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2022 Simulator Mock Drafts
- Thread starter beerlover
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You can find another great tackle later, but not another Hamilton
beerlover
Hall of Fame
I’d be happy with one great tackle, one great guard and one great Center. Texans have enough depth already. Throw in one great RB while your at it, call it a draft, lol. Seriously you gotta take advantage of a drafts strength and each year is different. SteelbTexan is correct, it’s a defensive heavy draft. If Caserio gets an offer to trade down he can’t refuse then it’s off to the races. Throw in couple ones for Watson, another for Tunsil, hell we won’t even recognize this team next season. So simulate away 
I stated on one of the threads a week or so ago, that I heard Wade Smith say that what we needed first and worst, was a running game. He said further that what a team has got to have to accomplish that is talent in the interior O Line .... and he said - none of those 3 players are currently on our roster ! I strongly agree with this .... and I'd throw in a stud RB or two !
Agreed, if you want an improved running game then the draft should look something like this.
Rd.1 Neal if available
Rd.2 Kinnard or Salyer if Kinnard is already drafted
Rd.3 Charbonnet - Reminds me of Foster
Rd.3 Woolen, Very long rangy athletic CB, ultra athletically gifted.
Rd.4 Sam LaPorta TE Iowa- Cant go wrong with an Iowa TE. I chose LaPorta over Kolar because he's a better blocker and a solid receiver.
Another guy I checked out last night when looking at Charbonnet, that I would use a couple of the 6th's for to move up to the top of the 5th is Kyle Phillips. This guy reminds me of Welker.
You want to improve the offense draft these guys and you will see a marked improvement.
Texans Sim Draft
1. Evan Neal- OT- Alabama
2. Derrick Kinnard- OG- Kentucky
3. Zac Charbonnet- RB- UCLA
3. Tariq Woolen- CB UT-San Antonio
4. Sam LaPorte- TE Iowa
6. Tyreke Smith- DE Ohio St.
6. J.T. Woods S- Baylor
7. Reed Blankenship S- Middle Tennessee
This would be a dream draft for me.
2 of the most physically imposing OL in this draft (Neal/Kinnard)
Charbonnet- Tough short yd runner with break away speed that can protect in pass pro.
Woolen- Tall athletic CB that can run.
LaPorta- TE that is a really good blocker and is very sure handed pass catcher
Smith- Ohio St. best pass rusher. IMHO
Woods- Solid rangy player, good at making plays on the ball. Solid tackler.
Blankenship- See Woods
1. Evan Neal- OT- Alabama
2. Derrick Kinnard- OG- Kentucky
3. Zac Charbonnet- RB- UCLA
3. Tariq Woolen- CB UT-San Antonio
4. Sam LaPorte- TE Iowa
6. Tyreke Smith- DE Ohio St.
6. J.T. Woods S- Baylor
7. Reed Blankenship S- Middle Tennessee
This would be a dream draft for me.
2 of the most physically imposing OL in this draft (Neal/Kinnard)
Charbonnet- Tough short yd runner with break away speed that can protect in pass pro.
Woolen- Tall athletic CB that can run.
LaPorta- TE that is a really good blocker and is very sure handed pass catcher
Smith- Ohio St. best pass rusher. IMHO
Woods- Solid rangy player, good at making plays on the ball. Solid tackler.
Blankenship- See Woods
badboy
Hall of Fame
As I said months ago our needs are great everywhere and I can do four rounds on D or O and be happy. My goal with the picks I think we will have is to fill the deepest holes that brings the most benefit to team overall. For example I recognize the value of Tunsil but think what I perceive as a starting LT in draft that can become a Tunsil and perhaps better plus another significant player or pick greatly improves the overall team. Even more so when it appears now that Laramie does not want to be here. So a Charles Cross Plus a round 2 or Xavian Howard is better overall for the team then just laremy tunsil.
Another thought is I really respect Hamilton yet I do understand it may be safer to go with a sauce Gardner who does not have the same recent injury concern. Perhaps rather than using 1.3 on Hamilton a trade down might get you Gardner and another pick.
