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1st round pick
- Thread starter royce1054
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But we have resigned the whole DL. And peek is a good contender for the last spot on the team. I dont see us drating a DL in the 1st round and him not starting... isnt that too much money for someone who wont start..
Remember we have Smith, Payne and walker... Maybe next year i can see a 1st round Dl. I think WR is a much more pressing need. LB core i think is set. I hope sharper stays but if he does they definetly wont draft DL. IF he is traded or released I see peek stepping in. I just cant see a DL in the 1st 4 rounds. I think WR 1st round... OL 2nd.... 3rd a LB and maybe a corner then 4th rd maybe a DL. I think we need a good #2 and i think Williamson would be a good person to fill that position.
Remember we have Smith, Payne and walker... Maybe next year i can see a 1st round Dl. I think WR is a much more pressing need. LB core i think is set. I hope sharper stays but if he does they definetly wont draft DL. IF he is traded or released I see peek stepping in. I just cant see a DL in the 1st 4 rounds. I think WR 1st round... OL 2nd.... 3rd a LB and maybe a corner then 4th rd maybe a DL. I think we need a good #2 and i think Williamson would be a good person to fill that position.
Beastlyman2003
Waterboy
Dude i watched Tennessee play in a game against Florida and their LB Kevin Burnett is a monstrosity. That dude is furious when hes on the field. His name was being called like evey defensive play! We could get him with our second rounder. I also wouldnt mind Chris Spencer(OG/C). I think they anylists said that he had one of the best interior lineman workouts that they had seen in years. Other than that, i know Casserly will make us proud. We just gotta have faith. 
Assuming for the sake of discussion in this thread that we don't trade either
up or down(and unlike our first 3 years, I think its very possible we could do either one this year), I think the WR available at 13 that we like the most will be Mark Clayton. I believe we'd take Spears or D.Johnson instead, but believe both (most certainly not Johnson) will be off the Board at 13.
Its partly wishful thinking on my part because I really like Clayton because he
is very talented but also psychologically he would be a good fit to be the #2 behind AJ.
I'm taking the team at its word when they say that they are gonna stay with
Seth Wand for atleast awhile. And I don't think they will use their top pick on
a DB or OLB this year.
up or down(and unlike our first 3 years, I think its very possible we could do either one this year), I think the WR available at 13 that we like the most will be Mark Clayton. I believe we'd take Spears or D.Johnson instead, but believe both (most certainly not Johnson) will be off the Board at 13.
Its partly wishful thinking on my part because I really like Clayton because he
is very talented but also psychologically he would be a good fit to be the #2 behind AJ.
I'm taking the team at its word when they say that they are gonna stay with
Seth Wand for atleast awhile. And I don't think they will use their top pick on
a DB or OLB this year.
I think Clayton isnt worth going #13. I also believe that he wouldnt be a great fit as he lacks size, i'd rather go with williamson. Im starting to believe that with Mike Williams' stock rising, that braylon edwards will be available. Well first off if DJ is still available we jump all over him, If Braylon is available, we should jump over him. After that we could take Williamson, Thomas Davis, or Alex Barron.
I agree that Spears wont get playing time. It doesnt seem smart to draft a DL after we resigned Payne $4 million contract and sit him on the bench. Walker has what 1 more year and SMith has a long term deal. There is no real for a DL on this team. To pay #13 money to some 1 that will sit doesnt make sense. We have more pressing needs at WR and OL. I would say CB but then we signed Sanders. I think that means he is gonna get his chance here. He will be a dime coner. Thats takes the need away from a 1st round pick to like a 3rd round pick. LB even if Sharper and Foreman are gone we have wong and greenwood on the inside, Babin and peek on the outside. We have an urgent need to find a player like but alot better than Bradford. I would like to see Williamson of South Carolina or Clayton of Oklahoma. On the mocks i have been Williamson has been being drafted #14 to Carolina. Clayton i have him going in the 20's. I think both are good topics. I admit before payne and deloach signed i though it was gonna be Spears. Afterwards i was thinking Carlos Rodgers then we signed Sanders. Now we are going to #3 need. WR and #4 OL
edo783 said:
All the teams that go before Minnesota are not in needs of a wr, so I think The vikes grab Mike Williams, and the next teams that would be interested in a wr would be perhaps dallas or san diego, and those two have the #11 and #12 picks, and if Dallas doesnt grab him with #11, i say we trade up to the #12 before San Diego and grab braylon. OR we could stand pat and take Williamson, but i'd hate to see us miss out on Edwards by a margin of 2 picks before us.
All of this above is assuming that tennessee doesnt take a wr at #6
i changed it to not startting.. The texans wont draft a player that will not start esp with the #13 pick. WR and OL are more of pressing needs than a #4 DL that isnt gonna be on the field. What about Slary Cap that is gonna hurt our #. We can get a perfectly good DL and in the 3rd or 4th round to be that #4 DL
D-ReK
RAWWWRR!
