Am I the only one rootin' for Young to be drafted?!

[jerek]

No, you are not the only person who wants the Texans to take Young with the first pick. But, given the Texan's exercised the option on Carr's contract, the probability of it happening dropped to about 5%. I see no use in splashing messages touting something that isn't going to happen.

Frankly, given the pounding that Carr has taken over the last 4 years, I just don't think he is a serviceable QB any longer and Young would be a much better option to lead this team in the future.

Also, the argument of winning now really has little merit. It’s funny how a new coaching staff and a few marginal FA have made the fan base forget that this team was 2-14 last year. The 2005 team was worse then the original team fielded in the first year. We have a long road ahead of us.

The same place I was last year - one of the few remaining Texans fans in the stadium at the 2:00 min. warning.

Amen to that. I stay in my seat until there is 0:00 remaining in the fourth. Every game.

And yeah, I think our 2005 team was worse than the 2002 team in a lot of respects, but I believe our coaching staff alone could take that same 2005 team and tack at least another 4 wins on to the schedule.

Maybe you or others would not agree, but I blame our coaching for a lot of last year. We have had a decent FA to this point and I would like to see us have a really good draft to take into the second half of the offseason.

 

[dannyboy]

Lets mirror this discussion to the 2001 draft and players that Young and Bush are comparred to. Would you now 5 yrs later rather have playing for your team, Vick (Young), or Tomlinson (Bush)?

In both cases, I'd go with the guy that was born and raised in Texas. That should always be the deciding factor for a team that calls themselves the Texans.

 

[awtysst]

I have already made my opinions well known. If you are not sure look at my Avatar.

 

[dirty steve]

Any school can put a trophy in a case. Much like Joe Pa did for his Penn State team that went undefeated and had nothing to show for it. If it will make you and the rest of these USC, California (posing as Texan) fans happy, hell I say give them the National Championship for the next 10 years too. How's that?

this is alot different than a wolf putting on sheep's clothing. half of the sect that is allowed a vote in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP voting selected USC, whether you like it or not. as soon as you get a vote in the picking of the national champion, then you could have a legit beef. i mean, your squad is the reigning national champion, so what does it matter? they knocked off the 2-time defending national champions.

 

[whiskeyrbl]

If that is how you feel, that our FA moves excludes Vince from coming to Houston. That is fine. I don't have a problem with that. But you have got to understand the frustration VY fans feel when they are told over and over again how Vince won't make it in the NFL. That NFL defenders are better tacklers, that they are bigger and stronger, and his 6'4" 230lb frame won't be able to take the punishment. While 5'11-1/2" Reggie is going to be able to run right past those same defenders, and absorb those same hits.

It's also frustrating to hear from fellow fans that we need to supplement our running game, and there is absolutely nothing to concern ourselves over our 4 year project QB..... 5 year.

Then, when guys like Doug Flutie, Steve Young, Dante Culpepper, Donovan McNabb, Randall Cunningham, Aaron Brooks, Ben Rothlisberger, Michael Vick, & even Quincy Carter has experienced success relatively early(with the exception of Flutie) in their NFL careers, relatively recently, You've got folks saying Vince's ability to be successful is slim to none. We should expect 2-3 years of a non-competive teams. This from a team that has won 18 out of 64 games. Yet Matt Lienart is a sure thing. Never mind the recent busts of the pocket passers who came from "Pro-style" college offenses, who were also ranked #1.

The funniest thing... I think, is when they criticize Vince's throwing motion. As if David has perfect form...... sheesh.

I understand the frustration ,I think Bush and Young are the two best ATHLETES coming out of college this year. My main question about Young is if he will be able to read the defenses under center as well as he does from the shotgun(spread) formation.The perfect scenario would be to have both but that ain't happening. I think the FO wants to win now,as opposed to 2-3 years from now.And with the speculation we are going to run a Denver type offense( RBC ) I just think that points to Bush.

 

[whiskeyrbl]

In both cases, I'd go with the guy that was born and raised in Texas. That should always be the deciding factor for a team that calls themselves the Texans.

Thank God Billy Joe Tolliver is not available!

 

[bklatch]

I'd rather the Texans make the playoffs next year not in five years.

Reggie Bush!

