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AJ no show/now back to work

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Absent from OTA's due to contract stuff, per 610.

Pay the man. He is the best WR in football, give him the keys to the city.
 
Really? Contract stuff/ I thought he signed a new deal not very long ago

Edit: He signed a 6 year deal before the 2007-2008 season worth 60 million with 15 guaranteed.
 
Well, this really sucks. If the Texans don't pay AJ I'll freak out I think.

Maybe its just something that will get worked out quick, I hope so.
 
gtexan02 said:
Really? Contract stuff/ I thought he signed a new deal not very long ago
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I thought so too. Not like last year, but I thought he was locked up for a while by us.

I just got that text too. Damnit. Give him whatever he wants damnit!!!! No.........really.....

:foottap:
 
HTown2ATX said:
I thought so too. Not like last year, but I thought he was locked up for a while by us.

I just got that text too. Damnit. Give him whatever he wants damnit!!!! No.........really.....

:foottap:
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He's signed thru 2014! Screw him if he is using higher team exectations as a means to line his pockets with another $30 million.
 
Why do players need to work out a new contract when they have a great one in place already?

I just don't get it.

AJ is still the man and should be payed whatever it is to keep him but I guess I just don't understand the process.
 
imatexan said:
Why do players need to work out a new contract when they have a great one in place already?

I just don't get it.

AJ is still the man and should be payed whatever it is to keep him but I guess I just don't understand the process.
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He's grabbing for another signing bonus out of fear of no football in 2011, is my guess. Plus, it turns out that he is a greedy b*stard. Dang it!
 
This is ridiculous. He's not even halfway through his current contract, making mega bucks, and he wants more?

First Dunta and now Andre. Again, this is ridiculous.
 
Isn't his contract pretty small compared to the other WR around the league?

He's good so pay the man cause somebody else will. Overpay the man.
 
Yikes, I was not expecting this at all. And to think HBO passed over us for the JETS.

But seriously, he has a long-term contract already in place. Doesnt he know their are other players are this team who have not gotten paid like him?
 
AJ, love ya bro, but it ain't happening this year. With 5 years left on his existing deal I don't think he should get it.

In the end, it's the 1st OTA. If he doesn't show in June, I'll begin to worry. Until then, meh.
 
I am very sympathetic towards players holding out for a deal when they haven't had a big contract yet. A guy like OD, who was drafted in the 4th round, could get injured and never really cash in on his effort and production. Even a guy like A.Boldin, who was drafted late in the 2nd round, has been a great player but unable to score a deal that represents all he's accomplished. However, AJ was given a monster contract as a rookie and then an enormous extension. So, he's received about $40 million in only signing bonuses, not to mention salary. If he does this, I think I'm going to have to boo him.
 
SmoochyTX said:
This is ridiculous. He's not even halfway through his current contract, making mega bucks, and he wants more?

First Dunta and now Andre. Again, this is ridiculous.
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Maybe this is why him and Dunta understood each other and got along.
 
Eh, he's getting paid about 7.7 million a year (with signing bonus incl) and is number 8 on the WR salaries chart. He will likely drop to 9 once Brandon Marshall gets his money.

Here are the 2009 numbers according to the USA Today:
WR Salaries 2009

Edit: sorry, Antonio Bryant won't be in the Top 10 next year, since his current contract is up. AJ should be number 8 next year, unless some other WR gets big bucks like Miles Austin.
 
Why should Bob McNair be forced to give him more money? He's already under contract. He's a millionaire. Multi at that. Go play AJ.
 
Jesus, what ever happened to honoring your freakin" contract! I could easily understand Chris Johnson situation in regards to his contract, but Andre already got his mega deal.

This offseason does not need anymore drama.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Eh, he's getting paid about 7.7 million a year (with signing bonus incl) and is number 8 on the WR salaries chart. He will likely drop to 9 once Brandon Marshall gets his money.

Here are the 2009 numbers according to the USA Today:
WR Salaries 2009

Edit: sorry, Antonio Bryant won't be in the Top 10 next year, since his current contract is up. AJ should be number 8 next year, unless some other WR gets big bucks like Miles Austin.
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This is the only thing it comes down to IMO. He's the best WR in the league and he wants to be paid like it. Having 5 years left on his contract I don't think the Texans should pay him it though.
 
AJ has made about $27 million in signing bonuses, $6 million in other bonuses, and about $16 million (so far thru '09) in salary. Add his endorsement money and he's made way over $50 million and is scheduled to make $6 million or more in salary each of the next 5 seasons. I find it hard to justify a hold out here. I don't mind him starting a dialogue with the team, but a hold out is totally ridiculous!
 
I'm pretty sure Andre feels he is the best receiver in football and wants to get paid as such.

I think this has been under discussion between Andre and the team for quite some time. The Dunta Robinson negotiations were just a warm-up for Rick Smith.
 
No More 8-8's said:
Jesus, what ever happened to honoring your freakin" contract! I could easily understand Chris Johnson situation in regards to his contract, but Andre already got his mega deal.

