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All Encompassing Vick Thread

swtbound07 said:
you focus an unnatural amount of attention on me. While im flattered, your clearly not my type. What would specnatz do? Probably me, if given the opportunity......
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Yes when you really have nothing to add go with the old gay joke, it worked when you were in 6th grade so it might work now.

Sorry but I do not like dog killer lovers.
 
Well at this point, if i were in the situation he was in, i'd try to mask my pain with drugs & crap too. I'll pray for him, hope he gets it together @ some point..
 
GlassHalfFull said:
New problems for Vick Fanhouse article here

"ESPN's Kelly Naqi is reporting that suspended Falcons quarterback Michael Vick tested positive for marijuana on Sept. 13, meaning he will face stricter release conditions as he awaits sentencing for the federal felony charges he pleaded guilty to."
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One of Vick's co-conspirators tested positive for pot right before the plea and they revoked his bond...

Maybe Vick will go to jail a bit early.
 
BUT IT WASN'T MY URINE!!!!!!!!!

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swtbound07 said:
don't turn this into a discussion of just laws vs. unjust laws...because i would think 90 percent of all rational people would argue that marijuana laws are stupid, unnecessary, and excessive. Legal and right are 2 entirely different animals in america today
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swtbound07 said:
i could tell you of at least 5 people on this board that would go to jail right now if you searched them for pot. And i don't even know that many folks
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True, but how many of those folks....KNOWING that they were going to be tested as part of their bond agreement (getting to stay out of jail for awhile), would risk BLOWING that bond by continuing to smoke pot?

If the judge told me I couldn't eat green M&Ms as part of a Bond agreement, you can be DAM**D sure I wouldn't touch green M&Ms.

He's continuing to make BAD choices and somehow thinks he's not going to get caught. I hope reality smacks him upside the head a little harder and faster next time. He's lucky he didn't get his bond revoked.
 
I came across this quote...........What lessons learned????...........I wonder if the Feds should be looking through his computers for other "interesting communications???????"

The Boys & Girls Club helped make me the man I am today. Because of the lessons I learned there, I'm not only a better athlete, but also a better person.

MICHAEL VICK, Nov. 29, 2005
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hmm i actually attended a Boys & Girls club when i was a child. and i don't remember there being so much attention paid to abusing animals.
 
It must have been the first time he tried the wacky weed...:shades:

Surely if he used it frequently it would have been discovered during one of the "random drug tests" administered by the team... :sarcasm:


:coffee:
 
disaacks3 said:
True, but how many of those folks....KNOWING that they were going to be tested as part of their bond agreement (getting to stay out of jail for awhile), would risk BLOWING that bond by continuing to smoke pot?

If the judge told me I couldn't eat green M&Ms as part of a Bond agreement, you can be DAM**D sure I wouldn't touch green M&Ms.

He's continuing to make BAD choices and somehow thinks he's not going to get caught. I hope reality smacks him upside the head a little harder and faster next time. He's lucky he didn't get his bond revoked.
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Exactly and this is the whole crux of the matter with vick, his continued bad decision making process. One would think that with his upcoming sentencing he'd be out making speeches at schools about how bad dog fighting is and talking about the importance of hanging with the right crowd and keeping out of trouble. He should be doing a lot of public service announcements for the Humane society and working with them. Instead he's smoking pot and once again doing what feels good at the moment instead of taking any thought for consequences of his actions. The guy must have the IQ of a pencil eraser. How can anyone defend Michael Vick any further from here? Did he not just stand before tv cameras a couple weeks ago and tell us how he is going to grow up and start making quality decisions and doing the right things with his life? And here he is right back in the same old rut making bad decisions. The pot isn't the problem here, it's what is going on between MV's two ears and I can tell ya it aint much.
 
infantrycak said:
Man Vick is getting dog-piled now.