Why do you think a third down back will get you to the plafoffs anytime soon?

 

[swtbound07]

this is alot different than a wolf putting on sheep's clothing. half of the sect that is allowed a vote in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP voting selected USC, whether you like it or not. as soon as you get a vote in the picking of the national champion, then you could have a legit beef. i mean, your squad is the reigning national champion, so what does it matter? they knocked off the 2-time defending national champions.

Yes, but they agreed while the system was being implemented to vote for the winner of the BCS game, so there was no split champions. They violated their agreement, and in turn nullified the decision they reached. If the AP vote mattered, why would they play the BCS game? LSU was the sole national champion. If the AP had voted the title to Auburn would you be claiming USC's championship deserved to be split? of course not....you come off as horrendously pro USC

 

[whiskeyrbl]

Why do you think a third down back will get you to the plafoffs anytime soon?

WHAT!!!!!!with Bush we won't have any 3rd downs........LOL

 

[TheOgre]

So I guess when LSU, the one that played in the BCS title game, won the AP says we make USC our champ. That would be the equivalent of Texas beating USC this year and the AP giving their vote to USC.

Your comparison is flawed. LSU didn't beat USC head-to-head in 2003. Texas did beat USC head-to-head in 2005.

Actually imagine for moment if Virginia Tech had gone undefeated and won the ACC Championship this year. They would have been undefeated and likely in 3rd place entering the bowls. Now imagine that they then won their BCS bowl game. The AP votes for VT instead of UT. That would have been the equivalent of 2003. USC was actually 1st in both polls entering the bowls. If any team should feel robbed due to the system, it should have been them. In fact, they changed the rules as a result of that f-ed up season. Don't get me wrong, I am not a USC fan, but they deserved a share of the 2003 title AT THE VERY LEAST.

Now if you want to talk about a team that didn't deserve a national title, look no further than the 1990 Colorado Buffaloes.

 

[TheOgre]

As for Young, I think he will be a good to great QB in the NFL. My issue is that I think it is premature to cash in Carr's chips. DD has shown us all he can do, and he is mediocre at best. He has played behind a good run blocking line. I think it is safe to say that we could do better.

To date, Carr has been pretty bad, but I don't think we have given him a chance to succeed. He has played behind perhaps the worst pass blocking scheme/team in history. He has also had receivers that don't get separation. I'd like to see what he can do with some actual open targets and some semblance of pass blocking. He may still be a bust, but I think he deserves a fighting chance before we prematurely toss him aside. He needs to make significant strides this year.

 

[whiskeyrbl]

As for Young, I think he will be a good to great QB in the NFL. My issue is that I think it is premature to cash in Carr's chips. DD has shown us all he can do, and he is mediocre at best. He has played behind a good run blocking line. I think it is safe to say that we could do better.

To date, Carr has been pretty bad, but I don't think we have given him a chance to succeed. He has played behind perhaps the worst pass blocking scheme/team in history. He has also had receivers that don't get separation. I'd like to see what he can do with some actual open targets and some semblance of pass blocking. He may still be a bust, but I think he deserves a fighting chance before we prematurely toss him aside. He needs to make significant strides this year.

Well said

 

[Maddict5]

i can't figure out why we would ever need a qb who can get down field when all of his other options aren't there. D.C. did a great job running out of bounds last year for no gain of right into the hands of a defender.
if you truely think that a good center can make up for D.C.'s inability to make a quick, and good, decision then i say draft Bush, but everything that D.C. has shown me indicates that he's just not that good unless he has an hour to get rid of the ball.
V.Y. has shown the ability to make good quick decisions and the ability to drive a comeback to win a game (and not just the rose bowl, just ask OSU he did it to them twice). I just don't think that D.C. is the type of qb that make the big play, but i do agree that we need someone who can do that.
I hope we can move on from D.C. soon, but if not i'd be fine with Bush, or Young, or Williams etc....

luckily for us, we have kubiak in charge, you know, some1 that knows what they're talkin about

 

[uhcougar08]

Yall do know that USC's offense ran the exact same offense as the Denver Broncos, which was quoted by 610 AM and John McClain. Which means, Reggie is a perfect fit for our new offensive scheme. For example: cut backs, and zone blocking schemes. By the way, when in the heck will the Texan's offense run a constant shotgun formation? They won't, therefore VY will have a mountain to climb just to make it in the NFL. He DOES NOT READ DEFENSES, at all. Why is this still being debated? He may be the biggest athletic freak ever to enter the NFL, but that freaky style will not be able to succeed in the pros. Hello VY supporters. Learn something about what you speak of, and a little football, please.

