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Jacque Reeves#35 = Disappointing

Reeves isn't doing much to make me like him as a player. The guy just seems to get bullied around out there. He was the Texans version of Jason David out there. He was in good position a couple of times, but just kept getting beat.

So is everyone going to gripe at my ass now for posting this??? Is it still too early???
 
Shaft75 said:
Reeves isn't doing much to make me like him as a player. The guy just seems to get bullied around out there. He was the Texans version of Jason David out there. He was in good position a couple of times, but just kept getting beat.

So is everyone going to gripe at my ass now for posting this??? Is it still too early???
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No he's not. 4 days after I posted on this thread he goes out there and solidifies his claim to the Matt Stevens award. I still say he won't be worse than P-burnt but he's going to be hard to watch this year.
 
I think its something to do with him being a former Cowgirl that makes me not like the guy. Last night vs. the Aints he looked pretty bad, he seemed to be getting shoved around like a little girl. Lets hope hes just still getting adjusted to a new defense....... yeah thats it ! :thinking:
 
I hope Rick kept the receipt, because he needs to go get a refund from this purchase.

I heard that his contract was cap friendly, so if we cut him next year, it wouldn't result in big dead money like Davis/Carr/Walker/etc. I think they just signed him to be a one-year rental, and that's ok with me.
 
Hervoyel said:
Getting "P burnt". Excellent.

I'm adding that to my "Texans Fan Dictionary" that I've been working on. To get P burnt is to be beaten so bad in pass coverage that you force Texans fans to remember Phillip Buchanon as a Texan.
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So the if a player goes for a tackle and comes away only with that players shoe, does it then mean he pulled a Matt Stevens?
 
TEXANRED said:
So the if a player goes for a tackle and comes away only with that players shoe, does it then mean he pulled a Matt Stevens?
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When a Texans player makes a completely inept attempt at a tackle and comes up empty handed he is said to have "Caught the shoe" which is a reference to the famous Matt Stevens attempt to wrap up Ricky Williams by his shoe in the 2003 season opener. For an example in usage one might watch a Texans game and make the following comment to other Texans fans "Morlon Greenwood has been catching the shoe all night long. I hope we draft a decent linebacker next year!"

Only longstanding Texans fans with a good memory will truly appreciate how bad Morlon Greenwood has been playing from that statement. Bandwagon jumpers and posers can be weeded out using correct Texans fan slang.
 
Hervoyel said:
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When a Texans player makes a completely inept attempt at a tackle and comes up empty handed he is said to have "Caught the shoe" which is a reference to the famous Matt Stevens attempt to wrap up Ricky Williams by his shoe in the 2003 season opener. For an example in usage one might watch a Texans game and make the following comment to other Texans fans "Morlon Greenwood has been catching the shoe all night long. I hope we draft a decent linebacker next year!"

Only longstanding Texans fans with a good memory will truly appreciate how bad Morlon Greenwood has been playing from that statement. Bandwagon jumpers and posers can be weeded out using correct Texans fan slang.
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:thinking:

Greenwood sure has been doing the Foreman a lot .... Thats making a tackle 8 yards downfield .... Damn he did that a lot. I sure hope we draft a decent Linebacker next year.
 
TexansFanatic said:
3.4 yards a carry? Not quite up to his USC standards....He took advantage of an inferior cornerback on one play. Other than that, he was ho-hum.
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Well, apparently from your statement you didn't watch the game.

sidenote: Bush looks like the same player he was back from the USC today. He far from a bust.

If you read that carefully, real carefully, it say he looks like the same player. You don't watch a player through the stat, you watch them through the tube. What I saw was the reason why I made that statement. The nasty stiffarm throwing a player down, the sick hurdle into the endzone, that USC glory-day Bush right there.

But yea, I said that in the spur of the moment, just cross out my last statement about him being far from a bust.
 
