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2017 Houston Texans Official OTA's, Minicamp, and Training Camp Thread

76Texan said:
Nothing surprising there.
It's way too early.
But the penchant to take of and run needs to be reigned in before it becomes a bad habit.
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He just needs to balance it. I just hope they groom Watson to be the best Deshaun Watson he can be and not Tom Brady. We aren't the Patriots we need to develop a stronger identity within our own culture.
 
cstyle42 said:
He just needs to balance it. I just hope they groom Watson to be the best Deshaun Watson he can be and not Tom Brady. We aren't the Patriots we need to develop a stronger identity within our own culture.
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Agree, but
Hey, I'm not the one that's turning the Texans into Patriots wannabees.

:ahhaha:
 
Extended Cut of Houston Texans Training Camp: Day Two
A deeper look at the Houston Texans second day of training camp at The Greenbrier.


Thank goodness this was not a a game because the quarterbacks would have been hit a ton today. On one play, Jadeveon Clowney, Whitney Mercilus, and Benardrick McKinney all beat their blockers and had clear paths to the quarterback. Two from the edge and one from the middle gave the offense fits. Brennan Scarlett also showed some pass rush ability, beating an offensive tackle to the quarterback. All four defenders are expected to be big contributors this season.


Dee Virgin had a nice interception off of a deflected pass on a quick throw. Virgin has been one of the rookie defenders to watch, especially with the work he did during the off-season. He has made strides in coverage and he has had a good start to his camp.


Dylan Cole had an interception of his own off of the arm of Deshaun Watson. Dropping into coverage, Cole was able to snag the football with a small jump and return it for a touchdown. Cole's athletic ability is showing from the linebacker spot.


It was a fumble fest on the field on Tuesday. The Texans preach to their defenders to punch or rip the football from ball carriers, so Kurtis Drummond and Cole both followed that directive, causing fumbles of their own.


D'Onta Foreman has had his moments and has shown why he could be the back of the future. He does a good job when running the ball, pressing into the line of scrimmage and showing patience to burst through when he sees the hole. One thing Foreman is going to have to realize is that defenders in the NFL can run at all levels and he will not be able to beat them to the edge. Foreman is going to have to make his yardage inside the tackles and be a one cut runner.


Braxton Miller had one of the best receptions on the day when he beat his defenders to the corner of the end zone and Brandon Weeden hit him right before he was going to step out of bounds. Miller is getting comfortable in his position of slot receiver and understanding where he fits his routes based on coverage.


Brandon Weeden has not been talked about much but the fact is that all of the spotlight is on the other quarterbacks, Weeden is just cutting it loose and making it look easy. He is driving the football with every throw and more importantly, throwing his intended targets open. Besides the Miller throw, he also hit Jaelen Strong in the end zone for a nice connection on a route that headed toward the sideline. Strong tapped his feet in with a well placed ball away from the defender.


One thing all three quarterbacks are trying to get uses to is the idea of letting the ball go on deep routes and allowing their targets to run underneath it. Small hesitations by the quarterbacks are leaving passes under thrown, allowing defenders to close the gaps to get their hands on the ball. The Texans wide receivers have been showing their speed and quickness to create separation on the top of their routes, speed from the wide receiver position is not the issue. The issue is achieving a positive final result.


Special teams plays an important part in what the Texans want from their roster. Lonnie Ballentine would have blocked a punt but they pulled off to allow the play to continue. Corey Moore was continually the first one down the field in punt coverage, always there to make the stop if the situation would have included live hitting. If Moore and Ballentine want to solidify their spots on the roster, this is the best way to do it.


Brian Peters is the only inside linebacker who is consistently covering backs and tight ends at the moment. Rookie Avery Williams showed a few times that he has the right idea but he possibly needs to refine his technique to not draw penalties. Both Peters and Williams have the quickness to get out of breaks and on top of routes to break up passes. There is work to be done with the coverage game of the inside linebackers.


Whitney Mercilus welcomed rookie Julien Davenport to the NFL when they went one-on-one pass rushing drills. Mercilus used his go to moves to let Davenport know that he is going to have to pick up his game if he wants to stop NFL pass rushers. Mercilus put Davenport on skates when he set up the rookie with an outside move, only to use the spin move to get inside and gain a straight line to the quarterback. Mercilus is such a technician when it comes to pass rushing; he has the best arsenal of moves on how to beat offensive tackles.


