2011 mock by Walter

[badboy]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_1.php

For those of us who scour the news and watch games for scouting info, I wanted to throw some info your way. Walter has us @ #23.
Houston Texans: Jared Crick, DT, Nebraska
The Texans had major problems at defensive tackle in 2009, but aside from drafting Earl Mitchell in the third round, they failed to address the position. They may fix things in the 2011 NFL Draft.

I'm interested in:
Free safety Duenta Williams from North Carolina
Center/G Mike Pouncey Florida
FS Blake Gideon Texas
QB Pat Devlin Delaware (I like Orslovky but just in case)

Check out comments in 2nd round about Duane Brown
Houston Texans: Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
If Duane Brown doesn't improve his play this season, the Texans may search for some left tackle competition in the 2011 NFL Draft.

 

[rmartin65]

Nice find. Walter generally has some good stuff going on.

I love Crick as a prospect, but I dont know if I want him for the Texans yet. Deunta Williams however, is my boy. He has been on my radar since midway last year, and is my number 1 target for the Texans.

As a converted receiver, he has great hands, and knows what to do with the ball. Great size at 6'2" 215 ish, speed around the mid 4.4s, and off the charts agility. He also has been starting the last couple years, I think this will be his 3rd year as a starter at FS. I do worry about his tackling though, that is an area I would like to see some improvement in.

 

[badboy]

Nice find. Walter generally has some good stuff going on.

I love Crick as a prospect, but I dont know if I want him for the Texans yet. Deunta Williams however, is my boy. He has been on my radar since midway last year, and is my number 1 target for the Texans.

As a converted receiver, he has great hands, and knows what to do with the ball. Great size at 6'2" 215 ish, speed around the mid 4.4s, and off the charts agility. He also has been starting the last couple years, I think this will be his 3rd year as a starter at FS. I do worry about his tackling though, that is an area I would like to see some improvement in.

I know nothing about Crick but will try to watch him. Hopefully we will not have to draft a DT in top 4. I remember from our emails that D. Williams is on your radar. You know tackling is usually an issue fro cover type CBs and FS. He definitely has the size to be a good tackler. Does he remind you of Taylor Mays any? I know he is lighter than Mays.

 

[rmartin65]

I know nothing about Crick but will try to watch him. Hopefully we will not have to draft a DT in top 4. I remember from our emails that D. Williams is on your radar. You know tackling is usually an issue fro cover type CBs and FS. He definitely has the size to be a good tackler. Does he remind you of Taylor Mays any? I know he is lighter than Mays.

He definitely does have the right size to be a great tackler, thats for sure. I think its more of needing better technique right now, we will see when the season starts. I plan on watching UNC at least 4 times next year, if thats possible. So much talent is on that D.

I would not compare him to Mays at all. Mays is like a linebacker playing safety. He has the speed, but I dont like him in coverage. Iffy hands, and would rather knock someone out than make a clean tackle. Williams goes for the wrap up, and I dont see him really run over people that much. He is much more of a prototypical FS.

 

[badboy]

He definitely does have the right size to be a great tackler, thats for sure. I think its more of needing better technique right now, we will see when the season starts. I plan on watching UNC at least 4 times next year, if thats possible. So much talent is on that D.

I would not compare him to Mays at all. Mays is like a linebacker playing safety. He has the speed, but I dont like him in coverage. Iffy hands, and would rather knock someone out than make a clean tackle. Williams goes for the wrap up, and I dont see him really run over people that much. He is much more of a prototypical FS.

Thanks, good ino. I start worrying when a FS goes over 210lbs. Big favor but if you could give me a heads up when North Carolina plays, I'd appreciate it as I do not usually focus much on their games. Do you agree if 2010 draft picks develop as supposed to that FS is #1 need? I am not sure Mitchell will start even if Okoye makes little progress in TC as I think O. is liked for his run defense.

 

[rmartin65]

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Thanks, good ino. I start worrying when a FS goes over 210lbs. Big favor but if you could give me a heads up when North Carolina plays, I'd appreciate it as I do not usually focus much on their games. Do you agree if 2010 draft picks develop as supposed to that FS is #1 need? I am not sure Mitchell will start even if Okoye makes little progress in TC as I think O. is liked for his run defense.

Will do. I actually think everyone should try to catch one UNC game, if only for their defense alone. DE Robert Quinn has top 5 talent. DT Marvin Austin, also top 5 talent. DT Tydreke Powell is a 4-6th rounder at this point. OLB Sturdivant is a borderline first rounder, as is OLB/ILB Bruce Carter. Both CBs, Kendric Burney and Charles Brown, have 3rd-5th round grades. And as discussed, FS Deunta Williams is a first round prospect.

