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All Pro Tom Nalen to follow Kubiak?
- Thread starter donbmt
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Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
donbmt said:
Yes, please.
Sign him to a two year deal, and help groom Drew...maybe.
justtxyank
Noob
texan279 said:
Nope. That's exactly what it said.
If we are going to overpay out the nose for a lineman let it be someone like Hutchinson or Bentley.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
From the article:
Jack Bauer
Rookie
WWJD said:
They looked a LOT better than Indy did against the same defense.
He didnt say last resort.. he basicly said that if a good deal isnt finalized with Denver, that going to Houston with Kubiak would be his next course of action.
Basicly.. im thinking that if we lay an offer on the table for him.. Denver will have to match it or beat it to keep him there.
Basicly.. im thinking that if we lay an offer on the table for him.. Denver will have to match it or beat it to keep him there.
Born on December 14, 1979, Shanahan is 8 months younger than Derik Armstrong and 1 year older than Gaffney. Here's an article about Kyle.
Texans Horror
All Pro
Grid said:
I am hearing echoes of last year, when we were supposed to get Orlando Pace, but in the end, it was one big ploy to get him more cash out of St. Louis.
justtxyank
Noob
WWJD said:
Well it isn't HIS son. And supposedly Kyle is a pretty sharp guy and will make a good coach.
bdiddy
Waterboy
I think signing Nalen to a 2 year deal with an club option for a third year would be good. He is a great center and fits the zone blocking scheme well. We could then draft a center in the later rounds and allow Hogdon to develop. However, I still believe the Hogdon will play guard in the new scheme.
There left tackle is also a FA with a player option. He is from Frisco, TX. Maybe he will be interested, too.
There left tackle is also a FA with a player option. He is from Frisco, TX. Maybe he will be interested, too.
ledzeppelin229
Hall of Fame
I doubt Nalen comes here. He's seen the fat contracts to Wiegert and Wade and is trying to use the Kubiak-to-Houston scenario/Being from TX angle to take a ransom from the Broncos (although I'm not completely ruling out that he might like to come to Houston in the right scenario, like I said he's seen the fat contracts above. Just that I see it as more like an 80% chance he stays in Denver and 20% chance he actually comes to Houston.)
Glacier
Waterboy
ledzeppelin269 said:
I think a quality center like Nalen, who is always going to make the right blocking calls, instantly makes Carr look better than he is along with making DD look like a fantastic runner, rather than a productive runner in the new blocking scheme. We can hope!
TexansBlitz
Practice Squad
NFL Rumor Central reported the possibility of Tom Nalen coming to the Texans. Apparently, Nalen has been forced to take pay cuts in the past to stay with the Broncos...but is an unrestricted free agent after this year.
The rumor has it that he would be the starting point of Kubiak's redesign of the o-line. Which makes perfect sense, considering center is the most important position on the line in the Zone B scheme.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors
The rumor has it that he would be the starting point of Kubiak's redesign of the o-line. Which makes perfect sense, considering center is the most important position on the line in the Zone B scheme.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors
rittenhouserobz
Veteran
I would love to see a couple of the OL that have experienced the zone blocking scheme at its best. I think our current OL is getting better at run blocking, but adding experience would be great.
Nalen will be 35 years old in May but he hasn't missed a game in three years. He would bring that Denver OL experience to the middle of the line and give D Hog someone to learn from (move McKinney to LG if he's willing to take a pay cut). He's an old dog but it may be a perfect one-year deal for Nalen and for the Texans. He hasn't been All-Pro since '03, I believe. He may not cost all that much. Lepsis may also be available (family in Houston area?).
Looks like someone you'd like dating your daughter ...
Looks like someone you'd like dating your daughter ...
From the Kffl clearing house:
Broncos | Team needs to clear nearly $30 million for 2006 salary cap
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:59:35 -0800
The Associated Press reports the Denver Broncos need to pare close to $30 million off the 2006 season salary cap. The situation could mean several players will not be with the team next year. C Tom Nalen, OT Matt Lepsis, DL Gerard Warren, and DL Courtney Brown are all possible victims.
Broncos | Team needs to clear nearly $30 million for 2006 salary cap
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:59:35 -0800
The Associated Press reports the Denver Broncos need to pare close to $30 million off the 2006 season salary cap. The situation could mean several players will not be with the team next year. C Tom Nalen, OT Matt Lepsis, DL Gerard Warren, and DL Courtney Brown are all possible victims.
texan279
Hall of Fame
More on the Nalen situation...LINK
Nalen made it clear retirement is not an option. And he backed off a stance he had taken during the summer about not wanting to play anywhere else, should it come to that. If the Broncos decide they will turn the page,
he'll seek work elsewhere.
"I don't want it to end like this," he said after the Pittsburgh Steelers' convincing 34-17 victory. "(But) I'm old, so I don't know what kind of market's out there for me."
One reason for his change of heart is his health. He noted he has taken care of himself better this season and had a lot more fun, outside of Sunday's result.
"I feel great," he said. "I didn't spend one day in the training room."
Broncos left tackle Matt Lepsis also could go into the free-agent market, though he has a player option to pick up the rest of his deal, which would pay him $10 million in various bonuses during the next two years.
