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Jacque Reeves#35 = Disappointing

Shaft75

Shaft75

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I hate to neg everyone out and I also know that it's been one game, but I was not impressed with this guy's play. He was out of position a couple of times last night and it seemed like everytime a big gain was made by the Broncos it was on his side. I am almost wanting Faggins out there with the 1's.

He was soooo blocked on the Cutler td, by a ROOKIE wr. I mean come on. I think there was two times he gave up a completion with decent coverage, but it didn't seem like he wanted to try and bat the ball down. He just seems like Faggins part two to me at this point.

I didn't want to post this after the training camp practices, but now that I have seen him play badly in a game situation I feel that I can express my concerns.
 
i disagree. i thought he had some positives. did you see the angle faggins took on that backside run? yuk.
 
personally I think fletcher will take the job early and molden will take it later so I don't really sweat it.
 
Reeves is going to win the annual "Matt Stevens" award which goes to the player who gets to bear the largest share of fan anger in the secondary every year. "Petey" Faggins has won it every year since Philip Buchanon left the team but his run will come to an end this year as Jacque Reeves takes his spot (until Antwan Moldon is ready) and becomes the 2008 goat of choice.

He is a very ordinary CB who is at best just a couple of notches higher on the pecking order than Petey. They had to do something though and their options were pretty limited. It's not like they wanted to start the year with Petey or a rookie CB playing opposite of Bennett.
 
barrett said:
i disagree. i thought he had some positives. did you see the angle faggins took on that backside run? yuk.
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I was watching the game when I started this thread. I saw his poor play with my own eyes at the game and on film. I encourage you to rewatch the Broncos second drive, when Cutler scored. The dude definitely shouldn't be starting IMO.
 
Shaft, I wouldn't single out just Reeves. No one person impressed me all that much in the secondary. There were plays made here or there - sure, but I saw a lot of open receivers.

Not going to panic, though. Two weeks of practice and first game so plenty of time to sort things out and get it right.
 
Ill give him more time than one preseason game. I dont expect much from him to be honest, but we shall see. If he blows, we got some young talent that can slide right in and not really do any worse, right?
 
Hervoyel said:
Reeves is going to win the annual "Matt Stevens" award which goes to the player who gets to bear the largest share of fan anger in the secondary every year. "Petey" Faggins has won it every year since Philip Buchanon left the team but his run will come to an end this year as Jacque Reeves takes his spot (until Antwan Moldon is ready) and becomes the 2008 goat of choice.

He is a very ordinary CB who is at best just a couple of notches higher on the pecking order than Petey. They had to do something though and their options were pretty limited. It's not like they wanted to start the year with Petey or a rookie CB playing opposite of Bennett.
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Post of the month.

This is the least experienced group of cornerbacks the Texans have ever run out on the field. Though some show promise, this season could be a brutality on the backend. Of course, we are pretty much used to this since the departure of Glenn for being an old guy.

This secondary is going to get zero calls in their favor. Less than zero against a Manning Colts.

The only hope is that Ray Rhodes sprinkles some magic secondary dust that instantly improves all of the secondary's football IQ.
 
Bennett + Molden + Reeves + Faggins + Fletcher (he looked good) + (hopefully) Drob eventually

We should be able to find 2 starters in there somewhere
 
dtran04 said:
I think I'll let someone play more than a couple of series before crucifying them.
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Reread what I wrote man. I said that I wanted to post this in preseason, BUT I wanted to see him in game action before I, as you put it, crucified him.

Look, I watched him with the Cowgirls, I watched him at practice, and now I have seen some game action. After all of those I never came away thinking that this guy should be our starter. Never.
 
He's a tampa II CB. As long as he isn't asked to man up speed, and he's droping off, he'll be ok. it would of been nice in the first round to get Talib & Stewart & Duane Brown....under the circumstances I think they did a superb job of filling four holes with the two original high picks. I've got no regrets and can live with Reeves for half a season.
 