(on CB Jacques Reeves game) “You look at the things he does in the running game and the way he plays the game overall. We’re very pleased with that. From a coverage standpoint, he’s not going to get outrun. He’s got a lot of speed. He was right there on the big play, just got to find the football. And you know, it was a great throw. It was a perfect throw, but we have to find a way to get to that ball and knock it down. It’s kind of the same way with (Antwaun) Molden. And Reeves had a couple of nice plays, had a chance for a pick on a slant that they threw. He’s an excellent tackler. He’ll come up and do his job from that standpoint. I like the fact that he’s in position. We just have to work like heck on finding a way of getting the ball out.”
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don't know what y'all are seeing (forget the pattycake with Reggie already he did force him to the sideline & kept in front) so far I see the same thing as Kubiak :vinny:
 
beerlover said:
don't know what y'all are seeing (forget the pattycake with Reggie already he did force him to the sideline & kept in front) so far I see the same thing as Kubiak :vinny:
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Coach Kubes is such an optimist.

He said the same things about Petey. He never shuts the door on any player. Which I think is extremely admirable. I would hate to see what some of us would do if we were in his shoes.

With him it's always "we just gotta get better..." With most of us it's "Are you f'ing kidding me? We pay you how much? My goodness you remind me of Petey out there. Go sit your ass on the bench. ........for the love of pburnt......."
 
Shaft75 said:
Coach Kubes is such an optimist.

He said the same things about Petey. He never shuts the door on any player. Which I think is extremely admirable. I would hate to see what some of us would do if we were in his shoes.

With him it's always "we just gotta get better..." With most of us it's "Are you f'ing kidding me? We pay you how much? My goodness you remind me of Petey out there. Go sit your ass on the bench. ........for the love of pburnt......."
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Here's what happens when a head coach gets confused and thinks he's a poster on a message board

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI
 
Kubiak had tons of praise for Reeves after preseason game 2.
He tackles well
He stays with receivers well
He has good skill sets and moves well

The only thing he didn't do was locate the ball every time. That can be fixed
 
LOL @ Kubiaks comments...

He knows Reeves played like trash...Wake up...

He's just not gonna pour onto the guy who's slotted to be a starter...The same guy who they paid a lot of money in the off-season...The same guy without much quality depth behind him...

That wouldn't have a good affect on Reeves confidence level..You destroy his confidence level (worse than it was this past saturday) and his play may decline even further...Maybe Reeves' problems are correctable and may not be that big, but regarless he played like trash...

Kubiak said the right thing...

He knows in the back of his mind that Reeves played like a str8 beotch.
 
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Polo said:
LOL @ Kubiaks comments...

He knows Reeves played like trash...Wake up...

He's just not gonna pour onto the guy who's slotted to be a starter...The same guy who they paid a lot of money in the off-season...The same guy without much quality depth behind him...

That wouldn't have a good affect on Reeves confidence level..You destroy his confidence level (worse than it was this past saturday) and his play may decline even further...Maybe Reeves' problems are correctable and may not be that big, but regarless he played like trash...

Kubiak said the right thing...

He knows in the back of his mind that Reeves played like a str8 beotch.
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Reeves didn't have a good outing, but it may not be because he played horribly. Excuse me while I believe our head coach over you and your attempt to pyscho analyze our coaches presser.

Kubes has been a pretty straight shooter in terms of who is doing well and who is falling behind. He doesn't hesitate to call guys out. People were saying Reeves was P-buch II. Kubes specifically made a point of saying how good Reeves has been in run support. I don't think that was a bunch of confidence building garbage. These are football players, not girl scouts.

I don't think Reeves has looked all that great in the first two games, but:
1) Im not a football coach
2) Its still the preseason and this is a new guy adjusting to a new team

I for one am not ready to pull the plug yet. These knee jerk reactions (Reeves, Taylor, Jones) are just getting absolutely overwhelming
 
gtexan02 said:
Kubiak had tons of praise for Reeves after preseason game 2.
He tackles well
He stays with receivers well
He has good skill sets and moves well

The only thing he didn't do was locate the ball every time. That can be fixed
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I think that's what it comes down to. What do you want from your corners??

