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2024 TRAINING CAMP DISCUSSION THREAD
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Stupid justification comment when going after one's own teammate like that:
Texans defensive backs coach Dino Vasso spoke after practice with reporters, talking about Stingley’s tenacity.
"He’s a competitive kid," he said, via the Houston Chronicle. "He relishes the one-on-one moment, and I think that’s the biggest thing for a corner. You can’t teach that as a coach, and he has that inherently, so that’s a good trait to have."
Texans defensive backs coach Dino Vasso spoke after practice with reporters, talking about Stingley’s tenacity.
"He’s a competitive kid," he said, via the Houston Chronicle. "He relishes the one-on-one moment, and I think that’s the biggest thing for a corner. You can’t teach that as a coach, and he has that inherently, so that’s a good trait to have."
Texansballer74
The Marine
Because that’s their jobs. They reported the scuffle down there in Dallas a year or two ago.
badboy
Hall of Fame
As described, Ward should have gotten his butt chewed by Ryans.
badboy
Hall of Fame
This wasn't that. Punk ass moves by Ward and Stingley. I'm not impressed.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Which I think is fine and doesn't make him uncuttable next season, which is essentially my point.What you appear to be overlooking, if cut after 2024 season with a designated post June 1st cut,
2025 dead ~9 m with $14 .2 m savings but ALL remaining GTD money escalates into 2026. Approx $12.2 million dead cap.
I discussed this in a thread somewhere during 2023 season. If Titus Howard cannot be a quality starter; we can use the cap space later this season or in 2025 which would be a huge advantage.
I find the spotrac information easier to read than over the cap.
Just click on year of contract you wish to move a player.
Tytus Howard | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com
Tytus Howard signed a 3 year, $56,000,000 contract with the Houston Texans, including $18,000,000 signing bonus, $36,002,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $18,666,667. In 2025, Howard will earn a base salary of $15,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $23,045,588 and a dead cap...www.spotrac.com
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Because everyone is football starved and there's barely anything football related to discuss.
They love trying to act like practice scraps are more than what they are.
Mangler
Toro de España
Them actually celebrating Stingley’s cheap shot on Schultz doesn’t surprise me. Especially after all the ridiculous, sick, and flat out disgusting s*** that has taken place in society the past 3-4 years. Had he done that to say…Diggs, Collins, Dell, or Mixon the coaching staff would’ve been singing ima different tune. Stingley literally charged at Schultz while his back was towards him. That’s a p**** move!
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Interteam practice physical altercations may show "competitiveness."
Intrateam practice physical altercations are foolish if not brainless. There is nothing in this scenario that can justify potential serious injury to your own players.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Much ado about nothing. One week in, guys get tired of the same guys and tempers flare. Back in the day there were fights and scuffles near daily during two a days. It’s practically like the pillsbury dough boy out there now compared to the old school stuff we had 3 or 4 decades ago. As long as it’s not out of hand..move on. Sting showing some juice is a good thing - he just needs to redirect it a little bit. I’m sure coach talked to him. Relax and enjoy the show!
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Back in the day, with very long 2-a-days (and many times more which we don't talk about), teams in TC only had their own teammates to direct their frustrations against.
Joint practices did not come to be until 13 years ago. But since then, their numbers have been quickly on the rise. This year only the Chiefs and Raiders have declined to schedule them. To try to compare frustration levels and intolerance back in the day and their almost unlimited work level...............with today's "Pillsbury dough boy" regimen................there is no excuse for not being able to contain oneself from trying to hurt one's own teammate, in lieu of waiting to "open up" against a joint practice or preseason game opponent. Historically there have been enough TC injuries, without unnecessarily adding to those numbers.
Next time Stingley or any other Texans player finds need to let out his frustration, here's a safer yet equally effective outlet.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
This is called The Thorn Technique.Back in the day, with very long 2-a-days (and many times more which we don't talk about), teams in TC only had their own teammates to direct their frustrations against.
Joint practices did not come to be until 13 years ago. But since then, their numbers have been quickly on the rise. This year only the Chiefs and Raiders have declined to schedule them. To try to compare frustration levels and intolerance back in the day and their almost unlimited work level...............with today's "Pillsbury dough boy" regimen................there is no excuse for not being able to contain oneself from trying to hurt one's own teammate, in lieu of waiting to "open up" against a joint practice or preseason game opponent. Historically there have been enough TC injuries, without unnecessarily adding to those numbers.
