Lord Bills
Destruction
forgive me for being skeptical about entrusting your franchise to a cross dresser.
i dont know about you guys, but i do not want my star franchise qb to be a cross dresser. That's just me, my personal opinion.
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forgive me for being skeptical about entrusting your franchise to a cross dresser.
i dont know about you guys, but i do not want my star franchise qb to be a cross dresser. That's just me, my personal opinion.
MistaRed
Rookie
I don't think you pass on a talent like Clowney for Bortles. He's underwhelming to me anyway.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Until they put on pads and play you don't know what you've got. And how many times have we all played the game of "we should have taken so and so" in the draft a few years ago?
You have to have a good QB to win in the NFL. I don't really want any of the veteran FAs available this year, so that means taking a chance in the draft. Whoever they pick, I hope it's the right choice. And I'm still not convinced that anyone is worth the absolute top 1.1 pick this year. But we may have to use the pick to get what we want anyway.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Hall of Fame
Teddy Texan
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
You don't stretch for a less than elite player with the #1-1 pick. That's what you do 1-15+. Get the low risk player with the top draft choices. I still think Matthews is a MY GUY type of player. But there are enough teams stretching for QBs this year for him to fall to 5 or 6 and still get a very good QB prospect in round 2. We would likely pick up a high draft pick or 2 this year or possibly more in future years and still get OUR GUY. Being 1-1 doesn't make anybody elite. It just gives us the opportunity if there IS an elite prospect. I don't think there is one at QB, so trading down, (not too far though), is my top choice.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Right now I would be pissed if the Texans took Clowney. This team has had elite level DE's in Watt and Williams and that didn't get them far in the playoffs. We've never had a true franchise caliber QB. Just the possibility of that has me wanting Bridgewater.
A RT at 1.1 would be worse than Clowney.
After his game against Miami I'm fully on board with this.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
If we take Clowney number one overall - nice thought to help out J.J. Watt - then the 33rd overall pick (1st in round two) almost certainly has to be on the best quarterback available.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
For those of you saying no to Teddy, what's your answer for a QB next season? That's by far our biggest position of need.
OzzO
.. and then?
depends on who you ask. It's been all over the boards.
- pick another QB 1-1
- pick other position then another QB at 2-1 (or trade back into first)
- grab a FA for a stop gap and get a QB in next year's draft
There's not a consensus and I don't think many, if any, are gonna be swayed from their decision
bah007
Hall of Fame
I'd be careful with this line of thinking. Everybody was drooling over this QB class a year ago and now everyone is saying there is no QB worth the #1 pick.
I typically agree with trading down in the first round every year unless there is a guy you can't afford to pass on. Hoarding picks in future drafts is a good long term strategy because they come cheaper than picks in the current draft. But I'd be careful about banking on next year's draft being better when it's still a year and a half away.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I look for Mettenberger or another QB at 2-1 or try to move up to get him if I think he won't make it to the second round. I look for a veteran QB to sign and possibly play if Mettenberger isn't ready to go right out of the gate.
SchaubApologist
Waterboy
edwardc5637
Waterboy
After watching the bowl game Bridgewater there will be outside rushers and ILB in the second round.
kingtexan
All Pro
People keep saying this, but what says he has to be the RT?
PapaL
Loose Screw
We could always start 2 LT huh? Or do you think he could beat the blitz and deliver a strike at the QB position?
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Probably because the Texans have a solid LT in Duane Brown?
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
For me, the question is: why would a great RT be worse than drafting a mediocre or bad DE?... I'm not predicting either will be the case, but I disagree with the idea that we should avoid a great player with 1.1 simply because he plays a position that is not often selected with the first pick. Who cares? Other than K, P, FB, Any position should be within the scope of consideration. By the way, RT is pretty darn important.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
We could get a solid RT at 2.1 and still be able to take the best QB in this draft at 1.1. That is why I'm not wanting Matthews 1st overall.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Perhaps... but if Matthews is clearly the best player on the board and is markedly better than whatever RT would be likely at 2.1, I think he should be strongly considered... It isn't what I want, but I do reject the idea that a player expected to start immediately at RT shouldn't be considered with the pick... This thinking is influenced by the previous CBA, when the pick was going to make over $50million and a team simply couldn't justify that much of the cap going to the RT position... However, a contract around $25 million at RT is perfectly reasonable.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Right. We all know that no one who tore their ACL ever walked or ran again.
Hey! I got a better idea! Lets draft the stick-man out of Louisville and then he can tear everything up like RGIII did in his first year in the pros! RGIII is immobile now too right?
Someday, when they finally solve the mystery of repairing ACL injuries maybe we won't have to put NFL players down anymore and they can return to compete again. It's a dream I have.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Unless we're racing horses, I don't care who his daddy is. Pedigree doesn't mean squat in the NFL.
