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All you Reggie lovers better run and hide

LCROD said:
272 all purpose yards 1 TD seriously sucks.

From CBS, Reggie Bush Stats:

82 rush 1 TD
89 rec
101 kickoff

To each his own.

So based on that (yardage) we should use the number one pick on a punter because he'll get more yardage than anyone else?
Hell, Vince Young had like 450+ combined yards, take him!!...
 
Why would the Reggie supporters run and hide? Bush had 270 yards of total offense and a touchdown. In the world I live in thats pretty good. Whats your address?
 
TexanBacker93 said:
6.3 yards per carry is very good. Not the 9 that he averaged during the season, but the only thing that "held" Bush under 100 yards was the fact that he only ran it 13 times.


haha now that's funny..only 13 times?? maybe you should see how many times he averaged carrying the ball this year...actually don't..i'll tell you...it's 13....reggie can not carry the load in the NFL...he will have to be a flukie "line him up anywhere" kinda guy...the only thing is, he won't be faster than NFL corners...he won't even be much faster than some LB's in the NFL

take brick!!!!!!:challenge
 
Nighthawk said:
From the look of it, Vince Young is the Michael Jordan of football, or as close to it as I've seen. And what's MOST interesting, given his size, accuracy, escapability, quickness, speed on the ball, etc etc) it WILL TRANSLATE directly into the NFL.

He might be the Michael Jordon of COLLEGE football. But the NFL is a different ball game. QB's have a way of getting hurt in the NFL if they try to run like he does.
 
Spoda said:
TexanBacker93 said:
6.3 yards per carry is very good. Not the 9 that he averaged during the season, but the only thing that "held" Bush under 100 yards was the fact that he only ran it 13 times.


haha now that's funny..only 13 times?? maybe you should see how many times he averaged carrying the ball this year...actually don't..i'll tell you...it's 13....reggie can not carry the load in the NFL...he will have to be a flukie "line him up anywhere" kinda guy...the only thing is, he won't be faster than NFL corners...he won't even be much faster than some LB's in the NFL

take brick!!!!!!:challenge
DD cant carry the load either. That why he misses 8 games a year.
 
Youngstown Colt said:
Calm down people, it's just one game!

Yeah but it was a big game and UT's defense was a lot closer to what Bush will see in the NFL. If this one player can't make a difference on an absolutely great team, imagine what would happen on our sucky overmatched team.

I still don't see how drafting Bush helps our pass blocking problem. Until we fix that problem, we're going nowhere. You cannot get an outstanding LT in the later rounds and you're not going to get one in free agency either because NFL teams will hang on to them (because they are so hard to find, as we have demonstrated over the past 4 years).
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Yeah but it was a big game and UT's defense was a lot closer to what Bush will see in the NFL. If this one player can't make a difference on an absolutely great team, imagine what would happen on our sucky overmatched team.


This is a great point ... but how would USC's defense relate to what Young will see in the NFL?
 
TEXANRED said:
Spoda said:
DD cant carry the load either. That why he misses 8 games a year.


that's why we spent a third on morency ..took hollings in the second (supp) and should retain wells

get the picks and take brick!!!! for the love of god..he's Orlando Pace....have you watched virginia play?? after the snap with little effort he keeps his man at the LOS while everyone else is pushed back...
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Yeah but it was a big game and UT's defense was a lot closer to what Bush will see in the NFL. If this one player can't make a difference on an absolutely great team, imagine what would happen on our sucky overmatched team.

I still don't see how drafting Bush helps our pass blocking problem. Until we fix that problem, we're going nowhere. You cannot get an outstanding LT in the later rounds and you're not going to get one in free agency either because NFL teams will hang on to them (because they are so hard to find, as we have demonstrated over the past 4 years).

But the same hype that determined Reggie is the best all-around, is the same machine that is saying D'Brick is the shizz.
 