I think at minimum we will have 3 round ones, ours + one for DW and one for Tunsil. Those plus a round 2 and two thirds should go long ways in filling those deep holes.. if our GM is what we all hope he is. If we can get a RB with our round 4 even better. That opens up those other picks.
Another thought is I really respect Hamilton yet I do understand it may be safer to go with a sauce Gardner who does not have the same recent injury concern. Perhaps rather than using 1.3 on Hamilton a trade down might get you Gardner and another pick.
I think at minimum we will have 3 round ones, ours + one for DW and one for Tunsil. Those plus a round 2 and two thirds should go long ways in filling those deep holes.. if our GM is what we all hope he is. If we can get a RB with our round 4 even better. That opens up those other picks.
I'm putting Neal at RT and Kinnard at RG.
Keeping LT Tunsil
Keeping Taylor and letting Howard fight it out with Taylor for the LG spot. I'm using Heck as the swing OT, Bringing back Britt and using Morrisey as the backup. Man it would be great to have studs starting on the OL and quality backups.
I haven't read anywhere that Tunsil doesn't want to be here. I have heard that the Texans brass shut Tunsil down for the yr. Even though he could be playing if they were in playoff contention. The Texans didn't want to take the chance on Tunsil getting hurt again in this lost season.
My theory is in the sim draft I ran (Phillips wasn't available) is to fix the run game and give Mills his best chance to succeed.
BTW, What do you think of Kyle Phillips and what rd do you think he goes in? Also later rd edges that are very talented guys that I like are McDonald from Iowa St. (Converted from WR a couple of seasons ago and backup DE Beal from Georgia, another guy that if he comes out is going to test well. He made a couple of plays against Michigan but doesn't get much time.)
Kyle Phillips is rated at 5.40 by NFL.com by Lance Zierlein - (chance to make end of roster or practice squad) - not explosive or strong enough .... LZ says he will be good if he bulks up.
He's going to be a steal for somebody.
I'm thinking Edelman/Welker
Guy he reminds me of today is Renfrow.
Got a link for this? I can't find any of his 2022 reports
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
I think Zierlein is overly conservative in his reports.
badboy
Hall of Fame
There are several reports that Texans expected laremy tunsil to play long before now. Also medical reports indicating healing should have been accomplished weeks ago. Perhaps he doesn’t want to be injured again or more seriously after two ridiculous losing years. Or like others no longer on team, he just wants out. I've seen nothing indicating Texans were trying to protect this asset.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
I’d be happy with one great tackle, one great guard and one great Center. Texans have enough depth already. Throw in one great RB while your at it, call it a draft, lol. Seriously you gotta take advantage of a drafts strength and each year is different. SteelbTexan is correct, it’s a defensive heavy draft. If Caserio gets an offer to trade down he can’t refuse then it’s off to the races. Throw in couple ones for Watson, another for Tunsil, hell we won’t even recognize this team next season. So simulate away
C Tyler Linderbaum Iowa
OT Nicholas Petit-Frere Ohio State
RB Isiah Spiller Texas AM
OG Thayer Munford Ohio State
Doable on pfn mock.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
C Tyler Linderbaum Iowa
OT Nicholas Petit-Frere Ohio State
RB Isiah Spiller Texas AM
OG Thayer Munford Ohio State
Doable on pfn mock.
i need to change coffee supplier’s any suggestions?
There is some injury concerns with Linderbaum, very sad, medicals everything for him, will probably slip to 2nd rd.
Watched Petit but he is mistake prone
big Spiller fan, bell cow back, 2nd rd might sneak into 3rd, if he does you have to consider him
Mumford looks like a solid player, worthy of starting role.
i need to change coffee supplier’s any suggestions?
There is some injury concerns with Linderbaum, very sad, medicals everything for him, will probably slip to 2nd rd.
Watched Petit but he is mistake prone
big Spiller fan, bell cow back, 2nd rd might sneak into 3rd, if he does you have to consider him
Mumford looks like a solid player, worthy of starting role.
If Linderbaum falls to the 2nd, hurt or not, I redshirt him next yr and let him get healthy. He's that good. Of course I would want CnD's opinions on his injury history.
Dont like Petit at all.
