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Aaron Schobel Retired

HOU-TEX said:
I think the Patriots run too much 3-4 for his liking. They did run some 4-3 stuff, but not as much as we do.
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They are saying that Bill Bellichek really loves signing guys that hurt him when playing on different teams. And it looks like they maybe moving to more of a 4-3 defense due to lack of personell.
 
BullNation4Life said:
His "surgery" was a scope. Nothing to be concerned about a scope of the shoulder, no more than Casey getting his knee scoped.

He is 6'8 and near 300 lbs how is he not built? Love how folks can say "oh he isn't built for this position or that position." He is a baller, easy as that. Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis are built like a LBs yet seems to do pretty fine where they are...

If they sign Schobel, you will most likely see Mario inside on some passing downs...
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I seem to recall Boselli having a minor surgical procedure on his shoulder one offseason. It was said that Boselli would be ready for the regular season.

How did that turn out?

You wont know how MW is until the regular season. This is yet another reason to sign Schobel. I have a feeling uncle BoB will cough up the $$$ for Schobel.

Schobel fits the profile uncle BoB wants on his team. (Cookie and milk, Ice cream and apple pie)

Luckily, Schobel can still play. IMHO
 
dalemurphy said:
Schobel will be a Texan in 24 Hours

I’m not Adam Schefter but my sources are as solid as ESPN’s sources saying “Bret Favre is retiring”. Multiple reports assert the Bills will cut Aaron Schobel today. Given the fact that the Bills GM is on record saying that they don’t want him on the team and given his huge contract, I am confident the reports are accurate.

Why do I have confidence he’s coming to Houston? Well, I am not always a believer in reports from John McClain. However, yesterday, McClain directly quoted Schobel saying that Houston is the team he wants to play for. McClain doesn’t make up quotes. When he is speculating or trying to fill newspaper/blog space, he will say “I think” or “I’m hearing”… Also, there seems to be some real momentum to this deal.

I think it is a great deal for the Texans. I’m not a guy who usually gets excited about big name free agents and 30+ year old veterans signing with my team but this move would make a ton of sense. The Texans have two pure edge rushers on their entire 80 man roster right now: Connor Barwin and Tim Jamison. Both players are young and somewhat unpolished. Antonio Smith is actually a better interior pass rusher and Mario, though he provides an excellent pass rush, is not a classic edge rusher. (more http://www.texansbullblog.com/schobel-texan-24-hours/news/)
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Great news Dal.
 
dalemurphy said:
Schobel will be a Texan in 24 Hours

I’m not Adam Schefter but my sources are as solid as ESPN’s sources saying “Bret Favre is retiring”. Multiple reports assert the Bills will cut Aaron Schobel today. Given the fact that the Bills GM is on record saying that they don’t want him on the team and given his huge contract, I am confident the reports are accurate.

Why do I have confidence he’s coming to Houston? Well, I am not always a believer in reports from John McClain. However, yesterday, McClain directly quoted Schobel saying that Houston is the team he wants to play for. McClain doesn’t make up quotes. When he is speculating or trying to fill newspaper/blog space, he will say “I think” or “I’m hearing”… Also, there seems to be some real momentum to this deal.

I think it is a great deal for the Texans. I’m not a guy who usually gets excited about big name free agents and 30+ year old veterans signing with my team but this move would make a ton of sense. The Texans have two pure edge rushers on their entire 80 man roster right now: Connor Barwin and Tim Jamison. Both players are young and somewhat unpolished. Antonio Smith is actually a better interior pass rusher and Mario, though he provides an excellent pass rush, is not a classic edge rusher. (more http://www.texansbullblog.com/schobel-texan-24-hours/news/)
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I hope so too. But does your sources say anything about him being signed by the Texans? or just being released?

Inquiring minds want to know.
 