Sorry--had to do it.
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And yet there's more;
NFL: FALCONS: Arbitration hearing set Oct. 4 on Vick repayment
Date: September 15, 2007 Publication: Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The (GA) Page Number: D3 Word Count: 221

Flowery Branch -- The first arbitration hearing on the Falcons' pursuit of $22 million in bonus money from suspended quarterback Michael Vick will be held Oct. 4, according to the team. An arbitrator mutually agreed upon by the NFL and the Players Association will hear arguments.

It will be the first of several hearings on how much money, if any, the team can recoup from Vick, to whom it has paid roughly $40 million, some in bonuses, some in base salary.
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Mike just keeps swirling around in the bowl. The Feds and a host of others are reaching for the handle and soon..............whooosh....out the sewer pipe he goes with the rest of the feces.
 
This very arrogant, very ignorant young man never had a clue what hit him.
He had some warning but not much and then the collective wrath of the PETA
crowd and the NFL hit HIM and in this very short period of time they are close to destroying him.
Soon when he's insolvent he'll be back on his own again, with
his mama and maybe a few other family members. Everybody else including the lawyers will be gone because there's no meat to pick from the bones anymore. Just him, some family, and some jail time. Tragic.
 
The Falcons only get cap relief **IF** they get some of the money back from Vick.

From this story, Vick doesn't have the money to pay anyone anything...
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vicksurrenders&prov=ap&type=lgns

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Michael Vick surrendered to U.S. marshals Monday and will remain in jail until his sentencing on a dogfighting charge in three weeks.

The Atlanta Falcons quarterback is scheduled to be sentenced Dec. 10 but turned himself in because he anticipates a prison term on the federal dogfighting conspiracy charge, according to a court document. Vick could be sentenced to up to five years in prison.

"From the beginning, Mr. Vick has accepted responsibility for his actions, and his self-surrender further demonstrates that acceptance," Billy Martin, one of Vick's lawyers, said in a statement. "Michael wants to again apologize to everyone who has been hurt in this matter, and he thanks all of the people who have offered him and his family prayers and support during this time."

Vick is being held at Northern Neck Regional Jail in Warsaw until his sentencing, U.S. marshals told The Associated Press. The mixed-gender facility houses about 450 inmates.

The order filed in U.S. District Court said: "Vick has indicated his desire to voluntarily enter custody prior to his sentencing hearing. It appearing appropriate to do so, the U.S. Marshal is ordered to take custody of the Defendant immediately upon his surrender."
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I'd say animal cruelty for profit from an illegal blood sport is enough of a 'bad' thing to warrant his conviction.

I suppose "ludicrous" is in the eye of the beholder. :hmmm:
 
Double Barrel said:
I'd say animal cruelty for profit from an illegal blood sport is enough of a 'bad' thing to warrant his conviction.

I suppose "ludicrous" is in the eye of the beholder. :hmmm:
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Very much so. I'm not saying what he did is a nice thing. I think there are real bad people roaming the streets who should be addressed first and foremost.
 
PapaL said:
Very much so. I'm not saying what he did is a nice thing. I think there are real bad people roaming the streets who should be addressed first and foremost.
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Based on that train of thought we shouldn't jail anyone until we have jailed the worst first and then work our way down from there? Whether it is a small crime or a large crime, it is still a crime and brings with it a certain level of consequense and that is what is happening.
 
PapaL said:
Very much so. I'm not saying what he did is a nice thing. I think there are real bad people roaming the streets who should be addressed first and foremost.
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You address them as you catch them. Remember the cops didn't go to Vick's house looking into dog charges originally--they went looking for drugs in the possession of his cousin.
 
PapaL said:
Very much so. I'm not saying what he did is a nice thing. I think there are real bad people roaming the streets who should be addressed first and foremost.
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I don't disagree. Personally, I think we need to lock up violent people for life. I find it pathetic that our society is too soft to do what must be done to take incorrigible individuals off the street.

As far as Vick, he won't be in there that long. He did the crime, does the time, so society will give him a second chance (the NFL, on the other hand, is a different story).
 
