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A Thoroughly Unpleasant Experience

Wharton

Wharton

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I'm going to say "sorry for the flame" up front but I didn't see anything on the message board about this and I am sure others would agree with me.

WHEN THE HEAT INDEX IS OVER 90, CLOSE THE ROOF!!!!!!

According to Yahoo weather, the temperature was 93 at 4:30 (after the game) with a high of 95. There is no telling what the heat index was during the game. Particularly, given there is little to no breeze in the stadium.

One of the fans seated two rows in front of me passed out!! During half time, I saw another guy being carted off on a stretcher with an IV in his arm. As for myself, I spent the second half in an air conditioned part of the stadium near the smokers area and watched the second half on the TV. This is not the way I want to spend my games.

Again, I am sorry for the flame, but I do not know of a better way to get this point across to management.

Sign if you agree.

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watched this one from home and it had the field temp at 120 at the start of the game. It was only 108 at halftime.

I am sure that the Texans were hoping that the heat would affect the Steelers moreso than the fans. to bad it seems to have not been a 'good call' on either side of the ball.
 
Guys: I do not know about you, but everything was great tailgating. In fact one of the best times had bad all.

However, my crew had a very bad feeling walking into the stadium today when we felt that 100 degree temperature. Now, interestingly enough, I had some Steeler fans behind me, who were totally cool, in from Latrobe. They were commenting before the game that they could not believe Capers would leave the roof open to expose his players and his fans to the 100 degree temps. In fact, they all commented that Pittsburg is so humid and hot in August and the players have been playing in extreme heat for over a month and no advantage was to be gained by doing this.

So, how bone-headed was it to take the fans out of the game with play and heat, as seen by the droves of fans that headed for shelter end of the 1st quarter? We left by mid third quarter and I have never left any Texan game early--even the blowouts. The environment was so bad that most of the fans left by begining of the third and this playing was not the only reason. The heat was oppresive!

I think this added to the misery, but it started off on the wrong foot, because the Texans did not gain any advantage. How much of a miscalculation was it? I think it was huge. It did not cost the game, but looking back it sure looked foolish from a strategy standpoint and selfish from a customer service standpoint. But, what about in-game strategy?

FYI: Head Coach makes the call on roof opening.
FYI2: I know someone in Emergency services who said they had 100+ heat related medical calls in the stadium before half time.
 
JamesLovesGames said:
The Steelers were on the shady side of the stadium.
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Not that I necessarily disagree with the thread's point, but I was on the field on the Steelers side, and it was NOT shady. I have the sunburn to prove it!
 
I left the game about half way into the second quarter when my heart rate went up to 180 and I started throwing irreg beats! So sick I didn't think I could walk back to my car. I am depressed over this!! I want to be there in that stadium screaming for my team, not fighting for my life!! If it was 120 on the field, it had to be 140 in the North end zone! If I'm gonna have to watch the game on TV, I will watch it at home! Besides, the concourses and cantina's were filled with fans staying out of the heat. Fine way to keep fans in their seats!!!! A stupid decision on the part of the Texans!!

OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the heat didn't bother the Steelers all that much at all!!!!!!
 
mmontgo said:
Guys: I do not know about you, but everything was great tailgating. In fact one of the best times had bad all.

However, my crew had a very bad feeling walking into the stadium today when we felt that 100 degree temperature. Now, interestingly enough, I had some Steeler fans behind me, who were totally cool, in from Latrobe. They were commenting before the game that they could not believe Capers would leave the roof open to expose his players and his fans to the 100 degree temps. In fact, they all commented that Pittsburg is so humid and hot in August and the players have been playing in extreme heat for over a month and no advantage was to be gained by doing this.

So, how bone-headed was it to take the fans out of the game with play and heat, as seen by the droves of fans that headed for shelter end of the 1st quarter? We left by mid third quarter and I have never left any Texan game early--even the blowouts. The environment was so bad that most of the fans left by begining of the third and this playing was not the only reason. The heat was oppresive!

I think this added to the misery, but it started off on the wrong foot, because the Texans did not gain any advantage. How much of a miscalculation was it? I think it was huge. It did not cost the game, but looking back it sure looked foolish from a strategy standpoint and selfish from a customer service standpoint. But, what about in-game strategy?