Love Spiller at the top of the 3rd.
Mumford- I've got as a 4th-6th rd guy. He was very avg last yr.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Mumford has great size 6-6 327 can move and pull is Dane Brugler #9 OG not bad pick 4th or 5th if must say so.
Then you can provide a link? I still don't see it
I'm betting they stick with Marcus Cannon & Charlie Heck at RT.
I'm thinking they'll bring in two guards through FA. Nobody that is highly thought of. May not be considered an upgrade.
The draft is probably going to be all defense.
Then we shouldn't be drafting Neal.
Hope you are wrong.
But wit this this said, I really dont care which direction Caserio goes, as long as he can find some star level great players in this draft.
You want the OL/Run game to improve immediately? It's been a long standing issue. If so draft Neal put him at RT and draft Kinnard and put him at RG. That's over 700 lbs of people movers. Keep Tunsil to protect Mills blindside and draft whoever you think is the best RB you can get in rd 3 or through FA. This also gives you the chance to see how good Mills really is/can become.
What gets me is the best yrs the Texans have ever had was when Foster was running behind one of the best OL's in the NFL. You would think that fans would want Caserio to try to replicate that situation. But I guess not, they would rather keep running Howard/Scharping etc... and trade Tunsil rather than build a foundation on the run game and help the defense by keeping them off of the field.
I just dont understand the logic.
I think we want the same thing. I just don't think drafting the best LT in the draft & putting him at RT makes sense. That kid is ready to play on the left side. It would be like drafting Jalen Ramsey & playing him at SS.
If I draft Neal, I'm trading Tunsil & Howard before I put Neal at RT.
I personally think the problem with the run game won't be solved by drafting Tackles
He's played very well at RT before moving to LT.
Neal at 365 and Kinnard at 345 would give you 2 huge people movers on the right side of the OL. They also play with a mean streak. You definitely would be able to run with these 2 guys at RT/RG. 3rd and 1? No problem.
Neal
selected as a second team All-American by the Associated Press … veteran of 39 starts over three years and three positions along the Alabama offensive line, starting 13 games at left guard in 2019, 12 games at right tackle in 2020 and 14 games at left tackle in 2021 … anchors an Alabama offensive front that is opening holes and providing time for the nation’s No. 3 scoring offense (41.4 ppg), No. 4 pass efficiency offense (172.2), the No. 2
rolltide.com
selected as a second team All-American by the Associated Press … veteran of 39 starts over three years and three positions along the Alabama offensive line, starting 13 games at left guard in 2019, 12 games at right tackle in 2020 and 14 games at left tackle in 2021 … anchors an Alabama offensive front that is opening holes and providing time for the nation’s No. 3 scoring offense (41.4 ppg), No. 4 pass efficiency offense (172.2), the No. 2
Evan Neal - Football - Alabama Athletics
Evan Neal (73) OL - 2021 Selected as one of Alabama’s permanent team captains for the 2021 campaign … a consensus first team All-American by the AFCA, FWAA, ...
I'm ready to bet that. Caserio did Jack a solid by signing his culture buddy Cannon. He can't afford to bring him back at $6 million.
Caserio is making the final roster calls, not Easterby. (According to Cal)
BTW, I guess you should be happy that cutting Cannon will save 6 mil off of the cap. Should be able to find a couple of pretty good FA's like say Washington and Howard for say 10 mil. Which should be easy to accomplish after cutting a couple of the 1-2 yr guys.
Do you see Caserio bringing in another 20-25 guys on 1-2 yr deals in FA this offseason? I definitely could see it happening.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I am not fan of Neal at left tackle but he'd be successful on right. May eventually switch. IIRC, he allowed only 22 pressures and no sacks last two seasons. My preference for oline would be Icky who should be able to play LT or LG and is a brawler like Neal.Neal
selected as a second team All-American by the Associated Press … veteran of 39 starts over three years and three positions along the Alabama offensive line, starting 13 games at left guard in 2019, 12 games at right tackle in 2020 and 14 games at left tackle in 2021 … anchors an Alabama offensive front that is opening holes and providing time for the nation’s No. 3 scoring offense (41.4 ppg), No. 4 pass efficiency offense (172.2), the No. 2
Evan Neal - Football - Alabama Athletics
Evan Neal (73) OL - 2021 Selected as one of Alabama’s permanent team captains for the 2021 campaign … a consensus first team All-American by the AFCA, FWAA, ...