As far as games go, Sept. 4th vs LSU is the marquee match up, with Sept 18th (vs. Georgia Tech), Oct. 9th (vs. Clemson), Oct. 23rd (@ Miami), and Nov. 13th (vs. Virginia Tech) are all worthwhile games to watch.

And I agree absolutely, if the picks from the past 2 drafts progress as the FO thinks they will, FS becomes the number 1 need, in my opinion, followed by Center.

 

[beerlover]

Stephen Paea is my choice right now straight up. It's Amobi's contract year so I expect him to produce, but could be in a similar situation as Dunta Robinson was & the market dictates more than the Texans think he's worth.

Paea is a poor mans Ndamukong Suh. pair him with Earl on the inside, Mario, Smith & Barwin on the corners you might really have something that =

 

[SteveSlaton20]

Eh, I'd rather us go for a FS first. And I don't know about Jared Crick, I doubt he does as good w/o Suh. And being a Longhorn fan, I really don't want us to get Gideon. The drop against Tech has nothing to do with it, he's really not that good. If you watch the NCG from last year, all the big runs were because of him, he's terrible at angles. I don't see him getting drafted in the 2nd round, and I wouldn't be surprise to see him benched. IIRC, DeAndre tied w/ ET for interceptions last year, I would really love for us to get him in the 1st. What about Rahim Moore? He had the most interceptions last year.

 

[rmartin65]

Stephen Paea is my choice right now straight up. It's Amobi's contract year so I expect him to produce, but could be in a similar situation as Dunta Robinson was & the market dictates more than the Texans think he's worth.

Paea is a poor mans Ndamukong Suh. pair him with Earl on the inside, Mario, Smith & Barwin on the corners you might really have something that =

Man, we are on the same wavelength here. Paea is my number 2 at the moment. I have Williams ranked slightly higher on my wishlist because of need. I think there is a better chance that one or two of the DTs step up, than one of the free safeties step up.

Eh, I'd rather us go for a FS first. And I don't know about Jared Crick, I doubt he does as good w/o Suh. And being a Longhorn fan, I really don't want us to get Gideon. The drop against Tech has nothing to do with it, he's really not that good. If you watch the NCG from last year, all the big runs were because of him, he's terrible at angles. I don't see him getting drafted in the 2nd round, and I wouldn't be surprise to see him benched. IIRC, DeAndre tied w/ ET for interceptions last year, I would really love for us to get him in the 1st. What about Rahim Moore? He had the most interceptions last year.

Crick has a lot of talent, and fantastic size. 6'6", 290 lbs, he could easily gain another 10-20 without losing much speed. But it will be interesting to see how he copes with being "the guy", and facing all the double teams. Remember, at this point in the scouting game, we are projecting big time. I will be surprised if 5 of my top 32 at this point go in the first round. The draft is just so fluid.

DeAndre McDaniel is a stud. As a sophomore he was a OLB, and as a junior he was moved to SS, where he did not disappoint. 98 tackles and 8 picks. He has great talent, probably top 15, but he was arrested for punching his girlfriend (in the face) and pushing her down the stairs. I am going to pass on him, just like I am passing on the next guy you mentioned.

Rahim Moore had a great season, pulling in ten picks to go along with his 45 tackles. However, at just 195 lbs (on a 6'1" frame), he is very light, which makes me seriously concerned about his his NFL potential. He needs to gain at least 10 pounds, keeping all of his speed. He would be best served staying for another year.

 

[badboy]

Will do. I actually think everyone should try to catch one UNC game, if only for their defense alone. DE Robert Quinn has top 5 talent. DT Marvin Austin, also top 5 talent. DT Tydreke Powell is a 4-6th rounder at this point. OLB Sturdivant is a borderline first rounder, as is OLB/ILB Bruce Carter. Both CBs, Kendric Burney and Charles Brown, have 3rd-5th round grades. And as discussed, FS Deunta Williams is a first round prospect.

As far as games go, Sept. 4th vs LSU is the marquee match up, with Sept 18th (vs. Georgia Tech), Oct. 9th (vs. Clemson), Oct. 23rd (@ Miami), and Nov. 13th (vs. Virginia Tech) are all worthwhile games to watch.

And I agree absolutely, if the picks from the past 2 drafts progress as the FO thinks they will, FS becomes the number 1 need, in my opinion, followed by Center.