He's a tampa II CB. As long as he isn't asked to man up speed, and he's droping off, he'll be ok. it would of been nice in the first round to get Talib & Stewart & Duane Brown....under the circumstances I think they did a superb job of filling four holes with the two original high picks. I've got no regrets and can live with Reeves for half a season.
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Great post...
 
Reeves is not a starting CB on most teams, but when he was signed, it was almost a desperation move. He is a solid CB that won't do anything special and will give up some plays. He isn't worth close to what he is being paid, but as someone (KT? Cak?) pointed out, he has a contract that is friendly to terminate early. I have no problems with him on the team for now. Don't compare any NFL CB to Faggins.
 
threetoedpete said:
He's a tampa II CB. As long as he isn't asked to man up speed, and he's droping off, he'll be ok. it would of been nice in the first round to get Talib & Stewart & Duane Brown....under the circumstances I think they did a superb job of filling four holes with the two original high picks. I've got no regrets and can live with Reeves for half a season.
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Actually, what the Texans liked about Reeves was his speed and his proficiency playing in a man defense. They didn't really care that he had problems when he was in a zone with the Cowboys because the Texans dont use zone normally.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/5924504.html
 
I thought he had some good and bad spots in his PT Saturday. He's not Dunta but he's not Petey either so that's an upgrade. I'd like to see more of Molden in the next game, I hope he can have a season similar to Bennet's rookie season. If he can do that all this worry over Reeves starting should be moot.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Post of the month.

This is the least experienced group of cornerbacks the Texans have ever run out on the field. Though some show promise, this season could be a brutality on the backend. Of course, we are pretty much used to this since the departure of Glenn for being an old guy.

This secondary is going to get zero calls in their favor. Less than zero against a Manning Colts.

The only hope is that Ray Rhodes sprinkles some magic secondary dust that instantly improves all of the secondary's football IQ.
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And to think that we had one of the best sets of CBs in the NFL 2002-2004 in Aaron Glenn and Marcus Coleman....
 
Shaft75 said:
He was soooo blocked on the Cutler td, by a ROOKIE wr. I mean come on. I think there was two times he gave up a completion with decent coverage, but it didn't seem like he wanted to try and bat the ball down. He just seems like Faggins part two to me at this point.
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Are you talking about the TD run? Look at the film again.. The OLB messed that play up, he bit on the run fake to the right and dropped his outside containment.

Had Reeves droped his man to run down, Cutler probably would have thrown the TD before he hit the line and you would be complaining about piss poor coverage. Once Cutler broke the line and couldnt pass the chances of him not getting in were pretty slim.
 
Yea I didn't much care for him when he was in Dallas, and that's exactly why Dallas traded him... Now he can always improve and I hope he does for the Texans sake...
 
A Texan said:
Actually, what the Texans liked about Reeves was his speed and his proficiency playing in a man defense. They didn't really care that he had problems when he was in a zone with the Cowboys because the Texans dont use zone normally.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/5924504.html
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I don't care what they say, they've been running a tampa two here for four years. The reason they don't blitz more is because the back side corner absolutly sucks , and has sucked for four years. Danta is good in press coverage. He is not great. When you've got LBs who can't get there and corners who can't man up the only option you have is to run the Tampa two. I don't care who says we're not. From what I saw Saturady night, Reeves isn't going to be able to match up with any of the WR we see the first five weeks in press coverage. They can certainly try it of course. Not going to work but they can run it.
 
kravix said:
Are you talking about the TD run? Look at the film again.. The OLB messed that play up, he bit on the run fake to the right and dropped his outside containment.

Had Reeves droped his man to run down, Cutler probably would have thrown the TD before he hit the line and you would be complaining about piss poor coverage. Once Cutler broke the line and couldnt pass the chances of him not getting in were pretty slim.
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WHAT?! Cutler was already past the line of scrimmage, and CC had already provided his help over the top. I DVR'd the game and was there to see it happen, so I don't need to rewatch nada:cowboy1: .