I'm projecting Jags to select Neal.
Neal
selected as a second team All-American by the Associated Press … veteran of 39 starts over three years and three positions along the Alabama offensive line, starting 13 games at left guard in 2019, 12 games at right tackle in 2020 and 14 games at left tackle in 2021 … anchors an Alabama offensive front that is opening holes and providing time for the nation’s No. 3 scoring offense (41.4 ppg), No. 4 pass efficiency offense (172.2), the No. 2
Evan Neal - Football - Alabama Athletics
Evan Neal (73) OL - 2021 Selected as one of Alabama’s permanent team captains for the 2021 campaign … a consensus first team All-American by the AFCA, FWAA, ...
You think this guy might help the run game and help protect Mills?
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Back to assimilation. Big proponent of trading down. Struggled to avoid that game and just select prospects off the board who I felt would be the best players @ positions of need. Especially first two picks, then it becomes depth building in areas of weakness who can compete for a roster spot. Playmakers, possible faces of organization, improved OL (don’t have to take one early) infusion of secondary size and speed then offensive weapons to balance what should otherwise be a defensive draft.
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3.
Kayvon Thibodeaux
EDGE Oregon
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37.
Jaquan Brisker
S Penn State
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68.
Daniel Faalele
OT Minnesota
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80.
Zach Charbonnet
RB UCLA
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132.
Tyler Smith
OT Tulsa
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183.
Shaun Jolly
CB Appalachian State
200.
James Mitchell
TE Virginia Tech
247.
Bubba Bolden
S Miami-Fl
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I’d like to get a consensus on the trades leading up to the draft from those of us who actually participate with Mock’s.
1. Does Watson get traded before the draft?
2. If so, what is the return?
3. Does Tunsil get traded before the draft?
4. If so, what is the return?
5. Do the Texans trade out of the 3 spot?
6. If so, what is the return?
7. Do the Texans bundle late round picks to move up for a players or is the draft deep enough to stand pat and draft solid defensive or offensive developmental players?
1. Does Watson get traded before the draft?
2. If so, what is the return?
3. Does Tunsil get traded before the draft?
4. If so, what is the return?
5. Do the Texans trade out of the 3 spot?
6. If so, what is the return?
7. Do the Texans bundle late round picks to move up for a players or is the draft deep enough to stand pat and draft solid defensive or offensive developmental players?
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1. No one can really know at this point. It's not a situation controlled by the Texans, other teams, or even Watson.
2. See above
3. I think Tunsil does get traded. There's something to Tunsil not getting back on the field. I think it's a gentleman's agreement to make a deal in the offseason.
4. A 1st this year, and a conditional pick next year. Probably a 3rd, or a pick swap that swaps 2nds and 3rds. It will be to a team that's in win now mode. Nothing in the top 10.
5. I just don't see anyone moving up for the players rated at #3. If there were a QB rated to go there, then yes. I just don't see a lot of movement at the top of the draft.
6. If there is a trade @#3, it will be a short move. At trade value chart or less.
7. I'd like to say Caserio stands pat. Or moves down for additional picks (maybe for 2023). That's the Patriots Way. But, Caserio has shown the propensity for pissing away picks. So, I guess that will continue.
1. Tell me if the Grand Jury No Bills Derrick
2. See Above
3. Tunsil plays down on Kirby next season and is traded during the 2023 0ffseason.
4. See Above
5. They will try, but not find a deal.
6. If they do make a trade it will be for less than trade chart value.
7. Hopefully, I would like to see Caserio use a couple of those 6ths and the 4th to move up into the bottom of the 3rd/top of the 4th to get 5th top 100 player. Quality over Quantity. At the very least I hope he packages a couple of late rd picks to move up into the 5th rd.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Mock is habit forming. 