Next time Stingley or any other Texans player finds need to let out his frustration, here's a safer yet equally effective outlet.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Waiting for that next joint to be passed around
badboy
Hall of Fame
Do I have to slap myself first?
And then I got high.
Seriously though, how many players have gotten hurt in these fights?
zshawn10
All Pro
Houston Texans 2024 Training Camp Report, Practice No. 6
The sixth practice for the Houston Texans' 2024 training camp took place on Wednesday morning, and it looked and felt a whole lot like the practice the day before. Like Tuesday, the Texans were in full pads, and the fans filled all the bleacher seats. Like Tuesday, there was some...
The sixth practice for the Houston Texans' 2024 training camp took place on Wednesday morning, and it looked and felt a whole lot like the practice the day before. Like Tuesday, the Texans were in full pads, and the fans filled all the bleacher seats. Like Tuesday, there was some heavy rain prior to practice, but the rain held off once 9 a.m. rolled around, and the team practiced amidst very moderate temperatures.
The offense had its moments, the defense had its moments, the highlights of which we will get to in a moment, but the big spectacle out at camp on Wednesday — our first skirmish of the preseason! Texan on Texan violence! Let's start there....
Tempers boil over
WIth a team that packs this much energy, with this many alpha males on a football field at the same time, it was bound to happen — on Wednesday, we got our first fight of the 2024 Texans training camp. It stemmed from a Stefon Diggs catch and run, where safety Jimmie Ward brought Diggs to the ground, which is a no-no in training camp. Some moderate hitting is okay, that's why there are pads on, but going to the ground augments the chances of injury exponentially. So the offense and defense pushed and shoved in a 20-headed scrum for about a minute. Once the two sides separated, then CB Derek Stingley went back in and gave TE Dalton Schultz a cheap shot from behind. It was quite the spectacle, and if I had to guess, other than the chances that Schultz could have been hurt by Stingley's negligence, DeMeco Ryans probably loved it! He enjoys appropriate chippy-ness!
This is about as good as I can do for video of the skirmish, as the media is not allowed to film anything after the first 20 minutes or so of practice. So we all rely on fan video!
TRANINING CAMP FIGHT
Texans camp today was reportedly very
intense, starting with Stefon Diggs getting hit hard by Jimmie Ward when Dalton Schultz got involved. pic.twitter.com/tzWgDOGx2c
— Around The NFL (@AroundNFL23) July 24, 2024
Nick Caserio speaks on SportsRadio 610
The Texans EVP and General Manager, who's heading into his fourth season in that role, joined me and Seth Payne on SportsRadio 610. You can listen to the entire interview on our station's website, but here are a few highlights, with thanks to Texans content aggregator Houston Stressans for the assist:
Nick Caserio on Dameon Pierce:
“He was dealing with more that maybe people realize” in regards to last season
Highlights how he’s improved thus far pic.twitter.com/jDBqYtt7v5
— Houston Stressans (@TexansCommenter) July 24, 2024
Nick Caserio on Blake Fisher pic.twitter.com/MZBS8u5dDH
— Houston Stressans (@TexansCommenter) July 24, 2024
Awesome long-winded answer from Caserio on Kenyon Green: pic.twitter.com/2IrDPsthS9
— Houston Stressans (@TexansCommenter) July 24, 2024
* Out from practice for a third straight day was RB Joe Mixon. This is allowing for some quality work for Dameon Pierce and the other young running backs, but I'd like to see Mixon out there. Also, not practicing was John Metchie (second straight day), Christian Harris (yet to practice this camp), and Laremy Tunsil (yet to practice, but working out on the side).
* The offense was a little inconsistent, but the good stuff was, man oh man, REALLY good. Nico Collins had a catch and run along the left sideline, where he shook a defender and likely would have gone for another 15 to 20 yards in a regular season game. Then, later in practice, C.J. Stroud threw an absolute drop in the bucket for about a 65 yard bomb for a touchdown to Collins. A reminder that Stroud is an elite arm talent.
