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2012 NFL Draft Day 3: Rounds 4-7

badboy said:
Appears to be a right tackle only with questionable motor. Why do we need a tackle over a guard? rather have

Zebrie Sanders:Would grade highly as an OG prospect per cbssports.com
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Would rather have Senio Kelemete OG Washington or Brandon Washington OG Miami (OT) if we are going to go G
 
Center in college, center in the pros. A bit high for a smaller player but he certainly latches on. Loves to latch on with strong hands, control, and mirror while sitting back in stance. Really slow when getting to second level on screens, still he latches on there to prevent from overrunning. Feet are slow in the pocket as well, why if he doesn't latch on with control he loses frequently. Don't see a real one plant anchor, gives more ground, but does use leverage to redirect and take to ground. Loses balance, overextends if misses on contact. If he loses leverage, DT has his way on choosing inside or outside lane. Reaction timing is slower when facing delayed blitzes.
 
vupac1 said:
Center??
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Someone to groom behind Myers...
possibly convert to G
...makes sense.

Edit:
What he brings: Jones is a four-year starter who doesn't excel in any one area, but he's a tough competitor who almost always finds a way to win.
How he fits: The right side of this OL need to be rebuilt and Jones fits nicely in their zone-blocking system. They did resign OC Chris Meyers, so Jones will probably be a swing guy backing up the OC and OG positions.
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Ben Jones seems to be a solid value at this point. I had him as the 10th best rated player still available at the time of the pick. Here's where some other sites had him:
CBS: 106th overall
NFLcom: 83 overall
Sports Illustrated: 101 overall
Scout.com:somewhere between 50 and 90 overall
NationalFootballPost.com: 42 overall
NFL DraftCountdown.com: 91 overall

If they liked him, it seems they picked him at about the right point in the draft.
 
rmartin65 said:
Yep, can't hate it. I dont know if he has future starter ability, but he should make for an excellent backup/spot starter.

Absolutely satisfied with this pick.
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Solid pick for a pure center who called the line plays at Georgia. I'd have preferred Phillip Blake.
 
Here are the top 25 left on my list (overall, not best for Texans):
  1. Bobby Massie OT Mississippi
  2. Ronnell Lewis OLB Oklahoma
  3. Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
  4. Jared Crick DE Nebraska
  5. Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
  6. Orson Charles TE Georgia
  7. Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
  8. Chris Polk RB Washington
  9. George Iloka FS Boise State
  10. Cam Johnson DE Virginia
  11. Billy Winn DE Boise State
  12. Zebrie Sanders OT Florida State
  13. Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
  14. Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
  15. Joe Adams WR Arkansas
  16. Brandon Mosley OT Auburn
  17. Robert Turbin RB Utah State
  18. Nigel Bradham OLB Florida State
  19. Josh Chapman DT Alabama
  20. James Brown OG Troy
  21. Juron Criner WR Arizona
  22. Ladarius Green TE La.-Lafayette
  23. Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
  24. Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
  25. Marvin Jones WR California
 
NCTexan said:
Does it seem like there are more names than normal falling this year?
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Not really. This happens every year.

And it's not because guys are "falling", it's because we're all basing our evaluations of these guys on either what we've seen of them or on other people's mocks. Our "estimation" of who's good and who's bad doesn't match (obviously) with the professionals.

This is why I think it's wrong to claim a guy was a reach or get ticked off about picking someone because we don't have all the evaluations on these guys. We're liking or disliking picks on faulty information about what their perceived values are.
 
I would've preferred a OT or Even a WR, but I am Fine with more o-line depth. now lets get us an NT and a WR with the next two Picks...
 
aussie_texan said:
surely thats O-line down now. no OT.
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Probably.

I said before the draft that I thought that the Texans might be perfectly happy with their tackle situation because of the development of Derek Newton along with Rashad Butler.

Brooks is big enough to stick in at the RT, although I don't think he'd be good enough in pass pro.
 
update looking for players i may have missed


1. Bobbie Massie OT Mississippi
2. Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington (X)
3. Jared Crick DE Nebraska (X)
4. Winn, Billy DT Boise St.
5.
6. *Ronnell Lewis DE Oklahoma (X/LB)
7. Senio Kelemete OG Washington
8. Brandon Washington OG Miami (OT)
9. Marvin Jones WR California
10. Greg Childs WR Arkansas
11. Markelle Martin FS Oklahoma State (X)
12. Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
13. Philip Blake C Baylor
14. Tommy Streeter WR Miami
15. Dwight Jones WR North Carolina
16. Chase Ford TE Miami
17. Ryan Miller OG Colorado
18. Orson Charles TE Georgia
19. Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
20. Ladarius Green TE Louisiana-Lafayette
21. Cam Johnson DE Virginia
22. Josh Chapman DT Alabama (X)
23. George Iloka FS Boise State
24. Juron Criner WR Arizona State (X)
25. Robert Turbin RB Utah State (X)
26. Ron Brooks CB LSU
27. J.R. Sweezy DT North Carolina State
28. Brandon Mosely OT Auburn
29. Marvin McNutt WR Iowa
30. Josh Norman CB Coastal Carolia
31. Tank Carder LB Texas Christian
32. Nate Potter G/T Boise State
33. Audie Cole LB North Carolina State
34. Asa Jackson CB Cal-Poly
35. James Hanna TE Oklahoma
36. Janzen Jackson FS McNeese State
37. Evan Rodriquez FB Temple
38. Lone Fangupa DT BYU
39. Kheeston Randall DT Texas
40. Rhett Ellison TE Southern California
41. David Molk C Michigan
42. Taylor Thompson TE Southern Methodist (DE)
43. Emmanual Acho LB Texas
44. Marquis Maze WR Alabama
45. Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona State (O)
46. DeQuan Menzie FS Alabama
47. Danny Trevathan LB Kentucky
48. Case Keenum QB Houston
49. William Vlachos C Alabama
50. Cody Johnson FB Texas
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Not really. This happens every year.

And it's not because guys are "falling", it's because we're all basing our evaluations of these guys on either what we've seen of them or on other people's mocks. Our "estimation" of who's good and who's bad doesn't match (obviously) with the professionals.

This is why I think it's wrong to claim a guy was a reach or get ticked off about picking someone because we don't have all the evaluations on these guys. We're liking or disliking picks on faulty information about what their perceived values are.
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That makes sense. Thanks! I haven't followed the draft this closely before so I'm just trying to figure out how normal it all is.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Not really. This happens every year.

And it's not because guys are "falling", it's because we're all basing our evaluations of these guys on either what we've seen of them or on other people's mocks. Our "estimation" of who's good and who's bad doesn't match (obviously) with the professionals.

This is why I think it's wrong to claim a guy was a reach or get ticked off about picking someone because we don't have all the evaluations on these guys. We're liking or disliking picks on faulty information about what their perceived values are.
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Thank you.
 
geeze Rich..stop with the Tebow ****

I know he is trying to be annoyingly funny and the annoying is working. the funny not so
 
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