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a confesshion and good news,......

I teach at a school, and there is a middle school kid who has a high IQ. He has problems with communicating because his mind moves faster than he can write or type.

It's hard to understand, because we don't have that problem. But apparently it really exists. He's not dumb, he just has a problem processing and communicating.

Which probably works itself out in other ways: Going through intense feelings of depression and disconnected from normalcy due to the condition.

Communication is the key, and he is figuring that out. Just starting a thread and talking about it (and knowing that we care about him) will boost him. Also GETTING a job, and KEEPING the job, and doing a GOOD job, and having PRIDE in what he does will also boost him. Because when he starts having success and people at his work appreciate him for it, it ought to be a pretty good way to make him desire to go back to school and apply himself there.

However, look at back at OUR experiences in middle school and freshman year of high school. That's not the place to be, if you are "different" from the others. You're going to catch hell ona minute-by-minute basis. because teenagers are cruel and don't care about "community."

It's a pretty sad atmosphere for someone to be in, if they already have coping issues and are different from others.

Do a good job at your job, make them PROUD that they took a chance and hired you. Do not skip work. Do not be late. Act as if this employer is the one who starts you back on the right track. Then use that bit of success and go back to school next year.

And if you ARE sandbagging it, and faking it (as some have suggested) then it will catch up with you some day. And you will have cried wolf, and you will not have anyone to help you or care for you when it's actually needed the most. But I think you're truthful.
 
I teach at a school, and there is a middle school kid who has a high IQ. He has problems with communicating because his mind moves faster than he can write or type.

It's hard to understand, because we don't have that problem. But apparently it really exists. He's not dumb, he just has a problem processing and communicating.

Which probably works itself out in other ways: Going through intense feelings of depression and disconnected from normalcy due to the condition.

Communication is the key, and he is figuring that out. Just starting a thread and talking about it (and knowing that we care about him) will boost him. Also GETTING a job, and KEEPING the job, and doing a GOOD job, and having PRIDE in what he does will also boost him. Because when he starts having success and people at his work appreciate him for it, it ought to be a pretty good way to make him desire to go back to school and apply himself there.

However, look at back at OUR experiences in middle school and freshman year of high school. That's not the place to be, if you are "different" from the others. You're going to catch hell ona minute-by-minute basis. because teenagers are cruel and don't care about "community."

It's a pretty sad atmosphere for someone to be in, if tey already have coping issues and are different from others.

Do a good job at your job, make them PROUD that they took a chance and hired you. Do not skip work. Do not be late. Act as if this employer is the one who starts you back on the right track. Then use that bit of success and go back to school next year.

And if you ARE sandbagging it, and faking it (as some have suggested) then it will catch up with you some day. And you will have cried wolf, and you will not have anyone to help you or care for you when it's actually needed the most. But I think you're truthful.

i so totaly agree with this post i have a very hard time conctraiting but i do have a average iq its like i try to do something but my mind races some times it takes me 3 hours to go to bed because of it ....any how i agree with all you said
 
I teach at a school, and there is a middle school kid who has a high IQ. He has problems with communicating because his mind moves faster than he can write or type.

It's hard to understand, because we don't have that problem. But apparently it really exists. He's not dumb, he just has a problem processing and communicating.

Which probably works itself out in other ways: Going through intense feelings of depression and disconnected from normalcy due to the condition.

Communication is the key, and he is figuring that out. Just starting a thread and talking about it (and knowing that we care about him) will boost him. Also GETTING a job, and KEEPING the job, and doing a GOOD job, and having PRIDE in what he does will also boost him. Because when he starts having success and people at his work appreciate him for it, it ought to be a pretty good way to make him desire to go back to school and apply himself there.

However, look at back at OUR experiences in middle school and freshman year of high school. That's not the place to be, if you are "different" from the others. You're going to catch hell ona minute-by-minute basis. because teenagers are cruel and don't care about "community."

It's a pretty sad atmosphere for someone to be in, if they already have coping issues and are different from others.

Do a good job at your job, make them PROUD that they took a chance and hired you. Do not skip work. Do not be late. Act as if this employer is the one who starts you back on the right track. Then use that bit of success and go back to school next year.

And if you ARE sandbagging it, and faking it (as some have suggested) then it will catch up with you some day. And you will have cried wolf, and you will not have anyone to help you or care for you when it's actually needed the most. But I think you're truthful.
Excellent post!
 
Good luck to you Mr. Slatonisabeast.

Hey, it's a tough cruel world out there. Better to understand that now, because when you are 30 with a job, wife, maybe kids and bills to pay, nobody is going to understand that your Grandma is sick and you don't feel like going to work. Those are the cold hard facts.