Quoted for truthMock is habit forming.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Habit forming yes…….so this Mock has Watson going to the Broncos, Tunsil going to the Eagles, and the Texans trading out of the 3 spot with the Giants.
Denver Gets:
Watson
Texans Get:
2022: RD1-09 / RD2-40 / RD3-75
2023: RD1 / RD3
2024: RD1
Philadelphia Gets:
Tunsil
Texans Get:
2022: RD1-19 / RD5-152
2023: RD2 / RD5
NY Giants Get:
2022: RD3-03
Texans Get:
2022: RD1-05 / RD2-36 / RD5-170
Let’s Draft
RD1-005: SS- Kyle Hamilton (Notre Dame)
RD1-009: OC- Tyler Linderbaum (Iowa)
RD1-019: LG- Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)
RD2-036: RG- Darian Kinnard (Kentucky)
RD2-037: FS- Daxton Hill (Michigan)
RD2-040: CB- Deion Kendrick (Georgia)
RD3-068: RB- Zach Charbonnet (UCLA)
RD3-075: RB- Rachaad White (Arizona St)
RD3-080: WR- Jalen Tolbert (South Alabama)
RD4-130: OT- Nick Broeker (Ole Miss)
RD5-152: DB- Demani Richardson (Texas A&M)
RD5-170: DB- Brian Cook (Cincinnati)
RD6-183: DB- Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson (TCU) **That Tomlinson**
RD6-201: WR- Danny Gray (SMU)
RD6-210: TE- Lucas Krull (Pitt)
RD7-245: DE- Eyioma Uwazurike (Iowa State)
Denver Gets:
Watson
Texans Get:
2022: RD1-09 / RD2-40 / RD3-75
2023: RD1 / RD3
2024: RD1
Philadelphia Gets:
Tunsil
Texans Get:
2022: RD1-19 / RD5-152
2023: RD2 / RD5
NY Giants Get:
2022: RD3-03
Texans Get:
2022: RD1-05 / RD2-36 / RD5-170
Let’s Draft
RD1-005: SS- Kyle Hamilton (Notre Dame)
RD1-009: OC- Tyler Linderbaum (Iowa)
RD1-019: LG- Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)
RD2-036: RG- Darian Kinnard (Kentucky)
RD2-037: FS- Daxton Hill (Michigan)
RD2-040: CB- Deion Kendrick (Georgia)
RD3-068: RB- Zach Charbonnet (UCLA)
RD3-075: RB- Rachaad White (Arizona St)
RD3-080: WR- Jalen Tolbert (South Alabama)
RD4-130: OT- Nick Broeker (Ole Miss)
RD5-152: DB- Demani Richardson (Texas A&M)
RD5-170: DB- Brian Cook (Cincinnati)
RD6-183: DB- Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson (TCU) **That Tomlinson**
RD6-201: WR- Danny Gray (SMU)
RD6-210: TE- Lucas Krull (Pitt)
RD7-245: DE- Eyioma Uwazurike (Iowa State)
You sure that you and Badboy aren't related? LOL
Fun to play around with, but never gonna happen.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If Watson clears his legal hurdles….you don’t think the Broncos would have any interest? If they do, then would the return I suggested be unreasonable?
If the Texans decide to move away from Tunsil, the Eagles would be great landing spot since I see them as a team with enough assets to brig him in to help protect Hurts. Texans would be getting out from under his contract and the Eagles could extend him by giving him a decent signing bonus. I don’t think the return would be all that unreasonable.
I think the trade with the Giants could have some strong merit if they’re worried Neal wouldn’t still be on the board at 5…..so they swap positions and give up a RD2 and RD5. It falls with the parameters of the trade value index.
So, 2 moveable assets return value and a move out of 3 spot would be a great move provided they’re not moving back 15-20 spots.
16 picks? 9 in the top 100?
Ludicrous! You couldn't sign them all under the rookie cap, much less in 4-5 years
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Too much for Derrick
Philly just paid their LT of the future.
NYG just drafted Thomas to be their LT of the future and he played well last yr. He also is on his rookie deal. I cant see NYG trading assets and taking on Tunsil's contract when they already have their LT in place.
The rookie pool for rookies is set by the NFL and is limited