I think he is also looking for a tad of respect as he did not get to decide if he will retire or come back. If he can't beat out what we have, he can retire & not feel embarrassed. Why not offer him a 2-3 year deal with a decent signing bonus as none of the years are guaranteed? I see no indicators he should slide much this season & should be worth $3-4m base + bonus. Even if he turns into a back up like Wade Smith appears to be headed, having him on roster makes me more comfortable about Mario's health. Sort of like the Miller backing up Yao deal.
 
badboy said:
I think he is also looking for a tad of respect as he did not get to decide if he will retire or come back. If he can't beat out what we have, he can retire & not feel embarrassed. Why not offer him a 2-3 year deal with a decent signing bonus as none of the years are guaranteed? I see no indicators he should slide much this season & should be worth $3-4m base + bonus. Even if he turns into a back up like Wade Smith appears to be headed, having him on roster makes me more comfortable about Mario's health. Sort of like the Miller backing up Yao deal.
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Your right, but the problem is going to lie with Bob and Rick wanting to spend the money because they know they have to take care of AJ.
 
No More 8-8's said:
I hope so too. But does your sources say anything about him being signed by the Texans? or just being released?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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My "source" is simply a collection of information from national guys, local stories in Buffalo, and McClain's report/quotes of Schobel and Schobel's friend. I was partially mocking ESPN... That being said, I am genuinely confident that this is going to happen. If you take all that information together, it is pretty clear the direction this thing is going.

On the bottom of the blog, I have a youtube video that plays a report from a local Buffalo TV station. Among other things, the story concludes by mentioning that Schobel will be at his home in Houston while he waits for Buffalo and also decides what he is going to do next:

http://www.texansbullblog.com/schobel-texan-24-hours/news/
 
Remember, no football next year. So this would be a three year deal unless the Texans wanted to retain his rights beyond the lockout for some reason.
 
He will be released today according to Schefter..love his updates

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

Bills have no practice this morning, but they do have news. They will release two-time Pro Bowl DE Aaron Schobel today.
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Schobel does want to continue playing and soon will begin looking for a new home. He's from Houston, a team that could use a pass rusher.
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I love that family because they added so much to TCU football. He would be a good addition. But with next year looming and people not spending cash, Bob couldn't just throw a ton of cash at him.
 
dalemurphy said:
My "source" is simply a collection of information from national guys, local stories in Buffalo, and McClain's report/quotes of Schobel and Schobel's friend. I was partially mocking ESPN... That being said, I am genuinely confident that this is going to happen. If you take all that information together, it is pretty clear the direction this thing is going.

On the bottom of the blog, I have a youtube video that plays a report from a local Buffalo TV station. Among other things, the story concludes by mentioning that Schobel will be at his home in Houston while he waits for Buffalo and also decides what he is going to do next:

http://www.texansbullblog.com/schobel-texan-24-hours/news/
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The only part of your assessment I question is "24 hours".

I don't think Schobel will be in a hurry here. No established veteran likes the early part of training camp. And he'll want to field offers from other team to establish his value. Unless we're simply not interested--we can't be that stupid, can we?--we'll get the chance to match his best offer.

For our part, we can afford to wait on him. Unlike a certain drama queen in Mississippi, Schobel doesn't play a position that requires much practice time to get on the same page with his teammates. All we need to do is wind him up, send him in on passing downs and watch him eat some QBs.

My guess is he'll hang out for a week, field offers and ultimately sign with us before the first preseason game.
 
dalemurphy said:
My "source" is simply a collection of information from national guys, local stories in Buffalo, and McClain's report/quotes of Schobel and Schobel's friend. I was partially mocking ESPN... That being said, I am genuinely confident that this is going to happen. If you take all that information together, it is pretty clear the direction this thing is going.

On the bottom of the blog, I have a youtube video that plays a report from a local Buffalo TV station. Among other things, the story concludes by mentioning that Schobel will be at his home in Houston while he waits for Buffalo and also decides what he is going to do next:

http://www.texansbullblog.com/schobel-texan-24-hours/news/
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Cool. Thanks for the info. I sincerely hope that this does work out.
 
dalemurphy said:
Schobel will be a Texan in 24 Hours

I’m not Adam Schefter but my sources are as solid as ESPN’s sources saying “Bret Favre is retiring”. Multiple reports assert the Bills will cut Aaron Schobel today. Given the fact that the Bills GM is on record saying that they don’t want him on the team and given his huge contract, I am confident the reports are accurate.