Thanks. I'm aware of Marvin Austin and agree with your eval. Those are some great games to anticipate. Hopefully other posters will watch and we can have great debates when you & I and Beerlover do our next series of mocks. Here is my concern with Pouncey as it was last draft with his brother. I think he will be gone by our 2nd round selection and other needs will keep us from drafting him in first.

 

[badboy]

Eh, I'd rather us go for a FS first. And I don't know about Jared Crick, I doubt he does as good w/o Suh. And being a Longhorn fan, I really don't want us to get Gideon. The drop against Tech has nothing to do with it, he's really not that good. If you watch the NCG from last year, all the big runs were because of him, he's terrible at angles. I don't see him getting drafted in the 2nd round, and I wouldn't be surprise to see him benched. IIRC, DeAndre tied w/ ET for interceptions last year, I would really love for us to get him in the 1st. What about Rahim Moore? He had the most interceptions last year.

Walter has him going to Dallas. I can't remember but something makes me think I saw something negative about him but will hold judgement until I see more of him. Right now, I agree with 65 about Duente FS

 

[badboy]

Man, we are on the same wavelength here. Paea is my number 2 at the moment. I have Williams ranked slightly higher on my wishlist because of need. I think there is a better chance that one or two of the DTs step up, than one of the free safeties step up.



Crick has a lot of talent, and fantastic size. 6'6", 290 lbs, he could easily gain another 10-20 without losing much speed. But it will be interesting to see how he copes with being "the guy", and facing all the double teams. Remember, at this point in the scouting game, we are projecting big time. I will be surprised if 5 of my top 32 at this point go in the first round. The draft is just so fluid.

DeAndre McDaniel is a stud. As a sophomore he was a OLB, and as a junior he was moved to SS, where he did not disappoint. 98 tackles and 8 picks. He has great talent, probably top 15, but he was arrested for punching his girlfriend (in the face) and pushing her down the stairs. I am going to pass on him, just like I am passing on the next guy you mentioned.

Rahim Moore had a great season, pulling in ten picks to go along with his 45 tackles. However, at just 195 lbs (on a 6'1" frame), he is very light, which makes me seriously concerned about his his NFL potential. He needs to gain at least 10 pounds, keeping all of his speed. He would be best served staying for another year.

Exactly, as our detractors have pointed out ad nauseum, players both pro and college get injured or a pro may be cut that changes everything. We only do this to "feed the need". Also agree on McDaniel as I don't want him on team. It may have been Rahim's build that was giving me that "twinge" I could not remember. He could be great but would take a pounding in NFL, especially on a team like Texans where he would be expected to come up to tackle.

 

[painekiller]

Here is my concern with Pouncey as it was last draft with his brother. I think he will be gone by our 2nd round selection and other needs will keep us from drafting him in first.

I was wondering what you think is a bigger need then the interior of the OL?

I can see FS (Wilson), OC (Myers) OG (Studdard), DT (Cody), then we are looking at upgrading the depth. We have young guys who maybe future players but it's to early to count on them, ie Nolan, Shelly Smith, and McManis, plus Caldwell has yet to show his ultimate value.

In the 1st round of Walters, I would be looking at the FS available over Crick. And like you you I do not think Pouncey makes our 2nd round pick. I am going to watch Kris O'Dowd from USC. He seems to be a solid pick.

 

[Rey]

Whether Duane Brown improves or not, I'd like to see us take another solid player that can play that position.

 

[badboy]

I was wondering what you think is a bigger need then the interior of the OL?

I can see FS (Wilson), OC (Myers) OG (Studdard), DT (Cody), then we are looking at upgrading the depth. We have young guys who maybe future players but it's to early to count on them, ie Nolan, Shelly Smith, and McManis, plus Caldwell has yet to show his ultimate value.

In the 1st round of Walters, I would be looking at the FS available over Crick. And like you you I do not think Pouncey makes our 2nd round pick. I am going to watch Kris O'Dowd from USC. He seems to be a solid pick.

I think the play of Smith at either guard or center eliminates the need for a draft pick for OLine until 4th. If I could get a solid FS in 2nd I would draft Pouncey. If Wilson has a great HEALTHY season or one of the others step up, I'd go Pouncey. Despite Kube's fascination with Studdard, he is weak link imo. In a perfect world i guess it would be Brown, Pouncey, Smith, Caldwell and Winston.

