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African American Head Coaching Candidates?

Great - you posted a picture with his mouth open. That will drop his stock with a lot of posters around here.
 
I am suprised someone hasn't mentioned Reggie Bush as coach ...err oops I mentioned it:tomato:
 
FILO_girl said:
:D The offseason is gonna be interesting, especially with all this :sarcasm:
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I'm just waiting for Bush AND Young to declare for the draft. This board would explode! Bush disciples vs. Texas homers! The greatest running back ever vs. the greatest quarterback ever! I'm estimating 7.5 as the over/under on the number of posters that would suffer from apoplexy directly caused by the resulting debates/diatribes.
 
Runner said:
I'm just waiting for Bush AND Young to declare for the draft. This board would explode! Bush disciples vs. Texas homers! The greatest running back ever vs. the greatest quarterback ever! I'm estimating 7.5 as the over/under on the number of posters that would suffer from apoplexy directly caused by the resulting debates/diatribes.
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You did see this, didn't you on the front page of the MB?: Most users ever online was 459, 2 Days Ago at 06:53 PM. LOL.

As it is, sports talk these days is the pits. Everybody authoritatively talking about what the Texans should or shouldn't do re: head coaches, Casserly, draft etc. I don't mind a good argument supporting this position or that, but usually you can tell that someone is saying something cuz they heard it from somebody else blahditty blah, but they don't have a real good reason to support what they are saying. It is painful to listen to 610 these days.

Going back to the topic of the thread, I don't mind the Rooney rule because it is merely a reflection of the fact that the NFL because of the stakes involved and how insular it is, is the ultimate good ole boys club. Not through any maliciousness or intent these days, but rather just that people tend to want to trust and hang out with people like themselves. And when The Powers That Be tend to be white guys, it means that they tend to hire white guys, not because they are white and are guys but because traditionally the coaching ranks were filled with the white guy. Buddies of buddies.

The Rooney rule doesn't make anyone hire someone who is a minority--the best part about it is that it tends to put qualified minority candidates on team's radars. That with the hype of coaching hires, the names of qualified candidates get publicized as someone worth interviewing, and eventually, people start thinking of these assistants as possible head coaches.

The NFL is brutally peformanced based, so nobody is gonna get hired with such a high stakes thing just because of the color of their skin. But the Rooney Rule is just an acknowledgement that the good ole boy system exists and an imperfect way of getting beyond that system. No hiring system will be perfect in a world of imperfect humans.
 
Who freaking cares, the NFL should be investegated for racism. By saying you have to interview a minority person, is direct discrimination. This is a fooey rule.
 
Texans_Chick said:
You did see this, didn't you on the front page of the MB?: Most users ever online was 459, 2 Days Ago at 06:53 PM. LOL.
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I keep seeing new names pop up too - having the number one pick sure creates buzz. It seems I've seen a few first or second posts by new members that say:

"You are all ignorant if you don't think we should take Bush. End of discussion".

or

"Read my lips: you are all imbeciles if you don't trade Bush for multiple draft picks".

Is this supposed to be informative and well reasoned? That is why I fluctuated between "debates" and "diatribes" in my previous post and finally used both.
 
McNair has said that he wants the teams coach to be here long term.. like Cowher. I think he actually specifically mentioned Cowher when he said it.

I think we can eventually expect to have a coach that will be here for decades.. whether the fans are screaming for his head or not.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
NWTexan Fan, You've got to be kidding that this rule is moronic. I'm sure affirmative action makes no sense to you. If before affirmative action nobody would even hire minority candidates or before THIS rule nobody would hire african-american coaches b/c of the belief they weren't smart enough to be a coach.

The only way to disprove that myth is to allow them the chance to show they do know their stuff. Do you really believe OLE MISS would have ever let a african-american in its door had it not been for the civil rights movement?

Oh that's right George Walllace was just going to wake up one day and realized he liked himself a ___________.
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I would agree that AA was needed at one time but it is now outdated.

I love you too and I say "Go Texans!"
 
TEXAN CHICK FOR PRESIDENT! lol

You articulated exactly why so many programs are in place not only in the NFL but in our society as well. You've got my vote if you run for office.