Spoda said:
TEXANRED said:
get the picks and take brick!!!! for the love of god..he's Orlando Pace....have you watched virginia play?? after the snap with little effort he keeps his man at the LOS while everyone else is pushed back...


Excellent! Reggie Bush is Gale Sayers and D'Brickashaw Ferguson is Orlando Pace. This smacks of the NBA always looking for the next Michael Jordan. I think these guys can all stand on their own - they certainly aren't carbon copies of anyone. Furthermore, Ferguson is NOT Pace if you look at their college careers. Pace had Heisman consideration while playing the line.

However, both will be good pros for the Texans or someone else.
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Yeah but it was a big game and UT's defense was a lot closer to what Bush will see in the NFL. If this one player can't make a difference on an absolutely great team, imagine what would happen on our sucky overmatched team.

I still don't see how drafting Bush helps our pass blocking problem. Until we fix that problem, we're going nowhere. You cannot get an outstanding LT in the later rounds and you're not going to get one in free agency either because NFL teams will hang on to them (because they are so hard to find, as we have demonstrated over the past 4 years).
I know this has been said a few times but he touched the ball 13 times and produced 279 yards and a touchdown. Thats amazing. The Texans as a team go games with less than that. As a whole team.

Then someone posted his average a game is only 13 touches. Wasent he still averaging over 300 yards a game? Thats amazing.

Its not like Dbrick was able to get his team to the national title game.
 
Vince Young was awesome and that was incredible but Bush is the best bet for the Texans. I saw things that impressed me. He ran hard and hit people to finish plays. When he did get in the open field his speed beat anything the Texans have. The bonehead pitch, notwithstanding, he made some awesome moves on that screen pass. They just didn't get him the ball. AND he did get most of the attention and it left Leinart with all kinds of time. LenDale was part of that too.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Vince Young was awesome and that was incredible but Bush is the best bet for the Texans. I saw things that impressed me. He ran hard and hit people to finish plays. When he did get in the open field his speed beat anything the Texans have. The bonehead pitch, notwithstanding, he made some awesome moves on that screen pass. They just didn't get him the ball. AND he did get most of the attention and it left Leinart with all kinds of time. LenDale was part of that too.

hit people?? who?? oh you mean that one play he stiff armed a corner? which linebacker did he hit hard?? which time did he grind it up the middle?? i saw huge holes and one spectacular play...he will not help this team....i keep hearing how reggie blocked well...he is a midget compared to the LB's he will have to block in the NFL..he will be blown up....

let's draft a starter that will play on key downs...anyone else notice he was not in the game on ANY critical downs?? would gayle sayer or barry sanders who he has been compared to be on the sideline with the game on the line? i think not.....OVER_RATED!!!..clap clap,clap clap clap...if we want a third down scat back or dante hall..let's draft reggie..if not let's get a legit impact every down player...IMO
 
TEXANRED said:
I know this has been said a few times but he touched the ball 13 times and produced 279 yards and a touchdown. Thats amazing. The Texans as a team go games with less than that. As a whole team.

Then someone posted his average a game is only 13 touches. Wasent he still averaging over 300 yards a game? Thats amazing.

Its not like Dbrick was able to get his team to the national title game.


I think he actually had 19 touches. But it was still an impressive game.
 
aj. said:
Don't worry, Uncle Charley will show us the way.
Sarcasm aside, that isn't funny. Uncle Charley gives me nightmares.

I knew when I logged on today that this board would be all about Young. Yesterday it was all about Bush. You folks are so funny, it is just like high school...who is 'in' and who is 'out'. Young owned that field last night, yet he may not be the 'answer' y'all are wishing for. Neither may Bush.

How about this. We let the season end, have the combine, do some scouting, etc and see where our worst weaknesses lie and find the BPA to fill a major weakness? If the BPA does not fill a need, trade him and cover more weaknesses. It is a long shot, but it may just work! :ok:
 
other than the touchdown run..(which i don't think would be in the NFL)..there was not anything impressive about bush...people are looking for hype....he was very averageyou put deangelo williams in every spot bush was in last night, how much different would it have been?? you want williams? i don't...i just can not get that fans want this tiny tiny scat back....he will split carries...and while i can't speculate on injuries...just look at him...you think dominick has injuries?? bush is smaller

take brick!!
 