Whoever said life is easy is lying. But, it can be very rewarding. Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it. How are you going to react to your situation? Let me give you two very pertinent Anthony Robbins quotes because they apply to you directly. I want you to read and aborb these quotes and think about them carefully as they apply to your life because you are truly at a crossroads.

quote 1 - You are now at a crossroads. This is your opportunity to make the most important decision you will ever make. Forget your past. Who are you now? Who have you decided you really are now? Don't think about who you have been. Who are you now? Who have you decided to become? Make this decision consciously. Make it carefully. Make it powerfully.

And quote 2 - If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten.
 
i so totaly agree with this post i have a very hard time conctraiting but i do have a average iq its like i try to do something but my mind races some times it takes me 3 hours to go to bed because of it ....any how i agree with all you said
ADD/HAD runs in my family. For me, if feel under pressure my mind also races. When talking with someone face to face, I try to have an answer before they are finished talking. At work, when presented with several issues at once, I find my self talking faster & faster & faster. It is very difficult to slow down and as a control, I try to get away from my desk and the problems for a few minutes to get my "snap" and then return. It has to be a conscious effort to slow. My son was the same & began getting in trouble @ middle school. As I worked in child psychology at that time I was given very specific ideas to help him and me. The techniques did help greatly.

I respect you for bringing this to our attention. Do not be ashamed but don't just push it aside. It can be better.
 
i so totaly agree with this post i have a very hard time conctraiting but i do have a average iq its like i try to do something but my mind races some times it takes me 3 hours to go to bed because of it ....any how i agree with all you said

The miltary actually prescribes me ritalin for ADHD. I don't take it because I can't stand the way it slows down my thought process. I will suggest though, that you take up a complicated hobby. I am an avid pool player as well as a poker player. The reason is the complexity of the games. Instead of thinking about 30k things, one thing (all of the shots and possibilities vs counting cards/outs for every player on the table etc etc etc...) at a time... like pool and what's happening next is very relaxing. I am usually most relaxed when I am doing something that forces me to think about just that activity.

Hope that helps. And regardless... get your ASS back in school. I know its hard to concentrate but you will learn valuable coping skills for later in life. From this point on either you can define your life or you can let it define you... no amount of coaching or training can help you in that manner.

Mike

Mike
 
My grandson has ADD. They wanted to prescribe some sort of meds for him also. But we have gone a different direction.

First we have cut down his sugar content - only sugar-free items do we buy for him (and the rest of us when he is over). We check all packages and only get items with 2 gms of sugar or less. If they use sugar alcohol is is half what reg sugar is. 4gm sugar alcohols = 2 grms reg sugar

We have also cut out all red, yellow, blue and green dyes. This on the advice of a neurologist that we know. He stated that sometimes it is food alergies that make people "over-active".

While he is still an active normal 6 year old boy. It really has calmed him down quite a bit. He goes to bed at a resonable hour - 7:30 -8 pm every night without any hassle.

He will even check the packages himself to check for dyes and sugar content.

The sugar free ice cream is pretty good.
 
My grandson has ADD. They wanted to prescribe some sort of meds for him also. But we have gone a different direction.

First we have cut down his sugar content - only sugar-free items do we buy for him (and the rest of us when he is over). We check all packages and only get items with 2 gms of sugar or less. If they use sugar alcohol is is half what reg sugar is. 4gm sugar alcohols = 2 grms reg sugar

We have also cut out all red, yellow, blue and green dyes. This on the advice of a neurologist that we know. He stated that sometimes it is food alergies that make people "over-active".

While he is still an active normal 6 year old boy. It really has calmed him down quite a bit. He goes to bed at a resonable hour - 7:30 -8 pm every night without any hassle.

He will even check the packages himself to check for dyes and sugar content.

The sugar free ice cream is pretty good.

Another thing that is good is caffeine. I drink a ton of tea a day just to get my caffeine, I know it sounds crazy but its a stimulant and basically it has the opposite effect for me that it does of most people. If I don't get my caffeine I'm a mess, not in an addicted way (though I am) but in a jumping all over the walls crazy kind of way. It makes no sense but this is about a 10 year experiment I've got going. I gave that advise to a coworker and after a little messing with what works they get a cokes worth of caffeine with every meal and he's off his meds and doing great.

They don't know what actually causes ADHD but they do know that stimulants help reduce the symptoms. For an alternative look into ADHD look here:
http://borntoexplore.org/evolve.htm


Mike
 
Another thing that is good is caffeine. I drink a ton of tea a day just to get my caffeine, I know it sounds crazy but its a stimulant and basically it has the opposite effect for me that it does of most people. If I don't get my caffeine I'm a mess, not in an addicted way (though I am) but in a jumping all over the walls crazy kind of way. It makes no sense but this is about a 10 year experiment I've got going. I gave that advise to a coworker and after a little messing with what works they get a cokes worth of caffeine with every meal and he's off his meds and doing great.

They don't know what actually causes ADHD but they do know that stimulants help reduce the symptoms. For an alternative look into ADHD look here:
http://borntoexplore.org/evolve.htm


Mike

Yes - forgot the caffeine. It does have the opposite effect on ADHD.
 
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