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Could go undrafted - or Texans take him with one of their 6th round picks.Day 3 prospect. 35 3/8” arm length!
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I like that they have visited with Burks.
So if I read it correctly, teams can only talk with Watson's agent and/or team starting 4p.m. Wednesday?
I think the Texans will grant permission for him to speak with teams
I'm going to try and put things in perspective and make a little sense out of Thibodeaux vs Walker comparison, attitudes be damned. For beginners, it's an apples and oranges comparison. Thibodeaux is an OLB Edge rusher; Walker is an interior D lineman.
Georgia ran a 3-4 Defense; DT = Devonte Wyatt, NT - Jordan Davis, DE - Travon Walker. Nakobe Dean was a OLB and the designated edge rusher. Walker was a hand in the dirt interior DL, 3 technique in the Georgia system.
Oregon also ran a 3-4 Defense; DT - Hudson-Ware, NT - Aumavae, DE - Dorlus, Kayvon Thibideaux was the Joker, OLB designated pass rusher. Kayvon did not play with his hand in the dirt, he played standing up fromthe 5 or 7 technique.
Oregon Ducks release first official depth chart for start of 2021 (usatoday.com)
Interior DL do not usually produce BIG defensive numbers. However Walker's numbers for 3-4 DE are very respectable, much more in-line with something you would see from a 4-3 DE. In all fairness, Walker playing DE in Georgia's 3-4 compromised and did a disservice to his production numbers. In much the same way Wisconsin 3-4 D masked JJ Watt's abilities. Highly probable Wade Phillips could do for Walker what he did for Watt. It should also be noted that Thibodeaux lined up outside of the OT almost twice as much as Walker. When Walker did line up outside of the OT it was on his shoulder, 5 technique, hardly ever in a 7 technique. Expecting Walker to have Thibodeaux production is not a fair comparison and a disingenuous argument. Would Thibodeaux had the same or better production if most of his snaps were as an interior DL? Also of note Walker is bigger and faster than Thibodeaux.
Walker accumulated seven quarterback pressures in the national championship against an Alabama offensive line that is always brimming with talent, and many feel he was playing out of position for most of the year, indicating he could be an even better professional than he was a college player.
He is always a 5 or 7 technique. He's a very good player that comes with a bit of an all about me attitude.
This would probably be best for him in the long run.
If he fell to #17 I would run to the podium with the pick
That was right after he signed his big deal
There is some truth regarding some of these guys - then again, many of the issues he describes are not necessarily permanent or unfixable.
Interesting.
Probably why he’s an ex NYJ scout
He's a legacy. We have to draft him.
I saw Lovie there. He was smiling. I hope we come away with Walker and Davis
What's your thinking here?
I can see your point but with a rare deep defensive draft I think we have to follow the talent in the early rounds…depending on how many choices we will have. Might be good to ask for offensive players in any trade deal.
I didn't have much to add this afternoon only caught the last 15 minutes. However it is on this evening and have been watching most of it. They just went thru about 30 minutes of DL drills and Davis, Walker and Wyatt all participated. Amazing, all of them. They really put on a show. They tiptoed thru the ground speed bags and destroyed the standing tackling bags. Lovie was front and center, down on the front row standing about 10 ft away. He was mesmerized like he had never seen anything like it but so was everyone else.
We have already seen some moves regarding our Oline but I would like to see some starch added.
I'm guessing that Lovie comes back from Georgia with a couple of Dawgs in his pocket.
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If the Texans could land Ekwonu and Davis, I'd be thrilled
A lot of merit in loading up the trenches.
Interesting. Some thoughts just for discussion: I think Giants are rolling with Daniel Jones in his last contract season {5th year option declined} looking for their QB 2023. It would take 5 & 36 or 7 & 36 + another pick to get 1.3 and I just don't see that. Most mocks have them going OL at 5 usually Neal, Ekwonu or Cross and at 7 a defensive guy like Walker, Thibs or Hamilton. They do need a QB but I believe NYG goes for 2 starters rather than a risk at QB trading up. They would cut expenses as first round rookie pool now is ~ $8 m so a trade up for $1.3 ~$7 m saves a buck; I'm not opposed just doubt it.
I understand liking Ekwonu at #3 because he can move over to LT in a year or two. But it is arguable that Green is the best pure OG in the draft. He has excelled at the position at all levels of play and his floor is a beach house on piles. I prefer him precisely because he should be available mid first round, allowing a trade down for additional picks. The Texans highest priority is improving the run game and to do that, the priority is a dominant interior o-line. Green would be the first piece.
I think Caserio has to be flexible. If the trade back for #3 stays in the top 10 and nets a 2nd round pick, do it. #13 is trickier, because that might be where the top talent starts to taper off. If there is a Trevor Penning or Jermaine Johnson at #13, I'm staying. If not, I would move down in the mid-20's and look for Zion Johnson or Kenyon Green. I would also be very tempted to take Treylon Burks if here were available in the 20's.
