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08 Free Agent Market

Dallas_Texan said:
For dummies.......what does that mean "Waiver process begins"? I would think simply waiving players from the team, but can't you cut someone anytime?
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At the end of the season the rosters are frozen until today. Teams can still sign FA that where not on rosters, guy's like Chukky Okobi, LeRon McCoy, and Eric Powell.

Today is the day team also start cutting guys under contract they do not want to keep, guys like David Carr in Carolina.

Waiting until today does a few things, it starts the clock on the 2008 season, and it allows the league to celebrate the 2007 season, ie Pro Bowl. Now the list of FA available will grow due to the guys that are waived in the next week or so.
 
Lucky said:
I know you meant Tony Hill. But what a Freudian slip linking these two. :)

The most logical scenario for the Texans to trade down would involve a team targeting a player the Eagles or maybe Bucs covet. Maybe a WR/KR like Cal's Desean Jackson could interest teams looking for a home run hitter. Maybe get the Titans and the Jags in a bidding war.
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Just got off telephone with Hill's agent threatening me about bringing that type of Karma to his player. SHeesh.
 
painekiller said:
At the end of the season the rosters are frozen until today. Teams can still sign FA that where not on rosters, guy's like Chukky Okobi, LeRon McCoy, and Eric Powell.

Today is the day team also start cutting guys under contract they do not want to keep, guys like David Carr in Carolina.

Waiting until today does a few things, it starts the clock on the 2008 season, and it allows the league to celebrate the 2007 season, ie Pro Bowl. Now the list of FA available will grow due to the guys that are waived in the next week or so.
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And Deshaun Foster, as of about 10am this morning on 1560. He would be an interesting guy to bring in.
 
bckey said:
That sucks. I was hoping there was some way we could get DeAngelo Williams from the Panthers. I know Kubiak was high on him coming out of the draft.
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Didn't Williams show up to camp that first year with a weight problem?
 
painekiller said:
At the end of the season the rosters are frozen until today. Teams can still sign FA that where not on rosters, guy's like Chukky Okobi, LeRon McCoy, and Eric Powell.

Today is the day team also start cutting guys under contract they do not want to keep, guys like David Carr in Carolina.

Waiting until today does a few things, it starts the clock on the 2008 season, and it allows the league to celebrate the 2007 season, ie Pro Bowl. Now the list of FA available will grow due to the guys that are waived in the next week or so.
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Thank you! Sounds good then, hopefully we see some big name corners, FS's, and RB's get cut! Hell, last year Joey Porter was cut! You never know...ehem, John Lynch:d:
 
Dallas_Texan said:
Thank you! Sounds good then, hopefully we see some big name corners, FS's, and RB's get cut! Hell, last year Joey Porter was cut! You never know...ehem, John Lynch:d:
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Lynch is in the same league as Farve... given that QB, perhaps, ages a body faster but with the way Lynch plays he'd be a quick fix and i wouldn't trust him with a contract for more than 2 years.
 
I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
 
Nawzer said:
I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
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Generally, I tend to agree with this way of approaching FA.

I would like to see us test the waters with some of these defensive FAs like Briggs, Dansby, and Samuel.
 
Panthers re-signed Travelle Wharton to a six-year contract.

does anyone still think the Texans will address this need via Free Agency?
 
Nawzer said:
I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
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I pretty much agree 100% on all accounts. Bring in guys that maybe aren't superstars but will start for us. Bring in talent > than we have at a fairly inexpensive price.

Build through the draft, selecting a combo of BPA/Need. Getting guys that fit our scheme and what we're doing.

Cap space is getting better but we're still a couple years from having it under control. We're going to have a lot of money to play around with in another 2 years when we have a lot of players we like for our team. Look at Schaub, Winston, Daniels, Johnson and possibly Jones on Offense. Mario, Amobi, Demeco, Bennett on Defense. There's 4 guys on each side of the ball that are basically franchise guys for us. We still have this years draft/FA which I think we'll add another 2 long-term starters for us at the minimum (that will also be starting next season).