Spoda said:
hit people?? who?? oh you mean that one play he stiff armed a corner? which linebacker did he hit hard?? which time did he grind it up the middle?? i saw huge holes and one spectacular play...he will not help this team....i keep hearing how reggie blocked well...he is a midget compared to the LB's he will have to block in the NFL..he will be blown up....

let's draft a starter that will play on key downs...anyone else notice he was not in the game on ANY critical downs?? would gayle sayer or barry sanders who he has been compared to be on the sideline with the game on the line? i think not.....OVER_RATED!!!..clap clap,clap clap clap...if we want a third down scat back or dante hall..let's draft reggie..if not let's get a legit impact every down player...IMO

What game did you watch?He didn't shy away from anyone in the open field. t wasn't like he touched it a million times. Also, when did the texas D touch Leinart?I watched Bush the whole time and he knocked people on their tail when they blitzed. Twice I saw him knock LBs into the ground. You are just peeved because of the hype. Pull your head out. I'm sure you are one of the people who wants to trade it for an O-lineman, something most top teams have filled with later rounds and free agency, and expect Charlie to work miracles?Unreal some of the thoughts in here after one game. No wonder the fans are so fair weathered. I don't think the national sports people who saw this guy play every game think he is a joke when they have seen him play in limited time.(rolling eyes). When they guy busts a 60 yard screen pass next year you will be talking about how awesome he is, I'm sure of it.
 
I may be crazy, but I think since the Texans are basically in a "new beginning" mode, Carr hasn't produced; if we could start with Vince Young, I believe we could build a team in 3 years that would be playoff contenders. A great QB is simply the leader of a team. If Carr does well in the future, I'll regret this post. But .... decisions decision:brickwall
 
FILO_girl said:
Sarcasm aside, that isn't funny. Uncle Charley gives me nightmares.

I knew when I logged on today that this board would be all about Young. Yesterday it was all about Bush. You folks are so funny, it is just like high school...who is 'in' and who is 'out'. Young owned that field last night, yet he may not be the 'answer' y'all are wishing for. Neither may Bush.

How about this. We let the season end, have the combine, do some scouting, etc and see where our worst weaknesses lie and find the BPA to fill a major weakness? If the BPA does not fill a need, trade him and cover more weaknesses. It is a long shot, but it may just work! :ok:


Nah, that will never work. We should rave about the most popular player each week and how he has to be on the Texans.
 
HoustonFrog said:
What game did you watch?He didn't shy away from anyone in the open field. t wasn't like he touched it a million times. Also, when did the texas D touch Leinart?I watched Bush the whole time and he knocked people on their tail when they blitzed. Twice I saw him knock LBs into the ground. You are just peeved because of the hype. Pull your head out. I'm sure you are one of the people who wants to trade it for an O-lineman, something most top teams have filled with later rounds and free agency, and expect Charlie to work miracles?Unreal some of the thoughts in here after one game. No wonder the fans are so fair weathered. I don't think the national sports people who saw this guy play every game think he is a joke when they have seen him play in limited time like you(rolling eyes). when they guy busts a 60 yard screen pass next year you will be talking about how awesome he is, I'm sure of it.

if we take reggie i will root for him ...and his 13 carries...i'm not sure which LT's that most teams have filled with later rounds you are talking about..plenty of people on these boards have shown us that the elite LT's are 1st rounders..and i guess i was watching a different game cause i saw lendell white smashing up the middle, not reggie...i saw reggie go through huuuge holes and dance to the sideline...i believe on his first run he challenged someone...i just don't see taking a guy who can't carry the load in college..won't be able to separate as a receiver in the NFL as shown when he was smothered last night...and isn't a goal line back (white 3 TDS)...he avarages 13 carries per game people..13!! oh but he returns kicks??? don't we have a pro bowler that does that? haven't we already spent enough on HBs? we have 4 that we drafted round 4 or higher....running game is not the problem...and getting 13 carries from a scat back won't help
 
