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All you Reggie lovers better run and hide

Texas_Thrill said:
I think he did a wonderful job for someone who seemed to be used more as a decoy. He wasn't consistenly put into the offense which I feel like a playmaker of his capability has to be kept in the game and got into the flow of the game.

I didn't see them try to get favorable match-ups for him. I was disappointed b/c I wanted to see him and VY just explode last night but to say all of a sudden he sucks is ridiculous.

There you go this is right from a Vince Young lover. Stop basing the entire draft on one game.
 
Joeymousepad said:
There you go this is right from a Vince Young lover. Stop basing the entire draft on one game.

Certainly Bush had a great game, but one has to clearly admit that his performance was less than what was expected.
 
It may have been less than what was expected, but I blame Pete Carroll for that. He had him on the side lines way too much considering that he was being pretty effective with his limited touches.
 
Does anyone know how many recieving yard Bush got on that last drive when Texas was in major prevent defense? That skewed those numbers a little. Also, as I'm sure has been noted several times. When USC needed a play, they gave the ball to LenDale White. Bush did well against what is the best defense he has seen, but even Texas isn't good enough to be considered an NFL defense. Many of those players will have a chance to maybe play in the NFL, but only a few will be starters.
 
Texans86 said:
Does anyone know how many recieving yard Bush got on that last drive when Texas was in major prevent defense? That skewed those numbers a little. Also, as I'm sure has been noted several times. When USC needed a play, they gave the ball to LenDale White. Bush did well against what is the best defense he has seen, but even Texas isn't good enough to be considered an NFL defense. Many of those players will have a chance to maybe play in the NFL, but only a few will be starters.

Dominic Davis could have done what Bush did. That is why I was slightly dissapointed.
 
tulexan said:
It may have been less than what was expected, but I blame Pete Carroll for that. He had him on the side lines way too much considering that he was being pretty effective with his limited touches.

Carroll seemed still a little agitated at Bush at half time with his comments as he walked off the field. That might have been some of the Sideline stuff trying to get the kid some perspective.
 
Remember not to judge ONE game. Vincy Young haters can easily bring up the A&M game........where he basically lost the Heisman.
 
CITY CAT said:
Dominic Davis could have done what Bush did. That is why I was slightly dissapointed.

I don't think I have seen the speed Bush showed, on say the fumble/pitch play where he was at the 19 in no time, from DD.
 
royce1054 said:
Texas all together has the best football talent in the country. It goes
1. Texas
2. California
3. Florida
4. Ohio
5. Pennsylvania

then after that you can argue it out

just a question how are you coming up with this, are there numbers to back to this up? the only thing i know about the number of players and states they come from is for the nfl.

as for the rose bowl i saw this coming. reggie bush wasn't going to be the main guy and they were going to depend on white and leinart like they did last year. also, if you guys have watched some sc games this has happened before. in the cal game the bears defense put two or three guys on him every play and i think he had like 80 yards rushing while lendale had a big game with 3 touchdowns. if you don't want to draft bush becuase of this game then you probably didn't want to draft andre after the 02 fiesta bowl because he only had 4 catches against an nfl corner in gamble. if you don't think texas was gameplaning for when reggie was on field just look at dwayne who was running free in the secondary. this thread doesn't even matter because if anyone watched cold pizza this morning (don't know why i was) they had someone on who had talked to casserly this morning and that the texans including dan reeves says david was poorly coached and thought he was the right guy and though we can't talk about underclassmen you connect the dots. also, 13 carries and 90 yards isn't bad against an nfl style defense, don't blame reggie blame kiffen for the bad game plan. white had some good runs (noteably the straight arm to huff) but a lot of his runs where right up the middle through a big hole where he was tackled by the first ut guy that had a good shot at him, you're telling me reggie couldn't have done that. i don't know how anyone can question bush's speed after watching the td run, he got to corner and i thought he was done but he turned it on and scored. why he didn't get the ball after that play is beyond me, he is finally in his groove and you put him on the sideline, that is why usc lost the game.
 