 

[Texecutioner]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_1.php

For those of us who scour the news and watch games for scouting info, I wanted to throw some info your way. Walter has us @ #23.
Houston Texans: Jared Crick, DT, Nebraska
The Texans had major problems at defensive tackle in 2009, but aside from drafting Earl Mitchell in the third round, they failed to address the position. They may fix things in the 2011 NFL Draft.

I'm interested in:
Free safety Duenta Williams from North Carolina
Center/G Mike Pouncey Florida
FS Blake Gideon Texas
QB Pat Devlin Delaware (I like Orslovky but just in case)

Check out comments in 2nd round about Duane Brown
Houston Texans: Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
If Duane Brown doesn't improve his play this season, the Texans may search for some left tackle competition in the 2011 NFL Draft.

Why in the world would you want Blake Gideon? He's the one glaring weakness on the Longhorns defense. He's not even going to get picked up in the draft at all. No way he'll be an NFL player. I don't even think he'll be Senior next season either.

 

[Dutchrudder]

Is there any chance that the Texans would target Texas A&M's Von Miller? I know he's an OLB, but couldn't they move him to the weakside and have a crazy good pass rush from both sides?

 

[badboy]

Why in the world would you want Blake Gideon? He's the one glaring weakness on the Longhorns defense. He's not even going to get picked up in the draft at all. No way he'll be an NFL player. I don't even think he'll be Senior next season either.

Did not say i wanted him but interested as he plays a position of need and I enjoy wathing UT games. BL,65 and I do not watch games to always rule a player into the mix but to often rule them out.

As a true freshman he started 13 games and was 3rd on team in tackles and had shoulder surgery last season. Many think he puts himself in right spot on field and keys well on QB. We will see.

 

[bah007]

I like Gideon because he is a smart player and a hard worker. But I don't think he projects well in the NFL.

He is kind of a tweener at safety. Doesn't have the range to play FS and doesn't tackle well enough to play SS.

He might make a career out of special teams work and maybe as depth but I don't think he will ever be a contributor as a starting safety.

I'm a big fan of the UNC safety though. He has some serious ball skills. If he can improve his tackling a little bit then he will be looking real good.

 

[badboy]

I like Gideon because he is a smart player and a hard worker. But I don't think he projects well in the NFL.

He is kind of a tweener at safety. Doesn't have the range to play FS and doesn't tackle well enough to play SS.

He might make a career out of special teams work and maybe as depth but I don't think he will ever be a contributor as a starting safety.

I'm a big fan of the UNC safety though. He has some serious ball skills. If he can improve his tackling a little bit then he will be looking real good.

Thanks. Your comments give me something to watch for this season. If all goes well with our current roster and group of draftees, I am hoping a very good FS will be available LATE in first when we select.

 

[beerlover]

Thanks. Your comments give me something to watch for this season. If all goes well with our current roster and group of draftees, I am hoping a very good FS will be available LATE in first when we select.

if Texans select LATE in 1st rd. I doubt it's going to be a FS. Wilson should finally be healthy & Barber pushes him with Nolan providing quality depth.

looking for a big time Center who can hold the point of attack against 3-4 nose tackles, see Mike Pouncey, Florida

 

[rmartin65]

Beerlover, I hope you are right in thinking that FS becomes a non-need position. It would be great to fill that hole at center. I shudder when I look at the schedule, seeing who might be going up against Meyers. However, I am not as confident as you are. I still think that at some point during the draft, the Texans have to pick up a FS. Even if Barber or Nolan pan out (I doubt both will, but I hope I am wrong), there still needs to be a depth pick as Wilson is growing old.

 

[JB]

Beerlover, I hope you are right in thinking that FS becomes a non-need position. It would be great to fill that hole at center. I shudder when I look at the schedule, seeing who might be going up against Meyers. However, I am not as confident as you are. I still think that at some point during the draft, the Texans have to pick up a FS. Even if Barber or Nolan pan out (I doubt both will, but I hope I am wrong), there still needs to be a depth pick as Wilson is growing old.

I'm just hoping they pan out so it does not have to be a first or second round pick unless that is the best available player.

 

[Texan4Ever]

I like the defensive prospects in the 2011 Draft which is good for the Texans because thats where I think we need to continue to add talent. For me, players like Rahim Moore from UCLA and Ras-I-Dowling from Virginia, I think either one of these guys will make a solid addition to the defensive secondary.

 

[badboy]

I like the defensive prospects in the 2011 Draft which is good for the Texans because thats where I think we need to continue to add talent. For me, players like Rahim Moore from UCLA and Ras-I-Dowling from Virginia, I think either one of these guys will make a solid addition to the defensive secondary.

dang I forgot about this thread, sorry. I am hopeful like Beerlover on FS but agree with 65 that until proven otherwise during this season, FS remains a need. However, if the 2011 draft is as deep as the last one, we should be able to get a solid safety in 2nd round and look at Pouncey in first.