Spoda said:
if we take reggie i will root for him ...and his 13 carries...i'm not sure which LT's that most teams have filled with later rounds you are talking about..plenty of people on these boards have shown us that the elite LT's are 1st rounders..and i guess i was watching a different game cause i saw lendell white smashing up the middle, not reggie...i saw reggie go through huuuge holes and dance to the sideline...i believe on his first run he challenged someone...i just don't see taking a guy who can't carry the load in college..won't be able to separate as a receiver in the NFL as shown when he was smothered last night...and isn't a goal line back (white 3 TDS)...he avarages 13 carries per game people..13!! oh but he returns kicks??? don't we have a pro bowler that does that? haven't we already spent enough on HBs? we have 4 that we drafted round 4 or higher....running game is not the problem...and getting 13 carries from a scat back won't help


He actually averages 15 carries per game. That average is brought down from two games where he only had 8 carries because they were both blowouts as well.
 
Hulk75 said:
Let me try to put this to rest.


4.The dump were he took it I dont know how far but then pitched it to one of his players(that should have caught it), he was trying to make a play to help his ream win and I dont mind that, I have seen many players do that and if it would have WORKED people would be saying how great he is.

Now Vince Young great college player who is explosive.
But he is not the savior you all think he is. He either throws the ball to a wide open guy or he runs, he looks at 1 guy then runs. He will not be able to do that in the NFL. What makes Michael Vick so good is that he is not a BIG target, so when you compare him to Vick just remeber he is a Bigger target to smack.
In the NFL, ENDS do not loose contain like USC did all game, they lost contain all game long. USC gave him every little pass he wanted not one pass down field were I said to my self "wow". He averaged what 6 yards a pass. USC defense sucked today they could not tackle a cheerleader tonight.
USC D played 10 yards off the ball and Texas had all day underneath.

4) Bush could do nothing wrong on that game...please. That dump off was a moron move if I ever saw one. It wasn't the end of the game, it wasn't the 4th quarter. There was no need in the world for him to throw it back. Kieth Jackson and the other guy both reffered to it as a bonehead play, because that's what it was.

5) I thought Carroll did a piss-poor job defensively against VY. When you play a scrambler like that, you rush three, and just drop back your LBs and your DBs. When you blitz a guy like that, you play right into his hands. Now, granted, NFL DEs won't let that happen like USC did, as much, but that was just a joke.
 
Spoda said:
if we take reggie i will root for him ...and his 13 carries...i'm not sure which LT's that most teams have filled with later rounds you are talking about..plenty of people on these boards have shown us that the elite LT's are 1st rounders..and i guess i was watching a different game cause i saw lendell white smashing up the middle, not reggie...i saw reggie go through huuuge holes and dance to the sideline...i believe on his first run he challenged someone...i just don't see taking a guy who can't carry the load in college..won't be able to separate as a receiver in the NFL as shown when he was smothered last night...and isn't a goal line back (white 3 TDS)...he avarages 13 carries per game people..13!! oh but he returns kicks??? don't we have a pro bowler that does that? haven't we already spent enough on HBs? we have 4 that we drafted round 4 or higher....running game is not the problem...and getting 13 carries from a scat back won't help

OH REALLY!!!The New England Patriots dynasty has one second rounder and the rest are below the 2nd, free agents and waiver wire guys. The Denver Broncos has ONE 1st rounder with the 20th pick, a free agent, two 4ths and a 7th..ahem. The Redskins have one 1st rounder, a second, two 3rds and an 8th. Two of them Free Agents, includign a 20 year guy. There is zero reasons for getting a first round lineman with this high a pick if you have people who can find these guys. Also, besiders the 13 carries, which is actually 15, he also catches the ball out of the backfield, returns kicks, etc. The catches aren't in that stat. Also the most carries per average this year in the pros was 21. Did you even see him play this year?Which of those 4 wasted picks of ours is a game breaker. Almost every SB history team in our life has had a franchise back or QB. We have neither. This was shown in another post!!
 
tulexan said:
If Reggie averaged his "horrible game" next year he would have around 4350 all purpose yards for the season.