From Kubiak's comments, he obviously wants them to be a big part of run defense. I'm against that, but all yuse guys that like Dunta Robinson, obviously like it, because Dunta can't cover worth a crap either.

I'm also good with Faggins.... at least he is in the picture, when the receiver catches the pass, Dunta is usually off somewhere crying to the refs.

With Faggins, and Reeves, the receiver actually has to work.

NO doubt, Dunta has more speed that either of them. He's more physical as well....... I just don't think he's much of a cover corner. Faggins & Reeves aren't lockdowns by any means, but they cover better than Dunta.

JMO.
 
gtexan02 said:
Kubiak had tons of praise for Reeves after preseason game 2.
He tackles well
He stays with receivers well
He has good skill sets and moves well

The only thing he didn't do was locate the ball every time. That can be fixed
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We've already know all that from last year.
What I'd like to hear from Kubiak is when it can be fixed!

Reeves did some good things, but those did not make up for the bad things he was guilty of. Dunta and Bennett did. Reeves has yet to show that and he's a veteran.

In his defense, all the games I saw him played last year, he was the LCB.
So I will give him the benefit of the doubt to see if he can adjust to the right side by the time the season start.
 
gtexan02 said:
Excuse me while I believe our head coach over you
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LOL @ you thinking the intentions of my post was to gain your belief...



Reeves got trashed out there in pass coverage and stepping up to stop the run...

Believe what you want...
 
http://reporternews.com/news/2008/aug/21/reeves-energized-by-fresh-start-in-houston/

HOUSTON -- It's all new to Jacques Reeves with the Houston Texans -- the team, the defense and even how he's perceived.

After four seasons in Dallas, the 25-year-old cornerback is suddenly a seasoned veteran in the eyes of Houston's coaches and younger defensive backs. Instead of looking up to more experienced players with the Cowboys, Reeves is the one giving pointers at Texans' camp.

"I was one of the younger guys in Dallas. Here, I'm one of the older guys, so it's a different role for me," Reeves said. "I was used to being around a group of veterans who pretty much had everything down really professional. Here, guys are still trying to learn their way. They're trying to get that feel for how things will work."

Reeves says he's been reinvigorated by the fresh start after Dallas let his contract expire. He signed a five-year contract with the Texans on March 1, and his past and present will cross on Friday night when Houston plays the Cowboys in a preseason game.

Reeves appeared in 60 games for Dallas but only became a regular starter last season. He downplays how much Friday's game will mean to him -- it's the preseason, after all -- and is more concerned about securing his starting job with the Texans.
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thunderkyss said:
I think that's what it comes down to. What do you want from your corners??

From Kubiak's comments, he obviously wants them to be a big part of run defense. I'm against that, but all yuse guys that like Dunta Robinson, obviously like it, because Dunta can't cover worth a crap either.

I'm also good with Faggins.... at least he is in the picture, when the receiver catches the pass, Dunta is usually off somewhere crying to the refs.

With Faggins, and Reeves, the receiver actually has to work.
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Completely crap, the only thing the receiver that Reeves or Faggins is covering has to work on is his TD dance.

Dunta might not be a great on the ball defender, but he is a excellent receiver defender....he's not a player that's going to get alot of picks, because again he doesn't play the ball, but he will stay in the receiver's hip pocket and be there to tip the ball away or tackle his ass as soon as he receives the ball (hardly ever any YAC).....and unlike Reeves or Faggins, you won't see his ass being trucked into the endzone by the other teams runningbacks either (or in Reeves case...just completely jumped over), which makes your comment about how "your against corners that can contribute in the running game" funny to me.