HOU-TEX said:
I reckon he turned himself in early in hope of leniency. A lesser sentence. :specnatz:
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From what I saw and have read it is so his sentence (if the judge gives the one year like recommended) will end about the time for training camp. 10 months in jail and two months in a half-way house. This of course does not take into account what Roger "the Sledgehammer" Goodde will do.

I hope the judge loves animals and deceides to not take the plea and add some time to his sentence by about 6 months to a year and then Roger gives him two years because of all the gambling involved. I think that would send a very strong message.
 
Specnatz said:
From what I saw and have read it is so his sentence (if the judge gives the one year like recommended) will end about the time for training camp. 10 months in jail and two months in a half-way house. This of course does not take into account what Roger "the Sledgehammer" Goodde will do.

I hope the judge loves animals and deceides to not take the plea and add some time to his sentence by about 6 months to a year and then Roger gives him two years because of all the gambling involved. I think that would send a very strong message.
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I agree. I hope they sentence him to the maximum. If not, I'd hope Goodell lowers the boom. Whatever it is, I just hope he's unable or too old to come back to the NFL.:bat:
 
edo783 said:
Based on that train of thought we shouldn't jail anyone until we have jailed the worst first and then work our way down from there? Whether it is a small crime or a large crime, it is still a crime and brings with it a certain level of consequense and that is what is happening.
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What I'm flat out saying is murdering someone, selling drugs, etc doesn't get the type of attention this crap has gotten. Lets put the bad people away.

If the guy that lived next door to me wants to do what Vick did that's his problem. If the guy that lives next is a mass murder, selling drugs and pimping high school girls - I have a problem with that. That guy should do hard time time. No I don't condone animal abuse - let's look at the bigger picture here. Prisons are overcrowded but we have space for this clown?
 
HOU-TEX said:
I agree. I hope they sentence him to the maximum. If not, I'd hope Goodell lowers the boom. Whatever it is, I just hope he's unable or too old to come back to the NFL.:bat:
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Why is that? Why can't he put this behind him and move on in life?
 
What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
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~ Captain, Prison 36 (Cool Hand Luke)

Wasn't it Mike Vick that failed a drug test this past September while awaiting sentencing?
Wasn't it Mike Vick that used the psuedonym Ron Mexico when infecting a girl with an STD?
Wasn't it Mike Vick that flipped hard working, money paying fans the bird?

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Color me blind, but I don't see a trend that convinces me he has learned to become a productive member of this society.........yet.
 
Texan_Bill said:
~ Captain, Prison 36 (Cool Hand Luke)

Wasn't it Mike Vick that failed a drug test this past September while awaiting sentencing?
Wasn't it Mike Vick that used the psuedonym Ron Mexico when infecting a girl with an STD?
Wasn't it Mike Vick that flipped hard working, money paying fans the bird?

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Color me blind, but I don't see a trend that convinces me he has learned to become a productive member of this society.........yet.
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Yeah, but he didn't kill someone, deal drugs or rape someone. So we can let him go.....according to Papal.:rolleyes:
 
Specnatz said:
He can put this behind and move on once he has served enough time based upon what he has done not what he does for a living or how much money he has.
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I totally agree. Once he serves his debt to society be it either jail time, house arrest or whatever the court deems necessary. What he does for a living has nothing to do with what Vick the man has done.
 
Texan_Bill said:
~ Captain, Prison 36 (Cool Hand Luke)

Wasn't it Mike Vick that failed a drug test this past September while awaiting sentencing?
Wasn't it Mike Vick that used the psuedonym Ron Mexico when infecting a girl with an STD?
Wasn't it Mike Vick that flipped hard working, money paying fans the bird?

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Color me blind, but I don't see a trend that convinces me he has learned to become a productive member of this society.........yet.
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Are any of those things illegal? When did all those things happen? Before this incident right? Give the man an opportunity.

I'm not trying to come off as a Vick apologist, I'm saying let the man do his time, pay off his debt however the court deems and move on.
Geez - like none of us have ever used a psuedonym and given a girl an STD.
 
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