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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

The only reason why old buddy demanded a trade because the preacher man was all up in his off the field business. Old buddy would still be here if that trash wouldn’t have went down.
The Texans has moved on from that crazy stuff and the culture should be much better. Therefore, they’ll do business with Mulughutta and his firm again. And if they were to draft CJ, and if balls out. They will not have a problem paying him the big bucks.
Incorrect. He demanded a trade for a few reasons, one being Cal wouldn’t back him when it came to the lawsuits.
 
Agree! With the constant media rumor mill spinning and their click bait approach, this draft season has been even more annoying and boring than usual.


I disagree. Obrien followed by 2 lame duck deadbeat coaches? This is the first time in a bit I've taken interest. Just me.
 
Zerlein seems to be finding ways of hedging his bets.

I saw a recent tweet where he stated "No inside information" on the content of his mock(s).
It's all just opinion .... and yes, he's (and the rest of the draftnicks) are hedging.

Really, when has any of the mocksters been remotely close to reality on draft day? Even Kiper is wrong on half or more of the first round and everything after but he's turned that into a multi-million dollar payday.
 
The only reason why old buddy demanded a trade because the preacher man was all up in his off the field business. Old buddy would still be here if that trash wouldn’t have went down.
The Texans has moved on from that crazy stuff and the culture should be much better. Therefore, they’ll do business with Mulughutta and his firm again. And if they were to draft CJ, and he balls out. They will not have a problem paying him the big bucks.

Watson is responsible for his own actions and what ended up happening. It wasn’t the preachers fault but his own.

How it all played and the different roles people played wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t a perv.

The fact that he is still playing is nothing short of ridiculous.

Mulugheta has created a mob/cult for the players he has signed. They all came out for Brady Quinn. It will be interesting how that plays out and if teams avoid him.
 
Watson is responsible for his own actions and what ended up happening. It wasn’t the preachers fault but his own.

How it all played and the different roles people played wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t a perv.

The fact that he is still playing is nothing short of ridiculous.

Mulugheta has created a mob/cult for the players he has signed. They all came out for Brady Quinn. It will be interesting how that plays out and if teams avoid him.


Probably I missed a headline? What does Brady q have to do with it?
 
No, you draft any QB you fall in love with. But you don't draft them high unless you do fall in love with them


That's exactly precisely and mostly what I was thinking.
 
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Report: Anonymous GM says 'there's a lot of bad blood' between Texans, CJ Stroud's agent

To an anonymous GM and a scout, that relationship is absolutely playing a role in their evaluation of Stroud. If not for that ‘elephant in the room’, the Ohio State quarterback would be the selection. Instead, it has become a point of contention as Houston’s owner isn’t certain he wants to do business that way again.

“There’s a lot of bad blood there,” the GM said in the article. “I don’t think (Cal) McNair could stomach having Mulugheta’s next top quarterback be the next face of his franchise. I think that’s a non-starter there.”

“If Stroud has a different agent? He is the second overall pick,” the well-connected agent added.

If this is the case, which I highly doubt, the Texans will never have top tier talent. If they're declining to deal with that agency, might as well sell the team. Look at the roster of players and who potentially wouldn't deal with the Texans.
 
I saw a recent tweet where he stated "No inside information" on the content of his mock(s).
It's all just opinion .... and yes, he's (and the rest of the draftnicks) are hedging.

Really, when has any of the mocksters been remotely close to reality on draft day? Even Kiper is wrong on half or more of the first round and everything after but he's turned that into a multi-million dollar payday.

unfair to Mel but...

Joel > Mel
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I hope this is the case. Based on how free agency played out pass rushers and QB were addressed in a manner that suggests that these two were the priority in the draft. These are the best combination of productive players, priority positions, and current team need.
If they don't take a qb, the value to move out of that spot goes through the roof potentially. If all the action is at 3 because the Cardinals have their qb, what kind of action the Texans could have 1 spot earlier?
 
If they don't take a qb, the value to move out of that spot goes through the roof potentially. If all the action is at 3 because the Cardinals have their qb, what kind of action the Texans could have 1 spot earlier?


Please clarify.
 
If this is the case, which I highly doubt, the Texans will never have top tier talent. If they're declining to deal with that agency, might as well sell the team. Look at the roster of players and who potentially wouldn't deal with the Texans.
There is a difference between the agency and one of it's agents. I think all but maybe SteelB recognize that.
 
The year they traded Tunsil to the Texans and the year before Burrow
For a start
The Dolphins had
Ryan Fitzpatrick
DeVante Parker
Kalen Ballage
Kenyon Drake
Samaje Perine
Mike Gesicki
Taco Charlton
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Xavien Howard
Robert Nkemdiche
Christian Wilkins
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The Bengals had:
Andy Dalton
Joe Mixon
Tyler Boyd
John Ross
CJ Uzomah
Andre Smith
Geno Atkins
Carlos Dunlap
Sam Hubbard
Germaine Pratt
William Jackson III
Jesse Bates III
Giovani Bernard
Tyler Eifert
Dre Kirkpatrick
Hardy Nickerson
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That a good enough start for you?
 