Why do I have confidence he’s coming to Houston? Well, I am not always a believer in reports from John McClain. However, yesterday, McClain directly quoted Schobel saying that Houston is the team he wants to play for. McClain doesn’t make up quotes. When he is speculating or trying to fill newspaper/blog space, he will say “I think” or “I’m hearing”… Also, there seems to be some real momentum to this deal.

I think it is a great deal for the Texans. I’m not a guy who usually gets excited about big name free agents and 30+ year old veterans signing with my team but this move would make a ton of sense. The Texans have two pure edge rushers on their entire 80 man roster right now: Connor Barwin and Tim Jamison. Both players are young and somewhat unpolished. Antonio Smith is actually a better interior pass rusher and Mario, though he provides an excellent pass rush, is not a classic edge rusher. (more http://www.texansbullblog.com/schobel-texan-24-hours/news/)
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Why do I keep hearing people say this? I couldn't disagree more. Mario is an elite edge rusher in this league.
 
Yeah, the further we wait, the more chances some other team would like to join in and over pay. Especially since TC has started and more players are likely to get injured.
 
eriadoc said:
Remember, no football next year. So this would be a three year deal unless the Texans wanted to retain his rights beyond the lockout for some reason.
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We should be looking at a one year deal. If he likes us and we like him, we can do it again if/when we get the chance for 2011. I can't see anyone offering an about-to-be 33 year old DE a long term contract. For his part, I think he'll maximize his money by playing a year at a time.
 
Hooston Texan said:
We should be looking at a one year deal. If he likes us and we like him, we can do it again if/when we get the chance for 2011. I can't see anyone offering an about-to-be 33 year old DE a long term contract. For his part, I think he'll maximize his money by playing a year at a time.
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I agree. There was some comment above about a 2-yr. deal, and I figured I'd remind people about the lockout.
 
dc_txtech said:
Why do I keep hearing people say this? I couldn't disagree more. Mario is an elite edge rusher in this league.
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How many times in the past three years has Mario lined up outside of the OT, attacked the OT's left side, dipped his shoulder, planted his left foot, and then explode into the blindside of the QB.... Then, how many times did he counter that move with an inside spin move when the OT is over-committed to the outside?

Mario is an excellent DE and a very good pass rusher. But, his skills aren't the same as guys like Freeney, D.Ware, etc... that is not a criticism. Mario could lineup at DT or faceup on the OT and his pass rush would still be good. He can play the run very well... something some of these guys can't. He's big and very strong, so he has a different skill set than someone 3 inches shorter and 45 lbs lighter.

Here's something from LZ that talks about it: http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2010/07/conner_barwin_paging_connor_ba.html
 
HoustonFrog said:
He will be released today according to Schefter..love his updates

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter





I love that family because they added so much to TCU football. He would be a good addition. But with next year looming and people not spending cash, Bob couldn't just throw a ton of cash at him.
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Bob could throw cash at him. It's an uncapped year. He wont throw cash at Schobel. Because that's just the way uncle BoB operates.

With that said Schobel will be a Texan next year and make this the best pass rushing team in Texans history. IMHO
 
As mentioned prior, if Schobel causes us to bump Mario inside on passing downs then it's a great idea! I dont like the idea of playing Schobal over Barwin but a front four of Schobal-Mario-Smith-Barwin would be nice!
 
dalemurphy said:
How many times in the past three years has Mario lined up outside of the OT, attacked the OT's left side, dipped his shoulder, planted his left foot, and then explode into the blindside of the QB.... Then, how many times did he counter that move with an inside spin move when the OT is over-committed to the outside?