 

[rmartin65]

dang I forgot about this thread, sorry. I am hopeful like Beerlover on FS but agree with 65 that until proven otherwise during this season, FS remains a need. However, if the 2011 draft is as deep as the last one, we should be able to get a solid safety in 2nd round and look at Pouncey in first.

Hmm, I think I am still on FS in the first, OC in the second. I think Pouncey is being rated higher than he should be due to name recognition with his brother. He is a second round prospect in my eyes.

 

[badboy]

Hmm, I think I am still on FS in the first, OC in the second. I think Pouncey is being rated higher than he should be due to name recognition with his brother. He is a second round prospect in my eyes.

I think 2nd but gone by our pick. I think he was rated higher at center than his brother if I remember correctly. I did not watch either until late in season. I still think FS biggest need but hoefully can get one in 2nd. I will research and think about this more after I complete my wheeling and dealing in basketball forum. Who do you have available late in 2nd at center and will that person beat out Smith in 2 years?

 

[rmartin65]

I think 2nd but gone by our pick. I think he was rated higher at center than his brother if I remember correctly. I did not watch either until late in season. I still think FS biggest need but hoefully can get one in 2nd. I will research and think about this more after I complete my wheeling and dealing in basketball forum. Who do you have available late in 2nd at center and will that person beat out Smith in 2 years?

Smith in 2 years? Do you mean Meyers, or are we projecting someone else takes the center spot?

Was Mike Pouncey really rated higher as a center? Thats strange, because his brother played center last year, while Mike played guard. And not to the tune of a 2nd round pick, 3rd/4th is what I have.

As far as centers in the 2nd, I dont know. TCUs Jake Kirkpatrick is a player I intend to watch this year, but I have him as a 5th now. Stanford's Chase Beeler did well last year, helping Gerhart have his monster season. But still, not a second rounder. Ohio State's Mike Brewster is another good one to watch, but I am still trying to figure out if he is a guard or center at the next level. I also really like Arizona's Baxter and Georgia Tech's Sean Bedford.

As you see, tons of names, and thats only the tip of the iceberg. I plan to focus on this position a lot more than I did last year.

 

[beerlover]

I think 2nd but gone by our pick. I think he was rated higher at center than his brother if I remember correctly. I did not watch either until late in season. I still think FS biggest need but hoefully can get one in 2nd. I will research and think about this more after I complete my wheeling and dealing in basketball forum. Who do you have available late in 2nd at center and will that person beat out Smith in 2 years?

I'm still more worried about the OL than the secondary. lets just compare the off-season aquistions. The Texans spent

Secondary:
1st rd pick - Kareem Jackson
5th rd pick - Sherrick McManis

OL/C:
6th rd pick - Shelly Smith
FA - Wade Smith (not listed on depth chart?)

I like how they built both areas to have lots of versatility, but the upside @ Center position is far less compelling than what they have now @ FS. Myers is our stating center, jouneymen (except in Kubiaks system) with Chris White & Wade Smith backing him up. Eugene Wilson is bound to bounce back healthy but will be in a dogfight anyway to hold off Barber, throw in Nolan & possibly even McManis who looks natural for FS you have great competition, depth & talent.

I know its early to make this kind of call (before training camp) but I'm saying Pouncey is an excellent prospect to add next off season.

 

[badboy]

Smith in 2 years? Do you mean Meyers, or are we projecting someone else takes the center spot?

Was Mike Pouncey really rated higher as a center? Thats strange, because his brother played center last year, while Mike played guard. And not to the tune of a 2nd round pick, 3rd/4th is what I have.

As far as centers in the 2nd, I dont know. TCUs Jake Kirkpatrick is a player I intend to watch this year, but I have him as a 5th now. Stanford's Chase Beeler did well last year, helping Gerhart have his monster season. But still, not a second rounder. Ohio State's Mike Brewster is another good one to watch, but I am still trying to figure out if he is a guard or center at the next level. I also really like Arizona's Baxter and Georgia Tech's Sean Bedford.

As you see, tons of names, and thats only the tip of the iceberg. I plan to focus on this position a lot more than I did last year.

I have Smith beating out Studdard but rumors I hear is Kubes will not replace Studdard. I think Smith beats out Myers. My question is what late 2nd round center will beat out whoever is our starter by 2012 season?