Can we all please agree that the "all purpose yards" is a worthless stat. You get an easy 20 on each kickoff. Not to mention that Texas kicked off about 7 times...

Go with Passing and Receiving only please.
 
HoustonFrog said:
OH REALLY!!!The New England Patriots dynasty has one second rounder and the rest are below the 2nd, free agents and waiver wire guys. The Denver Broncos has ONE 1st rounder with the 20th pick, a free agent, two 4ths and a 7th..ahem. The Redskins have one 1st rounder, a second, two 3rds and an 8th. Two of them Free Agents, includign a 20 year guy. There is zero reasons for getting a first round lineman with this high a pick if you have people who can find these guys.

nobody in there right mind is talking about taking a guard or center..we are talking about a book end LT for 10 plus years....if you make me find the posts i will but the overwhelming majority of LTs are high picks...if you reaaaally think bush will be able to hop around the middle of the field that's your opinion..i am of the opinion that a LB that runs a 4.5 will snap his spine mid juke...he will fumble and then by this time next year we will be looking for a lineman and saying why won't we draft any lineman?? everyone knows our line is bad... i say take the king's ransome for reggie ..help the team not add a 3rd down screen back who might return kicks if we don't let our pro bowler do it
 
Spoda said:
HoustonFrog said:
OH REALLY!!!The New England Patriots dynasty has one second rounder and the rest are below the 2nd, free agents and waiver wire guys. The Denver Broncos has ONE 1st rounder with the 20th pick, a free agent, two 4ths and a 7th..ahem. The Redskins have one 1st rounder, a second, two 3rds and an 8th. Two of them Free Agents, includign a 20 year guy. There is zero reasons for getting a first round lineman with this high a pick if you have people who can find these guys.

nobody in there right mind is talking about taking a guard or center..we are talking about a book end LT for 10 plus years....if you make me find the posts i will but the overwhelming majority of LTs are high picks...if you reaaaally think bush will be able to hop around the middle of the field that's your opinion..i am of the opinion that a LB that runs a 4.5 will snap his spine mid juke...he will fumble and then by this time next year we will be looking for a lineman and saying why won't we draft any lineman?? everyone knows our line is bad... i say take the king's ransome for reggie ..help the team not add a 3rd down screen back who might return kicks if we don't let our pro bowler do it

How are you guaranteed 10 years from a LT?None of thse guys are guaranteed. Most lineman in the playoffs right now are not 1st rounders. Only a selct few are!Herea re the LTs taken int he draft over the years. Nanme the guys who have helped the teasm to the playoffs that were taken 1st round compared to anyone else. There are a select few

http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/t.html
 
Señor Stan said:
Can we all please agree that the "all purpose yards" is a worthless stat. You get an easy 20 on each kickoff. Not to mention that Texas kicked off about 7 times...

Go with Passing and Receiving only please.


He had 3 returns for 110 yards, not 7 for 110. They are just as important as Vince Young throwing a ball 30 yards. Just ask Jerome Mathis.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Spoda said:
How are you guaranteed 10 years from a LT?None of thse guys are guaranteed. Most lineman in the playoffs right now are not 1st rounders. Only a selct few are!Herea re the LTs taken int he draft over the years. Nanme the guys who have helped the teasm to the playoffs that were taken 1st round compared to anyone else. There are a select few

http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/t.html

have you even seen that link you sent?? take a look at the first rounders..all starters...everyone one would be a huuuuge upgrade for us.....do you know how many plays reggie was in on the 4th quarter?? don't look it up i'll tell you....3 plays...that's our first rounder?
 