I am clearly not a complainer when it comes to the players on our team, let's just get that straight. BUT, I don't think Reeves was a good acquisition.

I hope he proves me wrong!:texflag:
 
Shaft75 said:
WHAT?! Cutler was already past the line of scrimmage, and CC had already provided his help over the top. I DVR'd the game and was there to see it happen, so I don't need to rewatch nada:cowboy1: .

I am clearly not a complainer when it comes to the players on our team, let's just get that straight. BUT, I don't think Reeves was a good acquisition.

I hope he proves me wrong!:texflag:
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Dude what are you doing????

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The Reeves signing reminds me of the Jordan Black signing last year. Just like at LT in 2007, with Dunta out the Texans are so thin at corner for 2008, they were desperate for starting experience from somebody, anybody that they could sign.
 
nunusguy said:
The Reeves signing reminds me of the Jordan Black signing last year. Just like at LT in 2007, with Dunta out the Texans are so thin at corner for 2008, they were desperate for starting experience from somebody, anybody that they could sign.
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Thank you!
 
nunusguy said:
The Reeves signing reminds me of the Jordan Black signing last year. Just like at LT in 2007, with Dunta out the Texans are so thin at corner for 2008, they were desperate for starting experience from somebody, anybody that they could sign.
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And because of Jordan Black's wealth of experience, wonderful mentorship, and insightful commentary during film study and in the meeting room, we were able to cut our sacks to 22.



:jk:
 
gtexan02 said:
Bennett + Molden + Reeves + Faggins + Fletcher (he looked good) + (hopefully) Drob eventually

We should be able to find 2 starters in there somewhere
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The guy I like more than Reeves and Faggins is Roberson. He might make this team just because of his special teams play. I know I am pulling for him.
 
1 preseason game.

No game planning.

New team.


Give the guy at least until a couple of games into the season before you run him outa town on a rail.
 
nunusguy said:
The Reeves signing reminds me of the Jordan Black signing last year. Just like at LT in 2007, with Dunta out the Texans are so thin at corner for 2008, they were desperate for starting experience from somebody, anybody that they could sign.
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everyone knew Dunta was down & the Texans needed CB help. it was easier to address CB than it was LT which allowed Rick flexability draft day, trading down, getting a starting LT plus adding much needed RB depth. Not to mention they said all along Reeves has the long speed/size to play man coverage. I have/had no problem whatsoever with his aquisition to this team.
 
We all need to just take a deep breath and say to ourselves "No matter how bad this guy is he can't possibly be worse than Phillip Buchanon was in 2005.

We've seen the elephant people. Jacques Reeves is nothing to worry about.
 
Is there any hope that we can get someone in a trade or that may get cut that can help us out in depth at corner? Jacque Reeves looks like the sequel of Faggins last year and it is a little concerning.
 
He is still new in our system and this is the preseason. Lets give him some time. He's been staying step for step with the receivers, he just needs to locate the ball more quickly
 
i understand the new system, but coveraging a guy and locating the ball should be a fundamental part of his game at this point. Don't you think the Cowpokes gave him up pretty easily because he couldn't cover there either. What i am seeing is a lack of fundamentals, Phillip Buchananish.
 
fikster said:
i understand the new system, but coveraging a guy and locating the ball should be a fundamental part of his game at this point. Don't you think the Cowpokes gave him up pretty easily because he couldn't cover there either. What i am seeing is a lack of fundamentals, Phillip Buchananish.
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The Cowboys didn't want him and that was a need on the team...just sayin...
 
He's looked bad against Bush, and thats it.

Bush threw him down, but Reeves forced him out.

Bush gets a swing, and hurdles Reeves, Reeves put his head down to make the hit, should have kept his eyes up, but oh well.
 
I feel bad for this dude. He pretty much got shatted on by Bush the entire first half.

sidenote: Bush looks like the same player he was back from the USC today. He far from a bust.
 
