar skill sets? Both Hops and Strong, were considered bigger receivers (6'+ 200lbs+), but not freakishly large (6'4"+) both were great at going up and high pointing the ball and winning those 50/50 battles. Both known for strong hands, however neither will create separation with speed. While i like Doctson idk why we would bring in a 3rd receiver who almost reads identically with 2 of our other receivers. We need to get some diversity back there and some speed
 
So then we would have 3 receivers with similar skill sets? Both Hops and Strong, were considered bigger receivers (6'+ 200lbs+), but not freakishly large (6'4"+) both were great at going up and high pointing the ball and winning those 50/50 battles. Both known for strong hands, however neither will create separation with speed. While i like Doctson idk why we would bring in a 3rd receiver who almost reads identically with 2 of our other receivers. We need to get some diversity back there and some speed
3rd highest yardage in NFL (Hopkins) and you want something different? I am big proponent of speed but yes I will take a clone of Hopkins.
 
3rd highest yardage in NFL (Hopkins) and you want something different? I am big proponent of speed but yes I will take a clone of Hopkins.

How bout Hopkins with speed? I want to attack defenses on as many dimensions (depth) as possible.

No slight to Hopkins (ok lets clone him) ,but a competent deep threat makes Hopkins and our running game more effective...we might actually see the rare and endangered "Texan's te" do something. Nah, never mind. Te's went extinct when the Kubiak ice age ended.

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How bout Hopkins with speed? I want to attack defenses on as dimensions (depth) as possible.

No slight to Hopkins (ok lets clone him) ,but a competent deep threat makes Hopkins and our running game more effective...we might actually see the rare and endangered "Texan's te" do something. Nah, never mind. Te's went extinct when the Kubiak ice age ended.

Exactly, we already have a Dhop clone in Strong. Same body type same strengths etc. why wouldnt you want to add an Antonio Brown type to the mix to add a different layer to this offense?
 
let's discuss whom you think that is. I am open to changing my mind. Coleman is interesting but drops a lot of passes in middle of field, I believe. Will our QB be able to throw deep consistently and accurately?

Edit: Coleman on outside and Strong in slot would be interesting.
 
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let's discuss whom you think that is. I am open to changing my mind. Coleman is interesting but drops a lot of passes in middle of field, I believe. Will our QB be able to throw deep consistently and accurately?

I want some speed like a Bralon Addison would bring
 
let's discuss whom you think that is. I am open to changing my mind. Coleman is interesting but drops a lot of passes in middle of field, I believe. Will our QB be able to throw deep consistently and accurately?

Why would we be going high on a WR with no QB?
 
Why would we be going high on a WR with no QB?
whomever we have at QB will need as many options as possible; WRs, RBs and TEs offer that. I do not have Henry rated as high as most. I want to draft Coker who would be perfect with our WRs + Docston. I also want Alex Collins RB
 
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