For a start
The Dolphins had
Ryan Fitzpatrick
DeVante Parker
Kalen Ballage
Kenyon Drake
Samaje Perine
Mike Gesicki
Taco Charlton
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Xavien Howard
Robert Nkemdiche
Christian Wilkins
________________________________________________________
The Bengals had:
Andy Dalton
Joe Mixon
Tyler Boyd
John Ross
CJ Uzomah
Andre Smith
Geno Atkins
Carlos Dunlap
Sam Hubbard
Germaine Pratt
William Jackson III
Jesse Bates III
Giovani Bernard
Tyler Eifert
Dre Kirkpatrick
Hardy Nickerson
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That a good enough start for you?

 
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Please clarify.
If they pass, the teams wanting a qb is going to the Cardinals spot at 3. If the Texans are indeed going to pass a qb at 2 for qb, then they can move that pick for draft compensation. Qbs always move the draft. The colts or any if those other teams aren't moving up for a dB or de, they're coming up for a qb. Just like Chicago dropped out to move down because Carolina wanted a qb. They didn't move up for a rb, de, or dt, they're drafting a qb
 

We were talking personnel not stats and it was the 2019 Bengals the year before Burrow but the Texans stats were just as bad as either of those

 
We were talking personnel not stats and it was the 2019 Bengals the year before Burrow but the Texans stats were just as bad as either of those

Flores was hired in 2019 and traded both of his 2 best players in Tunsil and Minkha and they went 5-11. Zach Taylor was hired in 2019, after a terrible year, they drafted Burrow. How good is your roster when you win 2 less games than David Culley?
 
Flores was hired in 2019 and traded both of his 2 best players in Tunsil and Minkha and they went 5-11. Zach Taylor was hired in 2019, after a terrible year, they drafted Burrow. How good is your roster when you win 2 less games than David Culley?
Flores traded Tunsil and Minkha, but he still had Xavien Howard and Ryan Fitzpatrick was much better than Davis Mills. Bengals played in the AFC North vs Houston in the AFC South and still had better stats
 
No, his rookie year was 2020
Yep, the year before Burrow they won 2 games. 2 less than the Culley led Texans squad. Burrow gets drafted but gets hurt and they win 4 games. Next year the get chase and win 10 games. My whole point is it doesn't take 5 years to rebuild no matter how bad your team is. When you waste time, it only prolongs the plan. Dolphins traded a 25 yr old all pro safety and a 25 yr old probowl LT and won 10 games the following year with Fitzpatrick at qb. They also traded Kenyon Drake who played well in Arizona.
 
Yep, the year before Burrow they won 2 games. 2 less than the Culley led Texans squad. Burrow gets drafted but gets hurt and they win 4 games. Next year the get chase and win 10 games. My whole point is it doesn't take 5 years to rebuild no matter how bad your team is. When you waste time, it only prolongs the plan. Dolphins traded a 25 yr old all pro safety and a 25 yr old probowl LT and won 10 games the following year with Fitzpatrick at qb. They also traded Kenyon Drake who played well in Arizona.
Conversation started with your claim that the talent pool of the Dolphins and Bengals was just as bad as the Texans... and not even talking about the cap hell and bad contracts the Texans were saddled with. It hasn't been 5 years

Tunsil didn't make pro bowl until 2022
 
Flores was hired in 2019 and traded both of his 2 best players in Tunsil and Minkha and they went 5-11. Zach Taylor was hired in 2019, after a terrible year, they drafted Burrow. How good is your roster when you win 2 less games than David Culley?
Culley wasn't as bad of a HC as some on here make him out to be . Lovie on the other hand was really bad.
 
Yep, the year before Burrow they won 2 games. 2 less than the Culley led Texans squad. Burrow gets drafted but gets hurt and they win 4 games. Next year the get chase and win 10 games. My whole point is it doesn't take 5 years to rebuild no matter how bad your team is. When you waste time, it only prolongs the plan. Dolphins traded a 25 yr old all pro safety and a 25 yr old probowl LT and won 10 games the following year with Fitzpatrick at qb. They also traded Kenyon Drake who played well in Arizona.
If you have the ability to draft Burrow and then finish bad enough again to draft Chase, then you're correct. All you need is for a true franchise QB to be available, then have him blowout his ACL so you can draft the best WR in football, who your franchise QB just happened to have a connection with in college.

That's pretty easy to do.
 
If you have the ability to draft Burrow and then finish bad enough again to draft Chase, then you're correct. All you need is for a true franchise QB to be available, then have him blowout his ACL so you can draft the best WR in football, who your franchise QB just happened to have a connection with in college.

That's pretty easy to do.
Not to mention getting one of the top WR's in the second round plus getting your pro bowl WR back from injury the same year you draft your franchise QB
 
Call me very skeptical re. the "leaked" scores.


It’s so funny how rating a QB becomes less and less about what they’ve accomplished on the “field of play” and what they accomplished at the Combine, their Pro Day, and a new S2 Test. If a team wants to certainly take it up the arse…..just throw out all “field of play” scouting and go with what a QB produces off the “field of play”.

I look forward to the day a QB is mic’d up during a game and after throwing an INT, he’s heard mumbling to himself while running to the sideline……dammit man, you’re better than this, remember your S2 score…..why didn’t you see the coverage.
 
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