Concerning the Pounceys: Maurkice under investigation for allegedly accepting $100,000 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5398414

Mike is #2 center on NFLDraftscout behind Wisniewski and further research show Maurkice rated higher at center. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=71387&draftyear=2011&genpos=C

The play of Oline will shape my mock for 2011 as hopefully center will not be a problem area. The offense was pretty good last season and the bevy (yeah, I said it) of RBs is going to be awesome!

 

[rmartin65]

I have Smith beating out Studdard but rumors I hear is Kubes will not replace Studdard. I think Smith beats out Myers. My question is what late 2nd round center will beat out whoever is our starter by 2012 season?

Concerning the Pounceys: Maurkice under investigation for allegedly accepting $100,000 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5398414

Mike is #2 center on NFLDraftscout behind Wisniewski and further research show Maurkice rated higher at center. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=71387&draftyear=2011&genpos=C

The play of Oline will shape my mock for 2011 as hopefully center will not be a problem area. The offense was pretty good last season and the bevy (yeah, I said it) of RBs is going to be awesome!

Hmm, I could see it happening. However, Kubiak seems very happy with what we have at center. We have not brought in a serious threat to him. Guard at least seems a contested position.

By the way, Walter has a new mock up, with us taking DeAndre McDaniel. I like the pick, as he has Deunta Williams picked 3 picks earlier.

 

[badboy]

Hmm, I could see it happening. However, Kubiak seems very happy with what we have at center. We have not brought in a serious threat to him. Guard at least seems a contested position.

By the way, Walter has a new mock up, with us taking DeAndre McDaniel. I like the pick, as he has Deunta Williams picked 3 picks earlier.

Man. if they are paying Smith to back up that may not have been a good signing. Thanks for heads up on Walter. I saw it but was not able to review. Will take a peek now.

 

[nero THE zero]

Jeez, he has us picking 29th now

Is it me or is this draft looking incredibly potentially deep if some of the younger guys declare?

 

[badboy]

Jeez, he has us picking 29th now

Is it me or is this draft looking incredibly potentially deep if some of the younger guys declare?

I was wondering if anyone would notice where we were selecting. I hope he is correct. Going into the season(college and pro) my focus will be on free safety as I continue to think that is our major weakness. Hopefully, Wilson will have a healthy season and at least one of the candidates behind him will step up. I would like to see Quin and Bryce McCain get some time there during TC but I doubt that will occur. Of the potentials at FS I don't see much in any but the top 6 or 7. I hope we can resolve FS with the 2nd allowing us to go best player in first.

 

[nero THE zero]

With Luck, Locker, Williams, Ingram, Floyd, Green, and Baldwin all potentially declaring for this draft, I can't imagine passing on one if any fall to us.

Talk about a number of offensive weapons.

 

[badboy]

Hmm, I could see it happening. However, Kubiak seems very happy with what we have at center. We have not brought in a serious threat to him. Guard at least seems a contested position.

By the way, Walter has a new mock up, with us taking DeAndre McDaniel. I like the pick, as he has Deunta Williams picked 3 picks earlier.

McDaniel arrested for assault in 2008. In June 2008, McDaniel was arrested for assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature after an argument with his girlfriend. McDaniel reportedly punched his girlfriend in the head and then pushed her down a flight of stairs.[2]

Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeAndre_McDaniel
http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/clemson/11752

Now the other side by alleged witness :http://www.independentmail.com/blogs/greg-wallace/2008/jun/26/clemson_DeAndre_McDaniel_arrest/

And then anger management http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2008/aug/11/clemsons_mcdaniel_agrees_pretrial_intervention_ass/


Anyone think McNair would allow him to be drafted?

 

[YoungTexanFan]

So I'm back on the board for a while.

To start with, I was really impressed with Crick last season with his ability to shoot the B gap on a hard slant across from Suh. With that said, he was still next to Suh. I will hold judgement on Crick until I see him play well without Suh.

If we're drafting anywhere close to where Walters has us, we aren't going to find a FS without many holes (Berry, Sean Taylor).

I don't want us to draft any more DT's. I know our guys haven't produced like they should, but at some point I stop trusting our talent evaluators at that position. It's a tough position to project because of the physical requirements. As far as Austin goes, I love the dude, but he's not a top 5 guy. He hasn't produced like he's capable of, and that worries me. He hasn't played up to his potential in his 3 years, so regardless of his ceiling, he's just another underachiever for now.

I'm against RB's in the first round unless they are AD types. Ryan Matthews was not and I am very glad we didn't wind up with him.