 

[AustinJB]

No way anyone said that, Their Offense was the best ever, NO way on their D.

ESPN hyped them as the best TEAM ever. Best offense and solid defense.

Every time they would mention the defense, they would claim that "this is a very solid defense and you can't overlook them....they excel in forcing turnovers." ESPN didn't claim that they had the best defense ever, but they consistantly said that they were good at what they did...bending but not breaking and forcing turnovers.

Now, since VY led Texas to victory (and didn't turn the ball over at all) everyone is saying that USC's defense sucked. Give me a break people!

 

[AustinJB]

Look fellow Texan fans this is a once in a lifetime guarantee that either us or (I hope not) another team gettin' a rare talent that can clearly help any team out especially at comebacks not just lookin' at the Rose Bowl but other games as well any opinions?! Or do ya''ll think otherwise?

No, you're not the only one.

I still believe VY would be the best pick for the Texans...especially in the long-term, since I have no faith in Carr and believe that we'll be looking for a QB in about two years (ironically, about the time that VY should be ready to start.)

However, at this point, I do feel it is unlikely that we'll draft him...and, as others have mentioned, I'm also too tired of this topic to get into these long explanations of why he would be the best option...especially since most posters will criticize you for it (if you're interested, look at my previous posts.)

I've decided that it's best to just keep hoping, keep my fingers crossed, not get into all these pointless arguments, and let things happen as they will (b/c I will be a Texan fan regardless.) Hopefully, we won't have to witness VY winning Superbowls for the either of the evil owner twins...Bud Adams or Al Davis. Regardless, I think VY will be a helluva NFL QB...and if we don't get him, years down the road we will wish we had. But hey, that's JMO.

 

[texplayer2]

ESPN hyped them as the best TEAM ever. Best offense and solid defense.

Every time they would mention the defense, they would claim that "this is a very solid defense and you can't overlook them....they excel in forcing turnovers." ESPN didn't claim that they had the best defense ever, but they consistantly said that they were good at what they did...bending but not breaking and forcing turnovers.

Now, since VY led Texas to victory (and didn't turn the ball over at all) everyone is saying that USC's defense sucked. Give me a break people!

Actually the ball did come loose, Texas was just efficent at recovering the ball. The turnovers came with teams in desperate situations and forcing things. They have good athletes they were just not experienced enough, and were the weak point, along with several injuries.

 

[Tejaspro]

Come on man seriously he is better than Bush IMO by far.

You said it all with "IMO". That's just it, Johnny. It's your opinion. And that's ok. But you don't seem to realize that most everyone else (including all the prognatocators) believes that Bush is better. VY is not even considered the best QB. Most have him ranked second, some third. Hey, you may be right, and he may revolutionize the sport, but the odds are against it. Bush is a safe bet to be a star. Vince may turn out the be all you say, but it's too big a gamble for the top spot. However, if the Texans chose VY on the first pick, myself (as a loyal Texans fan) along with most everyone else will support whomever is chosen.

 

[mes311]

Actually most scouts have Vince Young rated as the best overall talent in this years draft.

Haven't seen this anywhere. Where did you hear it from?

 

[Tejaspro]

Why do you think a third down back will get you to the plafoffs anytime soon?

Why would anyone in their right mind draft a "third down back"? If you think Bush is only a third down back, you are mistaken. I remember when the prognastocators called DD a third down back. Were they wrong?

 

[Tejaspro]

Actually most scouts have Vince Young rated as the best overall talent in this years draft. He is believed to have the most upside to being successful in his career, the only problem he has going for him is that the media hates Texas, and everyone from Texas. If Bush was coming out from Texas, the cat from Memphis would be rated top RB coming out by every scout in the draft. It Happens every year, they did it with Derrick Thomas, Roy Williams, even Ricky Williams. No matter how great the kid is, if he is coming out from Texas the media are going to hate them.