Zach Cunningham showed some life in coverage late when he was able to knock down a pass intended for a tight end. The ball was in the tight ends' hands while Cunningham closed the gap and slapped it out of their hands. This is the second day in a row that Cunningham has shown some ability in pass coverage.
The Texans are working to find their combination at safety and the position battle is between Corey Moore and Kurtis Drummond, for the time being, to play opposite of Andre Hal. Moore is a better tackler than Drummond but lacks the recognition to diagnose plays consistently, especially when it comes to getting over the top of routes to help out the cornerbacks. While Drummond has much better instincts as a pass defender, he is going to have to show he can stay healthy and tackle with a purpose when pads get put on.
 
I hope they aren't trying to get him to play like Savage and stand in the pocket forever.

Part of his skill set is his mobility.

You don't want to coach improvisation out of him.

I can see if he's missing reads and not stepping up into voids/sliding in the pocket at all and just taking his drop>quick scan>take off....

Then you want to get him to be more patient. You want him to want to throw first and run/scramble only if it's the absolute best/last option.

He's a rookie though who hasn't even played a pre season game though so hopefully he finds the right balance.

But I personally would not forbid him from bailing. Id just try to get him to make sure he wasn't bailing too fast and to fully work the pocket first.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
But I personally would not forbid him from bailing. Id just try to get him to make sure he wasn't bailing too fast and to fully work the pocket first.
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Yup, that's what film review is for, where specific missed opportunities can be shown instead of a generic "don't run so fast."

'Maverick won this encounterr, but we've shown it here as an example of what not to do.'
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I hope they aren't trying to get him to play like Savage and stand in the pocket forever.

Part of his skill set is his mobility.

You don't want to coach improvisation out of him.

I can see if he's missing reads and not stepping up into voids/sliding in the pocket at all and just taking his drop>quick scan>take off....

Then you want to get him to be more patient. You want him to want to throw first and run/scramble only if it's the absolute best/last option.

He's a rookie though who hasn't even played a pre season game though so hopefully he finds the right balance.

But I personally would not forbid him from bailing. Id just try to get him to make sure he wasn't bailing too fast and to fully work the pocket first.
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I thought that was obvious.

It was one of the things that I marked as a "need to work on" to be successful at the NFL level, and to have longevity - which in turn, enhances the chance of success.

But it's not abnormal for many rookie QBs; especially those that had success taking off with the ball in college.
 
Picking and choosing a couple of these to share. Sounds like back shoulder throws are BACK! That's a great thing for this offense...hell any completed pass is a good thing for us!

31 observations from day two of #TexansCamp
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...xansCamp/d93bcdad-7d56-40b5-8da9-172c9f82183b

2. During 1-on-1s, he made a diving catch for a touchdown near the facility on a beautiful deep throw from Tom Savage. The great part about it, though, was that Hop put a double move on the corner and lost him. After throwing the deep ball short a few times on Wednesday, Savage threw it as far as he could to the back end of the field. Hopkins caught it. Later in team drills, Savage threw backshoulder into a crowded space to Hopkins. 10 caught it. He threw a backshoulder in the end zone. Hopkins caught it. Deshaun Watson threw a fade into the far corner of the end zone. Hopkins caught it...then toe tapped for the score. It was reminiscent of what Hopkins did in 2015 when he caught everything in sight and showed that he was the no doubt, best player on the field.

4. A defensive back that many people don’t know much about had some really strong moments on Thursday: cornerback Marcus Roberson. The former Florida Gator was claimed on waivers during the offseason and has come to the Greenbrier ready to compete. During 1-on-1s, he was in man coverage on Jaelen Strong on a deep route down the far sideline. It appeared that Strong was about to pull in a long throw with his right hand for the catch of camp, but right at the last moment, Roberson raked over his arms and knocked it away. Later in the day in team drills, Roberson also knocked away a pass intended for Wendall Williams.

7. One guy that made his presence known, not only in those drills, but in 1-on-1s as well was Braxton Miller. I mentioned it yesterday and it bears repeating: Miller’s trajectory is swinging way up. His route running and ability to get separation are without peer in this camp. He will completely lose guys trying to cover him and get yards of separation. He’s not thinking about it and it’s not slower than it needs to be. The timing is nearly perfect and will only get better.