I honestly don't see how anybody in their right mind would be advocating for Faggins or Reeves over Dunta. It's posts like this that make me some what hope Reeves is the other starting CB until Dunta comes back, just so these people understand what kind of imapct Dunta makes. (but deep down inside I hope he's not the other starting corner). I mean Jacque Reeves was doing his best Jason David impersonation, (go over to the Saints forum, Saints fans everywhere were laughing at him), but none the less.....Jason David plays the ball (but gets burnt) so he also must be better than Dunta Robinson....stupid Dunta.
 
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gtexan02 said:
Bennett + Molden + Reeves + Faggins + Fletcher (he looked good) + (hopefully) Drob eventually

We should be able to find 2 starters in there somewhere
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Although Reeves did not have his best performance against the Saints, he is not the only one to blame. Short of our safeties stuffing runs, our secondary looked talented but vulnerable, very vulnerable. Quite a few big plays were allowed, the sort of plays that have been or close-game nemesis for a few years now.

IMO there are two possible problems (Im also sure that there are more, I jst thought of these two).
1: Good old QB pressure, we don't seem to have it, at all. Short of being in the face of Brees a few times, I only saw one episode where #90 should have made the sack but didnt.

2: Secondary scheme. I dont know... Short of Molden providing very close coverage we often seem to be just behind the recievers. Are our safeties not able/allowed (scheme-wise) to support our corners? Do we leave our corners hanging 1-on-1 with recievers allowing them to light us up?

Hmm... Im sure its a mix of the two, but what can be done about it? Getting 'more talent' in our secondary might help a little, but honestly I do not think our players are that much of a problem. Scheme, are we leaving our corners to hang ?

Dunno... any thoughts?
 
gtexan02 said:
Kubiak had tons of praise for Reeves after preseason game 2.
He tackles well
He stays with receivers well
He has good skill sets and moves well

The only thing he didn't do was locate the ball every time. That can be fixed
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That's fine and all but how is that going to hold up against Indy?

It's not just the N.O. game. It's the fact that any highlight we see of this guy, he is getting beat. I have yet to see a highlight where he defended a pass even.
 
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Let's all pray tonight that this thread is put to rest after tomorrow's game. I will definitely be here to face the "I told you so's".

I just have a gut feeling that it will only get worse in here.

Let's hope that Jaque gets a good dose of wheaties tomorrow morning.

Go Texans!
 
Shaft75 said:
Let's all pray tonight that this thread is put to rest after tomorrow's game. I will definitely be here to face the "I told you so's".

I just have a gut feeling that it will only get worse in here.

Let's hope that Jaque gets a good dose of wheaties tomorrow morning.

Go Texans!
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I have a feeling T.O. is going to K.O. Jacque Reeves... I'm sure the cowgirls know just have crappy Reeves is and I think their out to win this game after the first couple of stinkers they've had already.

Having HBO cameras all over your training camp, it's not got pub when you keep losing games......I think Dallas is going to give Houston their "A" game and it'll be closer to a regular season game than people think. I'm actaully excited about tomorrow's game, it'll give us a good gauge on how good this team really is.

Having said that though.....I do see T.O. burning Reeves for a TD and Marion Barber trucking his ass over atleast once. (unlike the fairy princess Reggie Bush....Marion the barbarian is not going to jump over Reeves...he'll just run him over like a dead possum on a road in Tenn.)
 
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Carr Bombed said:
I have a feeling T.O. is going to K.O. Jacque Reeves... I'm sure the cowgirls know just have crappy Reeves is and I think their out to win this game after the first couple of stinkers they've had already.

Having HBO cameras all over your training camp, it's not got pub when you keep losing games......I think Dallas is going to give Houston their "A" game and it'll be closer to a regular season game than people think. I'm actaully excited about tomorrow's game, it'll give us a good gauge on how good this team really is.