FYI: Head Coach makes the call on roof opening.
FYI2: I know someone in Emergency services who said they had 100+ heat related medical calls in the stadium before half time.
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THIS WAS RIDICULOUS.

I spend all that money to sit in the seats, and I have to sit through 120 degrees!!! Not even to mention the sloth that was put on the field today.


Terrible, terrible idea leaving the roof open. That is why we have a roof, close it.
 
SheTexan said:
I left the game about half way into the second quarter when my heart rate went up to 180 and I started throwing irreg beats! So sick I didn't think I could walk back to my car. I am depressed over this!! I want to be there in that stadium screaming for my team, not fighting for my life!! If it was 120 on the field, it had to be 140 in the North end zone! If I'm gonna have to watch the game on TV, I will watch it at home! Besides, the concourses and cantina's were filled with fans staying out of the heat. Fine way to keep fans in their seats!!!! A stupid decision on the part of the Texans!!

OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the heat didn't bother the Steelers all that much at all!!!!!!
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I was with you, the north side of the stadium was ridiculous.
 
I've said in a previous post that I thought we should bake the Steelers and get a real home field advantage by opening the roof.

I was wrong. I wonder if John McClain of the Chronicle who has expressed a similar opinion will admit it too. (He prolly has no idea how bad it was given his spot in the press box). I find him very entertaining, but it is hard to get a home field advantage when a lot of your fans are unable to sit in a packed stadium baking in the sun--it is not a matter of being wusses, it is metric death hot there.

The Bull Pen end of the field is solid but even so, I've never seen it so empty on that side of the field. If they have to get in the shade (or just leave), it is just dangerous.

With the closed in, up and down nature of the stadium, there is no breeze. At all. It was seriously dangerous to be in there.

And it was interesting to see that the September shadows don't help the Texans at all. Never saw those before so I dint know the sun angle. (The sun was on both teams equally, later in the year, it only goes to the visitor's side). I am sure the Texans staff knew that stuff, but I guess they wanted to try to use the weather to help us.

I was seated in the shade and it was hotter than heck. I've been in the sun at Reliant before but I bet this was the worst ever by far for baking.

It is a football game. We want to win. That being said, we shouldn't have to worry about fans getting ill. In the winter you can put more clothes on, but there is only so much you can take off, and it is still hot.
 
mmontgo said:
Guys: I do not know about you, but everything was great tailgating. In fact one of the best times had bad all. .........

FYI: Head Coach makes the call on roof opening.
FYI2: I know someone in Emergency services who said they had 100+ heat related medical calls in the stadium before half time.
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Just so you know, my tailgating group was there bright and early for the opening of the gates. We, also, had a very good time. But, then again, we have four huge tents providing shade and one of the guys brought a misting fan to cool the air (FYI those things really do work!!!).

While I am going to take your word for it, creating an environment were 100+ people have medical treatment because of the heat, sounds more then a little bit irresponsible, and maybe even negligent.

The retractable roof was put in place so that fans can enjoy the game in the open air during times of GOOD Texas weather. I have lived in Texas all my life, and trust me when I say that 90+ degrees, is NOT good Texas weather.
 
Today's game showed a clear disrespect for the fans. My parents, in their 70's, forked over a large sum for 6 PSL licenses and season tickets to the Texans' games with the knowledge that a retractable-roof stadium was being built for the team. We assumed that the intent was protection from unpleasant weather, and it doesn't snow here.

My mother and I staked a spot standing 5 feet behind the rail behind our section, waiting for the sun to move. Of course, other fans did not follow this rule, and nothing was done. At one point, we were asked to "walk around the concouse" because we were creating a fire hazard. Thankfully, a kinder Texans employee overruled him. Our view was fair until it was obscured by a group treating a women who became overheated while seated in the sun. Viewing the red-faced, sweltering fans leaving their seats for the concourse area was alarming.

When the shade finally came, we went to our seats. At that point, I became concerned by my father's appearance, and tried to help him out with wet towels, etc. We normally eat lunch at the game, but today no one ate. We were worried about getting sick.

I thought going to a Texans game was supposed to be fun. Now my parents and 12 year-old son don't want to go to any games where the roof might be open.

In conclusion, I am baffled by the notion that the heat gave the Texans home field advantage. The Texans usually practice in a bubble! I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that the noise factor with the roof closed would've been much more advantageous to the team. But then, the BOOs would have seemed louder, too.
 