Then we'll be having some of these OL picks pay off for us w/ Gibbs teaching them up into at least quality back ups.
 
I agree with you guys but we will have about $20 million to sign other free agents. Samuel may be out but Trufant may be attainable. Not spending cap $ for two years does not benefit the team although it does benefit McNair. A starting CB in his prime or an all pro LB? Yeah, buddy.
 
beerlover said:
Panthers re-signed Travelle Wharton to a six-year contract.

does anyone still think the Texans will address this need via Free Agency?
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most teams do not let their Cbs and OLTs walk unless they are in cap hell.
I heard speculation that 'Zona is in the market for Faneca.

Wharton had the leverge in the fact that both of their tackles are FAs and they couldn't go into the draft with no one servicable on the edge.

Any Randal Gay news ?
 
beerlover said:
Panthers re-signed Travelle Wharton to a six-year contract.

does anyone still think the Texans will address this need via Free Agency?
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I imagine they'll pick up fringe players and see if a TC competition will shore up the spot.
 
Nawzer said:
I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
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Absolutley true! Very few free agents come in and make a real difference. Hutchison for the Vikings is an exception, but even that doesn't make you qa SB contender. This team needs some pieces to fill out the puzzle not just one piece. We have to remain patient and fill a few holes. Everybody that wants to sign the high profile free agents: just relax..... the front office has a plan.... we're going in the right direction.
 
beerlover said:
In a nutshell expect some new faces that are mild upgrades but nothing special. my projected top free agent aquisition is OLB Karlos Dansby. DE Justin Smith & WR D.J. Hackett or TE L.J. Smith.

OK :gun:
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Well, with Dansby & L.J. Smith franchised you're down to just 2 choices left.

I like Justin Smith at DE, but would you consider giving up a 4th round pick for RFA Chris Canty? He's just 25 & appears to be over any lingering effects of his leg injury.

At OLB, I'm still interested in Landon Johnson & possibly Demorrio Williams.

At WR, I'd have to make a run at Bryant Johnson.
 
Maddict5 said:
:wild:
an old, injury-prone, decent cover 2 CB (jason david looked ok in indy too).. i cant see what you guys want him for
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I understand where you are coming from but everyone said the same thing about Charles Woodson because of his injuries and look at him now. I like Brian kelly I can remember him coming out of USC he was good then and good now I just hope that the injury bug is over. He will come at a discount price as well so I think that he is worth signing to at least a managable 3 year deal and we can still go after another cornerback for a decent price like Drayton Florence.
 
I still see Trufant as the right choice. I'm undecided if Gay would be an asset. What was the outcome of his arm injury? Is NE willing to lose him and Samuel?
 
infantrycak said:
Not worth a separate thread, but ESPN is reporting the Eagles are shopping Lito Shepard around.
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GREAT CB when healthy........unfortunately, the latter should be a concern to us, evidently it is for the Eagles.

NFL Network is reporting this afternoon that Eagles CB Lito Sheppard has been given permission to seek a trade/are shopping him. So far they seem to be the only source reporting this. If it gets corroborated, I'll be sure to post up a link.

This is an interesting development, but not necessarily a huge surprise. Pretty much anyone you read this offseason has the Eagles in the market for help in the secondary and one of the main reasons always cited is that fact that Lito can never stay healthy. There's no doubt that when he's healthy he's a great playmaker, but lately that hasn't been all that often. In the last 3 years, Lito has played 11,13, & 10 games respectively. Sheppard's cap number next year is $3.45 million and the Eagles would take a $2.9 million hit to trade him.

I must say, I hope this a sign on the part of the Eagles that injury prone players will simply no longer be tolerated. Injuries have frustrated me more than anything over the past several years and it always seems to be the same guys. Lito is clearly one of them. In fact, my favorite thing about the drafting of Kevin Kolb was that the guy started 4 years in college and never missed a game.

There's also been some talk, namely from Sal Palantonio, that the Eagles could be in the market for free agent CB Asante Samuel.
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