cuppacoffee
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There are reports that four teams have removed Sweat from their board because of health concerns.
Not sure if our resident doc. has discussed Sweats health problem.
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There are reports that four teams have removed Sweat from their board because of health concerns.
Not sure if our resident doc. has discussed Sweats health problem.
There are reports that four teams have removed Sweat from their board because of health concerns.
Not sure if our resident doc. has discussed Sweats health problem.
Yeah, heard this too. It could cause Sweat to fall in the Draft. Question is, do the Texans take Sweat at #23, if he falls, or are they one of the teams who have removed him from their board? Think I heard he has some kind of heart condition that was spotted at the Combine during his medical, but I'm not sure. Memory is getting a "little fuzzy" at my age!
Yeah, heard this too. It could cause Sweat to fall in the Draft. Question is, do the Texans take Sweat at #23, if he falls, or are they one of the teams who have removed him from their board? Think I heard he has some kind of heart condition that was spotted at the Combine during his medical, but I'm not sure. Memory is getting a "little fuzzy" at my age!
Of course you pick him.
You pick talent over need when it comes to this guy. A differencemaker. He wont be there at 23.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Yep. Most athletic edge since... Clowney
He was top 10 before. How far do you think he falls now? Top 15? Top 20?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
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I dont think he falls out of the top 10.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I think it's a smokescreen. Teams are trying to get him to fall to them leaking out reports that he is being removed from draft boards. He'll go top 10.
Not concerned about health issues?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
In this class? I wouldn't put money on it. Would you?
What about J Simmons? He’s top ten talent that may fall because of injury.
TexansFan15
All Pro
I’d draft him depending on who else was available. I’d definitely pick him with one of our 2nds.
Do you want to pay him next yr to rehab his ACL?
The Texans aren't in a place to have to wait on a guy. I like Simmons alot though.
Well no ****. If he’s there at 54 we better run up to the podium.
I would trade back as far as possible in the first round and draft him sure. If he’s gone trade back again. I’ve said before my strategy in this draft would be to acquire as many picks as possible in rounds 2 and 3. If he fell to me after picking up another pick I would do it yes.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Lance Zierlein said on radio he has heard rumors the Texans are in play to trade up around 16-17 range. And that they have done more research on OTs than any other team this draft season (based on player interviews. Team will ask who has shown most interest).
TexansFan15
All Pro
They’d have to trade up before Carolina, but I’d be more than happy if they did. More than likely it’d either be for Dillard or Williams, and either would be a great addition to the line.
AngryNateFTW
Veteran
If we trade up using pick 55 that almost guarantees that we trade down at 54 or 86, right?
One player isn't going to solidify this roster or even that offensive line.
One player isn't going to solidify this roster or even that offensive line.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Agree, but one stud can certainly turn it in the right direction and be the lynchpin to work with.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Agree, but one stud can certainly turn it in the right direction and be the lynchpin to work with - rather than continuing with a hodgepodge.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Agree one player won't fix everything, but if it's a franchise LT, that's a building block for the next 10 years.
That’s the problem. Who in this draft is a franchise LT that’s attainable?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Williams and Dillard both have franchise LT upside and their additions would improve the offense immensely.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
It's likely that none of these guys will be instant studs at run blocking and pass pro so you look for someone who is a stud at one or the other and they can work on their weakness.
In the meantime, you can work with their strengths.
Just because they aren't studs at their weak spot, it doesn't mean they cannot do it - they will have some experience at it. After all, they are linemen
So then, different coaching i.e., NFL, can help.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
With Dillard I agree. He’ll need work on run blocking/hand placement but he’s a dancing bear and will be the best pass blocker on roster immediately.
Jonah I see visions of his mentor Joe Thomas. He is special and his technique is top notch. I don’t care about comments he’d do better inside. He’ll be great anywhere just like Zack Martin (who moved inside because they have best LT in league Tyron Smith already).
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Now don't laugh too loud......but LT, Mitch Hyatt- Clemson will be there for the taking. For whatever reason, analyst(s) have soured on him and that could be great for the Texans. This guy played the toughest position on Clemson's OL and he did it against top notch talent for 4 seasons. Maybe he's not the best looking or performing athlete on underwear day but when the pads go on, he seemed to be more than up to the challenge of protecting his QB's.
The Texans won't be able to sniff the media darlings early without mortgaging their draft to do so.....so I'd be more than happy if they landed Hyatt and then he was capable of showing why Clemson won 2 CFB Championships and played in a 3rd while he was the LT.
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That’s fine but are they attainable at arealistic price? If they’re both gone what do we do?
You missed the point.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Not sure if there is any right or wrong answer to this question, undoubtedly the trade chart is a reasonable place to seriously explore possibilities.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_trade_value.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_trade_value.htm
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Before draft, around war rooms we can assume there are some conversations happening by now with different trade scenarios. Much I would consider trading up to Miami or Atlanta and using one of those 2nds for Dillard or Williams I’m even more inclined to trading back, moving one 2nd up and gaining 3rd/4th. Just so many holes to fill. Obviously not a total rebuild but a rebuild nevertheless on the run.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Dillard and Williams. Both are attainable, we just need to trade up to make it happen.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Sorry SteelB
More than likely we will depend on Davenport this year. Still scratching may head over the Kalil signing.
A lot of second tier O linemen will be available to us and whomever we select will not be starter ready coming in.
Barring a trade that I hope doesn't happen I expect to see Defense addressed @ 23.
Would not be shocked if both Titus Howard and Andre Dillard are there for us in round 2.
Tillery, Dillard, Howard. Ok .....or jump of the bridge?
Sorry SteelB
More than likely we will depend on Davenport this year. Still scratching may head over the Kalil signing.
