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Alex Brink?

clearly Kubiak gets his pick.

I'm all in favour of drafting a developmental QB, the Texans with coaching pedigree (Kubiak, takes one to know one) should generate postive returns on his investment. This is most likely Sage last season with the Texans (expect him to go via trade prior to season opener or at least before the trade deadline to some begging franchise) & Gray seeking exposure (hopefully for him his next big contract) it makes alot of sense to sign a QB to the practice squad to develop, heck even if you use a roster slot at the very least Kubiak could generate a higher pick next draft for him.

Texans need to take advanatage of their own resources & QB development is a strong point. :smiliedance:
 
I did not like this pick why why why

WHat a waste

Drafting a QB will not help us win the 2009 season bad move IMO
 
Camp arm....if he makes the grade he earns a PS slot. The kid is a string bean. Feed him up, get him into the weight room, coach him up, let's see what we have in '09. Gruden did the same thing today. He's got two he's going to have to cut loose in '09.
 
pappy said:
We had good shots today at some good talent and chose a SS and QB of no import to this team or of much talent .
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Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.
 
Kubiak saw something in Sage when he was considered a wash-out who couldn't take a QB job away from Fiedler or Feely. He was able to work him up into probably the best backup QB in the league and a guy that a lot of people are looking at as a starter in this league.

If Kubiak sees something in this guy, then maybe he can work him up into something special, too.

I was shocked by the pick and really didn't agree with it (and I thought there were some guys out there that we could probably use), but I can't really knock Kubiak for going after his guy.

Oh.

Wait.

I'm a fan. Of course I can knock Kubiak for going after his guy. My bad.

:texflag:
 
I was a bit perplexed by this pick as well. I think all of your picks are important and you have to take advantage of every opportunity you have to get better players on your team, but at the same time we don't need to be this upset over a 7th rd pick. I do think it's a good sign for our team and management that the pick we're upset about is our 7th rounder. At the end of the day, Smith and Kubiak are the ones that know more about these player/prospects than any of us. They are the ones that know more about the team, where the team is headed, our shorterm and longterm ideas, etc.

Would I have looked at some of the players yall talk about, of course, but I also recognize that Smith knows more about these players and our team than we do. All the teams passed on the players- not to say they aren't good but still, all of them passed on them.

If Kubiak sees promise in Brink then fine, spend our 7th to secure him. Chances are like someone mentioned, it'd be harder to sign an undrafted fa QB.

Maybe, some team calls for Sage at the start of the season or during the season as they realize they NEED a QB or one of theirs got injured. Smith is keeping his options open which is the best thing he can do.
 
LZ said:
Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.
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Now Lance you know darn good and well that adding logic into a discussion about a 7th round pick is entirely not acceptable. I reject your logic and insert my own...........






errr wait I agree with you, never mind carry on.
 
Hook'er said:
Trade Sage!:chickendance:
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It's still not too late. I could see the Texans going into the season with Schaub, Gray, and Brink. I could see John McClain writing "Texans On The Brink!" at the top of an article blasting the team for trading Sage if Schaub and Gray go down.

It's too possible to think about really.

Still, I'm not going to be completely convinced that Sage is here for 2009 until we make it into the preseason and even then it's remotely possible that if a QB gets hurt he could get the call.

I believe that if Sage doesn't get traded then Brink may have a better chance of making this team than Gray. That's kind of out there but still, I think it could happen.
 
Hervoyel said:
It's still not too late. I could see the Texans going into the season with Schaub, Gray, and Brink. I could see John McClain writing "Texans On The Brink!" at the top of an article blasting the team for trading Sage if Schaub and Gray go down.

It's too possible to think about really.

Still, I'm not going to be completely convinced that Sage is here for 2009 until we make it into the preseason and even then it's remotely possible that if a QB gets hurt he could get the call.

