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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

banned1976 said:
If they don't draft Stroud, Young or Anderson at #2, they overthought the draft. Picking any one of those three would at least give me a little reassurance that they won't screw up the rest of the draft. If they draft anyone else at #2 next Thursday, I'm immediately turning the TV off and going to bed. I don't even want to see who they draft at #12.
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if they pick a QB not named Stroud at 2 after Bryce goes one, I am done as well.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
An actual agent would have told him to cut that s*it out and not victim blame. He’s a POS.
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A bad agent would have done that.

A good agent would have done what Mulugheta did.

I don’t like him, but the guy played the game and got Watson paid by the dumbest mf’er to own a NFL team.
 
Hervoyel said:
I just have a hard time fearing one of those "great" Ohio State QB's. The dude played in a powerhouse team wrapped in a protective blanket of OL "bubble wrap" and to me that's the single biggest knock I can think of on either of them (Young or Stroud). they were escorted to victory by depth most of their opponents could only dream of having. Google "Great Ohio State QB's in the NFL" or "Great Alabama QB's in the NFL" and bask in the glory of a bunch of guys who amounted to nothing (past Bart Starr, Joe Namath, and Ken Stabler). Sure, sometimes one works out but it's just not that common. More often they were carried to success instead of the other way around.
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I don't watch college football, but as a Texans fan I know that the one QB prospect that "sometimes one works" will be the one the Texans pass and falls to the Colts. lol

And I'd rather take a chance with a rookie QB than Davis Mills or Case Keenum. If either of these guys are the Texans starting QB in 2023, I think all the hope I had for DeMeco will just blow away like smoke in the wind.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
All of David Mulugheta's players chimed in with the same coordinated script attacking Brady Quinn. If anyone bothers to listen to the entire Brady Quinn podcast, it is pretty evident that he was only and strongly complementary of CJ Stroud. He just as an aside mentioned that he had heard the criticism of Stroud, but distinctly questioned it's validity. The Mulugheta machine busy at work.
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Yep. I guess David M. is going to call the Columbus Dispatch liars when they wrote this article last year.

www.dispatch.com

Buckeyes star quarterback C.J. Stroud to work Manning Passing Academy in 2022

Ohio State football QB C.J. Stroud is one of 46 college football quarterbacks who will serve as counselors at the Manning Passing Academy.
www.dispatch.com
 
djohn2oo8 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1648878447215640576

Two things here. Ryan Clark is a liar and is doing the spin of David M. Stroud was on the roster camp list so he had committed. And then didn’t show up.

Number 2, “he wasn’t paid to go” is the Mulugheta defense. Keep Stroud the hell away from Kirby Drive.
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I guess RG3 is lying also because he said the same about Brady Quinn? RG3 isn't an athletes 1st client either. Could it be Quinn has wrong or false information? I get it though, the sourness still aimed at Watson.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Because one team was stupid enough to do it doesn’t make him a good agent. Especially if teams eventually refuse to deal with you.
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What does it make him? By the way, athletes 1st is representing Young on the marketing side. Agents are supposed to get their clients paid the most. If you have an agent not doing that, you don't have the right agent. Might as well get used to it because those guys at Athletes 1st have a growing roster of blue chip players at coaches.
 
zshawn10 said:
I think Anderson and Wilson are not bad but the team desperately needs a QB and if you don't take Stroud, the Titans or Colts could land him
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Would be the most Texans thing ever for them to pass on Stroud only for him to land in Tennessee and make Houston's life hell 2 games a year.

Guess we will find out.
 
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zshawn10 said:
I know they aren't all in on Stroud, but what's their other options; Mills? Perry? Keenum? Lance? Who knows when you get another opportunity again to draft in the top 4?
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Everyone screaming next year is fooling themselves about a qb. If the Texans would've went into this thing with a low milage vet like Jameis, I wouldn't have really liked it, but would understand it. You can't get me to buy into not drafting a qb high and rolling with Keenum and Mills. I don't care how many picks you offer a team, there isn't enough if there is a franchise qb in the draft. If Williams and Maye are superior to these top 2, which I have my doubts, the only way you can trade up 7 or 8 spots is if a team with an existing young qb gets hurt and bottoms out. If the Texans finish with one of the worse records in the nfl next season no matter who the qb is, I'm going to have serious questions about Ryans as a head coach.
 
JB said:
If they're not in love with a QB there is no way they should take him at 2. That is the quickest way to destroy your franchise outside of having OB as GM
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yea I get that and if you look at the QBs drafted at 2, it's awful lol. Ok so Anderson or Tyree at 2; which one to go with? Anderson is more successful but Tyree is a better scheme fit for the team. What if you draft the wrong one?
 
Double Barrel said:
I don't watch college football, but as a Texans fan I know that the one QB prospect that "sometimes one works" will be the one the Texans pass and falls to the Colts. lol

And I'd rather take a chance with a rookie QB than Davis Mills or Case Keenum. If either of these guys are the Texans starting QB in 2023, I think all the hope I had for DeMeco will just blow away like smoke in the wind.
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If we're starting the season with one of them but there's a guy behind him who is going to be the starter at some point in the season I'm fine with that. If they are depending on one of them to develop (Mills) or develop some more (Keenum) that's going to be rather a long wait. In that case I'd only really be patient there if they experience near instant results and/or make it clear in the draft that they got a defense-first mindset and fully intend to come back in 2024 to get the QB. Still wouldn't be happy with it though.
 
zshawn10 said:
yea I get that and if you look at the QBs drafted at 2, it's awful lol. Ok so Anderson or Tyree at 2; which one to go with? Anderson is more successful but Tyree is a better scheme fit for the team. What if you draft the wrong one?
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If they don't go with one of the top 3, they should be aiming to trade back.
My money is on Stroud and I am on board.:clap::gotexans1
 