The last DE picked at 13 was Ty Warren and he got 6 years 21 million, which is right at what Payne will be getting this year...That's a lot of money to tie up on the D-Line...
If we draft Spears, where does that leave Deloach and Sears? I know they're not the best D-Lineman in the world, but we just re-signed both of them, so I don't think it would be wise to sign them and not give them much PT...
With Spears, our D-Line would likely be Walker/Spears Payne/Ioane/Deloach and Smith/Deloach...Looks like Sears would be the odd man out...
If we draft Spears, where does that leave Deloach and Sears? I know they're not the best D-Lineman in the world, but we just re-signed both of them, so I don't think it would be wise to sign them and not give them much PT...
With Spears, our D-Line would likely be Walker/Spears Payne/Ioane/Deloach and Smith/Deloach...Looks like Sears would be the odd man out...
Edwards and Williams are the top 2 rated WRs and deservedly so. ButDRIFTAWAY said:
Clayton has tremendous hands and runs very good routes and turned in very
quick 40 times in the Combine. Matter of fact, he was clocked at only 'bout half tenth of a second slower that Williamson, so the margin over a 40 is
maybe half of stride. So Williamson is faster that Clayton, but just barely.
I really think Williamson is overrated and not nearly the football player that the Sooner is, but a better Track guy - OK, so what.
my point exactly. Why would we go for someone smaller and slower? we want a big physical reciever just like andre. Too many cb's in the nfl could manhandle clayton, while with all the new rules being enforced, Williamson can be a beast. I also believe Williamson is overrated, but thats what they said about a nice little cb out of the same college in last years draft.
LikeABoss
Rookie
Hottoddie said:
I think Mark Clayton will be a Derrick Mason type reciever, especially if he goes to Baltimore and get a chance to learn from him.
I would love to have Troy Williamson though
I guarantee you teams won't be able double team Andre no more with the speedy beast Troy Williamson on the other side :woot
They would be begging to get torched
I think we need a WR to stretch the field. Some one to create room for johnson and Gaffney. I think Williamson can do it.. I dont doubt that clayton can do it either. I would be happier with both but in my mock drafts i dont have clayton going til late teens or early 20's. I think williamson can go 13 easy.
I think quality 3-4 Dlinemen can be had in the middle rounds. Same with Oline.
WR is NOT a pressing need for us, and I do not see us using our #1 on one. If Braylon or Williams fell to us it is definatly possible.. but we wont go for Williamson (he is a head case). And clayton is a reach at #13.
Spears.. he does not strike me as a stud. He strikes me as the same kind of player as Jerry DeLoach. Solid.. but not exceptional.
At the moment(hehe) my money is on Pollack. I think he IS worth the #13 pick.. especially in this draft because there are a few teams switching to a 3-4 and 3-4 tweeners are gonna be worth more than they were in previous drafts. He has the kind of personality we like.. and unlike most everyone else on this board.. I am not sure that Peek is starting quality. There are issues going on behind the scenes, otherwise he would have already been starting.
Pollack at #1
Anntaj Hawthorne or Luis Castillo at #2
Antonio Perkins and Jason Brown at #3
after that it is all gravy.
WR is NOT a pressing need for us, and I do not see us using our #1 on one. If Braylon or Williams fell to us it is definatly possible.. but we wont go for Williamson (he is a head case). And clayton is a reach at #13.
Spears.. he does not strike me as a stud. He strikes me as the same kind of player as Jerry DeLoach. Solid.. but not exceptional.
At the moment(hehe) my money is on Pollack. I think he IS worth the #13 pick.. especially in this draft because there are a few teams switching to a 3-4 and 3-4 tweeners are gonna be worth more than they were in previous drafts. He has the kind of personality we like.. and unlike most everyone else on this board.. I am not sure that Peek is starting quality. There are issues going on behind the scenes, otherwise he would have already been starting.
Pollack at #1
Anntaj Hawthorne or Luis Castillo at #2
Antonio Perkins and Jason Brown at #3
after that it is all gravy.
Hottoddie
Veteran
I also believe that the Texans will draft defense with the #13 pick. By the way, why hasn't Shawne Merriman been brought up in this thread? He'd be an ideal OLB in the 3-4.
As for WR, since we seem to be set with that position, I'd have to see about taking Roscoe Parrish in a later round. Assuming, of course, I can't get Williamson.
Parrish is an excellent return man & has more size than Moses does. In other words, he could play on the special teams & go in as a legitimate WR.