Well, he's lined up on at LDE most of the time so he's not going after the QB's blindside but to answer your question in general, I see him blow by tackles on a pretty consistent basis. Trouble is the QB is usually able to step up in the pocket due to a lack of penetration from the DT's. I do admit that he hasn't developed much of a spin move.

Mario is an excellent DE and a very good pass rusher. But, his skills aren't the same as guys like Freeney, D.Ware, etc... that is not a criticism. Mario could lineup at DT or faceup on the OT and his pass rush would still be good. He can play the run very well... something some of these guys can't. He's big and very strong, so he has a different skill set than someone 3 inches shorter and 45 lbs lighter.


Freeney and Ware are probably number 1 and 2 in the league when it comes to rushing from the edge, so just because Mario doesn't have the type of numbers those guys do doesn't mean he's not an elite edge rusher. Also, just because he can play the run well doesn't take anything away from the fact that he is also great at rushing from the edge. Yeah, he's big and strong, but he's also fast and agile.

Here's something from LZ that talks about it: http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2010/07/conner_barwin_paging_connor_ba.html
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Yeah I read that article, that's probably where I first heard the "Mario not a classic edge rusher" statement made. I still gotta disagree with you and LZ here, although I do see your points.
 
johndoe said:
As mentioned prior, if Schobel causes us to bump Mario inside on passing downs then it's a great idea! I dont like the idea of playing Schobal over Barwin but a front four of Schobal-Mario-Smith-Barwin would be nice!
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I just don't see our coordinator putting the meanie at the end in the middle. They did it his rookie season because they were idiots and have been sacked because of idiocy, and I don't think that Kubiak is going to return to that. I think they are going to be impressed enough in training camp to keep at least 1 listed DT on the field, even for passing downs.
 
dc_txtech said:
Yeah I read that article, that's probably where I first heard the "Mario not a classic edge rusher" statement made. I still gotta disagree with you and LZ here, although I do see your points.
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We're arguing semantics a bit, I think. I'm not criticizing Mario at all. Think about the RB position. Even if we had Earl Campbell on the team, someone like Darren Sproles would be an asset, because Sproles has a skill set that Campbell does not.

Mario's heighth and size benefits him in a number of ways. However, there are matchups that a smaller and quicker guy would excel in, where Mario might not. Obviously, the reverse is true also. One of the greatest LTs in the history of the NFL was Jonathan Ogden. Ogden was huge, had great feet, long arms, and excellent technique. He was 6'8". Freeney murdered him, because Freeney was so short that he could dip his shoulder and turn the corner and Ogden simply couldn't reach him without overbending at the waist... that's just one obvious example.
 
I know it's not really similar, but the Rosevelt Colvin signing keeps popping into my head. Many of us had high expectations from that signing and it ended up a joke.

I wouldn't mind grabbing him for a Texan friendly deal. It'd be interesting how the Dline shakes out if we were to bring him in.
 
BIG TORO said:
Your right, but the problem is going to lie with Bob and Rick wanting to spend the money because they know they have to take care of AJ.
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It is an uncapped year and this guy offers a possibility of double digit sacks. The problem lies in determining how much gas is left in the tank. Work in a ratio for plays per game to earn bonus and you will be ok.
 
I gaurantee you Schobel will not be with the Houston Texans in 2010. Want to know what makes me so sure?

Because you guys want it so bad, and it makes too much sense.


It will never happen.
 
thunderkyss said:
I gaurantee you Schobel will not be with the Houston Texans in 2010. Want to know what makes me so sure?

Because you guys want it so bad, and it makes too much sense.


It will never happen.
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Lol, I understand your logic, but I don't like it!:bat:
 
johndoe said:
As mentioned prior, if Schobel causes us to bump Mario inside on passing downs then it's a great idea! I dont like the idea of playing Schobal over Barwin but a front four of Schobal-Mario-Smith-Barwin would be nice!
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:thud:

Why do I keep seeing this? They aren't going to slip Mario inside.