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leebigeztx said:
So if he was throwing it away and Harrison tracked it and got blown up, how is that his fault especially since Harrison stepped out of bounds?
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It's his fault because under pressure he threw an airball pass falling backward off of his left leg. Because of his awkward throwing position, he couldn't get any zip on the ball or enough strength to throw the ball out of bounds.

leebigeztx said:
www.sports-reference.com

2019 LSU Fighting Tigers Roster | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

2019 LSU Fighting Tigers Roster
www.sports-reference.com www.sports-reference.com
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I'm not sure why you're fascinated with Burrow and LSU unless you're trying to make an argument that Stroud is better than Burrow. That I disagree with and is a bet I would happily make.

You can either believe what your eyes and ears are telling you or become infatuated with the player and make excuses for his poor play.
 
zshawn10 said:
I know they aren't all in on Stroud, but what's their other options; Mills? Perry? Keenum? Lance? Who knows when you get another opportunity again to draft in the top 4?
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But it is not only where you draft but how good is he. That's the conundrum. If Texans think Stroud is the guy, we have to trust that.
 
leebigeztx said:
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Everyone screaming next year is fooling themselves about a qb. If the Texans would've wenuaingt into this thing with a low milage vet like Jameis, I wouldn't have really liked it, but would understand it. You can't get me to buy into not drafting a qb high and rolling with Keenum and Mills. I don't care how many picks you offer a team, there isn't enough if there is a franchise qb in the draft. If Williams and Maye are superior to these top 2, which I have my doubts, the only way you can trade up 7 or 8 spots is if a team with an existing young qb gets hurt and bottoms out. If the Texans finish with one of the worse records in the nfl next season no matter who the qb is, I'm going to have serious questions about Ryans as a head coach.
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Using your words, if Stroud is a franchise QB , there isn't enough first round picks.. so we should get a tremendous couple of offers from teams that all acknowledge do not have said franchise.


Whether he make the decision we want, keeps us talking.
 
Texian said:
It's his fault because under pressure he threw an airball pass falling backward off of his left leg. Because of his awkward throwing position, he couldn't get any zip on the ball or enough strength to throw the ball out of bounds.


I'm not sure why you're fascinated with Burrow and LSU unless you're trying to make an argument that Stroud is better than Burrow. That I disagree with and is a bet I would happily make.

You can either believe what your eyes and ears are telling you or become infatuated with the player and make excuses for his poor play.
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Would it surprise you if HOU just went 0-17/1-16 and just drafted Williams next year? Ryan’s isn’t going anywhere on a 6 year deal…
 
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djohn2oo8 said:
Because one team was stupid enough to do it doesn’t make him a good agent. Especially if teams eventually refuse to deal with you.
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What made him a good agent is he went the length to get his player paid and playing again with a new team. He did that.

You have to able to separate your emotions to see the reality of the situation.

I hate what happened and his role. But he got results. End of story.
 
I can understand Nick disappointing me by not drafting players i want yet i cannot understand him messing up this draft; too many good players and too many positional holes.
 
badboy said:
I can understand Nick disappointing me by not drafting players i want yet i cannot understand him messing up this draft; too many good players and too many positional holes.
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Do you think they will fudge it up so bad they will be able to find 12 busts?
 
Double Barrel said:
Part of me wonders if the smear is to get him passed by the Texans. He might not want to play here.

The defenders are coming out so he doesn't drop too far. They just need to get past 2. lol
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Wouldn’t it be easier just to tell them during the visit?

“prepare for a hold out if you select me.”

I can’t imagine the Texans drafting him with the #2 if he even hinted.

I can see the Texans starting a smear campaign because of it.
 
TexansBull said:
What made him a good agent is he went the length to get his player paid and playing again with a new team. He did that.

You have to able to separate your emotions to see the reality of the situation.

I hate what happened and his role. But he got results. End of story.
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Quoted for truth and the lesson to be learned is to never put yourself in position to have to deal with this crap again. He's great for his clients, but you cant win a championship with his guys as your leaders. Winning championships isn't the most important thing to DM or his clients.
 
Double Barrel said:
I don't watch college football, but as a Texans fan I know that the one QB prospect that "sometimes one works" will be the one the Texans pass and falls to the Colts. lol

And I'd rather take a chance with a rookie QB than Davis Mills or Case Keenum. If either of these guys are the Texans starting QB in 2023, I think all the hope I had for DeMeco will just blow away like smoke in the wind.
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I know this team ain’t ready for a QB.
this is an expansion team. I’d be upset if they start with a QB.
 
zshawn10 said:
yea I get that and if you look at the QBs drafted at 2, it's awful lol. Ok so Anderson or Tyree at 2; which one to go with? Anderson is more successful but Tyree is a better scheme fit for the team. What if you draft the wrong one?
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Neither would be a bad choice imo. I'll trust DeMeco in that
 
Hervoyel said:
If we're starting the season with one of them but there's a guy behind him who is going to be the starter at some point in the season I'm fine with that. If they are depending on one of them to develop (Mills) or develop some more (Keenum) that's going to be rather a long wait. In that case I'd only really be patient there if they experience near instant results and/or make it clear in the draft that they got a defense-first mindset and fully intend to come back in 2024 to get the QB. Still wouldn't be happy with it though.
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I’m starting whichever knows how to read NFL defenses, how to call the play in the huddle, & make the calls at the line.

For me, it’s not about developing a QB. It’s building a foundation for our future QB.
 
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