I am a paramedic with the City of Houston and went to the game as a spectator. I spent the the entire second quarter and most of the third taking care of elderly people who were getting over heated near the north end zone. The Texans let everyone know that the the roof was going to be open and to stay well hydrated. No problem with the notification. My problem is that there was NO WATER for sale in this area. Several people went up to get Hydrated and were told that there was no water left in the stadium. After helping several people I went to customer service and said we had a problem developing. Absolutely no help. There was no one who took responsibility for getting water or no point person to whom I could talk to regarding the problem. Finally, I contacted the EMS Director for the City of Houston with my personal cell phone, within 15 minutes water brought to the area. The response from Reliant today was absolutely pathetic with ushers asking me what they should do and thanking me for taking control. I usually don't get passionate about responses but their EMS response was scary. Bob McNair definately will hear it from me because we were very close to having a real catastrophe.
 
TO ALL:

EVERYONE needs to send emails and call to the front office and vote our displeasure. We need to push this forward so it does not happen again. My heart goes out to everyone who has health issues at the game. what a horrible experience. my wife is 6 months pregnant and went through the same thing, luckily there was an attendant that was awesome to us in the face of adversity and found my wife a couple open, shaded seats so we could at least watch part of the game. However, with no air flow, it was still bad in the shade. we could never cool down and we are in shape, healthy adults!

So, we all have to email and call customer service at the Texan org. i am sure they already know, but the only way to impress upon them to not let this happen again, is to call them out. i am shocked, Bob McNair, who runs a fabulous organization, except the coaching staff, would let this happen. I am sure he noticed the droves of fans leaving at halftime and filing out. he had to I am certain.

Shame on Dom for being so short-sided and for his poor decision making skills, because it was his call. bottomline: what a freak for letting this happen.

(the first word that came to mind was the negligence when I heard about the 100+....most were minor, dehydration..etc. I heard however)
 
I understand everyone's problems with the heat, and I have for the past 3 years, but I have always said it's Texas people, its hot so suck it up. I also think it can be somewhat of a home field advantage and the place seems too sterile when the roof is closed.

I think what we witnessed today was a bad mistake by Mgt in seeing how far they could push the roof open in hot weather issue and they obviously crossed the line. But after today I seriously doubt the roof will ever be open again if the temp is above 80 after the problems I have been hearing and reading about. So lets get the complaining out now, it does serve a purpose, but until it happens again I hope this discussion is closed after a week or so.

However, in October when the temps are pleasant but the sun is on you and you get a little sun burnt, quit crying, it happens at almost every day game in the NFL and college game each weekend. The roof is there to ward off inclimate weather(an argument can easily be made that today was inclimate), but it wouldn't be removable if they wanted the place to be 75 degrees for every game and make you feel like you are in your living room.
 
:soapbox: I did not go inside and I can tell you people were leaving the stadium before the second quarter. I saw "fans" who could hardly walk and shaking their heads saying "pathetic". I asked if they meant the game or having the roof opened. They said both! I saw an ambulance with lights going and people trying to get to their vehicles to get the a/c on.
Someone needs to rethink this. My take is either you have a prepared team on task or you don't. Leaving the roof open doesn't mean a thing and that was proven today.
 
This thread is unbelievable!!! For FOUR years, and all this past week, I have read NOTHING but posts about how the Texans need to keep the roof open!! Emails were even sent to the TEXANS front office to ENCOURAGE them to keep the roof open! Every macho male in a Texans jersey was spouting off about how the heat would WORK TO OUR ADVANTAGE!! HA! Guess who's complaining NOW!!

It was just as hot in year two against the Jags, and last year against the Raiders! Complaints have been sent to the front office for three years! DEMAND a refund!! You won't get it, but, maybe it will get their attention! I intend to complain EVERYDAY for the next two weeks!! I have 5 seats in the Bullpen and they were empty today!! I HATE that!! Not my idea of supporting my team, or the Bullpen! BUT, when the seats are to hot to touch, fans are getting so sick they have to be seen by a medic, and there is NO WATER to buy at $3.50 a bottle, then something is definitely wrong!