16. Another name to watch in the secondary is cornerback Dee Virgin. I wrote his name in my notes a few times as he had a couple of pass breakups and one interception on a tipped pass during a team session for a pick six. He’s an intriguing player that took a little different path to get to the Texans than most guys take.

17. Watching running back D’Onta Foreman, I can’t wait to see what he does tomorrow when the pads go on. He’s going to be an excellent inside runner. He has tremendous feet for a big guy, patience and burst to and through the hole. But, at Texas, he didn’t run much outside or outside zone. When he did, he just outran any, and all, of the college defenders down the field. THAT won’t happen in this league; there have been at least three or four runs where it appeared that he could get the edge and then BOOM the calvary arrived to tag off on him before he got two yards. That’ll change with more experience and reps in this offense, especially when the pads go on.
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PapaL said:
Picking and choosing a couple of these to share. Sounds like back shoulder throws are BACK! That's a great thing for this offense...hell any completed pass is a good thing for us!

31 observations from day two of #TexansCamp
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...xansCamp/d93bcdad-7d56-40b5-8da9-172c9f82183b
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20. The quarterbacks continue to throw the ball well. Marc and I had a ringside seat during our radio show, watching Tom Savage and Deshaun Watson throw, on air of course, to receivers during a drill. Marc has seen every single training camp practice and then some and he was still blown away by the accuracy, ball placement, etc...Before you say, yeah, John but it was against air, just know that it didn’t look quite like that last year. These quarterbacks throw the ball so effortlessly and with such good ball placement; it’s truly fun to watch.
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Mother fuckin shade
 
David Quessenberry has spent the last three years battling non-Hodgkin T-lymphoblastic lymphoma. He is now taking reps as the starting left guard for the Houston Texans, according to John McClain of theHouston Chronicle.

The Texans placed Quessenberry on the non-football illness list in 2015 after they waived him. He is now cancer-free and back in pads with the team, working with the starters.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/07/27/houston-texans-david-quessenberry-cancer-free-working-first-team
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So they just got started in TC, barely brushed the surface but the pads are on today which should be interesting for a lot of folks including
Quess.
Anything at all on Quess C&D, or it just means nothing in only the third day of TC ?
He dose look big, healthy, and stout.
 
IDEXAN said:
David Quessenberry has spent the last three years battling non-Hodgkin T-lymphoblastic lymphoma. He is now taking reps as the starting left guard for the Houston Texans, according to John McClain of theHouston Chronicle.

The Texans placed Quessenberry on the non-football illness list in 2015 after they waived him. He is now cancer-free and back in pads with the team, working with the starters.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/07/27/houston-texans-david-quessenberry-cancer-free-working-first-team
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So they just got started in TC, barely brushed the surface but the pads are on today which should be interesting for a lot of folks including
Quess.
Anything at all on Quess C&D, or it just means nothing in only the third day of TC ?
He dose look big, healthy, and stout.
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As I've stated before, Qessenberry's "battle" is not over. He has up to 25% risk of developing another cancer. The extensive multi-chemo treatments of his cancer has no doubt created wear on his body and left permanent effects on his body, such as brittle bones (osteoporosis). It is only his ability to attain and maintain strength and conditioning and durability through multiple game exposure which will reveal or rule out his limitations.
 
TheKDog said:
Why didn't he report that last year?

And others are saying deshaun hasn't been accurate so far
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I remember there being more than one reporter/analyst that repeatedly said Savage was looking better than the Giraffe last training camp. Im pretty sure that none of those were being paid by the team though :)

As far as Watson, Ive heard that he was very good the first day, but had trouble handling the first and second team D the second day. To be fair, he WAS behind the third team OL when facing the first and second team D
 
As for reports last year from people not on the payroll, Dan Pastorini repeatedly said that Savage was the best QB in camp (during camp) last year. He was not impressed with Brock.
I would like to hear Dante's evaluation of the QB's in camp this year at the end of TC/preseason.
 
Quick Hitters: Houston Texans Training Camp Day Three
Houston Texans training camp day three quick hitters from The Greenbrier.

The Houston Texans wrapped up their third day at The Greenbrier and practice was pushed ahead due to the threat of rain in the area. Today marked the first day of players wearing pads, helping to separate and establish an early pecking order of where players sit on the field. With that in mind, here are your quick hitters from day three at Texans trianing camp.