Turp, you may be right about the media. I don't know. I have never heard anything negative about Texas here in Southern California. Even when Texas was going to play USC. Here in our household, we rooted for Texas even though I went to the U of H. We root for all the Texas teams. It's part of being a Texan. You root for any and all Texas teams.... even the Aggies. I'm just thankful that the Texans are playing football. I loved the Oilers (even attended their first ever practice at the U of H), right up until Bud Adams took them to Tennesee. Thank God, I have a Texas NFL team to root far. I have Sunday prime ticket and see every game. Even my son (who was born in So Cal) wears a UT hat and is a Texans fan. He was lucky enough to go to a winning Texans game last year when he came to Houston to visit his grandmother. I believe you become even more a true "Texan" when you no longer live in Texas. You may not be in Texas, but you can believe one thing.... Texas is always in your heart. It's going to be a fun year, whoever they draft. Go Texans!

 

[HJam72]

Look fellow Texan fans this is a once in a lifetime guarantee that either us or (I hope not) another team gettin' a rare talent that can clearly help any team out especially at comebacks not just lookin' at the Rose Bowl but other games as well any opinions?! Or do ya''ll think otherwise?

Yes we do.

 

[HJam72]

I have never heard anything negative about Texas here in Southern California.

And you can rest assured that us Texans never say anything bad about Californians.

Honestly, turp might be right about the media thing, to a certain extent. They hear a southern drawl and think we're stupid and then Mr. "Who's the Heisman now!?!?!" scores a 6 on a Wonderlic test right after leaving the University of Texas. Oh well.

 

[YoungTexanFan]

yes, you stand alone.

now, please remove yourself from this board.

haha, I got blasted for this comment. -3 Rep points. I was just starting to get back into the whole point system too. Alas.

 

[ToroFan]

Please. not another VY thread....

We don't need him, don't want him. and we are not going to draft him..
End of story.....

Let's take this line by line...
Don't need him? --> It's funny when you are 2-14 and the worst team in the NFL, I think pretty much nothing is off limits in terms of a make over. And pretty much in most cases a lot of the responsibility is placed on the QB, considering it has been 4 years nows that Carr has been at the helm. . I think Kubes will do whatever it takes to win a superbowl, not just have immediate success in the short term.

Don't want him? --> Maybe you don't, but there are others that do. Kubiak is obviously interested enough that he is basically only talking to Reggie Bush and Vince Young

Not going to draft him? --> I guess that is why Kubes is wasting his time at UT's pro day and having VY come in next week. He must have nothing better to do. I think if Kubiak feels like VY is an Elway like prospect, he is going to take him. Also consider that Kubes comes from the Denver philosophy where RB's are drafted low and still succeed pretty well. And consider that Kubes is good friends with Greg Davis (UT's Off. Coordinator) so he will probably be privy to insider information that other coaches won't get.

This isn't the end of the story, but nice try.

 

[ToroFan]

As he said before................ Maybe you just did not understand what he said. Its okay.

No I understood what he said, because I can read Do you happen to see things in his post that others don't?

 

[ToroFan]

You keep wishing and hold on, but I am afraid you will be dissapointed on April 29.

I am not saying that they will draft VY, but I disagree with those that say we categorically won't.

 

[jerek]

I think it is time for me to bring out my bet again. So far, for all of the yapping I have heard about we could or will still take Vince, I don't see anyone stepping forward to back it up with so much as a dime. So far Big B is the only one with balls enough to put his cash where his talk is.

50 bucks says Vince will not be drafted a Texan. If that is too stout for you, we can go lower.

Any takers?

Come on, if I am such a sucker or a know-it-all, take advantage of my stupidity and let's bet on this already. Make me rich or make me poor, but don't shy away from putting some teeth in your words.

 

[ToroFan]

I think it is time for me to bring out my bet again. So far, for all of the yapping I have heard about we could or will still take Vince, I don't see anyone stepping forward to back it up with so much as a dime. So far Big B is the only one with balls enough to put his cash where his talk is.

50 bucks says Vince will not be drafted a Texan. If that is too stout for you, we can go lower.

Any takers?

Come on, if I am such a sucker or a know-it-all, take advantage of my stupidity and let's bet on this already. Make me rich or make me poor, but don't shy away from putting some teeth in your words.