I can guarantee you, the week before the Titan game the macho's will be back demanding the roof be left open! Get busy if you don't like it and blast the Texans with complaints! Might work, might not! Next year when they see sales of PSLs in the NEZ dwendling, maybe they will sit up and take notice. Venting on this board will get NOWHERE! Let them know how you really feel.
 
Unfortunately, customer service and fan convenience/comfort will not become a priority until fans quit renewing their season tickets. We're on target for that to be 2006.
 
I don't know if this had anything to do with the heat or it was the poor play of the Texans but when they showed the stands (I think it was mid 4th quarter) some sections were very empty. They were in the sun too. I was thinking people were bailing out early but now I realize it may have been because of the heat.
 
Here is a great idea. Let's open the roof so that we can all sweat our asses off and then let's watch as our home team gets handed the worst beating of the season so far. Is it good when our QB gets more rushing yards than anyone else on the team? Is it good when our receivers attempt to catch a ball but then realize it must be some sort of grenade and drop it? Is it good when the freaking sun is beating down on you and the beer is $7.00 while the water is $3.50. What is the point of season tickets when we are treated like **** and surrounded by more Steelers fans that Texans fans at a home game? In the end, players who drop the ball, freaking fumble the ball, or just can't figure out what the damn ball is should be tossed. I have seen high school teams that can play better. Sheesh, even the great Ray Charles could have seen this slaughter house coming! Here is an idea... Let's leave the roof open so that perhaps we can clear the stands out faster in the next game which helps the parking lot when we are all trying to leave at the end.
 
When I approached the stadium and saw the roof open, I knew then that I would not even approach 115 Q 6 until I saw shade, guessing that would be about 2:15. I bought my hot dog and water and stood behind the rail at 116 prepared to stand there and root for the Texans. There was an almost empty row in front of me, and near the end of the first quarter, I asked the usher if I could sit there until the ticket holder arrived. So I became a squatter. I guess the tickets belonged to brokers because no one ever showed up and more people standing had an opportunity to sit in the shade.

At half time I walked outside where the smokers gather. Although I don't smoke, I just wanted to get a feel for the attitudes about the temperature. It wasn't good. I saw both men and women clothing so wet that it appeared that they poured water on themselves. Met and talked to several people out there and inside the concourse as my Earl Campbell throwback was quite a conversation starter.

After returning, the seats were still available, so I decided to stay, but planned to go to my paid seat when shaded. However, that never happened. Perhaps I could have headed that way about 3:00, but why bother because by then I could have picked any seat in the stadium.

Hopefully it will be cooler by the Titans game, however I will be in Dallas. But, this experience shouldl be fair warning to management that they were fortunate if no one experienced a heat stroke or worse. The decision to leave the roof open today was the most inconsiderate and worst thoughout plan that management ever made. Last year was bad enough to help me make the decision that I made today, and I believe today was the worst in Texan history.

I am not happy to sit in seats that have been paid by others, and felt uncomfortable even though the ticket holders didn't show up. I will go to future games in comfortable clothing and shoes with the understanding that it could be a game that I will be standing up in the food court area if necessary. I might end up tired, but I won't be putting myself in any serious medical situations.

After the game, I drove over to Hank's Ice Cream and enjoyed a nice ice cream cone, where I met other Texan and Steeler fans. THE END
 
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I had to take a picture of the glaring sun that was above the Bullpen.

It was hot. And I take back what I said last week. I was one that wanted the roof open, but just like SheTexan, my pulse skyrocketed in the first half. It was just that hot.

My eyes are sunburned, and I never knew that could happen. My hands started to tingle and swell halfway through the first quarter. It was crazy.
 
I sit in the shade every game in 552 and it was even hot there today. This was clearly the highest the temp has ever been for a Texan game. If they are going to leave the roof open on hot days the following steps should be taken by the Texans.

1. Plenty of water should be made available and for Christ's sake, don't cheat the fans by charging $3.50 for it.
2. A cool mist spray machine or something along those lines should be installed to keep people cooler. Imagine being sprayed with a nice cool mist as you sit in your seat.
3. Extra EMS personel should be available, fans who have to take charge of the situation should be given free game tickets.

*While there are hundreds of stadiums without roofs that get blistered by the sun, Reliant Stadium has absolutely no air flow quadrupling the effects of the heat. 130 degrees in the Bull Pen is enough to do some damage.
 
OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the heat didn't bother the Steelers all that much at all!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Not to mention they were in their black jerseys.
 
I kind of laughed when I read the Texans plan was to make it so uncomfortable for the Steelers by leaving the roof open.....it's hot for the Texans players also!

Maybe I'm slow but isn't the purpose of a retractable roof to make it as comfortable for the fans as possible? To provide an air conditioned environment for them and escape the heat?

If that's so and they don't provide for the comfort on hot days like today they might have saved millions by just leaving the "retractable roof" off stadium plans.
 
I don't get the logic. The Texans are on the field, too. Certainly a white jersey can't make that much of a difference. What are the plans when the Colts and Jags come to town, close the roof and turn the thermostate up to 100?
 
I just wanted to add to this thread that generally speaking, in my experience, I find that the Texans customer service folks tend to be a very responsive group of people. Some people complain that they are too responsive.

You can write with your displeasure, but I suspect that Mr. McNair already knows. He got an eyeful of the remarkably empty seats on the north side of the stadium from his comfort controlled box.

Personally, I believe this roof open in extremely hot weather experiment will go the way of that fight song we had for one game in year 2.

They are still trying to figure out the stadium. Audio noise levels etc. And of course roof open or closed. They catch heck with that decision all the time and they are still trying to get a feel for it.
 
LMBH said:
I don't get the logic. The Texans are on the field, too. Certainly a white jersey can't make that much of a difference.
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I was listening to the radio this morning, and a former player on there said it made a big difference. It must, as all but one outdoor home team wore white today.
 
If they are still experimenting with the roof issue after all this time and don't realize the serious health problems and discomfort caused, (maybe they do now) they need more than the coach giving the final say on open or closed!
When they saw what was happening in the stands by half time ... couldn't they have closed the roof then?
... why the slow/non-response?
:hmmm: ... Seems like I've heard that somewhere else this past week.
 
I feel for you guys, I couldn't handle the heat last year at the Raider game. I had to actually drink water instead of beer the entire first half!
 
roof open is cool when the temps are in the 80s.

temp at game time was 91
temp at half time in the stadium was 96
temp on field at half time was 117
the "felt like" temp in the stadium was 104


I am totally in for roof being opened on clear days, but last year it was closed when temps were below 90. this was a pure play by Coach Capers. it shows you how disconnected he is. The Steelers played a game recently in PA where the game temp was 90. there is no advantage. I knew this before the game. BONEHEADED move Dom.

send your complaints to Bob McNair. close this thread.
 
The bottled water they were selling was hot. You had to buy a cup of ice so total cost was $7.00. I even bought a bottle of water and a cup of ice for a policeman in the corner of the stadium in front of 119. He stood there the whole game. I felt so sorry for him. He was very appreciative for the water and ice.

I have been to the home games since the start and this was by far the hottest and most miserable.

You could not sit back in your seat, it would burn and blister your back!

We had to wait in the concourse for 15 minutes, to cool off before walking out to the parking lot.

Bobby 119C
 
mmontgo said:
send your complaints to Bob McNair. close this thread.
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Why would I close this thread? I sent it to the proper people yesterday. If you want to be heard they are reading you now.
 
My husband and I are PSL owners, season ticket holders since day one!!!!! We have been proud of our stadium and proud to have a football team back in Houston!!!!!!!

But I don’t EVEN want to talk about football right now!!!!

I want to talk about WHY IN THE WORLD!!! Would you subject your loyal fans to the brutality of the Houston Weather!!!! The roof being open on Sunday was your most ridiculous decision ever!!!! It endangered your fans! The brutal heat and humidity had people around us falling out. We LEFT in the first quarter!!!!!! I’ve NEVER left before a game was over in the past!!!!

Certainly our “ROOF” is not for keeping out SNOW!!!!!!!!! It’s for keeping out the horrible heat and humidity of Houston!!!!!!!!!!! IF NOT – WHY GO TO THE EXPENSE OF PUTTING A ROOF ON!!!!!!

The weather forecast was for record highs for this time of the year!!! Did no one think to look at the weather forecast???????????

I can put up with ****** coaching and ****** playing – BUT NOT UTILIZING OUR STADIUM’S BEST ASSETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU CAN’T FIELD A WINNING FOOTBALL TEAM AND PROVIDE US WITH EXCITING FOOTBALL

PLEASE, PLEASE

AT LEAST MAKE US COMFORTABLE AND GIVE US SOME REASON FOR CONTINUING TO BUY THESE SEASON TICKETS AND SHOWING UP FOR EVERY HOME GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Would you like some cheese with that whine?

