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African American Head Coaching Candidates?

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Does anyone know of who the 7-8 teams with a head coaching vacancy is gonna interview that is African American? Every coach I've heard of has been Caucasion.
The NFL says every team that has a vacancy has to interview African Americans.
Just curious since it's a rule with consequences if not followed.
 
Jerry Gray will probably be interviewed by all just to comply with the rules. Hope he gets a chance, here or somewhere.
 
Sadly most teams will just interview a token black coach or coordinator with no desire to hire them.

I understand why they have the rule and think that it is a good idea, but believe that most of the time teams just interview a minority candidate because they have to rather than because they want to. I mean some of these teams interview the most random candidate because they are black and they have to. On the other hand, without this rule, coaches like Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, and Romeo Crennel might not have gotten the opportunity to make it in the NFL.

So I really don't know what to think.
 
I want someone who understands good offensive line scheme. That limits my top choices to the OCs at Denver and Kansas City, neither of which happen to be black. If they were black, I'd be all for it. But I want the guy who's most qualified to fix our problem, regardless of color.
 
Art Shell used to be the token black interview for a while (after his head coaching stint) teams didn't know what to do after he took his hat out of the ring

I say if someone's the best, hire them.
 
If I had the opporunity and qualifications to be a coach of any kind in the NFL I would personally be offended if teams interviewed me because the NFL was forcing them to because of my skin color. That is f'ed up in its own. But I guess that's the way it has to be to give the good black coaches a chance.
Is there a requirement for hispanic and asian coaches?
 
YodAa said:
isnt greg williams black?
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I hope your joking!! And if your not, no Greg Williams isn't black. He is the defensive cor. at Washinton. As far as Jerry Grey, he is black as was mentioned by McNair right after the news conference as a person they asked permission to speak to and someone the Texans will look at hard.
 
tulexan said:
Sadly most teams will just interview a token black coach or coordinator with no desire to hire them.

I understand why they have the rule and think that it is a good idea, but believe that most of the time teams just interview a minority candidate because they have to rather than because they want to. I mean some of these teams interview the most random candidate because they are black and they have to. On the other hand, without this rule, coaches like Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, and Romeo Crennel might not have gotten the opportunity to make it in the NFL.

So I really don't know what to think.
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I think the rule stinks. I think in this day and age teams hire the best person for the job period. The guys you mentioned didn't get hired because of the Rooney rule. They were the best person for the job. If someone doesn't want to hire a person because of race then they aren't going to do it. Rooney rule has no effect.
 
Well it seems like Herm Edwards could be available.

As far as the language reads I think its you have to interview a minority candidate not so much a african-american one. I mean I feel like the rule has helped in some aspects b/c for the longest it was a hire who you know and coaches were just being recycled and left out the coaches you just mentioned.

All that said I just want a coach I can feel GOOD about.
 
I mentioned before that Jeff Fisher was one of my choices because he was a player in the league and because he is a defensive coordinator that fired up his unit to play hard for him all the time. The more I think of it, getting Jerry Gray could possibly be and have the same results.

Put my list like this:

1.) Kubiak
2.) Jerry Gray
3.) Herm Edwards or Jeff Fisher if either/or are available.
 
eric138 said:
If I had the opporunity and qualifications to be a coach of any kind in the NFL I would personally be offended if teams interviewed me because the NFL was forcing them to because of my skin color. That is f'ed up in its own. But I guess that's the way it has to be to give the good black coaches a chance.
Is there a requirement for hispanic and asian coaches?
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Are there any qualified asian or hispanic candidates?
 
The one thing I fear of having a black coach is Houston fans. You heard how they treated Moon and his family in the stands when Moon was one of the first black QBs, imagine what they will do when a black man is a coach.

Also by saying this, I am not assuming a black coach will fail or be a losing one. I am saying that if he does end up making bad calls and stuff you will hear alot of bad remarks.
 
I may be giving the city a little too much credit, but I think it's ready for a black HC, not that it will happen, but i think the city's ready.
 
Yea I want to give the city a little bit of credit as well but then again it would be the first african-american to head any pro franchise in Houston.

I have mixed feelings about this one.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Yea I want to give the city a little bit of credit as well but then again it would be the first african-american to head any pro franchise in Houston.

I have mixed feelings about this one.
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Don Chaney Houston Rockets before Rudy and after Fitch
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Yea I want to give the city a little bit of credit as well but then again it would be the first african-american to head any pro franchise in Houston.

I have mixed feelings about this one.
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Don Chaney- Head Coach of the Houston Rockets. 1988-1992
 
El Tejano said:
The one thing I fear of having a black coach is Houston fans. You heard how they treated Moon and his family in the stands when Moon was one of the first black QBs, imagine what they will do when a black man is a coach.

Also by saying this, I am not assuming a black coach will fail or be a losing one. I am saying that if he does end up making bad calls and stuff you will hear alot of bad remarks.
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Nothing we haven't already heard and will continue to hear until we die.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
What do you mena are we supposed to be? I hope you're not meaning from a PC standpoint.
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It's a joke. It was quote from Seinfeld when they had a discussion about race on an episode.