Some of y'all get so caught up in "local" players that you miss the big picture. Just like Case was hyped up to be the savior at QB, Matthews is being hyped up to be the savior. Hell he might not even be the best tackle in the draft.
Some of y'all get so caught up in "local" players that you miss the big picture. Just like Case was hyped up to be the savior at QB, Matthews is being hyped up to be the savior. Hell he might not even be the best tackle in the draft.
kingtexan
All Pro
No, but if he is better or just as good we can move DB and probably extend his career a few years by doing so.
kingtexan
All Pro
He actually would play wherever we wanted him to. He played both in college.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Unless one these guys blows the texans away I say trade down.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Nawzer
Alienz
With a new coach coming in, he'll very likely want to build the team with a fresh new QB. I'm not attached to any one in particular but I know it has to be a QB. This is the most important position in all of sports imo and it's really a no brainer. Even if it doesn't work out, you have to take the risk because of the potential rewards.
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
Yeah, because having trouble putting on weight after having mouth surgery can't be fixed in the pros... And why are you comparing RG3 to Teddy? You guys are reaching now. Better get used to the idea of Houston drafting him. It's at least a 50/50 chance.
kingtexan
All Pro
I agree we MUST draft a QB, but there aren't any that justify the #1 slot.
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
Says who? We need a QB. We have a chance to take the best one. I swear it seems like some of you guys want to see the same old Texans. More FGs than TDs and praying your defense doesn't allow a TD.
Nawzer
Alienz
That's your opinion which you are entitled to. I believe there might be 2 or 3 guys who will emerge as the potential no 1 pick and if you're the Texans you pull the trigger and go with it. Also, I don't think there's anyone else worthy of the overall pick. Clowney seems to have issues and I don't think you draft a RT with the top pick. If you can trade down and still get the best QB in the draft, that might be a reasonable option but they better make sure that their guy will be available.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
in a little more detail:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...aft-texans-to-pick-first-rams-get-second-pick
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...aft-texans-to-pick-first-rams-get-second-pick
Have you ever seen Mettenberger play?
He has a slightly better arm than Schaub. LOL
Carry on with your TB lovefest.
Brett Smith is a QB that I really like in this draft.
BigBull
Rookie
I've seen him play enough to know I never want to see him in a Texans uniform.
Sent from the future...
It's not logical because If you trade down there is no guarantee he will be there. If you LOVE a player when it's your pick take him.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Why? Explain. I keep hearing this but nobody ever explains why there are no QB's worthy of the number 1 pick.
Should the draft just skip the first pick altogether and start at #2? Anybody worthy of the 2nd pick, or should we skip down further and start at 10?
Why? Because QB does NOT and should NOT take priority over BPA. And QB, no matter who this year, is NOT the BPA.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Ok, let's say Bridgewater is seen as a franchise QB that has drawn comparisons to Aaron Rodgers (which he has), but he's the #3 BPA and Clowney is #1. Do you bypass the franchise QB for the top DE? We've had two elite level DE's on this team since 2006 (Mario & Watt) and neither have led this team far into the playoffs. We have never had a true franchise QB and they are what lead teams deep in the playoffs...
Texian
Hall of Fame
First thing you need to do is find out who is comparing Teddy to Aaron Rodgers and why?
beerlover
Hall of Fame
I think it will become a lot clearer when Texans select a Head Coach. Clean slate, chance to wipe the board fresh. Right now it is apparent that beauty in in the eye of the beholder, meaning everyone has their own opinion so who is to say who is right or wrong? So new coach first, then underclassman deadline, all star bowl games (always like to see prospects compete) combine then free agency. In about four months from now teams will have pretty much finalized their respective big boards & ready for day one, which is really when the **** hits the fan, trades & movement in draft order. Just remember one thing-
ask yourself, is he Texan worthy?
BigBull
Rookie
My sentiments exactly. Bridgewater is the only qb in this draft that has a chance to be a franchise qb in my opinion. I know others think he isn't, but I believe he is. Being a Texans fan since the beginning I'm tired of average to way below average qb play.
Sent from the future...
Being a Texans fan from the begining, I want the Trenches fixed for 1st time since the teams inception. It's simple fix the trenches then get your QB. Wasn't anything learned in the Carr debacle?
By trenches I mean the DL too. The difference is that You think Teddy is the savior. I dont, we will see who's right. I do think Teddy will have an Andy Dalton type career.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
1st time? I thought we were very good in the trenches in 2011 & 2012.
We have different definitions of good/great.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
And with J.J. Watt and Duane Brown the Texans can be very good in the trenches if they can shore up the RT position in the 2nd or 3rd round..
dream_team
Hall of Fame
If you don't have a decent QB on the roster, then I say it does take priority over BPA. A good QB can mask a lot of deficiencies on the team (see Brady).