You could always stay at home where you have a roof and give someone else your tickets. :ok:
 
when you spend a small fortune on PSLs for the privilege of buying season tickets for a team that plays in a stadium with a RETRACTABLE ROOF. It was more than implied up front that the roof was to be used when weather conditions were uncomfortable.

They announced early in the week that the roof was to remain open. The weather forecast was for unseasonably hot temperatures all week. There was plenty of time to buy enough water for the fans, yet they ran out. They never even sold it in the stands, where it was needed the most!

I'm sure Mr. McNair will rectify this. I just don't want this horrible experiment to be forgotten anytime soon.
 
swisher said:
Would you like some cheese with that whine? :ok:
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$1800.00 for PSL's
$1300+ for season tickets---every year
$300.00 parking for red lot---every year

You bet your sweet butt it's whinning and the right to do so! If you don't ever show displeasure, then how in the hell will they know you are not happy.

bobby 119C
 
Don't even need to go into length here. . .

I agree with all here too, (except you Swisher) Total lack of any respect for the fans and our players!

Pam
 
Thanks Vinny!! You know how I feel. I have been complaining for four years now! BTW: This game was no hotter than the Raider game last year, or the Jags game the year before. Regardless of the temp, if fans are so hot they need medical attention, then something is wrong with the plan.

The fans were ineffective yesterday! Remember last year when we caused so many penalities because of the noise? We will never know now if we could have rattled Burgerboy or not! We never got the chance! We will never know if fan support would have ignited a fire under a very obviously flickering flame in our Texans! We will never know if WE THE FANS could have made a difference in yesterdays game! We might still have lost, after all we played against one of the elite teams in the NFL, but, we might have seen a more exciting game, one that was worth the money we paid to see. My five seats in the Bullpen sat empty! That is very sad to me! Thank goodness I had the good sense to go home rather than end up sick, like I did last year and the year before. Someone needs to wake up and realize that WE THE FANS are an important part of the success of this team!
 
:crying: Is it just me or does anyone else out there think the roof should have been closed yesterday? I am a PSL holder and a Texans supporter. I believe everyone associated with the team and the stadium normally work hard to provide an enjoyable visit for all the fans, but not yesterday. Yesterday someone failed miserably in providing a safe, comfortable environment in which to enjoy the game. Leaving the roof open in the oppressive heat was an insult to all the fans that spend a considerable amount of money to attend these games. I wonder if a single person involved in the decision to leave the roof open watched the game in a section that was baking in the sun (I sit in section 322)? I’ve heard the argument that the heat would offer a home-field advantage, but I do not have to state the obvious that no advantage was evident. Of course another home-field advantage is to have thousands of fans screaming for the home-team. That advantage was lost yesterday when folks left early in droves to get out of the heat. I personally held out until early in the 4th quarter before leaving, but now deeply regret staying that long as both my wife and I are now dealing with uncomfortable sunburn today. Reliant stadium was not designed as an open-air stadium. The configuration does to allow for air to circulate well, so no respite is offered from the often-oppressive heat that Houston is prone to. Our next home game is October 9th and I hope it is much cooler, but it could very well be in the 90s and if it is, I hope they will have the roof closed. I already sent an email to ‘fanfeedback@houstontexans.com’ and would encourage all other ticket holders equally outraged to do the same.
 
This had come up last year or the year before after a really hot game. The points I made back then were something like this (keep in mind, I've never been inside Reliant and have only driven by it).

1. Do you really get the feeling you're "outdoors" when the roof is open? I think there's a big difference between a convertible and a car with a sun roof. Reliant has a sunroof. It is not a convertible.

2. With the dimensions of Reliant, I can't see how much of a breeze could come in from the top much less make its way down to the field when the roof is open.

3. Do higher temperatures have as much effect on the opposing team as a closed roof with a raucus fan base generating much more noise because the roof is closed and the sound carries better?

I'm sure the fans that have attended more games than I have (1 would be more games) would know better but that's just how I see it.

If it's raining - close the roof.
If it's above 80 - close the roof (I'm spoiled :) ).
If it's snowing - close the roof.
 
