Just out of curiosity, why are you here? Which team are you a fan of? 21/2 years and you've never made a positive comment about any team. Did you come in with the Chicago meatheads or was it the Oakland delusionals? Just asking
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Just out of curiosity, why are you here? Which team are you a fan of? 21/2 years and you've never made a positive comment about any team. Did you come in with the Chicago meatheads or was it the Oakland delusionals? Just asking
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Those players have or have had insane talent. Talent doesn't necessarily mean they've "realized" that talent. They haven't been improved upon or utilized properly or capitalized on. All those players have immense talent that is not realized because of this coaching staff, training staff, or both.
And homer? I hate this team more than anyone and my posts prove it.
Texansballer74
The Marine
ColeThornton
Waterboy
But baller74 don't you get it, OBrien and Belichick both lost to rookie coaches today.
So why would anyone be critical of OB, I mean, what's the difference, right.
What does this have to do with what I posted? I didn't say anything good about the Texans coaching. Just pointing out that even greats can have rough stretches. Wins and losses are not always on coaches.
And CT, maybe you don't get it. Perhaps talent and game plan and luck have something to do with it. Did you notice that the Colts took the defending Champs to the limit today?
Texansballer74
The Marine
ColeThornton
Waterboy
Because in this thread that's exactly what we're talking about, what a joke OBrien is. So to compare him in any fashion to Belichick is, well, I'll be nice... funny.
And Coaching "is" one of the Texans biggest problems. It's not like OB hasn't been here long enough to put his stamp on things. The stupid mistakes he has made have been well chronicled.
Just as much a talent and depth issue imho. Sure better coaching on both sides of the ball are needed, but so is better talent on both sides
ColeThornton
Waterboy
Texansballer74
The Marine
What's funny to me is we still don't have a true identity. I'm still trying to figure out what type of offensive scheme he's trying to employ. Why are we running Miller up the middle on almost every freaking first down.
And that's my point... some of you are wanting to dump every little thing on OB, even stupid little sh!t like holding or off-sides, taunting when not in uniform, missed FG's etc. My point is there is enough to blame OB for legitimately without having to throw every little displeasing thing on him. Lot's of other shoulders need to carry that load
That is one of the biggest coaching gripes I have
ColeThornton
Waterboy
JB that's because the Texans as an organization have to hit rock bottom before there is any hope of change. McNair will be fine with a bad coach as long as he is not horrible so for those of us who want change there is a tendency to point everything out, hoping for that change. And of course there are many who will defend OBrien under any circumstances. But I will point out that the stupid move on the sideline and off-sides, false starts etc... have something to do with coaching... would you not agree that better coached teams do not seem to have as many of these problems?
Texansballer74
The Marine
ColeThornton
Waterboy
You know, I hear people say they are pros and it should be up to them to be ready to play. While I agree with that to a point, there is no doubt some coaches get their team ready to play better than others. This year the slow starts have been terrible and I think OBrien deserves his share of the blame.
Sure I agree that team discipline comes mainly from the coaching staff. It must also come from team leaders and peer pressure. But no matter how much we would all like to change to bring in a better product, we will never agree on just how to do it. And our squabbling on this MB that the powers that are never read isn't going to change anything. It's just mental masturbation.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Not having a functional offense in squarely on OB.
ColeThornton
Waterboy
Well JB I made it clear I thought we should have gotten rid of OB when Smith left and made a clean start. Since you say we disagree on how to bring the needed change, please tell me what changes you would have made that you think would have had a bigger chance of turning this around than a new coach?
Wolfiegrrl
Fan of NFC Seahawks & AFC Texans
What I see is very similar to what has happened up in Seattle. Pete Carroll comes in with this Ra-Ra college level motivational speaking and gets the club turned in the right direction. However, he doesn't adjust to the growth on his team. He continues with the same motivational stories that the veterans have heard since day one and they decide to jump ship cuz Pete can't\won't change. At least they made a few trips to the SB and got a ring! We had BO'b come in and pull out 9-7 for three years and a couple of playoffs. But once he got to the end of his "playbook" and started recycling the same b.s. he lost the locker room. This "I don't know" answer from the coaching staff and the players tells me that the players don't believe the B.S any more than the fans.
My question is, How long before Cal McNair cuts bait? I don't hold any illusion that Bob McNair is running this franchise anymore. Last time I saw him at a game he looked like his health was in serious decline. It's time to move on from this HC and get someone else in here who actually has an offensive scheme and is willing to delegate responsibilities.
My question is, How long before Cal McNair cuts bait? I don't hold any illusion that Bob McNair is running this franchise anymore. Last time I saw him at a game he looked like his health was in serious decline. It's time to move on from this HC and get someone else in here who actually has an offensive scheme and is willing to delegate responsibilities.