Once the pads were strapped on, Brian Cushing was the early standout in the run game, especially in goal line situations. He got downhill in a hurry and was cleaning up ball carriers in the hole. It was all Cushing in those situations. His physical nature set the tone for practice and the defense pretty much took over the goal line period of practice.


It was finally good to see D’Onta Foreman in pads today and he has a better feel for the running game than expected. He is a patient runner and does a decent job of dropping his pads, making himself tough to tackle. He can get a little too antsy at times, trying to run to where there is no blocking, which gets him in trouble. He did pop a couple of runs, showing what he can do when the ball is in his hands. He also had a strong day in pass pro drills against linebackers.


Lamar Miller had a good day running the ball as well and it is almost like he is seeing the plays develop better than last year. It may be early still but on some runs, he showed patience and allowed his blocking to take over. He had two runs that ate up good yardage due to some strong blocking up front.


Brennan Scarlett must have been waiting for pads today because he was flying around and laying hits on players. He is also showed some impressive skill in pass rushing. He has taken positive steps while playing on the edge and setting it against the run. His overall strength is noticeable when locking up with tight ends. He has refined his technique and looked solid in the first day of pads.


The offensive line struggled in the red zone but after they got warmed up, they started opening holes for Miller, Foreman, Blue, and Ervin to go to work. All four backs had runs where they moved the chains at some point in practice. Nick Martin was physical at the point of attack while Jeff Allen and Kendall Lamm were moving bodies when the play was headed their direction. The offensive line still has work to do but there was much better downhill action from the running backs to help the running game which aided the blocking.


As for the quarterbacks, Tom Savage continues to be accurate and take care of the football. It sounds like a broken record but he went to work with DeAndre Hopkins again. Hopkins was doing what he wanted in the middle of the field off of the arm of Savage who was hitting him in stride, allowing Hopkins to eat up yards. Savage also had a solid deep ball to Jaelen Strong that landed in the end zone where Strong leapt up over a defender to bring in it. Savage is throwing catchable balls and notably has had very few negative plays when he is on the field.


Deshaun Watson continues to develop day to day and rarely does he make the same mistake twice. He did a better job of driving the football to his targets when he was attacking the middle of the field, which he did not do well earlier in camp, although there are times when he gets locked onto a target and makes it easy for defenders to cover. His best ball went to Dres Anderson in the middle of the field where Watson waited for the route to develop and fit it in-between two defenders, hitting Anderson for a sliding catch. There will be highs and lows with Watson but the signs remain encouraging and the moment does not look too big for him.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Quick Hitters: Houston Texans Training Camp Day Three
Houston Texans training camp day three quick hitters from The Greenbrier.

The Houston Texans wrapped up their third day at The Greenbrier and practice was pushed ahead due to the threat of rain in the area. Today marked the first day of players wearing pads, helping to separate and establish an early pecking order of where players sit on the field. With that in mind, here are your quick hitters from day three at Texans trianing camp.


Once the pads were strapped on, Brian Cushing was the early standout in the run game, especially in goal line situations. He got downhill in a hurry and was cleaning up ball carriers in the hole. It was all Cushing in those situations. His physical nature set the tone for practice and the defense pretty much took over the goal line period of practice.


It was finally good to see D’Onta Foreman in pads today and he has a better feel for the running game than expected. He is a patient runner and does a decent job of dropping his pads, making himself tough to tackle. He can get a little too antsy at times, trying to run to where there is no blocking, which gets him in trouble. He did pop a couple of runs, showing what he can do when the ball is in his hands. He also had a strong day in pass pro drills against linebackers.


Lamar Miller had a good day running the ball as well and it is almost like he is seeing the plays develop better than last year. It may be early still but on some runs, he showed patience and allowed his blocking to take over. He had two runs that ate up good yardage due to some strong blocking up front.


Brennan Scarlett must have been waiting for pads today because he was flying around and laying hits on players. He is also showed some impressive skill in pass rushing. He has taken positive steps while playing on the edge and setting it against the run. His overall strength is noticeable when locking up with tight ends. He has refined his technique and looked solid in the first day of pads.


The offensive line struggled in the red zone but after they got warmed up, they started opening holes for Miller, Foreman, Blue, and Ervin to go to work. All four backs had runs where they moved the chains at some point in practice. Nick Martin was physical at the point of attack while Jeff Allen and Kendall Lamm were moving bodies when the play was headed their direction. The offensive line still has work to do but there was much better downhill action from the running backs to help the running game which aided the blocking.