I'm gonna step on some toes by saying this...but I was embarrased to be a TEXAN FAN yesterday. And NOT because of the team. The FANS sound like a bunch of babies. It's too hot...it's too hot, close the roof. And all of the EMPTY ROWS OF SEATS all surrounding me...UNTIL the shade made it to our section. My friend came to his 1st Texan game yesterday (just moved here from Wisconsin) and he couldn't get over the crowds reaction. He's a season ticket holder for the PACKERS and he said he has NEVER seen their fans complain like that for any reason...even when the team was HORRIBLE. This coming from a football fan who sits in BELOW ZERO weather with snow & sleet pelting him the entire time. THIS IS FOOTBALL PEOPLE. NOT BOWLING. If you want air conditioning and "perfect conditions" then maybe you need to get Rockets tickets. You all sound like a bunch of spoiled babies.

A MIST MACHINE...?! Give me a break. Want someone to come rub your feet, too?

Look...it's called "be prepared". I didn't bring my 2 year old nephew because babies/toddlers can't tolerate weather extremes like an adult can. And if you are afraid of passing out from being dehydrated, drink some Pedialyte or pickle juice before the game. You WILL NOT be dehydrated.

And I notice many of those whinning about the roof are the same people who call for Dom Caper's head. I think some people are just looking for reasons to complain.

Bob McNair has an excellent organization with an excellent stadium. He worked dilligently to help us beat LA for the franchise. And all you people can do is find reasons to complain. This is the same attitude that facilitated the OILERS leaving (besides Bud being an *****).

In the words of my friend from Wisconsin "You guys should just be grateful you have a team". :brickwall

I'm out like Chris Palmer's NFL coaching career.
 
You can count me in amongst those that had a problem yesterday. The team lost a lot of the good will built up over the past three seasons. Not only with the roof open with a 100 degree plus heat index, but the team performance. I love to have the roof open as much as possible but yesterday was an exception.

How many people know that to be truly hydrated, you need to start 2-3 days ahead of time? You don't just guzzle two glasses of water before the game and your magically hydrated.

If you knew the roof was open, why not provide more water at the concessions.

I would also like to know how often the team has been practicing outdoors vs. the bubble.

Sorry for being a bit off the cuff. I'm just terribly disappointed with the whole thing Sunday.
 
Sco-tai said:
I'm gonna step on some toes by saying this...but I was embarrased to be a TEXAN FAN yesterday. And NOT because of the team. The FANS sound like a bunch of babies. It's too hot...it's too hot, close the roof.
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Have you even read the comments? People were in need of medical attention. So maybe it's a little more serious than your willing to give credit for.
 
I too prefer to watch the games outdoors regardless of the elements. And if the Texans had built a true open air stadium, I doubt you'd see as much complaining. But Reliant is not an open air stadium when the roof is open.

A big part of the reason McNair has a team is the support he gets from those well over 30 years of age and might have a problem or two healthwise because of the excessive heat. So do you think it would benefit him and his organization to pay attention to what they have to say?

Dropping down that much money to attend a football game only to be concerned about your healt simply because they won't close the roof is absurd. Anything else is unacceptable.
 
Youngstown Colt said:
Have you even read the comments? People were in need of medical attention. So maybe it's a little more serious than your willing to give credit for.
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Despite my hydration, youth, and decent physical shape, I had a few scares where I had to sit down (a few times when I was yelling hard [not for a win, but some some glimmer of hope for the rest of the season]). I got really dizzy and came close to passing out.

We took frequent shade breaks, and bought several waters (no beer, a first for me!).

We decided it was doable (part of the Bullpen). But, if the heat has that affect on healthy 20 somethings, what about the children and the older crowd?!?!

We have a closable roof, use it.
 