Spoda said:
HoustonFrog said:
have you even seen that link you sent?? take a look at the first rounders..all starters...everyone one would be a huuuuge upgrade for us.....do you know how many plays reggie was in on the 4th quarter?? don't look it up i'll tell you....3 plays...that's our first rounder?

Yes I sent it after looking at it. They start and almost all the teams aren't in the playoffs. My point..there is just as big a risk as taking a tackle and geting nowhere as there is a skill guy that everyone is hyping. Robery Gallery didn't single handedly win games for a horrible Raider team. You completely ignore the great running teams and who plays for them that I posted above. How did the Patriots do it?..lol
 
HoustonFrog said:
Spoda said:
Yes I sent it after looking at it. They start and almost all the teams aren't in the playoffs. My point..there is just as big a risk as taking a tackle and geting nowhere as there is a skill guy that everyone is hyping. Robery Gallery didn't single handedly win games for a horrible Raider team. You completely ignore the great running teams and who plays for them that I posted above. How did the Patriots do it?..lol

our running game is good we have no pass protection..are you blind?? what is our glaring weakness?? you know it..i know it..hell espn made fun of us in a commercial last year..remember that? it's our line!!!! why replace dominick and morency for reggie?? it makes no sense when you can get 2 starters for him...if we draft reggie we bury morency and have 2 half starters at tailback...instead we could get either ngata, brick , hawk either williams and another 1st round starter next year and possibly another pick...drafting reggie does not give us another starter it replaces one who is doing fine...reggie bush played 3 plays in the 4th quarter of the biggest game of his life??? what does that say?? #1 pick?
 
The TRUTH of the matter is by APRIL this game will just be ONE more in game footage that scouts analyze.

Its exciting now b/c of the aftermath but that will all die out.
 
Spoda said:
HoustonFrog said:
our running game is good we have no pass protection..are you blind?? what is our glaring weakness?? you know it..i know it..hell espn made fun of us in a commercial last year..remember that? it's our line!!!! why replace dominick and morency for reggie?? it makes no sense when you can get 2 starters for him...if we draft reggie we bury morency and have 2 half starters at tailback...instead we could get either ngata, brick , hawk either williams and another 1st round starter next year and possibly another pick...drafting reggie does not give us another starter it replaces one who is doing fine...reggie bush played 3 plays in the 4th quarter of the biggest game of his life??? what does that say?? #1 pick?

No, I'm not blind. I am not sure you are reading my posts. YOU CAN fix the line through free agency and later rounds and still have the skill guy. DD is not a game breaker and is hurt. When has he ever won a game for the Texans by breaking one off?NEVER. Wells?NEVER. Morency is played in a few games. You just names off 3 top 5 guys with the picks we would get. We will get one pick, theirs, another years 1st and maybe some later round ones. Casserly has shown no problem with wasting those. We still have 4 of the top 66 even with a Bush. One game does not make a player.
 
R u serious....do u watch football at all? Reggie Bush was everywhere last night....we all know he's not a power runner like White is but how often did u see Bush line up at receiver? Please think before u post.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Spoda said:
No, I'm not blind. I am not sure you are reading my posts. YOU CAN fix the line through free agency and later rounds and still have the skill guy. DD is not a game breaker and is hurt. When has he ever won a game for the Texans by breaking one off?NEVER. Wells?NEVER. Morency is played in a few games. You just names off 3 top 5 guys with the picks we would get. We will get one pick, theirs and maybe some later round ones. Casserly has shown no problem with wasting those. We still have 4 of the top 66 even with a Bush. One game does not make a player.
Good point.....and I have a question. If we do trade down for two picks or whatever u r proposing. What r u gonna say when one of those picks is a bust/injured or whatever. Why wouldn't u take the clear cut #1 who can; run outside and give DD some rest because DD is not an ALL PRO back, line up WR and open things up for DRE and Mathis, pick up the blitz which i thought he did a pretty decent job of that last night, and also return kicks for u. My last point....think about this....by bringing Bush here the Texans will avg 7-10 points more in '06. And we can will in the holes around through FA and draft. Take a look at INDY a few years back. Great offense no defense till now.
 