This offseason does not need anymore drama.
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Peoples daddy's didnt teach them to be men, and when a man gives his word you keep it.
 
dalemurphy said:
AJ has made about $27 million in signing bonuses, $6 million in other bonuses, and about $16 million (so far thru '09) in salary. Add his endorsement money and he's made way over $50 million and is scheduled to make $6 million or more in salary each of the next 5 seasons. I find it hard to justify a hold out here. I don't mind him starting a dialogue with the team, but a hold out is totally ridiculous!
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I think AJ is just using the only bit of leverage he has at this point. I think he is wanting to get serioius talks started. He knows the Texans have to have him to be successful. I also think that while he may skip OTA's, I have no doubt he will be there for TC. I don't have a problem with this really.
 
Hopefully the Dunta situation, the Demeco situation, and the OD situation will help wit hthis one.

The texans aren't budging. You honor your contract, and thats it.

AJ doesn't need a new contract. he's already got a good one. I hope the Texans dont budge
 
AJ just got a new contract a few years ago. Is he going to want to get a new contract every two to three years, just because he isn't the highest paid anymore? Don't mind him missing OTAs, but he better be there from Mini-camp on.
 
JB said:
I think AJ is just using the only bit of leverage he has at this point. I think he is wanting to get serioius talks started. He knows the Texans have to have him to be successful. I also think that while he may skip OTA's, I have no doubt he will be there for TC. I don't have a problem with this really.
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He has made over $50 million is scheduled to make $6 million more this season and is under contract thru 2014... what does a holdout say about his desire to win when he uses the team's best opportunity to make the playoffs as leverage for a money grab?
 
Runner said:
I'm pretty sure Andre feels he is the best receiver in football and wants to get paid as such.

I think this has been under discussion between Andre and the team for quite some time. The Dunta Robinson negotiations were just a warm-up for Rick Smith.
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I didn't think Dunta was worth the contract he got. I'm glad they got Ryans contract worked out. Now Andre wants a new deal and you still have Daniels wanting a better deal. It's part of the business side of football. This is where Rick Smith will be judged the most as the GM.
 
Honestly I don't understand this and I'm disappointed in him. Kareem Jackson needs to pratice with AJ to get to NFL speed early. He's not helping his team out with that.
 
Okay somebody tell me why AJ shouldn't get his hands on some cash during an uncapped year. Re-do some numbers and pay him something good this year when it doesn't count.
 
There is no faster way to earn the scorn of fans then a player who is already in the middle of a contract and asking for more.
 
AJ forcing his hand? Pay me or I want out? Ehh I dont know.

Others have already mentioned this but I'll be more concerned if he's holding out in June, July, August when the "real" stuff and mandatory stuff starts
 
Let the pillorying of the Texans' best player, who also happens to be one of their classiest and most well-respected, begin!
 
Haha I love it. The only time a player has the advantage over the owner is when he is one of the top 10-20 players in the NFL. I dont care what contract he signed 3 years ago. If AJ thinks he deserves more then let the man negotiate. If a owner doesnt want to pay a player he can terminate the contract. I think the same should go for the players. And if this is about contract "stuff" then I am fine with it.

Take em to the bank AJ.
 
Its just money. Pay him what he wants. Hell pay em all whatever they want.

They should all be billionaires.
 
b0ng said:
Okay somebody tell me why AJ shouldn't get his hands on some cash during an uncapped year. Re-do some numbers and pay him something good this year when it doesn't count.
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because he's using the team's opportunity for success as leverage for more money. It's a cheap, selfish, and disgusting tactic from a guy who is closing in on $100 million of income in his twenties. I hope they stick to their guns and refuse to negotiate with him while he's holding out.
 
Fine him until he shows up and offer him more performance incentives based on his and the team's output. Offer him something, but it has to be towards performance.
 
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The fact that he didn't even show up is what's bothering me. Even though I said not showing up in May is not that big of a deal, you wouldn't expect Andre Johnson to do this. At least if he had showed up today, they could start talking. AJ dropped a couple of points in my respect-o-meter.
 
dalemurphy said:
apparently not. I thought so also.
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Dude was there for all the offseason workouts so far. Yetr when he misses one day of OTA's in May, you are ready to toss the #1 WR in the NFL on the trash dump?

That's pathetic...
 
Isn't his Uncle his Agent? The same Uncle who said they'd force a trade, then AJ shot him down saying Texan 4 Life?

Maybe Ol Unc is the serpent in the ear?
 
JB said:
Dude was there for all the offseason workouts so far. Yetr when he misses one day of OTA's in May, you are ready to toss the #1 WR in the NFL on the trash dump?

That's pathetic...
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I think it's the fact that its AJ who's holding out of OTAs because of a contract dispute. A contract that was just reworked two years ago... Doesn't look good on AJ's part, to be honest.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I think it's the fact that its AJ who's holding out of OTAs because of a contract dispute. A contract that was just reworked two years ago... Doesn't look good on AJ's part, to be honest.
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I understand and agree with that, but it is just one day of OTAS in May at this point, and I think he will be there by TC. No reason to villify the man.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Fine him until he shows up and offer him more performance incentives based on his and the team's output. Offer him something, but it has to be towards performance.
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I'm not sure you can fine a player for missing a "voluntary" practice. Can you?

JB said:
Dude was there for all the offseason workouts so far. Yetr when he misses one day of OTA's in May, you are ready to toss the #1 WR in the NFL on the trash dump?

That's pathetic...
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Agreed. I ain't going to worry about anything right now anyway. Heck, I'm surprised he's gone this long without missing an OTA.
 
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