I saw that too on Cold Pizza. I have to say, I never really liked the show, but it is growing on me. But on to the Texans. That guy Bob Glauber was pretty funny. His quote was great "They are happy with David Carr and won't be drafting a QB, they will be drafting a playmaking running back, you can connect the dots on who he is talking about". And then Dana Jacobsen at the end of the segment said something like "So, looks like the Texans will take Reggie Bush" and then he chimed in by saying "I never said that" to which she replied "I guess we can connect the dots". He was so adament about making sure not to say Reggie's name. I can even see Charley telling him to make sure he says playmaking running back so that they know who he's talking about.
 
tulexan said:
I saw that too on Cold Pizza. I have to say, I never really liked the show, but it is growing on me. But on to the Texans. That guy Bob Glauber was pretty funny. His quote was great "They are happy with David Carr and won't be drafting a QB, they will be drafting a playmaking running back, you can connect the dots on who he is talking about". And then Dana Jacobsen at the end of the segment said something like "So, looks like the Texans will take Reggie Bush" and then he chimed in by saying "I never said that" to which she replied "I guess we can connect the dots". He was so adament about making sure not to say Reggie's name. I can even see Charley telling him to make sure he says playmaking running back so that they know who he's talking about.

then i could see him saying "but i can't talk about him because he is an underclassman."
 
houstonhurricane said:
Seriously,

It is fine to disagree on how to use the number one pick, but are you saying that our pick should be based on one single college game? How many games of Brick's have you watched and graded? NFL scouts will evaluate Bush and others during individual workouts and combines, etc. and watch film throughout a season(s) - not on a single game. Kid has incredible burst, great hands and picked up some great blocks during UT blitzes. I don't mean to lecture, but it sounds like a somewhat uninformed argument that you are attempting to make...



Vince has played well for 19 straight games. This wasn't just one night in the making. Everyone was saying Bush because no one thought a home town boy was coming out , now that this looks like a possibility it should be explored. I'm a bit biased I would like to see more players from our state stay here instead of making out of state teams better. The marketing aspects of a Vince Young are incredible, as was the addition of the Rocket to the stros. This is a win for the texans....

Later.....................

Pscooter21...............
 
Zephyr said:
Not many on this board will want to trade the pick now. They will want to pick Vince with the number one pick!

yep, that's why none of these guys are NFL scouts. gotta love the flavor of the week.
 
LORK 88 said:
lol, Im loving how now all of the sudden it seems Bush is out of favor on this site. I've been saying trade down all along, and Bush proved it to me. He had decent numbers, yes, but all he did on his runs is bounce them outside as fast as he could. Thats not going to work in the NFL with more speed.


i agree with lork here
 
TexansCanes said:
just a question how are you coming up with this, are there numbers to back to this up? the only thing i know about the number of players and states they come from is for the nfl.

as for the rose bowl i saw this coming. reggie bush wasn't going to be the main guy and they were going to depend on white and leinart like they did last year. also, if you guys have watched some sc games this has happened before. in the cal game the bears defense put two or three guys on him every play and i think he had like 80 yards rushing while lendale had a big game with 3 touchdowns. if you don't want to draft bush becuase of this game then you probably didn't want to draft andre after the 02 fiesta bowl because he only had 4 catches against an nfl corner in gamble. if you don't think texas was gameplaning for when reggie was on field just look at dwayne who was running free in the secondary. this thread doesn't even matter because if anyone watched cold pizza this morning (don't know why i was) they had someone on who had talked to casserly this morning and that the texans including dan reeves says david was poorly coached and thought he was the right guy and though we can't talk about underclassmen you connect the dots. also, 13 carries and 90 yards isn't bad against an nfl style defense, don't blame reggie blame kiffen for the bad game plan. white had some good runs (noteably the straight arm to huff) but a lot of his runs where right up the middle through a big hole where he was tackled by the first ut guy that had a good shot at him, you're telling me reggie couldn't have done that. i don't know how anyone can question bush's speed after watching the td run, he got to corner and i thought he was done but he turned it on and scored. why he didn't get the ball after that play is beyond me, he is finally in his groove and you put him on the sideline, that is why usc lost the game.

Well from what i can see he is a 3rd down back at best. A urlacher, freeney those type players would eat him alive being an every down back. I am not impressed at all when he play a REAL D that is not even as good a D's in the NFL. I am dissapointed in the way he played. I am also dissapointed in the way he was used because he had 1 good run. I want to see him run up the middle before i put my seal of approval on him. O ya and Texans are the best at football. I dont wanna say gods but we arent too far off with our talent we produce in the houston, dallas, FW, Austin, SA areas.
 
Joey I'm not a VY lover but if we are going to re-build this team I would hate to lose him.

I'm for DEFENSE myself. I just don't remember the last time a JUNIOR QB was successful in the transistion from college to qb. That Senior year seems to be really more important than folks think.

I'm also not sure that I like any of the O-line not even D-brick to consider in a top 5-10 pick.

I say trade back and pick up AJ HAWK!
 
Untamed Guerillaz said:
well i said it once already VY is the man and reggie will be ok in the nfl and that it people........wake up before its to late
Is there any logic behind this statement?
 
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