If we're just looking for a speed burner with decent hands at WR, a couple of other WR's to consider would be Courtney Roby (4.33 40 yard dash) & Jerome Mathis (4.28 40 yard dash). Roby has excellent hands, but Mathis will need some work in that department.
As for WR, since we seem to be set with that position, I'd have to see about taking Roscoe Parrish in a later round. Assuming, of course, I can't get Williamson.
Parrish is an excellent return man & has more size than Moses does. In other words, he could play on the special teams & go in as a legitimate WR.
If we're just looking for a speed burner with decent hands at WR, a couple of other WR's to consider would be Courtney Roby (4.33 40 yard dash) & Jerome Mathis (4.28 40 yard dash). Roby has excellent hands, but Mathis will need some work in that department.
Parrish is too slow to stretch the field. If they are going DL that means Peek is gonna sit and they are gonna move whoever they pick to strong side LB. Thats a stretch i think the texans love Peek. I cant see any other reason they would draft a DL. WR we have to have a good #2. Johnson needs some extra room and we both Williamson and Johnson need their respect. OL is are other need. If they go Williamson I think Bass g from Michigan in 2nd. if they go Barron, brown, barnes they will go gibson or i cant think of the other name he quoted on the texans draft central page. A also thought CB before they signed Sanders. I thought Pac-man or Rodgers would be good. Glenn has what 1 more year. I think they decided we signed Sanders this is his chance and if it doesnt work next year a CB 1st round. Plus maybe the 3rd round Corner maybe Brown of Oregon
Hottoddie
Veteran
royce1054 said:
When did 4.43 become too slow? Braylon Edwards runs a 4.45. I guess he's too slow to stretch the field also.
Besides, I said we might want to look at taking him in a later round & use him as our return man/WR.
ROSCOE PARRISH
Strengths: Quick and very fast...An excellent punt returner...Very tough and plays bigger than he is...A threat to score every time he touches the ball...Shifty and very hard to tackle...Is a reliable target.
Grid said:
First off, Gaffney is doing just enough for the #3 spot, I dont think hes ready to become a starter or that he would draw much coverage away from dre. Sloan will never catch a ball as a texan,if he even enters a game as a texan wr. Starling is a very longshot at maybe a #4 spot,and Armstrong would be nice at #3. We still dont really have a solidified #2, and that is a pressing need in this draft.
Williamson is a head case, we wont take him.
Pollack isnt a reach because he is no worse than anyone else projected at #13+, and would be more useful to us.
btw.. that little mock thing I did..
#1 Polack
#2 Castillo or Hawthorne
#3a Perkins
#3b Brown
id add
#4 Grigsby
that would be a nice draft.
grab Pouha in the 5th and you have have no players you reached for.. and filled all your needs.
(I think people are always crying for a WR every year cause they just cant bare the thought of taking someone in the first who isnt going to score touchdowns. Well the game is about more than just getting a TD)
Pollack isnt a reach because he is no worse than anyone else projected at #13+, and would be more useful to us.
btw.. that little mock thing I did..
#1 Polack
#2 Castillo or Hawthorne
#3a Perkins
#3b Brown
id add
#4 Grigsby
that would be a nice draft.
grab Pouha in the 5th and you have have no players you reached for.. and filled all your needs.
(I think people are always crying for a WR every year cause they just cant bare the thought of taking someone in the first who isnt going to score touchdowns. Well the game is about more than just getting a TD)
there is no article.. just what im hearing from "people in the know". I dunno if it is true or not, but im inclined to beleive it because I dont agree with us taking a WR in the 1st 
.
I cant remember the exact details of it, and cant really commit any time to looking for the quotes right now cause im at my parents house for the weekend.
SO!... your choice whether you beleive it or not.. im going to
.I cant remember the exact details of it, and cant really commit any time to looking for the quotes right now cause im at my parents house for the weekend.
SO!... your choice whether you beleive it or not.. im going to
I thinki sharper will be traded with 1st this year a 1st next year and a 2nd next year. Thats alot but i am sure carr would be much more happier knowing Pace is blocking for him than seth wand. This i think is alot better than us arguing about Spears who will be gone at 12 and Williamson who will prob be drafted by St. louis in this pick.... I will be crying tears of joy if this happens... I say bring it on
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
royce1054 said:
That's not happening. The Texans can get Pace for two 1st round picks under the franchise tag rules without the Rams' consent--certainly not going to pay more than that.
i cant see Davis ending up here in any senario. I can see a DL if Walker is released. I can see a LB maybe crowder or blackstock if Peek sits. I can see a CB if they think faggins isnt the man. I think texans are high on him. A WR is a near must it should be Williamson in the 1st round or Gibson or Brown in the 2nd round. If they go Williamson they will go OL in the 2nd round. If they go OL (Barron Flordia State) wand will sit and he will start at blindside T. Then in the 2nd they will go WR.