* The offense worked on quite a bit in the run game, and one of the standouts was rookie RB Jahwar Jordan, the sixth round pick out of Louisville. He had a nice run up the middle for a big gain, and a couple nice outside stretch runs. I wouldn't mind seeing him mixed in higher up the depth chart for a few plays, especially with Mixon out.
* The play of the practice was a Derek Stingley interception of a Stroud deep ball to Tank Dell, where Dell and Stingley both went up for the ball, and Stingley wrestled it away, but before Dell fought with him on the ground for the ball for literally 20 to 30 seconds. You could see Caserio wanting to get in and break things up before two of his best (and most oft injured players last season) injured each other.
* Aside from those highlight plays, Will Anderson had a pass break up, Henry To'o To'o had a tackle for loss on a screen pass, Calen Bullock was showing up once again at safety, and Jeff Okudah kind of whacked veteran WR Robert Woods on a pass break up, a little too hard for a camp practice. In other words, it was lively out there on Wednesday.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Only to remember the first one
Porky
Hall of Fame
I’m hearing juice around Jacob Phillips as well. Lance has him as more of a backup type, and I think that suits him on this team. I had him a longshot…but he may have a legit shot. His biggest issue has been health. He’s played pretty well when healthy. Sort of like Cashman.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Last year's TC, I remember Commanders CB Danny Johnson tore his rotator cuff in a fight.
Jets LB I.K. Enemkpali broke Jets QB Geno Smith's jaw.
Raiders Romanowski then shattered TE Marcus Williams' left eye-socket with a punch, also causing other serious injuries including brain damage................never being able to play again.
Sure there have been others that I can't remember or that I don't know of.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Matt Eberflus will decide “soon” if Caleb Williams will play in Hall of Fame game
By Myles Simmons
Published July 25, 2024 02:36 PM
By Myles Simmons
Published July 25, 2024 02:36 PM
Texansballer74
The Marine
People overreacting to a little scrapping as usual. Especially when it’s , never mind.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Very rarely are these guys hurt in camp fights and if they are hurt it rarely affects their status for the season.
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
Phillips is a talented LB “when healthy”. But he’s been more injury prone than even Cashman thus far in his career. He’ll be a solid LB3 or even a high end depth LB so long as he’s healthy.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
badboy
Hall of Fame
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MeatBear77
Rookie
I'm going to this one bro hope Gayleb plays I put 3k on him getting 3+ snaps
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
He’s a similar player to Devin Singletary. Not sure he’ll be able to make the active roster here but i’m excited to see him this preseason.
Mangler
Toro de España
Hopefully our defense becomes the new Legion of Boom! I started saving $150/week (since last month) for Super Bowl tickets and won’t touch the account until the Toros make it. I should be able to afford decent seats by then!
Hell, if I end up with a good amount of cash by then and wooz out I’ll just throw a badass party here at my ranch with catering and hire a great bartender I know to make some cocktails (whiskey sours, old fashioned, Paloma’s, etc…)
Hell, if I end up with a good amount of cash by then and wooz out I’ll just throw a badass party here at my ranch with catering and hire a great bartender I know to make some cocktails (whiskey sours, old fashioned, Paloma’s, etc…)
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Keep in mind that muscle weighs 20% more than fat due to density differences. So losing weight? I have significant questions regarding weight loss of 11 pounds since his successful rookie year is due to loss of fat and gain of muscle mass.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
pokerfaceSATX
All in
Good interview with Slowik
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I'm 42 and I can still kick young people's asses.. At 37 he should just have more tricks for the young idiots. 37 is a nice age where athletic ability and "old man strength" meet
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Ryans disagrees:
Texans' DeMeco Ryans says he 'doesn't want to see it' following skirmish among players at camp
"I don't want it, and I don't like it. It's sloppy and I think it's not representative of who we are as a team and as an organization," DeMeco Ryans said after warning that fights are not of Super Bowl contending teams.
abc13.com
Finally, Demeco addresses.
Texansballer74
The Marine
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
It appears practicing against these high end WRs have given Lassiter some ball skills!
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
Yep, DeMeco also mentioned it reminded him of the Jets game with the weather yesterday. Good opportunity for the offense to tighten things up playing in the rain this week.