As for the quarterbacks, Tom Savage continues to be accurate and take care of the football. It sounds like a broken record but he went to work with DeAndre Hopkins again. Hopkins was doing what he wanted in the middle of the field off of the arm of Savage who was hitting him in stride, allowing Hopkins to eat up yards. Savage also had a solid deep ball to Jaelen Strong that landed in the end zone where Strong leapt up over a defender to bring in it. Savage is throwing catchable balls and notably has had very few negative plays when he is on the field.


Deshaun Watson continues to develop day to day and rarely does he make the same mistake twice. He did a better job of driving the football to his targets when he was attacking the middle of the field, which he did not do well earlier in camp, although there are times when he gets locked onto a target and makes it easy for defenders to cover. His best ball went to Dres Anderson in the middle of the field where Watson waited for the route to develop and fit it in-between two defenders, hitting Anderson for a sliding catch. There will be highs and lows with Watson but the signs remain encouraging and the moment does not look too big for him.
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Yawn.
I keep hearing, even with O'brien, that "he doesn't make the mistake twice".
Makes me wonder how many different types of mistakes there are.

And I am sure I'm not cynical.
 
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Assistant coach Pat O'Hara, left, talks to quarterback Deshaun Watson during training camp about being a distraction by wearing too short a miniskirt to practice.
 
Can we please stop mentioning the vomit of a QB we had last season. We all heard and talk about who was better in camp. There is no need to keep beating the stuffing out of that dead horse. Like yall said Savage has been in the system longer so he suppose to be better RIGHT.

It's his health I'm worried about.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Quick Hitters: Houston Texans Training Camp Day Three
Houston Texans training camp day three quick hitters from The Greenbrier.

The Houston Texans wrapped up their third day at The Greenbrier and practice was pushed ahead due to the threat of rain in the area. Today marked the first day of players wearing pads, helping to separate and establish an early pecking order of where players sit on the field. With that in mind, here are your quick hitters from day three at Texans trianing camp.


Once the pads were strapped on, Brian Cushing was the early standout in the run game, especially in goal line situations. He got downhill in a hurry and was cleaning up ball carriers in the hole. It was all Cushing in those situations. His physical nature set the tone for practice and the defense pretty much took over the goal line period of practice.


It was finally good to see D’Onta Foreman in pads today and he has a better feel for the running game than expected. He is a patient runner and does a decent job of dropping his pads, making himself tough to tackle. He can get a little too antsy at times, trying to run to where there is no blocking, which gets him in trouble. He did pop a couple of runs, showing what he can do when the ball is in his hands. He also had a strong day in pass pro drills against linebackers.


Lamar Miller had a good day running the ball as well and it is almost like he is seeing the plays develop better than last year. It may be early still but on some runs, he showed patience and allowed his blocking to take over. He had two runs that ate up good yardage due to some strong blocking up front.


Brennan Scarlett must have been waiting for pads today because he was flying around and laying hits on players. He is also showed some impressive skill in pass rushing. He has taken positive steps while playing on the edge and setting it against the run. His overall strength is noticeable when locking up with tight ends. He has refined his technique and looked solid in the first day of pads.


The offensive line struggled in the red zone but after they got warmed up, they started opening holes for Miller, Foreman, Blue, and Ervin to go to work. All four backs had runs where they moved the chains at some point in practice. Nick Martin was physical at the point of attack while Jeff Allen and Kendall Lamm were moving bodies when the play was headed their direction. The offensive line still has work to do but there was much better downhill action from the running backs to help the running game which aided the blocking.


As for the quarterbacks, Tom Savage continues to be accurate and take care of the football. It sounds like a broken record but he went to work with DeAndre Hopkins again. Hopkins was doing what he wanted in the middle of the field off of the arm of Savage who was hitting him in stride, allowing Hopkins to eat up yards. Savage also had a solid deep ball to Jaelen Strong that landed in the end zone where Strong leapt up over a defender to bring in it. Savage is throwing catchable balls and notably has had very few negative plays when he is on the field.