TXurias said:
HoustonFrog said:
Good point.....and I have a question. If we do trade down for two picks or whatever u r proposing. What r u gonna say when one of those picks is a bust/injured or whatever. Why wouldn't u take the clear cut #1 who can; run outside and give DD some rest because DD is not an ALL PRO back, line up WR and open things up for DRE and Mathis, pick up the blitz which i thought he did a pretty decent job of that last night, and also return kicks for u. My last point....think about this....by bringing Bush here the Texans will avg 7-10 points more in '06. And we can will in the holes around through FA and draft. Take a look at INDY a few years back. Great offense no defense till now.


look, we all know nobody is a guarantee...and everyone can get hurt...and casserly can blow some picks...and IMO bush will be a huge bust or he will be dante hall...even if he is productive as what?? you think he can play wide out?? get real.. 7-10 points? where do you get that? i just find it amazing that because he can skip around like a waterbug against fresno st. that everyone thinks that his tiny little frame and those moves will translate to the NFL...the fact is we drafted a backup last year in the first round and if we take bush we will be drafting another backup...i'll say it again...in the biggest game of his life on the biggest stage...the mighty unnbelievable godsend reggie bush with all his glory was in on 3 plays in the 4th quarter last night.....he is an amazing talent...but he is simply not needed..neither is VY...and i believe whoever takes bush will regret it...the guy is tiny ..he won't be the fastest player on the field..he is not worth what we will get in return
 
Marcus said:
Can you say overhyped?

I got to see this 'future Gale Sayers' get chased down by a linebacker on the outside, stuffed on the inside, and outperformed by a better pro prospect, Lendale White. I wanted to see how he would do against some decent competition, so I could have some idea how he would do in the NFL.

I was so impressed. :rolleyes:

Trade the pick and let's get some decent players.
You have to reallize that Reggie had a better season than Lendale White and you cant judge him by just one game.He was not put in on thos clutch situations and I believe that if Trjans would have put in Bush in that 4th down play they would have gotten the 1st down.
 
tulexan said:
This is pretty much what I expected to happen. Reggie had an average game to his standards and everyone is calling him a bust. Everyone was expecting him to put up another 500 all purpose yards and he didn't.

He is still the best player in college football and will still be the #1 pick. We have a quarterback and we don't need to draft Vince Young so he can sit on the bench for two years while he is collecting his $50 Million dollar contract.

Someone else said this and it is true. All week we have been hearing about how we should trade down and fill all of the holes on our team. We have been hearing how we don't need a running back because we already have one that is good. We just need a line. Now Vince Young has a great game and we should draft him. What about all of the holes on our team? What about the line? Don't we already have a quarterback?

Try to have some consistency in your arguments. If you thought that we have holes on our team and that we should trade down, then you should still think that we have holes on our team and we should trade down. If you think that we already have a good running back, just that he doesn't have a line, then you should think that the situation is the same with our quarter back.

Charley Casserly or Bob McNair could care less about the University of Texas. They are not going to pick a guy just because he is good and from the area.

Blasphemy!!! Dont you realize that UT has all the best players.:rolleyes:
 
Marcus said:
Can you say overhyped?

I got to see this 'future Gale Sayers' get chased down by a linebacker on the outside, stuffed on the inside, and outperformed by a better pro prospect, Lendale White. I wanted to see how he would do against some decent competition, so I could have some idea how he would do in the NFL.