OL is a whole different beast. I still think Brown is best suited inside at LG, and I think drafting a premier LT would upgrade two positions. I'll be interested to see if Kubiak let's his personal interest go in the spirit of fair competition with the RG position. I still have hope that Caldwell will be able to transition to OC.

We still don't have much in the way of a speed end. Smith was an ok signing last year, and he's a solid NFL DE/DT by all means, but we don't need a DE/DT playing outside. We need a DE/OLB type. A Jerry Hughes or Dummerville type. Though granted, every team needs that type of player.

I'm still very skeptical about our secondary as a whole, we have bodies, but we don't have that much talent, and we have even less proven talent. When Barber is being considered for PT, our team has a problem. I'd like to see Nolan pan out, but I honestly don't ever see it happening. I'm also incredibly nervous about our sophomore slump for CBs.

 

[Goldensilence]

So I'm back on the board for a while.

To start with, I was really impressed with Crick last season with his ability to shoot the B gap on a hard slant across from Suh. With that said, he was still next to Suh. I will hold judgement on Crick until I see him play well without Suh.

If we're drafting anywhere close to where Walters has us, we aren't going to find a FS without many holes (Berry, Sean Taylor).

I don't want us to draft any more DT's. I know our guys haven't produced like they should, but at some point I stop trusting our talent evaluators at that position. It's a tough position to project because of the physical requirements. As far as Austin goes, I love the dude, but he's not a top 5 guy. He hasn't produced like he's capable of, and that worries me. He hasn't played up to his potential in his 3 years, so regardless of his ceiling, he's just another underachiever for now.

I'm against RB's in the first round unless they are AD types. Ryan Matthews was not and I am very glad we didn't wind up with him.

OL is a whole different beast. I still think Brown is best suited inside at LG, and I think drafting a premier LT would upgrade two positions. I'll be interested to see if Kubiak let's his personal interest go in the spirit of fair competition with the RG position. I still have hope that Caldwell will be able to transition to OC.

We still don't have much in the way of a speed end. Smith was an ok signing last year, and he's a solid NFL DE/DT by all means, but we don't need a DE/DT playing outside. We need a DE/OLB type. A Jerry Hughes or Dummerville type. Though granted, every team needs that type of player.

I'm still very skeptical about our secondary as a whole, we have bodies, but we don't have that much talent, and we have even less proven talent. When Barber is being considered for PT, our team has a problem. I'd like to see Nolan pan out, but I honestly don't ever see it happening. I'm also incredibly nervous about our sophomore slump for CBs.

Probably one of the more honest assessments of the team that I've seen lately. I agree with it.

Crick might be good, but I don't trust drafting a DT in the first, not with this staff.

Doubt we see a RB taken high next year, unless someone ridiculous falls in our lap.

Wasn't a big draft Barwin fan last year, but I do hope he does turn into that LB/DE pass rusher you talk about as well.

I'm also nervous about our secondary. We're counting on an awful lot of young unproven guys at CB. Quinn had a nice rookie campaign, it's going to be a matter of him at least repeating if we're going to be ok at CB.

Love Pollard, but it's real shaky past him far as our safeties go. Wilson can't keep healthy, and even then he's a lower tier NFL starter. I'm still not overtly impressed by Barber. I, like you, would love it if Nolan pans out. Not counting on it though.

I would love to see Caldwell worked at Center, but it doesn't look like that's where the staff wants him. It will be interesting to see where Smith gets reps as camp moves on at LG, C, or possibly even RG.

 

[Mari-OWNED!]

I like the defensive prospects in the 2011 Draft which is good for the Texans because thats where I think we need to continue to add talent. For me, players like Rahim Moore from UCLA and Ras-I-Dowling from Virginia, I think either one of these guys will make a solid addition to the defensive secondary.

I'm a big fan of Dowling. He has first round talent that can play cornerback or free safety.

 

[rmartin65]

Dowling is a FS to me. I would not draft him in the first as a corner. I dont like his hips, they seem a little stiff.

 

[awtysst]

Dowling is a FS to me. I would not draft him in the first as a corner. I dont like his hips, they seem a little stiff.

Agreed. I don't know what the Texans should be targeting as we are still in camp. FS may be an area to consider, but maybe my boy Troy Nolan steps up and grabs the spot. Perhaps even Moulden jumps into the crowded DB situation.

 

[beerlover]

Agreed. I don't know what the Texans should be targeting as we are still in camp. FS may be an area to consider, but maybe my boy Troy Nolan steps up and grabs the spot. Perhaps even Moulden jumps into the crowded DB situation.