I believe that if Sage doesn't get traded then Brink may have a better chance of making this team than Gray. That's kind of out there but still, I think it could happen.
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I have seen some of your post reguarding Brink and I am confussed, I can not tell if your being sarcastic or if you are being truthful. Just wondering so I know.
 
I'm having a little fun. I mean, since Tom Brady became "Superman" after being picked inthe 6th round I figure all bets are off and every guy selected late like that might just.....

Plus I don't look at the 7th round like it's the bottom of the barrell. Why back in my day you young whipper snappers would have waited for days to find out who your teams 14th round pick was. News was delivered by Pony Express and that's just how long it took.

Seriously, it's not what I'd call a draft full of guys you go "Oh cool! We got __________? YES!" Good picks, good draft but nothing to get excited about. I've got two months to kill before anything interesting happens again so I'm on the Brink Bandwagon!
 
LZ said:
Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.
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This post wins the thread.

You win the following: :splits: :specnatz: :smiliedance:
 
Lucky said:
Here's one rationale to draft a QB. With Schaub, Rosenfels, & Gray already on the roster, it would be difficult to grab a decent UDFA QB. Most would look for a spot where they could compete for the 3rd QB spot. And if a trade possibility opens up during the preseason, the Texans might need a 3rd QB. So let's not trash Smith & Kubiak just yet.
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I find this to be a logical argument , thank you .:fans:
 
I will apoligize at the begining if someone already said this, as I did not read all the post. I can't stop thinking with the signing of Gray and the drafting of this kid that we are going to trade Rosenfels. Maybe for the DE we did not get in this draft or maybe future picks. Then again I may be completely off target. However it is a posibility that is hanging out there.
 
Round Seven Alex Brink

Quarterback, Washington State, 6-2, 212, 223rd overall: Brink was Washington State's career passing leader in touchdowns (76) and yards (10,913), impressive stats when considering Ryan Leaf and Drew Bledsoe were Cougars who were first-round picks. Scouts said Brink lacked a strong arm and had only marginal accuracy, but is a competitor.
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http://www.star-telegram.com/329/story/608012.html
 
pappy said:
No they were not , the LT is a project and we needed more than one DB , where is the DE ?
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So, I guess you read somewhere that Duane Brown is a project, so automatically this is a bad pick? Thanks, glad I don't need to watch any football this coming season. I won't lie and say how much tape I have seen on Brown, but I will say that the things I have read lead me to believe he is perfect for Gibbs system...

sorry for the off-topic post...
 
Revolution said:
So, I guess you read somewhere that Duane Brown is a project, so automatically this is a bad pick? Thanks, glad I don't need to watch any football this coming season. I won't lie and say how much tape I have seen on Brown, but I will say that the things I have read lead me to believe he is perfect for Gibbs system...

sorry for the off-topic post...
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Guess you received all those rep's by hijacking other peoples threads ?:goodpost: I never said brown was a bad pick "you did" <------ Automatically
 
Brink was the only player from WSU, University of Washington, Eastern Washington, Western Washington or Central Washington to get drafted this year. It marked the first time since 1940 that the annual draft included only one player from a Washington school.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080428/SPORTS/94893798/1004
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Seems like our new QB saved the whole state of Wasington from a shutout.
 
I wonder if Kubiak sees a little of himself in Brink, smart but without the physical tools. A guy who can carry a clipboard for a decade.
 
LZ said:
Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.
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Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I am not banging on Schaub, it's just the timing wasn't right considering where the team was at when they did that trade.

A great example of the Texans not parlaying value at the QB position is if the Rosenfels trade rumors are true before the draft.

I really don't have an issue with the Brink pick in the 7th. We'll have to see what happens.

The last thing the Texans have shown though, has been handling the QB position properly and creating value to make the team better by leveraging talent at the position while taking some calculating risks.
 
hollywood_texan said:
Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I am not banging on Schaub, it's just the timing wasn't right considering where the team was at when they did that trade.