I was so impressed. :rolleyes:

Trade the pick and let's get some decent players.

where do i sign
 
cuppacoffee said:
Blasphemy!!! Dont you realize that UT has all the best players.:rolleyes:


Texas all together has the best football talent in the country. It goes
1. Texas
2. California
3. Florida
4. Ohio
5. Pennsylvania

then after that you can argue it out
 
LCROD said:
272 all purpose yards 1 TD seriously sucks.

From CBS, Reggie Bush Stats:

82 rush 1 TD
89 rec
101 kickoff

To each his own.


TSippers minds are made up! :yap

Please don't confuse them with any facts.:shrug:

:coffee:
 
royce1054 said:
Texas all together has the best football talent in the country. It goes
1. Texas
2. California
3. Florida
4. Ohio
5. Pennsylvania

then after that you can argue it out

I think that is a debatable argument. I would have to say that Florida has the best talent. How many national championships have come out of the state of Florida compared to Texas?
 
tulexan said:
I think that is a debatable argument. I would have to say that Florida has the best talent. How many national championships have come out of the state of Florida compared to Texas?

Most of the Florida players stay in Florida. The same is not true of Texas players. Count all of the OU titles because basically 2/3's of their teams are Texans. In fact, many of the Big 12 teams (Nebraska, Colorado, etc.) recruit talent from Texas. It is hard to count titles when you have players all over the country.
 
Spoda said:
other than the touchdown run..(which i don't think would be in the NFL)..there was not anything impressive about bush...people are looking for hype....he was very averageyou put deangelo williams in every spot bush was in last night, how much different would it have been?? you want williams? i don't...i just can not get that fans want this tiny tiny scat back....he will split carries...and while i can't speculate on injuries...just look at him...you think dominick has injuries?? bush is smaller

take brick!!

This is the part where I need varification(I am at work and am blocked from most of the net) Isnt Bush at least six foot? Isnt DD 5'7? How is bush smaller?
And I must ask, how did you come to the conclusion that Bush would be unable to to block and get "blown up" by NFL linebackers?
 
I've read quite alot of the posts on this board. I must say I'm a Horns fan so i'm wanting us to take a Houston boy who will be one of the best QB's in a while. Reggie is good ,but my heart says take Vince he is better than Carr now. Let him play behind Carr for a couple of years and then bring him on, and let David go back to the west coast like the Raiders, or the Cardinals.

Later....................

Pscooter21.................
 
TEXANRED said:
This is the part where I need varification(I am at work and am blocked from most of the net) Isnt Bush at least six foot? Isnt DD 5'7? How is bush smaller?
And I must ask, how did you come to the conclusion that Bush would be unable to to block and get "blown up" by NFL linebackers?

Davis is listed at least 20 LBS heavier...if you think because reggie is taller that makes him bigger when referring to a HB...my cats scratching post knows more than you..and it is my opinion that this little tiny scat back will not block a blitzing LB...maybe reggie has super human strenght i am not aware of
 
Reggie did a pretty good job picking up the blitz yesterday and actually is very strong. Last time I heard he benches over 400 lbs.
 
Spoda said:
Davis is listed at least 20 LBS heavier...if you think because reggie is taller that makes him bigger when referring to a HB...my cats scratching post knows more than you..and it is my opinion that this little tiny scat back will not block a blitzing LB...maybe reggie has super human strenght i am not aware of
First lets keep this civil. I asked a straight up question with no sarcastic undertones, so there is no need for the scratching post comment.:challenge

Second, how many sacks did ML take yesterday? Was any Reggies fault? Some on this board have compared the longhorn D to that of an NFL, or as close to in college as you can get, to an NFL D and I thought he performed exceptional.

Third, I dont know to many guys who bench 400 lbs, so ya I would have to say super human strength.
 
I think he did a wonderful job for someone who seemed to be used more as a decoy. He wasn't consistenly put into the offense which I feel like a playmaker of his capability has to be kept in the game and got into the flow of the game.

I didn't see them try to get favorable match-ups for him. I was disappointed b/c I wanted to see him and VY just explode last night but to say all of a sudden he sucks is ridiculous.
 
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