I find your post pretty funny. It is a message board afterall, I am pretty sure putting teeth in my words on an anonymous message board will help me sleep better at night. My father always told me a true test of a man's word is when one wagers when provoked on a computer message board.

If you really want to be rich or poor and you truly believe what you say, then go to a real betting site (instead of a message board) and wager something on it. Better yet put your whole life savings on it. I am sure some site will give you action and those site always have odds. Then you truly will be the king of the Texans message board.

 

[bad]

I find your post pretty funny. It is a message board afterall, I am pretty sure putting teeth in my words on an anonymous message board will help me sleep better at night. My father always told me a true test of a man's word is when one wagers when provoked on a computer message board.

If you really want to be rich or poor and you truly believe what you say, then go to a real betting site (instead of a message board) and wager something on it. Better yet put your whole life savings on it. I am sure some site will give you action and those site always have odds. Then you truly will be the king of the Texans message board.

Two words: Pay. Pal.

Two more: Suc. Ker.

The Houston Texans will select Bush and keep him. The crowds will go wild. Sit back and enjoy.

 

[jerek]

I find your post pretty funny. It is a message board afterall, I am pretty sure putting teeth in my words on an anonymous message board will help me sleep better at night. My father always told me a true test of a man's word is when one wagers when provoked on a computer message board.

If you really want to be rich or poor and you truly believe what you say, then go to a real betting site (instead of a message board) and wager something on it. Better yet put your whole life savings on it. I am sure some site will give you action and those site always have odds. Then you truly will be the king of the Texans message board.

If that was supposed to be some kind of stunning rebuttal ... well, I am stunned, but it had nothing to do with your razor wit.

I am glad you find me funny, and thank you for pointing me to these "real betting" sites, but there is one substantial difference. Actually, two. The first is that I won't get 1:1 action on not drafting Vince on "real sites," since no major group of people outside of this message board seriously think we will draft Vince. Second, and more importantly, I hang here because I enjoy talking football, but the "Vince will father my child" monkey slobber gets old the 1,000,000th or so time you read it. Seriously, I don't think I have the patience to hit block for all of you. So I was hoping that, seeing as I how I must read it in the process of taking in good discussion and useful information, that I could at least take some cash off some people's hands in the process. If you don't want to participate, then don't. In the meanwhile, save your witty writing and fatherly anecdotes for someone who will be impressed.

Any one else?

 

[ToroFan]

Two words: Pay. Pal.

Two more: Suc. Ker.

The Houston Texans will select Bush and keep him. The crowds will go wild. Sit back and enjoy.

It's also unenforceable if a party reneges, because it is illegal. No thanks, if I wanted to bet I would do it through those sites because they operate offshore.

Suc. Ker must be your name. Don't come to a battle of wits unarmed. You'll just embarass yourself.

 

[ToroFan]

If that was supposed to be some kind of stunning rebuttal ... well, I am stunned, but it had nothing to do with your razor wit.

I am glad you find me funny, and thank you for pointing me to these "real betting" sites, but there is one substantial difference. Actually, two. The first is that I won't get 1:1 action on not drafting Vince on "real sites," since no major group of people outside of this message board seriously think we will draft Vince. Second, and more importantly, I hang here because I enjoy talking football, but the "Vince will father my child" monkey slobber gets old the 1,000,000th or so time you read it. Seriously, I don't think I have the patience to hit block for all of you. So I was hoping that, seeing as I how I must read it in the process of taking in good discussion and useful information, that I could at least take some cash off some people's hands in the process. If you don't want to participate, then don't. In the meanwhile, save your witty writing and fatherly anecdotes for someone who will be impressed.

Any one else?

You must be a comedian because your same logic can be used against you.

I am not sure how "good discussion or useful information" pertains to your comments about betting.

You're right I am not going to participate, because if I did I would do it at a bettor site where I would get better than 1:1 payout. That is because usually betting on one player to getting chose at a particular pick will get you more.

And geez, you figured me out. I was writing to impress just you. i was seeking your approval alone. Again we all bow down to the king of the Texans message board.

Please spare me.


P.S. you replied to my message with your inane bet, so solicit your bets elsewhere cowboy...