A great example of the Texans not parlaying value at the QB position is if the Rosenfels trade rumors are true before the draft.

I really don't have an issue with the Brink pick in the 7th. We'll have to see what happens.

The last thing the Texans have shown though, has been handling the QB position properly and creating value to make the team better by leveraging talent at the position while taking some calculating risks.[/QUOTE]


Thus far, it would be hard bent not to consider these circumstances to be describing the Schaub scenario.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
hollywood_texan said:
Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I am not banging on Schaub, it's just the timing wasn't right considering where the team was at when they did that trade.

A great example of the Texans not parlaying value at the QB position is if the Rosenfels trade rumors are true before the draft.

I really don't have an issue with the Brink pick in the 7th. We'll have to see what happens.

The last thing the Texans have shown though, has been handling the QB position properly and creating value to make the team better by leveraging talent at the position while taking some calculating risks.[/QUOTE]


Thus far, it would be hard bent not to consider these circumstances to be describing the Schaub scenario.
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Anyone could easily argue that the Texans could have gone 8-8 last year without Schaub.

Which demonstrates my bigger point, which is that the Texans keep pouring more and more into the QB position with a very low rate of return.

I am not against Schaub, but the deal was too expensive and it wasn't the right time to pull that off considering the risks versus reward.

No one can argue that the Schaub trade has been success yet. It all remains to be seen. Otherwise, Rosenfels would have been shipped off for a draft pick.

Which gets back to the point I was trying to make about the QB position in the Texans history and parlaying value out of the position. It just hasn't happened outside of the Hansen trade. I don't even think Hansen even suited up for the Texans anyway and was drafted as trade bait in the first place.
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TheRealJoker said:
From his description it sounds like he's an overachiever competitive type. If i'm not mistaken Quinn Gray is the type of guy who isn't very motivated sometimes and doesn't work as hard as he should to be a better qb?

I guess Brink is brought in to push Gray and let him know his spot on the roster isn't a gimme. When Gray turns up his play and earns his spot then put Brink on the practice squad and let him compete for a roster spot in 09.
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Brink is strictly a Kubiak pet project. Shane Boyd - who looks like the better athlete to me - is probably out of practice squad eligiblity.
 
ObsiWan said:
Brink is strictly a Kubiak pet project. Shane Boyd - who looks like the better athlete to me - is probably out of practice squad eligiblity.
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He is. I would assume that either he will be a 4th stringer (or 3rd should the FO decide to do something with Sage).
 
adam said:
He is. I would assume that either he will be a 4th stringer (or 3rd should the FO decide to do something with Sage).
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I'm guessing Boyd is gonna be cut.

He has been with four teams in three years & has never managed to get on the field.

He is a great athlete, but he does not have the tools necessary to be an NFL QB.
 
bah007 said:
I'm guessing Boyd is gonna be cut.

He has been with four teams in three years & has never managed to get on the field.

He is a great athlete, but he does not have the tools necessary to be an NFL QB.
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It's certainly possible. In fact, it's likely. I keep forgetting we signed Quinn Gray. Then again, I wouldn't say that Gray is particularly better than Boyd. I could see either, or both getting cut.
 
adam said:
It's certainly possible. In fact, it's likely. I keep forgetting we signed Quinn Gray. Then again, I wouldn't say that Gray is particularly better than Boyd. I could see either, or both getting cut.
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I disagree. I don't think there is any chance Gray is cut before Boyd.

Gray has a career QB Rating of 88.5 & Boyd has never stepped on a NFL field.

Gray has shown flashes of NFL material, & I haven't seen anything from Boyd besides athletic ability.
 
hollywood_texan said:
Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.
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I think that taking Hansen as trade bait was great value becuase you get three people talented people (although undersized) for the price of one and there are some real MMM Bop fans amongst GM's in the NFL.

hanson.jpg


The Henson pick was ok too.
 
hollywood_texan said:
CloakNNNdagger said:
Anyone could easily argue that the Texans could have gone 8-8 last year without Schaub.