New_Texans said:
he looked good but slaton looked better.
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Bush did pretty good against the starting defensive unit of the Texans. Slaton did very well against the 2nd and 3rd stringers of the Saints. There's a difference.

Not that I like Bush, I was never a Bush fan, still aren't, and wasn't convinced two years ago he was worth the hype. Considering the price paid for each, I'll take Slaton any day of the week.
 
J-Russ said:
I feel bad for this dude. He pretty much got shatted on by Bush the entire first half.

sidenote: Bush looks like the same player he was back from the USC today. He far from a bust.
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He's still a bust........today, he just took advantage of a even crappier player.

I was never high on Jacque Reeves, I honestly would rather see Molden start. Jacque Reeves is going to be Petey Faggins part 2 (but atleast Faggins is a willing tackler......Reeves shied away from Bush like he was the Bus or something). They picked on Reeves the entire night.......rarely did I ever see the ball thrown at Bennett. If we're going to have a player that's picked on the entire game I'd rather it be a rookie that has alot of upside. (which is the exact same argument I made for Bennett last year when I called for him to start over Faggins.)
 
I thought it was Deja Vu from the Addai over Faggins leap when Bush did it to Reeves.

Did anyone notice when Bush turned and reversed field instead of getting positive yards when he saw Bennet on the play Amobi got flagged for defensive holding?

After he threw down Reeves it looked like Bennet started jawing at him saying, "How bout you try that on me?"
 
It kinda reminded me of HS football. Since the Saints practice with us, they knew who was the "human-tackling dummy". The guy everyone push around in practice. So came game time, Bush punk'd Reeves cause he already knew the guy sucked. The same with how Schuab punk'd Jason David the whole game. I think he completed like 5 or 6 passes in a row against him.
 
fikster said:
Is there any hope that we can get someone in a trade or that may get cut that can help us out in depth at corner? Jacque Reeves looks like the sequel of Faggins last year and it is a little concerning.
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Maybe Aaron Glenn won't make the team in New Orleans.

The sad part is I'm only mostly joking.
 
Hervoyel said:
Maybe Aaron Glenn won't make the team in New Orleans.

The sad part is I'm only mostly joking.
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I'd rather have Faggins out there than this guy ..... UGH.



Maybe we can give him back to the Cowpies for a couple jock straps ?


The sad part is that I'm totally NOT joking :cool:
 
gtexan02 said:
He is still new in our system and this is the preseason. Lets give him some time. He's been staying step for step with the receivers, he just needs to locate the ball more quickly
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I agree with you on that...Its going to be a big test for him in dallas because you know those Cowboys fans are going to be heckling the hell out of him. I just want Reeves to learn how to take a pass interference call rather than give up a big play..lol Reeves is still better than P-Burnt. Maybe if we take the wired helmet away from demeco and give it to reeves..the coaches can tell hm when to turn around or LOOK UP!
 
BigWig said:
Reeves= Matt Stevens
Cut him now and get someone in who wont get P burnt!
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Getting "P burnt". Excellent.

I'm adding that to my "Texans Fan Dictionary" that I've been working on. To get P burnt is to be beaten so bad in pass coverage that you force Texans fans to remember Phillip Buchanon as a Texan.
 
fikster said:
i understand the new system, but coveraging a guy and locating the ball should be a fundamental part of his game at this point. Don't you think the Cowpokes gave him up pretty easily because he couldn't cover there either. What i am seeing is a lack of fundamentals, Phillip Buchananish.
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In defense of Reeves...the cowboys played zone coverage and he was getting beat over the top a lot which would be the safeties fault too. He said he likes to play straight up and he is getting a chance to do that now. don't worrying about reeves to much....the pass rush was kind of slow in the new orleans game and this is what these preseason games are for...to work the kinks out. Now I will say that reeves was not the worst DB on the field last night....I can't believe Jason David is still with the saints or in the NFL..lol
 
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