UHCOUGAR....Obviously it appears you arent even old enough to know what discrimination is b/c it probably doesn't exist in your world. Do you really believe that women and minorities would have been given the opportunities they have if it had not been for the women's right movement in the early 1900's or the civil rights movement in the 1500's through 1960's?????
 
The sad legacy of the whole slavery/segregation thing is that we will forever see our differences, we may look past them but we will always see them. So we should interview a FOOTBALL coach, then work out what color wins later.

So sadly, Good Ol' George Wallace was right about segregation then, now and forever. We will always be separated according to our attributes whether it be race, size, sex, income, etc... As long as we are all in agreement with taking Reggie Bush.
 
This whole issue is incredibly touchy. Can someone answer me this: What is the minimum amount of minorities a team has to interview before making a decision?
 
I'd take Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Tony Dungy, Romeo Crommel or Herm Edwards in a heartbeat to be my coach. Getting to a HC position is tough. I wonder if they have even stricter rules for interviewing Assistant Coaches. You figure the more black position coaches and assistant coaches now the more HC's in the future. The 4 guys mentioned above put their time in for sure.
 
bigTEXan8 said:
This whole issue is incredibly touchy. Can someone answer me this: What is the minimum amount of minorities a team has to interview before making a decision?
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I think you could interview one and be in accordance with the rule. I think they really want you to make an effort to not only look at white candidates. But they aren't going to say that you have to interview 3 black coaches before hiring someone.
 
tulexan said:
I think you could interview one and be in accordance with the rule. I think they really want you to make an effort to not only look at white candidates. But they aren't going to say that you have to interview 3 black coaches before hiring someone.
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Actually, I think that is the rule. Remember when Millen got fired for only interviewing like...1 or 2 black coaches?
 
I don't think that Millen interviewed any black coaches and if he did he made it known to the world that they were hiring Mariucci so everyone knew that all of the black coaches interviewed had zero chance of being hired.
 
tulexan said:
I don't think that Millen interviewed any black coaches and if he did he made it known to the world that they were hiring Mariucci so everyone knew that all of the black coaches interviewed had zero chance of being hired.
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IIRC, Millen tried to set up some interviews with black assistants but they all refused because it was already clear that he was going to hire his bud Mooch.

As an aside, and completely non-related to this thread, I am glad Millen is not our GM.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
NWTexan Fan, You've got to be kidding that this rule is moronic. I'm sure affirmative action makes no sense to you. If before affirmative action nobody would even hire minority candidates or before THIS rule nobody would hire african-american coaches b/c of the belief they weren't smart enough to be a coach.

The only way to disprove that myth is to allow them the chance to show they do know their stuff. Do you really believe OLE MISS would have ever let a african-american in its door had it not been for the civil rights movement?

Oh that's right George Walllace was just going to wake up one day and realized he liked himself a ___________.
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I will keep this as nice as I possibly can. No need to flame, just an opinion.

I hate AA (Affirmative Action). I am one who would benefit from AA. I don't want to benefit from AA. I worked in WA State to get AA off the books (failed, but I was in TX by the time it went to the voters but at least I tried). In this day and age, the minorities are starting to outnumber those they supposedly oppressed from. Color is just one component to AA.

I believe color should play no part in deciding who to bring here. Houston is a coat of many colors and as diverse as the population is, anyone that is qualified will be welcome here. 'Nuff said.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
TEXAN CHICK FOR PRESIDENT! lol

You articulated exactly why so many programs are in place not only in the NFL but in our society as well. You've got my vote if you run for office.

UHCOUGAR....Obviously it appears you arent even old enough to know what discrimination is b/c it probably doesn't exist in your world. Do you really believe that women and minorities would have been given the opportunities they have if it had not been for the women's right movement in the early 1900's or the civil rights movement in the 1500's through 1960's?????
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Actually I know alot about descrimination........the fact that you have to interview someone because of the color of their skin is different proves my point. Just because you are ignorant and have blinders on, does not mean you are right. Guess what......if I am so wrong, explain to me why they got rid of affirmative action.........my point exactly. I hope this stupid rule will be abolished soon.
 
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