 

[bad]

It's also unenforceable if a party reneges, because it is illegal. No thanks, if I wanted to bet I would do it through those sites because they operate offshore.

Suc. Ker must be your name. Don't come to a battle of wits unarmed. You'll just embarass yourself.

So the bet's off?

Maybe the next time you insult someone's intelligence you should try to spell all the words correctly. Just a suggestion.

Another suggestion. Lighten up. People bet real money all the time. It's an American tradition to bet on Super Bowl pools. What exactly is your problem with America? Or traditions, for that matter?

It's March Madness. My brackets were in shambles from the first day and here I am still smiling, ready to make some side money off of an unrealistic dreamer.

Excuuuuuse me.

 

[ToroFan]

So the bet's off?

Maybe the next time you insult someone's intelligence you should try to spell all the words correctly. Just a suggestion.

Another suggestion. Lighten up. People bet real money all the time. It's an American tradition to bet on Super Bowl pools. What exactly is your problem with America? Or traditions, for that matter?

It's March Madness. My brackets were in shambles from the first day and here I am still smiling, ready to make some side money off of an unrealistic dreamer.

Excuuuuuse me.

I may not spell some words by accident because my keyboard skills are not so hot, or do you mean when I said sucker was two words instead of one (oh wait that wasn't me).

I believe you were the one calling me a sucker, so no need to be excused.

Betting is fine with me. Super bowl pools. March Madness brackets. I get it.

Soliciting bets on an internet message board is a bit silly when better odds and a more likely payout are readily available elsewhere just by opening up a new browser.

 

[infantrycak]

ya'll

*cough* "y'all" *cough*

Folks--the betting thing isn't going anywhere. I hear however there is an excellent debate on how many national titles USC had before this year. j/k

Is there really a point in debating the non-merits of whose ouidji board/hopes/expectations are better?

 

[ToroFan]

*cough* "y'all" *cough*

Folks--the betting thing isn't going anywhere. I hear however there is an excellent debate on how many national titles USC had before this year. j/k

Is there really a point in debating the non-merits of whose ouidji board/hopes/expectations are better?

You're right, I'm done with it. Although I will go to my grave saying my ouidji board is damn good.

 

[TexanBorn51]

bump

 

[thunderkyss]

As for Young, I think he will be a good to great QB in the NFL. My issue is that I think it is premature to cash in Carr's chips. DD has shown us all he can do, and he is mediocre at best. He has played behind a good run blocking line. I think it is safe to say that we could do better.

I don't think it is possible to be very bad at pass blocking, and very good at run blocking. If anything, we know we were very bad at pass blocking, and fair to middle on run blocking. You can't attribute everything that DD has done to the line, and say that we've already seen the best of him. DD has not been our only running back in our 4 year history. None of our other chumps could put up what DD has for us. None of them has given us a legitimate running game like DD has. Improve the line, and watch him become one of the leagues best.

This "we haven't been fair to Carr" & "we've seen DD, he's mediocre at best" stuff is crap...... pure crap.

Anytalks of D'Angelo?? Addai?? Any other running back?? If we get that Ricky Williams type trade, do we go after a Starting running back??

All You guys arguing against Vince are playing yourselves..... The same arguments you have, work just as well against Reggie. Except while you don't want to get rid of Carr, who has not proven that he can handle the job...... you're ready to throw away the best part of your team. It's the same thing, and you know it. Sure, you can have DD & Reggie on the field at the same time...... but it's not likely to happen, unless you convert DD into a full back, and that ain't going to happen. He'll be on the team this year, but the chances of him retiring as a Texan drops dramatically if we Draft Reggie. Carr..... he's signed for three more years, he can be a Texan for two more years tops(1 if I had my way) before we trade him. Same as DD, if you draft Reggie.

No way anyone said that, Their Offense was the best ever, NO way on their D.

They said it for a month......... they said the high powered offense made up for the defense, which was good enough to get them through the season undefeated. The SuperBowl Rams will be going down as one of the great NFL teams, even though they had no D. The SuperBowl Ravens will be one of those Great NFL teams, even though they had no O.