Deshaun Watson continues to develop day to day and rarely does he make the same mistake twice. He did a better job of driving the football to his targets when he was attacking the middle of the field, which he did not do well earlier in camp, although there are times when he gets locked onto a target and makes it easy for defenders to cover. His best ball went to Dres Anderson in the middle of the field where Watson waited for the route to develop and fit it in-between two defenders, hitting Anderson for a sliding catch. There will be highs and lows with Watson but the signs remain encouraging and the moment does not look too big for him.
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So Savage was mistake free, perfect all camp?

Interesting
 
Jadeveon is making me eat crow tacos. I gave up on the guy, and he's an unstoppable Force at camp so far.

I am sooo pumped for this defense, it may sound ridiculous, but I think we might have an all time great defensive season. So much talent on that side of the ball.
 
Just some notes: Running backs are all looking very good..toughest cuts(s) may come here. Blue might become a "possible trade for a 6th round pick."

Watson getting lots thrown at him even more than some expected. At one point O'Brien called for Watson to go on field & Oline coach signaled for first string line and O'Brien reportedly said "BS! let him play with backups on line" in order to see how Watson would do.

Friday was the first full-padded practice of the year for the Houston Texans, and coach Bill O’Brien had something he wanted to see.

He scripted a full-team, goal-line period and placed the ball at the 3-yard line.

“I know we have padded drills where we don’t bring guys to the ground,” O’Brien shouted as he stood at the line of scrimmage, sandwiched between both the offense and the defense. “This is not that. This is L-I-V-E.”
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...rst-lesson-nfl-speed-that-was-fast/521685001/


David Quessenberry: comment I heard "set aside the cancer..great story that alone..but he is looking really good and strong. Remains to be seen how he will do against (regular season opponent) but impressive so far." I think this is great especially with questions on Su'a Filo's knee.

TE Stephen Anderson has competition with Zach Conque looking good early.
 
Some info on July 17th pick up FA Devin Street
Street, 26, is a former fifth-round pick of the Cowboys back in 2014. He spent just over two years in Dallas before he was among their final roster cuts coming out of the preseason.

The Patriots signed Street to their practice squad at the start of last season but he lasted just a few weeks in New England. The Colts later added him to their active roster before cutting him loose shortly after this year’s draft.

The Patriots claimed him off of waivers a few months before cutting him loose soon after. Street caught on with the Jets in early June, but was waived on Wednesday to make room for WR Lucky Whitehead.

In 2016, Street appeared in five games and caught one pass for 20 yards receiving and no touchdowns for the Colts. http://nfltraderumors.co/texans-claim-wr-devin-street-off-waivers-jets/

From Our Lads 2014 on Street from University of Pittsburgh:
2014 Guide: What Ourlads' NFL Scouting Services said about Devin Street: Pittsburgh, 6027 198 4.55. Three-year starter who concluded his career as the all-time leading receiver in Panther history by corralling 202 passes. Elected a senior team captain. A fluid athlete who is a big productive target. Doesn’t wait on the ball. Reaches and extends for the ball at its highest point. May be a slot receiver only. Struggles at getting off press coverage. Needs more upper and lower body strength. A developing size and speed prospect. 2013 stats: 51-854, 16.7 ypr, 7 TD. OSR:17/46. Fifth/sixth round. (A-33 3/8, H-9 1/4, VJ-37, SS-4.01).
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From SB Nation battle red blog from day one John Harris:
on Hopkins During 1-on-1s, he made a diving catch for a touchdown near the facility on a beautiful deep throw from Tom Savage. The great part about it, though, was that Hop put a double move on the corner and lost him. After throwing the deep ball short a few times on Wednesday, Savage threw it as far as he could to the back end of the field. Hopkins caught it. Later in team drills, Savage threw backshoulder into a crowded space to Hopkins. 10 caught it. He threw a backshoulder in the end zone. Hopkins caught it. Deshaun Watson threw a fade into the far corner of the end zone. Hopkins caught it...then toe tapped for the score. It was reminiscent of what Hopkins did in 2015 when he caught everything in sight and showed that he was the no doubt, best player on the field

on Braxton Miller:"Miller’s trajectory is swinging way up. His route running and ability to get separation are without peer in this camp. He will completely lose guys trying to cover him and get yards of separation. He’s not thinking about it and it’s not slower than it needs to be. The timing is nearly perfect and will only get better.Wide receiver Braxton Miller looked really good, in my opinion. I saw a couple of his reps in 1-on-1s and he burned a defensive back on a deep ball that was under thrown, but later, he ran an inside route and left the cover guy yards behind him. If he can get separation and the ball finds his hands, whooo, that’s going to be fun to watch. The deep route is the one that stood out because we’ve all assumed that he’s going to be the slot receiving option on this team. However, if he can get down the field like that, it’s going to be a major plus."
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so far..so good
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badboy said:
Blue might become a "possible trade for a 6th round pick."
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I can't see that.
MAYBE if a team has multiple injuries at the position, but there are lots of guys that can bring what Blue brings. If Blue is cut I can see him being out of the league