Nolan doesn't have the measureables, plus he's missed a year. his strength is his playmaking ability which is what the Texans need. I know they drafted McManis to play cb but I sure think he has the ability to play FS.

 

[awtysst]

Nolan doesn't have the measureables, plus he's missed a year. his strength is his playmaking ability which is what the Texans need. I know they drafted McManis to play cb but I sure think he has the ability to play FS.

Possibly. Moulden may also make a decent option at FS. At this point (imo) its better to spend time learning about prospects rather than forecasting and predicting positions of need. Perhaps we find another discarded diamond (a la Pollard) during the year?

 

[beerlover]

Possibly. Moulden may also make a decent option at FS. At this point (imo) its better to spend time learning about prospects rather than forecasting and predicting positions of need. Perhaps we find another discarded diamond (a la Pollard) during the year?

Molden is a special team player, gunner more specificly. He has good cover cb skills (similar to Reeves) can mirror with good change of direction but if you can't locate the ball chances are your not a ballhawk safety, go ahead prove me wrong but I'm pretty sure they missed on him, anything he does now is gravy. McManis is another story, he was a zone corner @ Northwestern which translates to nickle or FS in the NFL. 9 interceptions, 30 break-ups & 201 tackles means he is strong in run support & can defend/read routes & break them down.

 

[Goldensilence]

Molden is a special team player, gunner more specificly. He has good cover cb skills (similar to Reeves) can mirror with good change of direction but if you can't locate the ball chances are your not a ballhawk safety, go ahead prove me wrong but I'm pretty sure they missed on him, anything he does now is gravy. McManis is another story, he was a zone corner @ Northwestern which translates to nickle or FS in the NFL. 9 interceptions, 30 break-ups & 201 tackles means he is strong in run support & can defend/read routes & break them down.

IMO the way we look at CB right now it wouldn't surprise me to see one of the bottom guys there to get a look at FS if they can't hold a spot down at CB. Far as physical tools Molden and McMannis look like they have the best shot to move successfully.

 

[badboy]

Dowling is a FS to me. I would not draft him in the first as a corner. I dont like his hips, they seem a little stiff.

When I watched Dowling last season, I kept mentally pushing him to FS as he definitely has size and can run with WR but the following link indicates his hips are all right. I will watch him as much as possible. Hopefully he will develop more this seaon with his skill set. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...igher-uvas-ras-i-dowling-or-vts-ryan-williams

40 Time 4.52 http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Ras-I-Dowling.html

 

[TexansFanatic]

Why in the world would you want Blake Gideon? He's the one glaring weakness on the Longhorns defense. He's not even going to get picked up in the draft at all. No way he'll be an NFL player. I don't even think he'll be Senior next season either.

Texas places three on Thorpe Watch List
Posted on: August 2, 2010 11:03 am

Texas placed three players on the Jim Thorpe Award preseason watch list, including safety Blake Gideon, who recorded six interceptions as a sophomore last season. Cornerbacks Curtis Brown and Aaron Williams also made the list of 35.

 

[badboy]

Guys we have all discussed for years taking a CB and switching to free safety but the Texans just don't do that. They may take a center like Caldwell & move him to RG nut if they were going to move a corner why not Quin who was rated a the 7th best FS in the nations when he enterred the draft. I just don't see it happening although I have advocated that in the past. Most you remember my pushing of Ansah. Dallas will benefit from that move.

 

[badboy]

Sept 8th revised mock by Walter @#28 Houston Texans: Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh
The Texans showed some interest in Aaron Schobel, but nothing really worked out. Signing Schobel would have been a great move because in order to finally beat Peyton Manning, Houston will have to generate as monstrous a pass rush as possible. Greg Romeus could definitely help in that department as a bookend across from Mario Williams, with Connor Barwin coming in on passing downs.

Pick change; previously DeAndre McDaniel, S

 

[badboy]

Interesting note alluding to major "character issues" of my #1 QB choice for Texans. I'm gonna have to research this.
Cincinnati Bengals: Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Major character issues will eventually surface regarding Ryan Mallett. Let's just say that he won't be too focused when watching game film at the next level. So with that in mind, the Bengals will really be interested in Round 2.

Carson Palmer was pretty pedestrian last year. If he struggles again this season, it'll be apparent that he'll never be 100 percent in the wake of all of his injuries. Thus, the team may consider a quarterback early in the 2011 NFL Draft.

Pick change; previously Pat Devlin, QB