Just my attempt to add some humor to this board that has frequently been bogged down in doom and gloom this year.
 
lol, Runner I know you were adding some humor I just couldn't remember that seinfeld episode. Good Quote though. I was getting in some Seiny last night.

All that said....obviously Texans and Houstonians take their football WAAAAY more seriously than basketball. That would be a major leap for this city.
 
Runner said:
It's a joke. It was quote from Seinfeld when they had a discussion about race on an episode.

Just my attempt to add some humor to this board that has frequently been bogged down in doom and gloom this year.
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The talk on the board has been a reflection of the season, it will turn positive when Mr. McNair FIRES CASSERLY!!
 
Also, Bob Watson was the first black GM in baseball when he was with the Astros. He now works for the Yankees.
 
Kippy Brown is being interviewed as well. Sounds like they are trying to comply with the rules to me. They don't want a situation like what happened in Detroit when they hired Mariucci.
 
I think Tim Lewis should be a qualified African American coaching propect, he can run both the 4-3 and 3-4 as he was part of the Steelers and Giants, 2 programs that are notorious for defense. And trust me, that is what we need right next to a good offensive line.
 
Actually answering the question.

Jerry Gray is a well qualified candidate.
Tim lewis is very qualified.
Ted Cottell is qualified.
Mike Singletary is probably a year or two ahead of schedule
Kippy Brown is a borderline at best.
Ron Rivera: Bears DC- 1st year mentioned , probably the same as Singetary
(from my understanding Hispanic candidates do qualifiy under the rule...in other words minority does not = black only)

With so many jobs, and a relative few bodies, I expect that one or two names will come out of nowhere.
 
You know it should matter what the outside of a person is. What should matter is what kind of coach they are. For that matter why aren't there any hispanic, orientals, native americans.....as head coaches in the NFL? It should not matter!!!! I just hope Houston hires a coach that can get the team back on track. He can be green for all I care. As long as he gets the job done.
 
HEY!! What about a female coach!!:) Goldie Hawn reincarnated!! lol JK guys!! This board DOES need some humor!!
 
:twocents: An NFL owner who does'nt give a minority a fair shot at getting a coaching job is sending a poor message to a team thats 70 % minority .

That in my mind is bad business . The owner does set the stage on the team .
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Actually answering the question.

Jerry Gray is a well qualified candidate.
Tim lewis is very qualified.
Ted Cottell is qualified.
Mike Singletary is probably a year or two ahead of schedule
Kippy Brown is a borderline at best.
Ron Rivera: Bears DC- 1st year mentioned , probably the same as Singetary
(from my understanding Hispanic candidates do qualifiy under the rule...in other words minority does not = black only)

With so many jobs, and a relative few bodies, I expect that one or two names will come out of nowhere.
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Does it really matter?
The next coach will win some and lose more and we will quickly be at his throat saying we should have got the other guy. Everyone will change their avatar and we will start up this post next year. Some cities are just like that, remember we all wanted to fire the coach of the national league pennant champions. We are just like NU YORK and LA. There will never be another Lombardi because no one will EVER work in one place so long ever again. Bye Dom.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Yea I want to give the city a little bit of credit as well but then again it would be the first african-american to head any pro franchise in Houston.

I have mixed feelings about this one.
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Don Cheney was coach for the Rockets and he was black. He was also coach of the year once.
 
Joe Gibbs could work in DC until he dies and will never be criticized because he is a god over there.
 
The rule is moronic...hire the best man for the job whether he is black, white or green. To have a rule as asinine as this reminds me how much I hate affirmative action. Sheesh...
 
pv1999 said:
Does it really matter?
The next coach will win some and lose more and we will quickly be at his throat saying we should have got the other guy. Everyone will change their avatar and we will start up this post next year. Some cities are just like that, remember we all wanted to fire the coach of the national league pennant champions. We are just like NU YORK and LA. There will never be another Lombardi because no one will EVER work in one place so long ever again. Bye Dom.
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this post is laced with sarcasm but sadly enough I agree with it (except for: There will never be another Lombardi because no one will EVER work in one place so long ever again.)
 
Vince Lombardi Green Bay 1959-1967 Bill Cowher Pittsburgh 1992-2005 Jeff Fisher Tenn 1994-2005.
 
NWTexan Fan, You've got to be kidding that this rule is moronic. I'm sure affirmative action makes no sense to you. If before affirmative action nobody would even hire minority candidates or before THIS rule nobody would hire african-american coaches b/c of the belief they weren't smart enough to be a coach.

The only way to disprove that myth is to allow them the chance to show they do know their stuff. Do you really believe OLE MISS would have ever let a african-american in its door had it not been for the civil rights movement?

Oh that's right George Walllace was just going to wake up one day and realized he liked himself a ___________.
 
:redtowel: The problem was also that nobody would interview a minority coach . How do you learn how to interview when you can't get interviewed . That was a cop out for awhile that minority's were beaten in the interviews .
 
YodAa said:
isnt greg williams black?
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Say hello to Gregg Williams.
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