Nalen said money will be part of his decision but not the only one. But it boils down to whether the Broncos want him back as well.
Nalen made it clear retirement is not an option. And he backed off a stance he had taken during the summer about not wanting to play anywhere else, should it come to that. If the Broncos decide they will turn the page,
he'll seek work elsewhere.
"I don't want it to end like this," he said after the Pittsburgh Steelers' convincing 34-17 victory. "(But) I'm old, so I don't know what kind of market's out there for me."
One reason for his change of heart is his health. He noted he has taken care of himself better this season and had a lot more fun, outside of Sunday's result.
"I feel great," he said. "I didn't spend one day in the training room."
Broncos left tackle Matt Lepsis also could go into the free-agent market, though he has a player option to pick up the rest of his deal, which would pay him $10 million in various bonuses during the next two years.
Nalen said money will be part of his decision but not the only one. But it boils down to whether the Broncos want him back as well.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
bdiddy said:
I would take Nalen and Smith in a heart beat.
Johnny Utah
Rookie
aj. said:Looks like someone you'd like dating your daughter ...
Looks like he just got done with a 3 day coke bender.
cadahnic
Rookie
Nalen, Bentley, Brandon, and possibly Courntey Brown if he can stay on the field would be some nice additions. Also if the Broncos want to get rid of one of those fast LBs we would gladly take one. I guess we will have a couple of people in Colorado watching some Texan games now at least.
justtxyank
Noob
I'd love to cut Mckinney and his crazy contract and sign Nalen or Bentley with that money. McKinney just isn't good enough to warrant his money any more.
H
Headlights of a Carr
Guest
I wouldn't be surprised to see any Bronco in Texan gear next year. Usually the case when a coach goes to another team. Parcells,Glanville, etc. I would love to get Nalen and Smith. 
Coming from a Bronco fan I can see you get a few of the Bronc's to follow Kubes to Houston. However I dont see you guys getting Rod Smith, we in Colorado want him to retire when it is time as a bronco. With the salery cap I can see Nalen and possibly Lepsis leaving and going to houston which would deplete our offensive line but upgrade yours tremendously. But you never know in denver their talking about getting T.O. now. I know I wish Kubiak all the best he is one hell of a coach and I hope the texans do well with him just not when you guys face the broncos. GO BRONCOS and TEXANS!!!
michaelm
vox nihili
Maybe Kubiak won't want to make too strong a run at Nalen out of respect for Shannahan and the organization. Kubes might not want to be the one who basically drives Nalen's price up for his former team.
Perhaps Kubiak will want to lay back and wait to see if Denver decides not to pay enough.
Perhaps Kubiak will want to lay back and wait to see if Denver decides not to pay enough.
TreWardTxn
Waterboy
That man is Bronco O-line personified; there's not even a snowball's chance that he won't be back in Denver next year.
More importantly, what is this mess about Kyle Shanahan coming to Houston as the Texans wide receiver coach? This dude was hardly 5th string at Texas, who is he going to teach to do anything? What angle is that to get a job; 'uhh, i sat on the bench in college, wait, my dad's an NFL coach, but I never played a down...' There has to be someone better qualified. This whole Simms (he sucked as a Longhorn too)-->UT-->Shanahan-->Broncos connection has to be wiped out. The only personnel pickup that worked at all was Greg Robinson coordinating the defenses...
More importantly, what is this mess about Kyle Shanahan coming to Houston as the Texans wide receiver coach? This dude was hardly 5th string at Texas, who is he going to teach to do anything? What angle is that to get a job; 'uhh, i sat on the bench in college, wait, my dad's an NFL coach, but I never played a down...' There has to be someone better qualified. This whole Simms (he sucked as a Longhorn too)-->UT-->Shanahan-->Broncos connection has to be wiped out. The only personnel pickup that worked at all was Greg Robinson coordinating the defenses...
AustinJB
Rookie
TreWardTxn said:
So?? There are head coaches that have never even played football at all, and most of the coaches that did play football were not All-Pro players. You don't have to necessarily be a great player to be a great coach. You just have to have a thorough knowledge of the game. Most of these type of coaches had the mental ability to understand the schemes, etc. but not the physical abiltiy.
I'm not necessarily saying that I think Kyle will be a great coach, but you have to look at his resume and research his knowledge of the game to try to decide that for yourself....certainly not whether or not he, himself was a great player.
TreWardTxn
Waterboy
AustinJB said:
You're right, at first glance I was thinking, that he would only get a sniff of the job because his dad was the new head coach's mentor. But then I thought about it more. This guy likely grew up around Rod Smith and Eazy Ed, and Shannon Sharpe he has seen the Broncos practice for the past 11 years (if he cared to) and should have a pretty good understanding of what the receivers should do. Even if the guy can't do it himself, he should have a good idea of what needs to be done; so actually, maybe he is the best fit...
justtxyank
Noob
He is supposedly a good coach. Gruden apparently loves the kid in Tampa. Not sure if he will be a good receiver's coach or not, but he's defintley deserving of a shot from all that I've read about him.