I'm not sure that the Texans are going to cut him though.
 
banned1976 said:
... but I feel Watson won't be up to speed until at least the middle of the season.
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Based on what? Had you said this after the first preseason game, I wouldn't have thought anything of it.

As it is, every report has Watson checking off all the boxes on the field & off.

I try reading between the lines myself, but I haven't seen anything to make me think he won't be ready sooner rather than later.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Jadeveon is making me eat crow tacos. I gave up on the guy, and he's an unstoppable Force at camp so far.
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You don't hold a candle to how much I gave up on him, strictly from that microsurgery. I've never been so wrong, and have been so damn happy about it. Anytime from here on out when he makes a big play, he sticks a finger in my eye, and I deserve it.
 
Marcus said:
How would you like them to phrase it?
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Simple. Just quit using the phrase, as it has been reported by various sources that he repeatedly makes the same errors in judgement and execution. After all, he is a rookie who is expected to do so..........not an imaginary superstar who can do no wrong. I am not especially a big Watson fan. But give the kid the room to grow and make mistakes at this point in time, without stunting him by making excuses for him that are not necessary and without burdening him with unrealistic artificial pressures he should not have to deal with now.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Simple. Just quit using the phrase, as it has been reported by various sources that he repeatedly makes the same errors in judgement and execution. After all, he is a rookie who is expected to do so..........not an imaginary superstar who can do no wrong. I am not especially a big Watson fan. But give the kid the room to grow and make mistakes at this point in time, without stunting him by making excuses for him that are not necessary and without burdening him with unrealistic artificial pressures he should not have to deal with now.
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But the report was that he isn't making repeated errors. That 'rarely does he make the same mistake twice'. Unless I'm missing something about what you were getting at there, CND.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Simple. Just quit using the phrase, as it has been reported by various sources that he repeatedly makes the same errors in judgement and execution. After all, he is a rookie who is expected to do so..........not an imaginary superstar who can do no wrong. I am not especially a big Watson fan. But give the kid the room to grow and make mistakes at this point in time, without stunting him by making excuses for him that are not necessary and without burdening him with unrealistic artificial pressures he should not have to deal with now.
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Yup ... there's no way a rookie is not making errors in his 3rd practice . Then throw in he's a QB , that multiplies by 3 .
 
Looks like it rained all through practice today.........everyone got soaked. I'm not sure I like the fact that the players were exposed to what has the potential to be an environment not too kind to players coming off of injuries, not to mention the increase potential for new injuries before the season even begins. Evidently, the Greenbrier Sports Performance Center, which features two grass fields, one turf field and an indoor building that includes meeting rooms, weight rooms, training rooms, locker rooms and offices, indoor and outdoor tennis courts, indoor swimming facilities....................has no indoor football field. At least they don't rely on outhouses, and have invested in luxurious indoor bathroom facilities.

 
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Mollywhopper said:
But the report was that he isn't making repeated errors. That 'rarely does he make the same mistake twice'. Unless I'm missing something about what you were getting at there, CND.
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If you take time to review all the posts/reports coming out of TC, you would not be letting that statement slide either.
 
Hate to beat a dead horse but we heard that Brock "never makes the same mistake twice."

Brock even went as far as to say: "After I make a mistake, I learn from it and then that mistake never happens again."

We all know how that turned out.

That phrase has got to go.
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Hate to beat a dead horse but we heard that Brock "never makes the same mistake twice."

Brock even went as far as to say: "After I make a mistake, I learn from it and then that mistake never happens again."

We all know how that turned out.

That phrase has got to go.
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And so if Watson, or anyone else, does a good job of learning from their rookie mistakes and making corrections on them so as to make strides in their early development ... what would you have people report that as?
 
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