SheTexan said:
BTW: This game was no hotter than the Raider game last year, or the Jags game the year before.
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I don't know SheTexan, It was the lack of air movement(flags on goals post not moving), or the humidity. I was not as hot at either of those games as I was Sunday.

bobby 119C :brickwall
 
Reliant Stadium was not built as an open-air stadium. It is absolutely ludicrous to have fans sit for 3 hours in direct sunlight and 100 degree temperature when there is an option to block out the sun by closing the roof. The person that says he is embarrassed by the whining was probably sitting in the shade or maybe not even at the game. If that person was at the game in the direct sun (for the entire game), than he is much better than I to deal with those conditions. The players are better prepared and better protected from the sun and the heat (and of course better paid). Had the stadium been designed as an open-air stadium, the conditions would not have been nearly as brutal, plus there would be no options, so nothing to wonder about. I spent 3+ hours in direct sunlight yesterday and sweated off all my sun-block, so now I have sun-burnt skin to deal with. I can deal with a lot when it is necessary, but it makes no sense to put up with extreme conditions when there is a simple alternative.
 
Sco-tai said:
I'm gonna step on some toes by saying this...but I was embarrased to be a TEXAN FAN yesterday. And NOT because of the team. The FANS sound like a bunch of babies. It's too hot...it's too hot, close the roof. And all of the EMPTY ROWS OF SEATS all surrounding me...UNTIL the shade made it to our section. My friend came to his 1st Texan game yesterday (just moved here from Wisconsin) and he couldn't get over the crowds reaction. He's a season ticket holder for the PACKERS and he said he has NEVER seen their fans complain like that for any reason...even when the team was HORRIBLE. This coming from a football fan who sits in BELOW ZERO weather with snow & sleet pelting him the entire time. THIS IS FOOTBALL PEOPLE. NOT BOWLING. If you want air conditioning and "perfect conditions" then maybe you need to get Rockets tickets. You all sound like a bunch of spoiled babies.
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While I agree with the attitude behind your post (and the fact that you folks do realize that all Green Bay, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philadephia, Cincinatti, New England, New York, and Buffalo fans reading this thread now think we're a bunch of wimps, especially when they play outdoors regardless of weather conditions. idonno: )...[disclaimer: I mean absolutely no disrespect, and I feel for those with medical conditions.]

You have to remember that Houston is a different type of sports fan. We built the first dome stadium because of mosquitoes....and maybe the humidity...but I've always heard mosquitoes-reasoning ever since I was a kid.

So northern fans are more hardcore, for the most part, than Houston fans (we are much more fickle and sensitive to losing, too).

Ah well.

I understand that's just the way it is down here, so I sincerely hope the Texans front office takes notice and keeps the roof closed at 80 degrees+ days and puts the thermostat on 72 inside the stadium.

That, and spray for those pesky mosquitoes! :cool:
 
Sco-tai said:
I'm gonna step on some toes by saying this...but I was embarrased to be a TEXAN FAN yesterday. And NOT because of the team. The FANS sound like a bunch of babies. It's too hot...it's too hot, close the roof. And all of the EMPTY ROWS OF SEATS all surrounding me...UNTIL the shade made it to our section. My friend came to his 1st Texan game yesterday (just moved here from Wisconsin) and he couldn't get over the crowds reaction. He's a season ticket holder for the PACKERS and he said he has NEVER seen their fans complain like that for any reason...even when the team was HORRIBLE. This coming from a football fan who sits in BELOW ZERO weather with snow & sleet pelting him the entire time. THIS IS FOOTBALL PEOPLE. NOT BOWLING. If you want air conditioning and "perfect conditions" then maybe you need to get Rockets tickets. You all sound like a bunch of spoiled babies.

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I can understand what you are saying about other fans. If we had a total open air stadium, then we would have a choice but to suck it up. That's not the case, we have an option of an open or closed stadium. It's not fun when you can't even sit back in you seat for burning and blistering your back, when this could have been avoided.

bobby 119C
 
Personally, I don't give a "care" about what the people up North think. I do care about LMBH's health, and sitting in a situation that has the potential to be deadly, (you do know that people in Texas die yearly from heat related illnesses) has no value in proving what kind of fan a person is.

So far, I haven't been in any type of cold weather that I have not been able to dress for the occasion and weather the storm. In cold weather, you can prepare, in rain, you can get drenched and still have a great time, but heat, you can die even if you have stripped down as far as you can without being charged with public lewdness.

I can take a certain amount of discomfort, which is why I was prepared to stand up in the food court area the entire game if necessary.

BTW, IMO, yesterday's temperature was worse than the two previous years. Even though it was miserable then, it was unbelievable on yesterday the number of people whose clothing looked as though they had just taken a dip in a swimming pool, and the looks on some of the faces that indicated they had some health issues.
 
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