A lot of second tier O linemen will be available to us and whomever we select will not be starter ready coming in.
Barring a trade that I hope doesn't happen I expect to see Defense addressed @ 23.
Would not be shocked if both Titus Howard and Andre Dillard are there for us in round 2.
Tillery, Dillard, Howard. Ok .....or jump of the bridge?
Dillard wont be there at 23 much less rd 2.
If Davenport is the starting LT you can expect more of what we saw last yr. The offense will have to be schemed around his ineptness. Expect more of the TE's having to stay in to help his lousy a** out 70% of the time.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, at least from the outside, it seems the Texans are content going into 2019 with Davenport entrenched at LT and they will only add a RT to compete with Henderson.
Dillard has franchise LT traits. Neither are “franchise” LTs at this point. If Dillard is there at 14 I wouldn’t be upset if we trade up to get him but I would rather trade down and acquire as many top 80 picks as possible. Not sure I would trade up for Williams. I like him but 23 is about where he should be. Carolina and Minnesota are both likely going to go OL so you’re probably going to have to go up to at least 14 or 15 to get one of them. Don’t believe Dillard will be there. I think Carolina will go Williams. If that’s the case I’m going with whomever unexpectedly falls or even better using that players availability to trade back.
Ford wouldn’t be a bad pick. He would start for the next ten years at RT or at the very least be an outstanding G. I just don’t see any real LT prospects that can come in and start right away that won’t cost us dearly in this draft. Who knows stranger things have happened. Maybe Dillard falls right into our lap.
Porky
Hall of Fame
As badly as we need oline, I wouldn't freak out if we traded up a few spots to get Dillard or Jonah W. Having said that, I'm not sure there is a true franchise LT available that wears a near can't miss label.
So with that said, I'd be inclined to take trade down offers and if nothing presents itself - sit at 23 and take BPA at a need spot. WE need more bites at the apple. This team, although needy as hell at OL has other needs! At 23, it's likely OL or CB, but I wouldn't be upset with a pass rusher at any position, or a special player that drops at another position such as Hockensen who has a chance to be special at TE.
So with that said, I'd be inclined to take trade down offers and if nothing presents itself - sit at 23 and take BPA at a need spot. WE need more bites at the apple. This team, although needy as hell at OL has other needs! At 23, it's likely OL or CB, but I wouldn't be upset with a pass rusher at any position, or a special player that drops at another position such as Hockensen who has a chance to be special at TE.
Agreed, but don't think the need for a rusher off the edge is near as high as an interior rusher
That's for shore some impressive stuff to put on ones resume. And no doubt that he's a winner and we've had some real success around here with these Clemson guys.
A lot of people said the same thing about Brown after his first year. I’m not sure there is anyone attainable in this draft that comes in and starts in front of Davenport.
I believe Dillard is gone early. He is the closest thing to a franchise LT in this draft. It’s a lot easier to teach an OL to run block than to pass block.
I also believe there is a good chance Williams falls to us. He’s a good player but not even close to being a franchise OT. I would not trade up for him but I would take him at 23. He would get a chance to unseat Davenport and if fails become a starter at C or LG.
I'm hoping for trading Clowney to the Bills. Taking Dillard at 9 and Greedy at 23. Then picking McGary at 54 and Sanders at 55. Then McLaurin at 86.
Let Mercilus and Duke play in Clowney's spot next yr.
I think Williams can be a franchise LT.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Man, if we got those draftees, I wouldn't be able to contain myself waiting for the first game.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Would be an impact rookie class that can reshape the fortunes of a franchise similar to Saints 2017 and Colts 2018.
You could have that whole draft minus trading Clowney for a lesser player. Dillard is a good prospect but not a top ten talent. Not nearly good enough for a straight up trade for Clowney.
People are falling in love with these guys (Williams and Dillard) because their the best in this class and it’s a big time need for us. Neither are worthy of a top 10 pick. I don’t think Taylor isn’t either. If we had the 9th pick I’m going with an elite prospect over need.
I don't think they trade Clowney. Not this year anyway. Mercilus is the one that could be on the trade market. If he is the Texans could get a 4th or a 5th for him and then maybe another 6th or 7th rounder, but I'm not sure.
Go back and look at the last two drafts. The OTs are actually pretty similar talent wise. 2017 Garret Bolles first OT taken goes # 20, Ryan Ramzcyk goes #32, Cam Robinson goes #34 the next OT doesn’t go until #85.
Last year 2018 the first OT to go is McGlinchy at #9, Kolton Miller at #15, then Isaiah Whynn at #23 then Austin Corbett at #33.
I think there’s a good chance these guys don’t all go too 15 like most here seem to think. Especially with 3 or 4 QBs and all the quality DL guys that are available in this draft.
I would sit tight at 23 and let the draft come to us. If the top guys are gone I would seriously consider Ford. He could come in and start right away at LG and if Henderson doesn’t workout move over to RT. I don’t trust Henderson at all. Ford would be a great insurance for him and be able to upgrade the interior as well. If he’s gone too the trade back.
Last year 2018 the first OT to go is McGlinchy at #9, Kolton Miller at #15, then Isaiah Whynn at #23 then Austin Corbett at #33.
I think there’s a good chance these guys don’t all go too 15 like most here seem to think. Especially with 3 or 4 QBs and all the quality DL guys that are available in this draft.
I would sit tight at 23 and let the draft come to us. If the top guys are gone I would seriously consider Ford. He could come in and start right away at LG and if Henderson doesn’t workout move over to RT. I don’t trust Henderson at all. Ford would be a great insurance for him and be able to upgrade the interior as well. If he’s gone too the trade back.
Agreed
I think much more highly of Dillard and Williams than you do.