Having said that though.....I do see T.O. burning Reeves for a TD and Marion Barber trucking his ass over atleast once. (unlike the fairy princess Reggie Bush....Marion the barbarian is not going to jump over Reeves...he'll just run him over like a dead possum on a road in Tenn.)
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Now, I was among the earliest Non-Cowboys fans who dished this acquisition... Even so, I said, the boy has some tool... Let's give him a chance as he moves to the right side. We won't be doing ourselves any favor calling strike 3 too soon, JMHO!
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Shaft75 said:
Which also means that TO has experience with Reeves.

Tonight will tell us what we need to know. I am just looking for some positive consistency.
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heeh, thats true :)

We'll see, hopefully Reeves will shut down TO or make him look real stupid. I'm not counting on it, but I sure am hoping for it :)
 
I figure Reeves will keep up with him for the most part and still let him catch most of them. I bet his tackling is better, though. Bush jumped over his dive for him--could've easily happened to Bennett or whoever.
 
HJam72 said:
I figure Reeves will keep up with him for the most part and still let him catch most of them. I bet his tackling is better, though. Bush jumped over his dive for him--could've easily happened to Bennett or whoever.
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Could have happened to any corner out there. For what its worth, Reeves did exactly what he is supposed to do, go low to take out the legs, unfortunately this Bush character did something rather unconventional :I
 
I agree with gtexan02. Reeves needs to be given a chance to work out his problems. He's in a new scheme and at a new position (side of the field). Rick Smith was in a bind when he signed him, but I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's got the speed and stays with his man. Let him get better at locating the ball and he could be a very servicable CB for us until Dunta returns.

Glass half full.
 
Well if it wasn't for Homo overthrowing Reeves, I would already have my "T.O. burning Reeves for a TD" prediction. Reeves was barely even in the picture. :gun: Reeves made T.O. look like Usain Bolt
 
thunderkyss said:
I think that's what it comes down to. What do you want from your corners??

From Kubiak's comments, he obviously wants them to be a big part of run defense. I'm against that, but all yuse guys that like Dunta Robinson, obviously like it, because Dunta can't cover worth a crap either.

I'm also good with Faggins.... at least he is in the picture, when the receiver catches the pass, Dunta is usually off somewhere crying to the refs.

With Faggins, and Reeves, the receiver actually has to work.

NO doubt, Dunta has more speed that either of them. He's more physical as well....... I just don't think he's much of a cover corner. Faggins & Reeves aren't lockdowns by any means, but they cover better than Dunta.

JMO.
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Here's your chance to admit Dunta is a way better corner than Faggins and Reeves. I still can't believe you actually believe what you typed in this post.
 
Put Faggins in there. Put Molden in there and see what he can do. Fletcher as well. Reeves has been a huge disappointment. Now I wasn't expecting a whole lot when we signed him, but I was expecting a little better than what he has given us.
 
TexanSam said:
Put Faggins in there. Put Molden in there and see what he can do. Fletcher as well. Reeves has been a huge disappointment. Now I wasn't expecting a whole lot when we signed him, but I was expecting a little better than what he has given us.
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He's Jason David's less talented twin brother.
 
I seriously wonder what Kubiak and Smith saw in Reeves when they first signed him. I mean us normies on TT knew he suck and knew he was going to suck for us too, so I wonder what they thought Reeves could do for us. :dontknowa
 
J-Russ said:
I seriously wonder what Kubiak and Smith saw in Reeves when they first signed him. I mean us normies on TT knew he suck and knew he was going to suck for us too, so I wonder what they thought Reeves could do for us. :dontknowa
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At very least he added some competition in camp, but I just don't see him making the team.

Play Molden!!!
 
I'm really at the point where I'd rather watch them roll Petey and Bennett out until Moldon is ready. Hell I'd rather watch Moldon "get ready" while playing than watch Reeves. He sucks so damn bad I can't believe the Texans signed the guy. I mean it, he is pathetic. The guy tackles like P-Burnt, covers like Petey, and has the ball hawking skills of Matt Stevens. He probably catches like Demps.
 
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