Actually, they said USC's corners were the best Vince had seen to date.... & he'd have to rely on his legs to move the ball. That was one of the reasons they didn't give UT a chance in hell to win that game. It wasn't even going to be close, according to ESPN

I think it is time for me to bring out my bet again. So far, for all of the yapping I have heard about we could or will still take Vince, I don't see anyone stepping forward to back it up with so much as a dime. So far Big B is the only one with balls enough to put his cash where his talk is.

50 bucks says Vince will not be drafted a Texan. If that is too stout for you, we can go lower.

Any takers?

Come on, if I am such a sucker or a know-it-all, take advantage of my stupidity and let's bet on this already. Make me rich or make me poor, but don't shy away from putting some teeth in your words.

We're not drafting Vince..... I've said it, and if you could read, a lot of Vince Supporters have said it. I don't get your point, unless you just like looking like an ***. I think it is a mistake, I won't back down from that, until David either win 3 in a row,or a playoff game....... you want to bet on who'll be doing that first?? $50 I'm taking Vince, let me know where you stand. I take PayPal.

Did you collect money for the Babin Pick?? or did you not see that one coming?? How about the picks we lost for Buchanon?? did you get that one right too?? Or are you as clueless now, as you were back then?? With everything we've done so far, it looks like we're going to draft Reggie, Especially with only 2 backs on our roster. But you never know what's going to happen.

What's the harm in letting people explore their fantasies?? Doesn't hurt you none, at least it shouldn't.

Second, and more importantly, I hang here because I enjoy talking football, but the "Vince will father my child" monkey slobber gets old the 1,000,000th or so time you read it.

So I was hoping that, seeing as I how I must read it in the process of taking in good discussion and useful information, that I could at least take some cash off some people's hands in the process.

where?? I've seen more broke back Reggie moments on this board, and in this thread than any of the Vince=Superman stuff you're pretending to see.

If you don't want to participate, then don't. In the meanwhile, save your witty writing and fatherly anecdotes for someone who will be impressed.

Any one else?

You've got to admit that was funny......... I thought it was.

 

[Maddict5]

I find your post pretty funny. It is a message board afterall, I am pretty sure putting teeth in my words on an anonymous message board will help me sleep better at night. My father always told me a true test of a man's word is when one wagers when provoked on a computer message board.

If you really want to be rich or poor and you truly believe what you say, then go to a real betting site (instead of a message board) and wager something on it. Better yet put your whole life savings on it. I am sure some site will give you action and those site always have odds. Then you truly will be the king of the Texans message board.

you could've saved yourself alot of typing by just saying:

i know im clutching at unrealistic straws...i respectfully decline your offer

 

[Maddict5]

haha, I got blasted for this comment. -3 Rep points. I was just starting to get back into the whole point system too. Alas.

lol..know what you mean..i got loads of bad rep for taking on kaiser toro a few days ago...each day since is a struggle...

 

[jerek]

You must be a comedian because your same logic can be used against you.

I am not sure how "good discussion or useful information" pertains to your comments about betting.

You're right I am not going to participate, because if I did I would do it at a bettor site where I would get better than 1:1 payout. That is because usually betting on one player to getting chose at a particular pick will get you more.

And geez, you figured me out. I was writing to impress just you. i was seeking your approval alone. Again we all bow down to the king of the Texans message board.

Please spare me.


P.S. you replied to my message with your inane bet, so solicit your bets elsewhere cowboy...

Follow the logic here:

1. I am personally weary of hearing about Vince Young and how we are going to draft him. (no TK, this does not include you)
2. I have an idea that I think will be fun. I decide to offer a bet to anyone who thinks we are going to draft Vince Young. Still with me?
3. Apparently, this displeases you, and you write a sarcastic though unfunny response in which you are the sole narcissistic (sp?) object of my entire anti-Vince posting history, and among other irrelevant statements, you declare me "king of the message board." Okay then.
4. If you still don't want to participate, or find it silly, I still propose you go into the kitchen and have a glass of STFU to calm your nerves. I find your words silly.

And TK, no, I will not take your 3-game bet, because if Vince goes to a substantially more complete team than ours (and I mean, what are the chances of that, we were the worst team in the league last year so if we pass on him then ____), he by default has improved odds on winning those three games before David Carr. If you want to bet, we will wait and see where Vince goes, and I might well be able to take you up on that. Does he have to start those three games, or can he be on the bench?