Which demonstrates my bigger point, which is that the Texans keep pouring more and more into the QB position with a very low rate of return.

I am not against Schaub, but the deal was too expensive and it wasn't the right time to pull that off considering the risks versus reward.

No one can argue that the Schaub trade has been success yet. It all remains to be seen. Otherwise, Rosenfels would have been shipped off for a draft pick.

Which gets back to the point I was trying to make about the QB position in the Texans history and parlaying value out of the position. It just hasn't happened outside of the Hansen trade. I don't even think Hansen even suited up for the Texans anyway and was drafted as trade bait in the first place.
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everything, I mean everything was riding in getting Carr out of town (nobody wanted him) a solution had to be found in the worst kind of way, you can't tell me there is any price too great to back-out of that decision? yes its still haunts us but I believe we're free & clear (dead money & 2nd rd. draft picks back) after this year :headhurts:

when healthy Schaub has looked pretty good, missed a few passes but the pressure seems to get to him easily, once they resolve his pass protection with Gibbs I expect much better performance.

look at what the Texans had to pay to aquire Sage....nothing & teams are offering 3rd picks. picked up Gray for near league minimum now a 7th rd. QB who broke all Cougar (WSU) passing records (that nobody knows anything about) displays pocket poise, has natural leadership qualities, makes good decisions, has quick release/set-up & can read coverages.

sounds more like Matt Ryan to me or a skinny, slow kid from Michigan drafted in the 6th rd. :)
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beerlover said:
hollywood_texan said:
...now a 7th rd. QB who broke all Cougar (WSU) passing records (that nobody knows anything about) displays pocket poise, has natural leadership qualities, makes good decisions, has quick release/set-up & can read coverages.

sounds more like Matt Ryan to me or a skinny, slow kid from Michigan drafted in the 6th rd. :)
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Let's not go there yet, but it's good to see that I'm not the only person on this board that is excited about Brink.

I saw him play in college, and he is no scrub.

If he gets cut, big deal. A 7th rounder that didn't make the roster! Holy smokes! Call the press!

If he makes the team, and gets a few years under Kubiak, then we can either turn him into trade bait or let him contend for the QB job.

Just because Schaub is the man, doesn't mean he shouldn't have to compete for his job just like everyone else.
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kiwitexansfan said:
I think that taking Hansen as trade bait was great value becuase you get three people talented people (although undersized) for the price of one and there are some real MMM Bop fans amongst GM's in the NFL.

hanson.jpg


The Henson pick was ok too.
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After seeing Hanson at SXSW in Austin in Febuary, you would be surprised by the music they play now as adults. It is not that bebop BS.
 
I'm not sure exactly why some people are so upset about drafting Alex Brink.

I think we need to be realistic about the QB situation.

Sage Rosenfels is a quality backup that wants another shot at a starting gig. His contract ends this coming year and it's possible with some of the hiccups other teams might have with their QB situations we might get a trade. Either way I think it a very strong possibility Sage is gone next year.

Quinn Gray signed a one year deal. I think as TC progresses we'll see what we're going to get with him. Could well be a one year and gone contract.

If he makes it to the PS we will have a guy that will at least have some time with Kubiak and knows what to expect when called upon next year to step it up and make the team as a 3rd stringer.
 
bah007 said:
beerlover said:
Let's not go there yet, but it's good to see that I'm not the only person on this board that is excited about Brink.

I saw him play in college, and he is no scrub.

If he gets cut, big deal. A 7th rounder that didn't make the roster! Holy smokes! Call the press!

If he makes the team, and gets a few years under Kubiak, then we can either turn him into trade bait or let him contend for the QB job.

Just because Schaub is the man, doesn't mean he shouldn't have to compete for his job just like everyone else.
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^

What he said.
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