Dutchrudder said:
They had a couple opportunities to pick him before us, but passed. The organization couldn't have liked him too much or not enough.
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I heard they liked him going into that draft. My guess is they were surprised Brace fell to them and were thin at corner so they went with someone who could turn into a real solid in in Butler.

Probably took a chance as well that he might slip further and could make a move.

Conor has the athleticism you usually look for in a 3-4 Lber and would've fit in really well there I think.
 
Besides his sack totals, I like his other stats - forced fumbles and pass deflections on the edge. His career stat line is right on par with Freeney's.
 
Bills release Schobel

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/ar...-Schobel/58e6a835-2275-4201-978d-7638334e5e0d

The nine-year relationship between the Bills and Aaron Schobel has officially come to an end. Though the team announced on Monday that they were moving forward without him on their roster, the plan was to keep him on the Reserve/Did Not Report list until he made a decision about his playing future. That plan changed on Wednesday as the team outright released him.

“As everyone knows by now, on Monday we had informed Aaron’s agent that he was not in our plans for the 2010 season and we made a formal announcement right after that so our fans knew. Aaron remained on the “Did Not Report to Camp” list so no transaction had taken place at that time. We continued to evaluate the situation and feel the best way to proceed is to release Aaron and that’s what we have done.”

Releasing Schobel frees the Bills of the last four years of Schobel’s contract. It also gives Schobel the opportunity to pursue a playing opportunity elsewhere if he chooses to play in 2010.

As of Wednesday morning Schobel was still undecided.

“I don’t know what I’m going to do,” Schobel stated via text to Buffalobills.com. “I’m going to take a week and then maybe, I would say within a two week period I’m going to go one way or the other, that’s for sure. I’m either going to try to get it going or I’m going to put my (retirement) papers in. That’s what I’ll do.”

Nix made it clear that the organization felt Schobel deserved the opportunity to play elsewhere if he chooses to do so.

“If he chooses to retire, he will do so as a Buffalo Bill,” said Nix. “But this move allows him the opportunity to play somewhere else if so chooses and we felt that was a fair thing to do for a guy who has played hard for us the past nine seasons. I enjoyed a good conversation with Aaron after we turned the transaction into the league and he still has not decided what he wants to do. Our fans should know that this decision was made in the best interests of the Buffalo Bills and Aaron Schobel and like I said on Monday, we wish Aaron the best of luck in whatever he ultimately decides.”

Knowing his young family, which includes three school age children, is a big part of the decision making process, many believe if Schobel does elect to play one more season that he would prefer the Houston Texans, which are about an hour away from his Columbus, Texas home. Houston’s defensive line coach Bill Kollar also coached Schobel in Buffalo for three seasons and is a close personal friend.

The Texans are a team looking to get over the hump and make the playoffs and might consider Schobel a worthwhile option if the price is right, especially with top pass rusher Mario Williams currently sidelined with a hip injury.

Schobel, who turns 33 in a month, is coming off a 2009 season in which he had 10 sacks, the fourth double-digit sack season of his career.
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Vinnie said:
I doubt the only team, but probably the preferred team.
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This just seems like something that will end up with the Texans just being used for something (I don't know what in this case). I imagine New Orleans would also be a place that he wouldn't mind playing.
 
Let the games begin! I know the Patriots are going to make a good run. Remember Alan Faneca? Very similar situation. Very solid veteran, the city is close to his hometown, would provide more depth, and we thought he wouldnt want that much money to come back and play for the Texans. We were wrong with Faneca and hopefully we'll be right about Schobel.
 
barrett said:
I don't even think it's probably unless he's blowing smoke.

"If I were a free agent and I could choose a team, it would be the Texans without a doubt," Schobel said Monday. "Houston would be the best spot for me."
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It's a slam dunk.

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get this deal done. schobel would become the best pass rusher the Texans have ever had.

Truth Hurts. Sorry Mario....now get off your butt and do something besides waltz with OTs. Beating TEs and scrub OL is one thing, but why not beat decent LTs. After all, you were the #1 overall pick....not as if we have had much luck with #1 overalls anyway.
 
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