I did not think we were going to take Babin, but I wasn't nearly so certain on who we would take that I would have bet against us taking Babin. For that matter, who in the hell saw us even looking at him that year? Us taking Babin would be like us taking, oh, I don't know, who's a projected second rounder this year? with the #1. If you are trying to talk me out of backing down from this betting thing, you are not doing a good job.

This has become bickering with the Dr. and TK, so I am going to leave it alone and leave this thread alone, but don't ask me to compile a list of all of the Vince man love in the last week alone, let alone following the Rose Bowl. I don't think this server has the space for me to rehash it all. I certainly don't have the time.

Bet still stands, if any non-whiners want to take it. It was offered in fun so I hope it can be viewed as fun. If not then forgive me for wasting your time, or feel free to exercise that ignore key.

 

[thunderkyss]

I did not think we were going to take Babin, but I wasn't nearly so certain on who we would take that I would have bet against us taking Babin. For that matter, who in the hell saw us even looking at him that year? Us taking Babin would be like us taking, oh, I don't know, who's a projected second rounder this year? with the #1. If you are trying to talk me out of backing down from this betting thing, you are not doing a good job.

That's the point.... who the heck is Babin?? That was so far off everyones radar.... who knew....... I'm saying Reggie looks like the most logical pick for us at this point...... chances are, we'll be drafting Reggie....... but..... stranger things have happened.

 

[jerek]

That's the point.... who the heck is Babin?? That was so far off everyones radar.... who knew....... I'm saying Reggie looks like the most logical pick for us at this point...... chances are, we'll be drafting Reggie....... but..... stranger things have happened.

True that. I hope Kubes restores some sense of normalcy ... Babin was graded a second rounder if I remember right, and I have no idea why in hell we thought we needed to get the jump on him. Still, as much as I dislike some of Chuck's decision making, he has done pretty well for us. I like AJ, Dunta, Mathis, Pitts, Davis, just off the top of my head. I liked Gaffney, just thought we didn't use him well. Sure I could come up with more.

 

[thunderkyss]

True that. I hope Kubes restores some sense of normalcy ... Babin was graded a second rounder if I remember right, and I have no idea why in hell we thought we needed to get the jump on him. Still, as much as I dislike some of Chuck's decision making, he has done pretty well for us. I like AJ, Dunta, Mathis, Pitts, Davis, just off the top of my head. I liked Gaffney, just thought we didn't use him well. Sure I could come up with more.

Truth be told, I like Babin too. I don't think he performed like a first rounder, but he's really learning a new position, and defensive mindset. I'm really interested in what he'll do in the 4-3.

 

[chuckm]

Babin was graded a second rounder if I remember right, and I have no idea why in hell we thought we needed to get the jump on him. Still, as much as I dislike some of Chuck's decision making, he has done pretty well for us.

The way I've heard it quite a few times from several sources, Babin was not CC's choice. He was told by Fangio and Capers that they had to have Babin.

 

[jerek]

Truth be told, I like Babin too. I don't think he performed like a first rounder, but he's really learning a new position, and defensive mindset. I'm really interested in what he'll do in the 4-3.

I don't dislike Babin other than we used a first rounder on him, but that's probably not his fault. He has the size/speed to be good, I guess I just question how dedicated to the game he is. Maybe it is just injury issues that have kept him out of a better light and I hope he continues to play well and improve, he looked good toward the end of last season.

P.S. What the hell is this? A VY/RB thread that got off track on another player besides David Carr?

 

[thunderkyss]

P.S. What the hell is this? A VY/RB thread that got off track on another player besides David Carr?

You know what they say about a gift horse??

 

[TexansLucky13]

I don't think it is possible to be very bad at pass blocking, and very good at run blocking.

You obviously have never heard of Todd Wade.

 

[texplayer2]

Yea whatever he had a good pro day, so what, I mean the dude was suppose to do all that he's a RB. But still, I'm all for VY, just because IMO I know VY is better than Bush, from leadership to poise. I know everybody thinks he's the best back to ever come out,.......dude come on everybody said that 'bout Rashaan Salaam where's he now? I mean not just him, several people. But hey I know Kubes coaching skills therefore he'll draft a good late round back and pass on Bush just to get the man of the year and years to come, VY.

26 more days.